IRC log for #koha, 2018-03-21

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01:58 mtj hey wizzyrea, rangi.. im planning to get to the meetup tmrw
01:58 wizzyrea \o/
02:01 mtj 🙋
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05:38 davidnind A message for Mason (not sure whether message worked) - Thanks for the offer of a lift. I'm going up Whanganui this evening, see you Thursday! David Nind
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05:43 mtompset Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea mtj rangi
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06:15 fridolin hi community
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06:47 cait hi fridolin :)
06:51 fridolin cait: bonjour
06:51 wahanui hola, fridolin
06:53 fridolin kwack ?
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07:30 alex_a bonjour
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07:34 * calire waves
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08:01 gaetan_B hello
08:01 wahanui hola, gaetan_B
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08:11 tuxayo hi #koha o/
08:14 calire hi tuxayo
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08:35 eythian hi.
08:35 tuxayo Oh I get it calire your new nick allows you to be next to cait in alphabetical lists! :D
08:36 tuxayo hi eythian o/
08:36 cait cozy
08:39 eythian hi there tuxayo, cait.
08:41 * cait waves
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08:48 nlegrand Hello #koha
08:48 calire tuxayo: haha, I hadn't thought of that ^^
09:12 nlegrand thank you cait, we will have a look :)
09:15 cait nlegrand: np :)
09:15 cait nlegrand: sent you a pm too
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09:59 tuxayo QA question: I have this JS include but only one of the functions is used publicly. How do I document that and avoid name collisions? Adding a leading underscore in the name like in Python?
09:59 tuxayo[…]a30c8a9ea1946_0_4
09:59 tuxayo cc alex_a jajm
10:00 alex_a lapin compris
10:01 tuxayo QA question 2: this is an include with only JS. How do I reflect that in the name?
10:01 tuxayo (I think fridolin gave me that feedback)
10:01 tuxayo alex_a: there are 3 functions in the include. Only one of them will be used outside this file
10:01 ere nlegrand: Hi! Thanks for the log. I finally see the errors in there but need to analyze more to find out the actual reason.
10:02 jajm tuxayo, i recommend you read about the module pattern in js for Q1
10:02 fridolin tuxayo: i suggest a js file, no include
10:03 fridolin if translation needed, add strings in an include, like for Datatable
10:04 jajm fridolin, he's using a TT plugin in this file
10:04 tuxayo fridolin: doesn't work, as it uses a syspref and needs to be preprocessed by TT for that.
10:04 fridolin ah indeed
10:05 tuxayo alex_a: "js for Q1" I don't get it.
10:05 alex_a tuxayo: you mean jajm
10:06 jajm tuxayo, for an answer to your 1st question, google "module pattern javascript"
10:06 tuxayo Indeed alex_a !
10:06 tuxayo jajm: ok thanks!
10:07 fridolin i'd say like koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/e​n/includes/
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10:09 jajm tuxayo, something like that should do what you want :[…]ct-literal-return
10:13 jajm tuxayo, note that your code will fail if DecimalSeparators contains a " (double quote) because of the 1st line of isPrice
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10:24 tuxayo jajm: thanks, I'll use this pattern.
10:24 tuxayo «code will fail if DecimalSeparators contains a "» indeed, is there an easy way to prevent that? I case someone mistakenly add a " in the syspref. Or think that we need to enclose the value with quotes.
10:28 jajm tuxayo, you can use TT plugin JSON::Escape
10:28 jajm [% USE JSON.Escape %]
10:29 jajm var pref = [% Koha.pref('DecimalSep').json %];
10:29 jajm it will automatically escape double quotes
10:30 fridolin new syspref again :(
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10:32 fridolin z3950 : does someone have a connexion to University of Chicago z3950 server ?
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10:39 cait what#s with you people and sysprefs?
10:39 cait sysprefs++
10:47 tuxayo fridolin: the last conclusion was that this syspref was needed. Any new element?
