IRC log for #koha, 2018-02-20

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06:22 fridolin hi
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07:18 reiveune hello
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07:48 alex_a bonjour
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08:02 eythian hi
08:02 wahanui kia ora, eythian
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08:26 gaetan_B hello
08:26 wahanui que tal, gaetan_B
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08:33 * andreashm waves
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08:40 tuxayo hi #koha o/
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09:12 oha o/
09:14 oha I'm still working on it, but here a preview of changes just for deleted biblio/items:
09:15 oha I'm positive i have forgotten something, but at least it seems to be working on the most relevant koha's pages
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09:59 drojf hi #koha
10:01 eythian * a wild drojf appears!
10:03 * drojf roars
10:03 eythian where have you been hiding?
10:04 drojf here and there ;)
10:10 andreashm hi drojf
10:17 drojf hi andreashm
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10:50 magnuse \o/
11:25 * kidclamp waves
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12:32 oleonard Hi all
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13:20 marcelr hi #koha
13:31 * oleonard thought at first that Bug 20235 was about sending literal telegrams
13:31 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20235 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Telegram notifications
13:32 marcelr that would be nice :)
13:37 tuxayo hi, marcelr
13:37 tcohen we really need to create patron_phone_numbers with a mobile(bool) column first
13:41 marcelr hi tuxayo and tcohen
13:41 tcohen hi marcelr
13:41 tuxayo Does anyone know what is the less ambiguous term for the self-service machines where patrons can check-in and check-out item? (self-service machines)
13:41 tuxayo s/)/?)
13:43 tuxayo Eventually, patrons can also see the state of their account. These machines use the SIP protocol.
13:43 tcohen self-check?
13:43 tcohen oleonard?
13:43 wahanui oleonard is not really here.  He said so.  He did!
13:44 tuxayo tcohen:  so "self-check machine" ?
13:44 tcohen I'm not a native speaker
13:44 tcohen better ask jcamins ?
13:44 eythian In English, I'd expect "self-checkout machine" or "self-check machine"
13:45 eythian the ones in supermarkets are called the first one mostly.
13:45 oleonard I agree with eythian.
13:45 tcohen :-D
13:49 eythian just don't call them soft-serve machines, or there'll be a lot of disappointed people.
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13:53 tuxayo Thanks all :)
13:53 tuxayo eythian are these machines that serve soft drinks?
13:55 oleonard tuxayo:
13:55 tuxayo oleonard: that's also great :D
13:57 oleonard Now I need to know if the rest of the world has root beer floats.[…]t#Root_beer_float
13:59 oleonard Joubu++
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14:00 oleonard I didn't realize the qa-tools had already been updated for 12904
14:01 eythian oleonard: ew
14:01 eythian you can keep it
14:09 tuxayo Does anyone know what is the less ambiguous term for the self-check machines used only for check-in which also sort the items in different "boxes".
14:09 tuxayo sorting machines ?
14:12 eythian that one I don't know
14:13 oleonard I don't think there's a widely used term for that yet since they're still fairly uncommon.
14:13 oleonard[…]sources/five/one/
14:13 oleonard http://www.cincinnatilibrary.o[…]ng-equipment.html
14:14 eythian tuxayo: this means you get to popularlise a term of your choosing.
14:14 eythian use this power wisely
14:14 eythian And don't go for Sorty McOrderedface or something
14:15 oleonard brb watching 8 hours of book sorting machine videos on YouTube.
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14:22 Joubu oleonard: lol, first I heard about it (root beer floats) yesterday!
14:23 oleonard Don't listen to eythian. They are delicious.
14:23 Joubu hum... it's not what told me my girlfriend ;)
14:24 Joubu well, she said "weird but good"
14:24 eythian she's half right
14:24 eythian the first half
14:25 oleonard Is there any American food "innovation" which doesn't involve an abundance of sugar and/or fat?
14:26 Joubu oleonard: she was in... Portland for a conference and told me the food was awesome!
14:27 oleonard I hope that encourages you to come to KohaCon.
14:28 tuxayo eythian: Too bad, popularizing "something" would have been funny.
14:28 tuxayo Thanks all, I'll go with "sorting machines" for now :)
14:28 Joubu we should all go to KohaCon, the beers are great too
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14:33 dersmon hi everyone! i got a question concerning the insertion order: http://schema.koha-community.o[…]nsertionOrder.txt
14:34 oleonard It took us a while to figure it out, but we do make good beer here finally.
14:35 dersmon `serial` seems quite high in the list, is that because the list is automatically generated?
14:35 Joubu dersmon: why do you need this order?
14:36 Joubu dersmon: yes it is automatically generated
14:36 Joubu "Generated by
14:36 Joubu SchemaSpy"
14:36 dersmon i don't need it, it is just something i used to plan my migration to koha
14:36 dersmon ok
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14:37 eythian presumably dependencies within tables have some impact on that
14:37 dersmon ok, so the key contraints make it look like it has not that many dependencies (to SchemaSpy), but in reality i would have to push it further down
14:37 eythian s/within/between/
14:38 eythian oh, you can also turn off foreign key checking while importing
14:38 eythian makes life simpler if you know things are correct
14:38 dersmon i don't :P
14:38 dersmon but yes, that could still become an option
14:38 eythian then don't turn it off :)
14:39 dersmon ;)
14:40 dersmon do you have any other recommendations about what to insert first?
