IRC log for #koha, 2017-12-22

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00:33 sen (also it seems like most people here are developers rather than end-users? am just curious really :) )
00:36 cait1 sen: actually i am in Germany :)
00:36 cait1 but it's really really late here
00:36 sen ahh, cool :) people are pretty spread out then.
00:36 cait1 yep
00:36 sen Toronto, here.
00:36 cait1 weekends are quiet, but otherwise there is almost always someone online
00:37 cait1 not only devs, librarians too, people involved with community
00:38 sen cool, okay. thanks, that's all good to know :)
00:38 * sen came to get help with a setup issue but figured might as well keep hanging around.
00:38 cait1 good decision :)
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06:44 marcelr hi #koha
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06:46 josef_moravec morning #koha
07:35 marcelr hi josef_moravec
07:35 josef_moravec hi marcelr
07:35 marcelr josef_moravec: any chance to look at bug 18458 ?
07:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18458 normal, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Signed Off , Merging authority record incorrectly orders subfields
07:36 josef_moravec marcelr: is on my list ;)
07:36 marcelr great
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07:57 fridolin hi
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07:57 josef_moravec hi fridolin
07:57 alex_a bonjour
07:57 josef_moravec hi alex_a
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08:14 clrh hello
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08:35 gaetan_B hello
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08:50 cait good morning #koha
08:50 josef_moravec hi cait
08:52 cait hi josef_moravec :)
09:08 josef_moravec marcelr: here you are - bug 18458
09:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18458 normal, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Passed QA , Merging authority record incorrectly orders subfields
09:08 marcelr thx josef_moravec
09:09 marcelr josef_moravec++
09:09 marcelr hi cait
09:09 cait hi marcelr - will pass your patch right after breakfast :)
09:09 marcelr cait++
09:09 cait thx for hte new version
09:13 cait 116 in queue now, yesterday morning it was 154, much better
09:37 cait marcelr++ josef_moravec++
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10:14 janPasi well now, it seems we have a truly horrible problem with the new(ish) koha
10:14 janPasi this is 17.06
10:15 janPasi it seems to randomly switch users, so when you click on something you suddenly notice that you are logged in as someone else
10:16 janPasi usually after that you get logged out with notification that your ip address has changed
10:16 janPasi but occasionally you see the screen that the other person was trying to access
10:16 janPasi i.e. some other staff member
10:16 cait ?
10:16 cait that does sound horrible, but i have never heard of behaviour like that
10:17 cait is that a standard koha, no customizations?
10:17 janPasi nope, unfortunately that is certainly not the case, we're running a hevily modified koha
10:17 janPasi *heavily
10:18 janPasi we have raised the amount of plack workers because we're a fairly big library
10:18 cait yeah, but they shoudl not confuse you ( i hope)
10:18 cait any work done on the uath modules?
10:19 janPasi uath?
10:21 cait sorry auth :)
10:21 janPasi oh :D
10:21 cait brb
10:21 janPasi yep, i think are some changes in them
10:21 janPasi at least the permission handling is different from stock koha
10:33 marcelr thx cait
10:35 janPasi C4::Auth also has some changes
10:36 cait how should we name a wiki page with stuff about qa?
10:36 cait landing page for people who want to learn about what we do in qa and maybe how to get started?
10:37 cait janPasi: hard to tell then, can only say haven't heard of that in stock koha
10:39 josef_moravec cait: Does not matter too much as far as it is linked from developer handbook ;)
10:39 cait that's the plan
10:39 cait should we just call it Quality Assurance?
10:40 josef_moravec cait: for consistency could be "QA on patches"
10:40 cait what would it be consistent to? :)
10:40 janPasi cait: yep, it may well be a problem with some of our customizations
10:40 josef_moravec cait: could be, and yes, better to not us only QA ;)
10:41 janPasi cait: nice christmas present :D
10:41 josef_moravec cait: Sign off on patches - https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]gn_off_on_patches
10:41 cait oh
10:42 cait maybe QA patches
10:42 cait or How to QA?
10:43 cait i think i like the latter
10:43 josef_moravec cait: I like it too ;)
10:43 cait :)
10:43 josef_moravec this page will be pretty useful I bet (especially for me ;)
10:48 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_QA
10:48 cait happy to get input and corrections
10:52 cait hi kidclamp :)
10:52 kidclamp hi cait
11:02 cait people start calling it version 17
11:02 cait *sighs* wonder if ubuntu has the same problem
11:19 cait thx marcelr :)
11:19 cait @later tell rangi bug 19796 is ready for you
11:19 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
11:35 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_QA still working on this, please add to it
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12:05 andreashm Does anyone know how hold notices (waiting for pickup) are handled? we changed the template recently and on the notices sent out today about half seem to use the old template and half the new one. any ideas why?
