IRC log for #koha, 2018-05-30

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06:51 drojf hi #koha
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07:05 * andreashm waves
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07:25 cait good morning #koha
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07:37 andreashm morning cait
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07:43 magnuse moin drojf cait andreashm
07:44 magnuse ...and #koha
07:44 andreashm hi magnuse
07:44 wahanui kamelåså
07:44 magnuse :-)
07:47 andreashm nice weather in Norway too?
07:48 magnuse nah, grey and around 10C up here in the north
07:48 magnuse the south seems to have real summer weather, though
07:54 andreashm same here. think it was 28 yesterday.
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08:17 severine_q good morning Koha !
08:20 cait good morning andreashm, magnuse and severine_q :)
08:20 * andreashm waves
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08:23 severine_q hi cait !
08:24 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
08:24 huginn magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Mostly Cloudy :: 46F/8C | Wind Chill: 43F/6C | Wednesday: Some clouds this morning will give way to generally sunny skies for the afternoon. High 53F. Winds NNE at 10 to 15 mph. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low 47F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph.
08:24 cait @wunder Konstanz
08:24 huginn cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 72F/22C | Wind Chill: 72F/22C | Wednesday: Sunny early then increasing clouds with some scattered thunderstorms this afternoon. Warm. High near 80F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%. Wednesday Night: Partly to mostly cloudy skies with scattered thunderstorms during the evening. Low 59F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rai
08:25 magnuse @wunder stockholm
08:25 huginn magnuse: Stockholm, Sweden :: Clear :: 63F/17C | Wednesday: Sunny. Hot. High 78F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low near 50F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph.
08:31 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:31 huginn drojf: Berlin, Germany :: Clear :: 81F/27C | Wind Chill: 81F/27C | Heat Index: 82F/28C | Wednesday: Becoming partly cloudy with isolated thunderstorms developing this afternoon. Very hot. High 87F. Winds ESE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30%. Wednesday Night: Some clouds. Low around 65F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph.
08:31 drojf i "win"
08:42 magnuse drojf is soooo hot!
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10:00 AndrewIsh Hey all. Sorry, n00b question, can anyone elaborate on what Joubu is asking for here please? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=20797#c7
10:00 huginn Bug 20797: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , If an Ill request has an associated bib record, the detail view should contain a link to the record
10:00 AndrewIsh Comment #7 btw
10:00 AndrewIsh I'm not sure which tags I should be using
10:11 cait spans are commonly used
10:12 cait the problem is that the translations scripts look for html tags for extracting strings for translation
10:12 cait so in some constructs it doesn't work without adding a surrounding span tag
10:12 cait it can also help to get less strings to translate
10:12 cait the N/A in the if else will create something with placeholders most likely
10:13 cait if you put a span around N/A only, we might end with a reusable string (translate once for multiple spots)
10:13 cait AndrewIsh: ^
10:15 AndrewIsh Cait: Perfect, thanks very much!
10:15 cait yw
10:20 magnuse cait++
10:43 severine_q task schedule always failed when I tried to add one , does anyone have an idea where it comes from ?
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11:37 oleonard Hi #koha
11:43 drojf nightly server is down for a bit. cleaning and compressing git & setting up swap so tests won't fail anymore
11:43 oleonard drojf++
11:43 drojf hola oleonard
11:47 cait severine_q: it's kind of broken since forever - never worked for me
11:48 cait severine_q: there is a bug around that it needs a rewrite
11:50 oleonard @wunder 45701
11:51 oleonard ...
11:51 huginn oleonard: Athens, OH :: Mostly Cloudy :: 74F/23C | Wednesday: Mostly cloudy early, then thunderstorms developing this afternoon. High 83F. Winds SSE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Wednesday Night: Thunderstorms likely, especially this evening. Low 68F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%.
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12:08 oleonard cait: About Bug 17674, I'm fine with it if it works!
12:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Needs Signoff , Allow UI to delete serials issues in batch
12:10 severine_q thank you cait for the information !
12:10 drojf rip normarc
12:10 severine_q I saw on Bugzilla somthing about rewrite, but as an other patch  on 'Clean up options' was just pushed, I thought it might work and come from some bad local settings
12:11 eythian drojf: I guess magnuse's no marcs campaign is working, one dialect at a time.
12:11 oleonard Next, UNIMARC and MARC21
12:11 * oleonard wonders if there are other already-dead MARC formats
12:12 magnuse first we take normarc, then we take marc 21
12:12 drojf oleonard: like marc21? ha
12:12 magnuse i think there are, yes
12:12 magnuse danMARC
12:12 oleonard Dead format walking?
12:12 magnuse finMARC
12:12 drojf the walking marc
12:12 magnuse bisMARC
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12:45 eythian oleonard: I think there was an NZ marc dialect at some point until it was realised that was a dumb idea.