10:47 tuxayo thanks jajm :)
10:48 fridolin no pb ;) syspref is life
10:49 jajm fridolin, i think you need to reconsider your life then :)
10:49 fridolin ;)
10:49 fridolin bier is life then
10:50 tuxayo fridolin:
10:50 tuxayo bier (Noun): A litter to transport the corpse of a dead person.
10:51 tuxayo Not very lify stuff XD
10:51 fridolin whooo need
10:53 fridolin "money makes the world goes round" but only with the good decimal separator ^^
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10:57 cait fridolin: remind me, how often do you update koha?
10:58 cait trying to remember what others told me and my brain is like swiss cheese
11:02 fridolin cait: each year major upgrade like 16.11 > 17.11
11:02 fridolin each 3 month minor 16.11.12 to 16.11.15
11:04 cait thx!
11:04 cait are you usually jumping on stable then?
11:04 cait or oldstable?
11:04 wahanui it has been said that oldstable is now 3.12.
11:04 cait wahanui: forget oldstable
11:04 wahanui cait: I forgot oldstable
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11:09 calmagnus Error while loading /etc/koha/plack.psgi: Can't load application from file "/usr/share/koha/api/v1/": Can't locate object method "cache_dir" via package "Swagger2::SchemaValidator" at /usr/share/perl5/ line 41.
11:09 fridolin cait: we are jumping to 17.11 this summer
11:09 calmagnus anyone else seen that when trying to run under plack?
11:10 fridolin calmagnus: which is your Koha version
11:11 calmagnus fridolin: 17.0506
11:11 magnuse package install
11:11 wahanui package install is easy, if you do it on a supported os
11:11 fridolin ah
11:11 magnuse so true
11:12 cait thx frido!
11:12 cait fridolin++
11:12 fridolin you may compare /etc/koha/plack.psgi with file is sources
11:12 fridolin cait: your welcome ;)
11:13 fridolin we are preparing the db upgrade timing due to biblio_metadata converison
11:13 cait ooh  right
11:13 cait how bad is it?
11:16 fridolin depends on the server
11:16 fridolin but may last an hour or two
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11:25 GiuseppeP Hello, If I want add Let'sEncrypt to an instances can I do koha-create --letsencryot also if the instance already exist?
11:26 magnuse GiuseppeP: you can only use --letsencrypt with koha-create
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11:26 magnuse there is currently no easy way to add letsencrypt to an existing site
11:27 GiuseppeP so the better way still adding it manually?
11:27 magnuse bug 16662 aims to add that functionality
11:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Letsencrypt II: Return of the cryptosaurus. (make it work for existing instances)
11:28 magnuse yes, adding it manually is the best option for now
11:28 GiuseppeP ok thanks
11:30 nlegrand ere sure!
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11:37 nlegrand ere wanted to say "thanks" I'm a bit confusel lately :)
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12:00 ere nlegrand: no problem :)
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12:16 oleonard Hi #koha
12:17 calire bonjour oleonard
12:18 oleonard Hello calire, a person I have never met before. Welcome to #koha
12:18 * calire removes dark glasses
12:18 GiuseppeP hmm Koha is ignoring my htaccess on intranet/htdocs... it used to works on Koha 3.x, but Koha 17.11 seem ignoring it. any idea?
12:19 GiuseppeP I just tried to empty it and put there a Redirect rule to test it, but no luck
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12:19 cait hey kidclamp!
12:19 wahanui well, kidclamp is contemplating shaving the stache
12:19 kidclamp morning cait!
12:20 cait back home safe and sound?
12:20 kidclamp indeed
12:20 cait :)
12:21 cait i've submitted my patches last night
12:21 cait incase you get bored today ;)
12:21 oleonard GiuseppeP: Did you change the way you installed Koha for 17.11, or was it an upgrade in place?