12:08 andreashm Is the tamplate saved when the hold is placed rather than when it is available for pickup? Or is it a caching issue? Or something else?
12:09 cait caching
12:09 cait most likely
12:09 cait it' sgenerated the moment you check it in
12:09 cait and then stored in message_queue, usually sent every 15 mins
12:09 andreashm an issue with plack then? or perhaps memcached?
12:10 cait i'd restart both :)
12:10 cait which version are you using currnetly?
12:12 andreashm 16.05
12:12 cait we are on 16.11 onw, it seems to be a bit better there
12:12 cait but we came from 3.22 with lots of restarts required
12:13 andreashm is there any good way to restart memcached? plack has a service, so that's easy
12:15 cait i think it#s just sudo service memcached restart
12:19 kidclamp @later tell gmcharlt I need access to download.koha-community.org
12:19 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
12:22 andreashm thanks
12:33 josef_moravec cait++
12:33 josef_moravec cait: good job on the wiki page, thanks!
12:34 cait thx! feel like we are still missing things, but we can add as we think of them
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12:52 Joubu cait: you could add that the atomic update file should be correctly written (idempotent)
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13:05 cait idempotent?
13:05 cait what do we expect of the atomicupdate right now?
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13:06 cait Joubu: ^
13:06 cait hi oleonard :)
13:07 oleonard Hi
13:07 Joubu we need it to be executed several times without raising an error
13:07 andreashm oh crap. I restarted plack and memcached and now it seems like old the old hold notice templates are used. =(
13:07 Joubu or inserting the same row several times
13:07 oleonard Everyone tired from QA sprinting?
13:08 Joubu like the IGNORE clause, or use of the column_exists, foreign_key_exists or index_exists subroutines
13:09 Joubu andreashm: how do you test?
13:09 andreashm I look in the message_queue
13:10 andreashm in the database
13:10 wahanui somebody said in the database was incorrect the date equal
13:10 cait Joubu: will document
13:11 Joubu andreashm: are you editing the global notice template or the one specific to your library?
13:11 andreashm the hold template
13:11 cait i think should go on the database update page too
13:11 andreashm (for waiting holds)
13:11 Joubu the one from your library or the "global" one?
13:12 Joubu what is the branchcode in DB?
13:12 andreashm the global one
13:12 andreashm we don't have specific ones for the branches
13:13 cait there is a bug somewhere decribing what you see
13:13 cait i amlooking for it
13:15 andreashm I din't restart apache etc, only memached and plack. should I restart everything?
13:15 andreashm cait: ok
13:15 andreashm joubu: we're using 16.05 btw
13:16 cait bug 17998
13:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17998 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Notice ISSUEQSLIP changes do not take effect consistently
13:16 cait it's nothold, but also: change notice template not taking immediate effect
13:18 tcohen hi
13:18 wahanui hello, tcohen
13:19 andreashm cait: yes, that seems like the same issue
13:19 Joubu andreashm: sorry I have no idea then. It may be a bug we fixed in recent versions
13:19 cait i tihnk it got better
13:20 cait since we moved to 16.11
13:24 andreashm cait: yeah, we are working on upgrading, but are having some problems there with the rest api.
13:24 andreashm we were looking at 17.05, but might have to go to 17.11 instead
13:25 andreashm but this problem is a major concern over christmas, where our changes in text won't be sent out.
13:25 Joubu restart memcached then plack
13:25 andreashm joubu: ok, thanks anyway!
13:26 Joubu the old version should go away
13:26 andreashm joubu: ah, I did it the othr way
13:26 Joubu there is no black magic
13:26 Joubu (well, I am not 100 sure about the black magic)
13:26 andreashm hehe
13:27 Joubu no, it's memcached then plack, always
13:27 andreashm ok!
13:38 gaetan_B it turns out that some code in the search makes it impossible to search on the value "0"
13:39 gaetan_B we have an edge case where it's actually very problematic here
13:39 gaetan_B a library that manages plays for theatres and has dedicated fields for the number of actors in a play, by gender
13:39 gaetan_B so if you want to search with a play with no male actors, you can't
13:40 gaetan_B now we're going to patch this :)
13:40 gaetan_B but is there a good reason for actively ignoring this value in search?
13:41 gaetan_B obviously it happens because 0 is false in code, so lots of test turn out to make it look as if nothing has been defined in this search
13:48 cait Joubu: updated the database update page and qa how to
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13:58 cait hm qa 10 more bugs to get below 100...
