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fridolin |
hi there |
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caroline |
hello #koha! |
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caroline |
is anybody around? |
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caroline |
What is the active time zone right now? |
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caroline |
NZ? |
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hello |
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guten morgen #koha |
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alex_a |
kidclamp, around? |
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* kidclamp |
waves |
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alex_a |
\o |
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alex_a |
kidclamp, bug 18213 does not apply. Probably because 18235 has been reverted |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18213 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Add language facets to Elasticsearch |
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alex_a |
What is the plan? Waiting for 18235 being pushed again? |
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alex_a |
Or i can try a rebase (if your are ok) |
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kidclamp |
I think you mean 20073? 18235 was never pushed |
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kidclamp |
yeah, go ahaed, I can also take a look if you wantr |
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alex_a |
mmh |
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barneyjobs |
hello po |
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barneyjobs |
hello? |
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Hugo |
morning |
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Hugo |
I have this error at zebra zebrasrv(1617) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01}\x01\x04)\x01\x14\"\x01\x1C\x01\x1A\x01\x12\x01\x01\x01\x09\x01\x01\x01\x09 |
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Hugo |
any idea what it could be? |
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ashimema |
whose the best person to ask about the oai pmh code these days? |
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Joubu |
hi |
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Joubu |
ashimema: shoot the question and you will see |
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ashimema |
haha.. wasn't a question.. |
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ashimema |
I was going to ask them to take a look at bug 20271 from the OAI perspective ;) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 major, P1 - high, ---, oha, Failed QA , Merge deleted* tables with their "alive" cousins |
| 12:55 |
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ashimema |
as I've not dabbled there at all I don't feel qualified to comment on what the syspref should be changed to say (or whether it is indeed still relevant with deletedbiblio table going away 😉) |
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tcohen |
ashimema: OAI-PMH repositories need to specify how they deal with deleted records, which yields different harvsting strategies. I think we should keep it configurable to keep the current behaviour. If that's what you're asking |
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ashimema |
I agree with keeping it.. |
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ashimema |
but the pref description needs updating at the very least to not reference deletedbiblio as a table ;) |
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ashimema |
with that very minor comment I think that bug is pretty much good to go.. I'm just running it through the test suit a few times |
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tcohen |
ashimema: great job! |
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ashimema |
mercelr did all the hard work really.. ;) |
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ashimema |
I'm jsut giving it the second eye ;) |
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ashimema |
I'm so going to regret passing qa on it soon enough though aren't I.. bet it's going to lead to all sorts of backporting fun this cycle ;) |
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tcohen |
it needs to happen at some point anyway, better sooner than later |
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ashimema |
indeed |
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* LeeJ |
waves |
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LeeJ |
hi #koha |
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LeeJ |
even though I technically never left :) |
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ashimema |
tcohen.. am I right in thinking atomic updates should always attempt to be idempotent these days? |
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Joubu |
yes |
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ashimema |
i.e. the update in bug 20271 should check for the existence of the deleted* tables before attempting to migrate and delete them |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 major, P1 - high, ---, oha, Failed QA , Merge deleted* tables with their "alive" cousins |
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Joubu |
s/should/must |
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ashimema |
or is that something the RMaints, RManagers expected to do as part of the RM process |
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ashimema |
okies.. |
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ashimema |
thanks Joubu |
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Joubu |
there is a TableExist sub in updatedatabase.pl |
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ashimema |
:) |
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Joubu |
TableExists even |
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ashimema |
brill |
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tuxayo |
Hi :) |
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tuxayo |
Those who use `delete_patrons.pl` , how do you blacklist borrowers categories? (to avoid collateral damages on "strange" accounts) Do you call `delete_patrons.pl` multiple times with each `--category_code` that needs cleaning? |
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Joubu |
Thanks ashimema for your quick signoffs! |
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ashimema |
haha.. no worries.. they were nice easy one's to test ;) |
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ashimema |
and you caught me on one of my community days ;) |
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reiveune |
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lavamind |
another trivial patch https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20920 |
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huginn` |
Bug 20920: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Plack timeout because of missing CGI::Compile Perl dependency |
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lavamind |
Joubu: once I installed libcgip-compile-perl, I restarted plack and it started to work (intranet) |
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Joubu |
lavamind: ok hopefully Mirko will take a look soon |
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lavamind |
running 'aptitude why libcgi-compile-perl' : i A libplack-perl Recommends libcgi-compile-perl |
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lavamind |
so if the goal if to make the package hard-depend on plack, it should be added as a Dependency |
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lavamind |
otherwise, it should be documented |
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Joubu |
lavamind: yes sure. But it's what my jessie install tells too. No idea why it has not be reported before |
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Joubu |
been* |
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lavamind |
Joubu: well recommends are installed by default |
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lavamind |
I think I may have run apt --no-install-recommends at some point |
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lavamind |
ideally there would be a seperate package eg. koha-common-plack with pulls in all that stuff |
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lavamind |
I'm not a fan of the monolithic "one package for everything" |
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Joubu |
lavamind: if you have time and knowledge, feel free to help. We clearly lack people on this side |
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lavamind |
Joubu: well I'm a DD :P |
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lavamind |
but time is more or less lacking these days |
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kidclamp |
cait++ |
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lavamind |
eventually it would be best to upload these packages to the main archive |
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lavamind |
I think with a little work it could be made to be policy compliant |