12:46 oleonard The United States should start realizing dumb ideas are dumb.
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12:49 * LeeJ waves
12:49 LeeJ hi #koha
12:50 oleonard Hi LeeJ
12:50 LeeJ hiya oleonard
12:58 tcohen morning
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13:02 LeeJ #endmeeting
13:05 tcohen hi LeeJ
13:10 LeeJ hiya tcohen
13:13 tcohen @seen Joubu
13:13 huginn tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 19 hours, 21 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <Joubu> yes it sounds like a dup
13:26 LeeJ ha! that message was to me! lol
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13:47 tcohen cait: would it make sense to allow choosing from different thesaurus on linking (say) topic terms on cataloguing?
13:47 tcohen right now we only allow linking to a single authority type
13:48 tcohen but if the library needs to handle more than one thesaurus, it could be good to be able to search on more than one for linking
13:48 * oleonard waiting outside kidclamp's door
13:49 tcohen LOL
13:54 LeeJ oleonard: hahahahahahaha
14:02 Joubu RTFRN as an answer to the next 100 answers to the ML?
14:02 Joubu RN stands for Release Notes ;)
14:16 LeeJ RTFRN++
14:16 LeeJ Joubu: I second that
14:17 LeeJ general Bug 17153 is marked as 'Academy'..can I still work on it myself? Or leave it for the Academy?
14:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ldjamison, Patch doesn't apply , Logging in during a search navigates to account page instead of back to search results
14:21 oleonard LeeJ: I wouldn't avoid an Academy bug unless you were aware that there was an Academy starting soon
14:21 * oleonard doesn't think there is?
14:23 LeeJ oleonard: thanks...who would know for sure? rangi?
14:27 oleonard rangi, wizzyrea, aleisha, anyone at Catalyst
14:28 LeeJ okay..I wasn't sure who all was with Catalyst :)
14:28 oleonard I thought they ran twice a year but their web site indicates that it's just in the winter
14:29 LeeJ sweet
14:29 LeeJ thanks oleonard!
14:32 oleonard LeeJ: I think it's time for you to add yourself
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14:37 LeeJ oleonard: I feel so official :')
14:38 tcohen drojf: do we still need koha-elasticsearch?
14:38 cait tcohen: i am not sure, it wouldn't be necessary in our context here
14:39 cait tcohen: the topical subject authority has the same structure /authority type, but can be from different sources
14:39 cait i think one is the structure and the other is the source, for me what koha uses as thesaurus just defines the structure
14:39 tcohen yes, but imagine two specialized branches
14:40 tcohen its easier to search/find on separate thesaurus (on the authorities section)
14:40 tcohen to maintain those
14:40 tcohen but having separate frameworks on each branch, only to link to separate thesaurus doesn't sound handy or maintainable
14:41 cait hm youcould make it a multipselect and have a pulldown for search i guess
14:41 tcohen yeah, that's why I plan to suggest
14:42 tcohen the dropdown in the fw configuration would display [None],[All],PERSO_…
14:50 oleonard So cool that Microsoft Edge by default disallows browsing localhost sites. Very handy.
14:51 cait ouch
14:54 * oleonard brb
14:57 tcohen @later tell drojf I filed bug 20836, and I think we should make the catmandu deps mandatory for now and get rid of koha-elasticsearch, what do you think?
14:57 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
15:00 cait tcohen: did you see the other discussion abotu removing catmandu indexing?
15:01 tcohen yes
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15:18 severine_q bye #koha !
15:18 Joubu kidclamp: Is not bug 20830 dup of bug 20014?
15:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20830 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Make sure a fund is selected when ordering from staged file
15:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20014 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , When adding to basket from a staged file item budgets are selected my matching on code, not id
15:28 kidclamp I don't think so Joubu - 20830 is about validation - 2014 is in pulling the data from the marc
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16:14 LeeJ RSS button in OPAC search on current master doesn't load in stock devbox without modifying the URL with "localhost:8080"..can anyone confirm? (do basic OPAC search then click the RSS button)
16:14 oleonard LeeJ: Is your OPACBaseURL preference correctly populated?
16:15 LeeJ oleonard: I hadn't touched it after a reset_all
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16:16 LeeJ ah
16:16 LeeJ one of those days :)
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16:26 Joubu @later tell marcelr ping on 20487?
16:26 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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16:37 LeeJ Koha.Preference('opacuserlogin') == 1 means NOT logged in, correct?
16:41 oleonard It means user login is permitted
16:41 oleonard "Allow/Disallow patrons to log in to their accounts on the OPAC. "
16:42 LeeJ cool
16:42 LeeJ thanks oleonard
16:42 LeeJ think I finally realize why my old patches on that redirect bug of mine never worked...2 years later :P
16:44 oleonard Some of these 'Failed QA' bugs are so old I should probably just reset them to "New"
16:45 LeeJ that seems to make sense
16:45 LeeJ they'd probably have to be rebased anyway
16:48 oleonard This one was written for 3.8, so... maybe?!!