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15:19 kidclamp gmcharlt around?
15:19 gmcharlt am now
15:48 cait oleonard: i moved some of your patches into blocked - we need someone to sign off the missing piece in the chain
15:48 cait / dependency tree
15:48 oleonard I'll ask Santa.
15:52 cait i will keep looking for him too :)
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16:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19753: (QA follow-up) Style invoices menu item when on individual invoice page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f642c592912c6fcbb> / Bug 19753: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86ec671b79de7a442> / Bug 19744: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Offline cir
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16:59 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #323: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/323/
16:59 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19760: Die if koha-conf is not accessible
16:59 jenkins * aleishaamohia: Bug 19200: Preventing warns when exporting a basket
16:59 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 19200: (QA follow-up) Simplify call to GetBasketAsCSV
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19760 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Die instead of warn if koha-conf is not accessible
16:59 jenkins * kyle: Bug 19813: Make MarcItemFieldsToOrder handle non-existing tags
16:59 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 18458: Add a subtest in Merge.t
16:59 jenkins * januszop: Bug 18458: Fix subfields ordering when Merging authority records
16:59 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 19621: Use Koha.Preference on template side to display/hide "Routing
16:59 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19840: Fix - display patron note on checkin
16:59 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19840: And avoid XSS...
16:59 jenkins * david.bourgault: Bug 19702: Correct cookie path in Basket.js
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19200 minor, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Master , Warns when exporting a basket
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19813 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , MarcItemFieldsToOrder cannot handle a tag not existing
16:59 jenkins * f.demians: Bug 19788: Preserve case sensitivity when creating Local preferences
16:59 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19788: Add a test
16:59 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 19494: Add reservedate to Holds awaiting pickup
16:59 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 19494: (QA follow-up) Rename column and apply title-string
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18458 normal, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Master , Merging authority record incorrectly orders subfields
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19621 minor, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Routing lists tab not present when viewing 'Holds history' tab for a patron
16:59 jenkins * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 19828: Unit tests
16:59 jenkins * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 19828: Make Koha::Object->store translate DBIC exceptions into Koha
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19840 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Patron note is not displayed on checkin
16:59 jenkins * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 19828: Fix tests that expect DBD errors instead of the exception
16:59 jenkins * josef.moravec: Bug 19828: (QA follow-up) Fix rethrowing exception and move rethrowing
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19702 minor, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Pushed to Master , Basket not displaying correctly on home page
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19788 trivial, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Case sensitivity is not preserved when creating local system preferences
16:59 jenkins * lari.taskula: Bug 19857: Use BorrowerUnwantedField system preference for SMS provider
16:59 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 16764: Update printers administration page
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Add reservedate to Holds awaiting pickup
16:59 jenkins * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 17951: Make koha-create set template_cache_dir correctly
16:59 jenkins * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 17951: (follow-up) Make Makefile.PL handle template_cache_dir config
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19828 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Koha::Object->store should catch DBIC exceptions and raise Koha::Exceptions
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19857 minor, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Pushed to Master , Optionally hide SMS provider field in patron modification screen
16:59 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19744: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Offline circulation
16:59 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19753: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Acquisitions
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16764 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update printers administration page
16:59 jenkins * josef.moravec: Bug 19753: (QA follow-up) Style invoices menu item when on individual
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17951 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-create should create the template cache dir and configure it in koha-conf.xml
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19744 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Offline circulation
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Acquisitions
17:05 Joubu oops
17:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19760: Fix Config.t test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]88ceafc5350a036b3>
17:08 Joubu wizzyrea: bug 6828
17:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, barry, Failed QA , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users.
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17:49 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:49 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
17:49 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #324: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/324/
17:49 jenkins Jonathan Druart: Bug 19760: Fix Config.t test
17:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19760 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Die instead of warn if koha-conf is not accessible
17:50 tcohen terminology
17:50 wahanui terminology is not used in koha
17:50 tcohen terminology?
17:50 wahanui terminology is probably not used in koha
17:50 tcohen terminology?
17:50 wahanui well, terminology is not used in koha
17:51 tcohen wahanui: forget terminology
17:51 wahanui tcohen: I forgot terminology
17:51 tcohen wahanui: terminology is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology
17:51 wahanui OK, tcohen.
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18:16 tcohen @later tell drojf is it possible that koha-common is not pulling libmojolicious-plugin-openapi-perl?
18:16 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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18:56 oleonard Merry holidays to all. Probably won't be back until next year!
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19:48 Joubu bye #koha enjoy the week-end :)
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