14:42 eythian it's been much too long since I've done that to give solid advice, but usually what I'd do is start with a configured instance, then it was just importing the data on top. With a few small exceptions, I don't recall order mattering too much.
14:42 eythian (and where it does it's obvious.)
14:43 dersmon i want to import vendors too
14:43 dersmon because we have quite a lot
14:43 dersmon and all open acquisitions
14:44 eythian[…]ee/master/clients most of my old scripts are in here
14:45 dersmon nice, thanks!
14:46 eythian can't see anything that does vendors, but dig around and you might find something.
14:46 eythian (there's a lot of undocumented pseudojunk in there.)
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14:55 dersmon is our repo
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15:30 cait hello #koha
15:36 cait oleonard: were my commetns ont he bugs ok?
15:36 oleonard Yes, thanks cait
15:36 cait seeing lots of updates :)
15:36 oleonard I've rebased and/or followed up on most I think
15:37 cait cool
15:37 cait will try to get back to them, maybe tomorrow
15:48 cait alex_a: around?
15:48 alex_a cait: yep
15:49 cait could you tak another look at bug 19582 please?
15:49 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19582 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Elasticsearch: must use search_auth_compat
15:49 reiveune bye
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16:23 tuxayo see you tomorrow #Koha \o
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16:50 alex_a cait: why? Nothing change since my last comment
16:52 alex_a cait: ah yes, i have to take a look at the unit tests
16:52 alex_a thx
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18:05 * LeeJ waves
18:05 LeeJ hi #koha
18:09 LeeJ anyone feel like helping with a quick code review? :)
18:11 Joubu first irc rule: Don't ask to ask, just ask
18:11 LeeJ haha fair enough
18:11 Joubu at least first for me
18:12 LeeJ[…]
18:12 LeeJ my install() method doesn't work right as far as altering the existing table
18:13 LeeJ however, from mysql shell the same alter command works
18:13 Joubu package vars must be declared "our"
18:14 LeeJ hm? which var?
18:14 Joubu display the query before DBI->do, I am pretty sure the booking_table is empty
18:15 Joubu my $var; sub xxx { say $var } # This is wrong, you should read stuffs returned by your favority search engine with "perl variable scope"
18:15 Joubu or "perl package variables"
18:16 Joubu our $var; sub xxx { say $var } # This is ok
18:16 Joubu ugly but at least will work
18:16 LeeJ ooooh
18:28 kidclamp oleonard++
18:30 LeeJ harumph
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18:34 LeeJ Joubu: I re-read your comment..even if the table itself is empty (i.e. no rows) it should still be able to alter the table, yes?
18:56 kidclamp oleonard unlocks pickup-hug reward
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19:03 Joubu LeeJ: yes of course
19:03 * LeeJ grumbles
19:04 LeeJ I was considering maybe an index was blocking the ALTER command..but if that was the case, the shell command should have failed as well
19:04 Nemo_bis Nice that hosts such articles[…]out-marc-handlers
19:05 Nemo_bis Oh but I see Ruth is a regular
19:07 oleonard Not so much anymore, but she appears here as druthb
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19:45 tcohen @wunder cordoba argentina
19:45 huginn` tcohen: Cordoba, Argentina :: Partly Cloudy :: 76F/24C | Tuesday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the upper 50s. Tuesday Night: Some clouds this evening will give way to mainly clear skies overnight. Low 57F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph.
19:45 LeeJ :O
19:46 LeeJ it's fixed?!
19:46 tcohen I used to add a comma, it breaks
19:46 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
19:46 huginn` tcohen: Cordoba, Argentina :: Partly Cloudy :: 76F/24C | Tuesday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the upper 50s. Tuesday Night: Some clouds this evening will give way to mainly clear skies overnight. Low 57F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph.
19:46 LeeJ @wunder Scranton Pennsylvania
19:46 huginn` LeeJ: Scranton, PA :: Clear :: 62F/17C | Tuesday: Sunshine and clouds mixed. Record high temperatures expected. High near 65F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy this evening with more clouds for overnight. Areas of patchy fog. Low 53F. Winds light and variable.
19:46 tcohen a, no
19:46 * LeeJ looks outside
19:46 LeeJ I think it lies
19:47 LeeJ it's foggy and cold >.<
19:55 cait @wunder ĸonstanz
19:55 huginn` cait: Error: I could not find a valid location for: ĸonstanz
19:55 cait @wunder Konstanz, Germany
19:55 huginn` cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Overcast :: 32F/0C | Wind Chill: 26F/-3C | Tuesday: Considerable cloudiness. Lows overnight in the upper 20s. Tuesday Night: Mostly cloudy skies. Low 28F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.
19:55 cait what did you say about cold? :)
19:56 LeeJ heh
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22:18 notarock Im trying to add a new system preference. Everything work, except i can't get it to translate. Did I miss something? I didn't edit any po files yet
22:38 LeeJ hi notarock..I don't have any experience but usually cait or Joubu would have more knowledge about translations
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23:18 wizzyrea have you koha-translate --update the-CODE
23:18 wizzyrea (the-CODE is whatever your language is)
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