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lavamind |
the difficult part is ensuring a smooth transition |
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lavamind |
it owuld probably help if there were sprints organized to work on this |
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lavamind |
I might be able to attend during $work hours |
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lavamind |
(Eastern timezone) |
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lavamind |
well, north-america eastern :P |
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lavamind |
the puppet module is about 75% done (for a 1.0 release) |
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Joubu |
lavamind: you could start a discussion on koha-devel, at least to tell people you are willing to help and explain what you have in mind/how things can be enhanced |
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lavamind |
Joubu: good idea, I'll put it in my TODO list |
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Joubu |
lavamind: tcohen (Tomas), droft (Mirko) and mtj (Mason) are the ones who knows more about this topic |
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lavamind |
Joubu: thanks |
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lavamind |
when creating an instance with a default database, is it normal to require "koha-rebuild-zebra -f" ? |
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lavamind |
my instance gets created normally, and the indexer daemon is started, but the index seems empty |
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lavamind |
(searching doesn't work) |
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lavamind |
once I run the full rebuild, search starts working |
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Joubu |
the indexer daemon is watching the zebraqueue table, which is filled on import/create/delete/update of biblio or auth records |
| 19:15 |
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Joubu |
so yes it's expected to launch a full reindex if your record tables already contain something |
| 19:17 |
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lavamind |
Joubu: hrmm |
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lavamind |
in the default.sql.gz I use when creating my instance, zebraqueue is empty |
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lavamind |
my biblio table is full of records however |
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lavamind |
I think the way my default SQL is set up, it may not trigger a full reindex |
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lavamind |
I'm not sure how I can trigger it |
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Joubu |
koha-rebuild-zebra -f will trigger a full reindex |
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lavamind |
Joubu: yeah, I know, I'm wondering whether I can shape my default.sql.gz to avoid having to run it |
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Joubu |
you could fill zebraqueue |
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lavamind |
yeah, however that seems like more of a hassle, especially since I'll have to update the sql from time to time |
| 19:38 |
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lavamind |
each time I'd have to regenerate those records |
| 19:41 |
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Joubu |
the easiest method is to add the rebuild -f command after you inserted your dump |
| 19:52 |
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lavamind |
agreed |
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magnuse |
anyone got a hunch about the max number of records the stage/import tools can handle? |
| 19:55 |
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magnuse |
..per file, i mean |
| 19:57 |
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magnuse |
i have a file with 33869 records |
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lavamind |
where can I find a description of the database tables |
| 20:36 |
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lavamind |
I have a bunch of import_* tables with some data in it, I'm not sure I need it in there |
| 20:44 |
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rangi |
lavamind: http://schema.koha-community.org/ |
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lavamind |
rangi: thank you |
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lavamind |
I also found https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]eanup_database.pl |
| 20:45 |
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lavamind |
I think import_* doesn't have much use in a default sql |
| 20:45 |
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lavamind |
since the cleanup cronjob remove it anyway, no sense in putting it in the database in the first place |
| 20:45 |
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rangi |
hmm? |
| 20:45 |
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rangi |
the cron job only removes data from it |
| 20:46 |
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rangi |
not the tables themselves |
| 20:47 |
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lavamind |
yes of course, only the data hehe |
| 20:47 |
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lavamind |
for example there are many many records in the import_record table |
| 20:47 |
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lavamind |
I don't think these are used for anything inside Koha ? |
| 20:47 |
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rangi |
yes they are |
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rangi |
acquisitions |
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rangi |
and staged marc record management (under tools) |
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rangi |
use them |
| 20:49 |
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rangi |
its where records sit outside of the catalogue, that you can either bring into the catalogue via the staged marc record management, or via acquisitions |
| 20:49 |
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rangi |
also if you search in cataloguing |
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* lavamind |
looks |
| 20:50 |
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rangi |
you will find them too |
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rangi |
(cataloguing, not search the catalogue ;)) |
| 20:50 |
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rangi |
it's called the reservoir there |
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* lavamind |
is just the koha admin, not a koha user |
| 20:51 |
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rangi |
whenever you do a z3950 search, the results are stored in there too |
| 20:51 |
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rangi |
but you are probably ok to wipe them out on a fresh koha |
| 20:52 |
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lavamind |
well it's not supposed to be a fresh koha |
| 20:52 |
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rangi |
one acquisition workflow (that your library probably doesn't use) is that book sellers give your the catalogue data for their inventory |
| 20:52 |
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rangi |
you can stage that in tools |
| 20:52 |
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lavamind |
there's supposed to be a bunch of borrowers, items in the catalogue, etc |
| 20:52 |
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rangi |
then you can order from that acquisitions |
| 20:52 |
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rangi |
yep the import_ stuff sits outside the catalogue |
| 20:52 |
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lavamind |
it's for classes, so that each student gets their own koha instance from a template |
| 20:53 |
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rangi |
librarians can see it, other users can't |
| 20:53 |
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lavamind |
well one of the classes teaches acquisitions |
| 20:53 |
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rangi |
they could always load a marc file via stage marc records to test that |
| 20:53 |
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rangi |
that would be testing the whole workflow |
| 20:53 |
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lavamind |
I'm not sure if they do it, probably though, I guess I should find out |
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rangi |
if its for teaching you could zero those tables out. THey can populate them by using the stage marc records if they need |
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lavamind |
I'm pretty sure that they do, because they've never complained even though the cleanup script deletes them |
| 20:57 |
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lavamind |
the imports were recorded as being made 7 years ago |
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rangi |
yeah you wont need them then |
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lavamind |
ack |
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