16:49 LeeJ hahaha
16:50 LeeJ oleonard: wouldn't happen to know which part of and/or triggers the redirect back to the results page?
16:50 oleonard I don't know what you mean
16:51 LeeJ OH I think I answered my own question
16:51 LeeJ I love when that happens lol
16:53 LeeJ oleonard: the answer I was looking for was $cgi->param("q") lol
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17:33 kidclamp bug 20837
17:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20837 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , CanItemBeReserved should follow ReservesControlBranch and not CircControl
17:35 LeeJ kidclamp: after that gets pushed, would you mind marking it for docs so we can update the info? :)
17:35 LeeJ if we need to do anything that is
17:35 kidclamp a few steps before it gets pushed :-)
17:36 kidclamp i imagine it will have impacts, but current method doesn't seem to make sense
17:43 Joubu khall: bug 20838, we broke the search by library groups feature :-/
17:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20838 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Search by group of libraries is broken
17:46 LeeJ kidclamp: I'm trying to stay on top of changes this round ;)
17:47 kidclamp khall out today Joubu
17:49 kidclamp good luck LeeJ :-) I will try to mark things and help
17:49 indradg hi #koha
17:50 * indradg waves at LeeJ, kidclamp, oleonard
17:50 oleonard Hi indradg
17:51 indradg @wunder Kolkata
17:51 huginn indradg: Kolkata district, India :: Haze :: 86F/30C | Heat Index: 102F/39C | Wednesday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 80s. Wednesday Night: Some clouds. Low 82F. Winds S at 10 to 15 mph.
17:54 LeeJ kidclamp++
17:54 LeeJ thanks kidclamp! :D
17:54 * LeeJ waves to indradg
17:58 indradg :)
18:08 oleonard Bye all
18:41 LeeJ take care all
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18:44 zenkit hi @sen
18:47 zenkit The problem with installing mariadb is solved. It was a network problem. I switch over the ISP and everything work fine now.
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19:04 zenkit how do i update from 17.11.05 to 17.11.06
19:19 Joubu `apt-get update; apt-get install koha-common` should make it if you are using debian packages
19:19 Joubu make sure the sources.list is correct (i.e. point to the correct stable version you want)
19:20 zenkit thanks @Joubu
19:20 zenkit can i point to any old stable version?
19:21 Joubu zenkit: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]p_package_sources
19:23 zenkit thank you @Joubu
19:27 Joubu @later tell oleonard do you agree with the modal on 20651? You rebased the patch I guess but did not comment/SO
19:27 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:27 zenkit do i always have to upgrade dbschema also?
19:29 Joubu it should be automatically done when the package is upgraded
19:30 Joubu @seen andrew
19:30 huginn Joubu: andrew was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 13 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <andrew> I’m andrew :)
19:34 zenkit is there a difference between koha-dump and mysqldump?
19:39 Joubu `koha-dump --help`
19:39 Joubu it uses mysqldump to backup the DB
19:40 Joubu but it also backup config files
19:41 zenkit i assume like koha-config.xml?
19:41 Joubu etc/koha/sites/$name, etc/apache2/sites-available/$instancefile etc/apache2/sites-enabled/$instancefile var/lib/koha/$name var/log/koha/$name
19:42 zenkit thanks
19:43 zenkit why am i unable to login using root login
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19:45 zenkit Anyway I suppose I'm taking much of your time asking lots of questions... However I do have tons & tons of questions to ask... :)
19:47 Joubu it's the place for that, not sure I will answer all of your questions :)
19:48 Joubu since 18.05.00 you are no longer able to use the DB user to login into Koha
19:48 Joubu but you said you were using 17.11
19:48 zenkit My mind in cleared instantly with your answers @Joubu :)
19:50 zenkit Sorry! no i was refering to the latest stable
19:50 Joubu latest stable is 18.05 since few days
19:51 Joubu you need misc/devel/ to create a superlibrarian user
19:51 zenkit yes i was trying to loging with root login in 18.05
19:52 zenkit yes i created that from the web installation interface
19:56 zenkit difference between koha-dump & koha-run-backups
19:59 zenkit Does koha support NCIP?
20:01 Joubu zenkit: I would suggest the --help flag for the bash script. A manual is provided for each of ones
20:02 zenkit :) Okay I'll do that. Thank you for your time.
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21:58 indradg @seen talljoy
21:58 huginn indradg: talljoy was last seen in #koha 6 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 50 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <talljoy> hi cait!
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22:07 caroline bye #koha, see you tomorrow!
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