12:22 * kidclamp doesn't thing that will be a thing today, but I will try to taker alook
12:23 nlegrand hey oleonard! I bought and ate some morchella on saturday, I thought about you :)
12:23 nlegrand hiya kidclamp
12:23 kidclamp hi nlegrand
12:24 kidclamp oleonard: I totally messed things up for you - no one can go to Germany
12:24 kidclamp ;-)
12:24 GiuseppeP oleonard: frehs install
12:24 GiuseppeP by repo
12:24 oleonard Thanks nlegrand :)
12:26 * oleonard brb
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13:09 marcelr hi #koha
13:12 eythian hi marcelr
13:13 marcelr o/
13:18 kidclamp hi marcelr
13:18 marcelr hi kidclamp
13:18 marcelr back?
13:18 wahanui and forth.
13:19 kidclamp indded
13:19 kidclamp indeed even
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13:23 GiuseppeP I did a strace to understand why htaccess is not working and that look strange:
13:23 GiuseppeP looks like it is searching the htaccess on /usr instead of the document root
13:24 GiuseppeP could be a bug qith apache 2.4.25?
13:24 GiuseppeP *with
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13:41 tcohen @seen jajm
13:41 huginn tcohen: jajm was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 52 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <jajm> fridolin, i think you need to reconsider your life then :)
13:41 tcohen @seen matts
13:41 huginn tcohen: matts was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <matts> tuxayo, exactly. Or giving wahanui only blanks.
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13:49 tcohen @later tell matts I need to talk with you about the orders endpoint for Coral
13:49 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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14:01 GiuseppeP fyi: I've solved the problem of htaccess forcing the override on document root
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14:16 oleonard Glad to hear it GiuseppeP.
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15:08 tuxayo Functional question: for bug 12310 we have a file named and functions with price in their name.
15:08 tuxayo Are there other non-price numeric fields in Koha where we could use that?
15:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12310 critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, ASSIGNED , Accept different monetary formats as input
15:08 tuxayo If yes: technical/QA question: how do I rename this stuff? "decimal-numbers" instead "price" ?
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15:26 GiuseppeP hmm after moving koha to HTTPS it is generating a lot of load, the process using more CPU (a lot more than in past) are and is that normal?
15:26 GiuseppeP something like 45-65% CPU
15:29 tuxayo GiuseppeP: The overhead of the actual TLS (responsible for the S in HTTPS) should not be noticable and is nowhere near the numbers you have.
15:29 tuxayo[…]ormance-overhead/
15:29 tuxayo Could the configuration change have impacted something else?
15:33 GiuseppeP I had to add some rewriterule for https and let's encrypt I'm curious if that could be the cause
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16:14 tuxayo GiuseppeP: if one doesn't update the rewrite rules for bug 12904, it's possible to have a high CPU usage (until the resources fail to load with an error). That might eventually help ^^"
16:14 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade
16:15 tuxayo Coding style question: which case of JS variable and functions?
16:15 tuxayo Can't find in https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Coding_Guidelines (maybe we follow the default of JSHint then?)
16:15 tuxayo s/of/for
16:19 oleonard tuxayo: We don't have an established guideline.
16:19 kidclamp you mean camelCase vs underscore_case>
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16:21 paul_p hi tcohen.
16:21 paul_p can you join matts & me on #koha-temp ?
16:22 tcohen we can zoom or hangouts if you prefer
16:23 paul_p tcohen HG ok
16:23 paul_p tcohen I open a hg & invite you
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16:24 tcohen perfect
16:24 paul_p tcohen[…]
16:32 tuxayo kidclamp: oh you're back :D
16:32 tuxayo Yes I meant these cases.
16:32 tuxayo oleonard  is there a clearly dominant practice?
16:33 * tuxayo crosses fingers for underscore_case but would be fine if there is at least any dominant convention
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16:40 oleonard tuxayo: A quick glance suggests it's a pretty even split. I'm in favor of underscore_case too.
16:41 paul_p tcohen have you seen you're #7 commiter ?[…]ster/authors.html
16:46 tuxayo "it's a pretty even split" why T_T
16:46 tuxayo okay then I'll contribute pushing the rock on underscore_case slope ^^
16:46 tuxayo Oh but the standard library methods use camelCase :(
16:47 tcohen paul_p: nope
16:47 paul_p tcohen now you know ;)
16:48 tcohen coding guidelines?
16:48 wahanui coding guidelines are[…]Coding_Guidelines
16:49 paul_p I lost the 1st place 2 years ago IIRC, the 2nd place a few months ago, and will loose the 3rd in favor of Owen soon. You've a lot of work to take the 4th place (Galen being away, and kyle not submitting a lot, you should beat them soon ;) )
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16:50 paul_p [and in fact, joubu should be #1, because chris & I have a LOT of commit that are CVS commits. 1 file change= 1 commit. The # of commit is artificially enormous.
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17:09 * tuxayo sent a long message: tuxayo_2018-03-21_17:09:20.txt <[…]jEbXbdTnauGnwUYWS>
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17:46 tcohen as long as we make Koha better, lets have thousands of commits!
17:51 * oleonard submits all future changes in single-line patches
17:53 kidclamp that's a lot of cherries to pick
18:02 tuxayo Maybe that would lead to a bit less conflicts? :P But more error prone other things (forgetting half of a patch)
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18:38 tuxayo To answer my above question: it's `function foo(bar) {`
18:39 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]acing_conventions
18:40 oleonard function foo( bar ){   :P
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18:47 tuxayo Oh deer 🦌
18:48 * tuxayo goes grepping some more code
18:50 Dyrcona kidclamp: <- For when you have a lot of cherries to pick.
18:51 kidclamp thanks Dyrcona
18:58 tuxayo I wonder if someone has made a program that greps a project and outputs the existing coding style.
19:03 Dyrcona Emacs can do that for C/C++ with the various cguess-* commands. Don't think anyone has added that for Perl.
19:03 Dyrcona Does it automatically for Python.
19:16 tcohen for Perl we use PBP, and all commits are checked with perlcritic for inclusion
19:17 tcohen also, whatever the current RM wants he
19:27 tuxayo Functional question: for bug 12310 we have a file named and functions with price in their name.
19:27 tuxayo Are there other non-price numeric fields in Koha where we could use that? (parsing numbers with various formatting)
19:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12310 critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, ASSIGNED , Accept different monetary formats as input
19:27 tuxayo If yes: technical question: how do I rename this stuff? "decimal-numbers" instead "price" ?
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19:37 em_ hey I installed Koha 17.11.03 which is the latest version and I am nt able to upload pdf files
19:37 em_ is there a bug?
19:37 em_ it works fine in 17.11.02 though
19:37 em_ followed the same steps in installing.
19:37 em_ can somebody help
19:37 em_ ?
19:40 tuxayo em_: any error in the logs?
19:43 em_ no error
19:43 em_ clear installation
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19:44 tcohen make sure you delete de browser cache
19:44 tcohen file upload heavily depends on a .js library
19:45 em_ ok
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21:20 tcohen #koha what would the relator code for 'prologuist' be?
21:21 emucla installing koha i get this error
21:21 tcohen win? aui?
21:21 tcohen talljoy?
21:21 wahanui talljoy is one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box.
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21:25 tcohen emucla: are you using MySQL 5.7?
21:25 emucla no mariadb
21:30 emucla I tried to populate database I marked all options in the webinstaller
21:32 emucla database version 5.5.5-10.1.26-MariaDB-0+deb9u1
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21:50 tcohen emucla: I'm sorry I'm busy, check the install wiki there are instructions to set the sql-mode config so it doesn't cause trouble
21:51 emucla ok thanks :)
21:53 magnuse @seen rangi
21:53 huginn magnuse: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 day, 1 hour, 28 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <rangi> they both work, you just have to be mindful that if they change the rule for the opac, then your intranet will break and vice versa if you put them both in the same file
21:57 tcohen magnuse: why are you awake? :-D (glad you are btw, hi!)
21:57 magnuse i'm just about falling asleep :-)
21:57 magnuse and hi!
21:58 magnuse and bye!
21:58 tcohen mindfulness++
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