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gaetan_B |
hello |
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cait |
hello gaetan_B |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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waves |
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gaetan_B |
i have a marc21 question : when *not* using easyanalyticals, if i click "add child record" from the "new" button on a record, field 773 will be pre-filled with information from the "mother" record |
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gaetan_B |
but subfield 0 "host biblionumber" is empty |
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gaetan_B |
is it normal behaviour ? I would expect the link to be done |
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gaetan_B |
(it is the case in unimarc, but we don't really use easyanalyticals) |
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cait |
it's from 001 |
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cait |
it's not the biblionumber |
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cait |
if you have 001 that is used for linking, if not it will create a text link |
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cait |
that's MARC21 standard behaviour |
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cait |
and 001 is not filled by default in MARC21, unless you downloaded the record from somewhere |
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cait |
we have a plugin similar to stocknumberAV.pl to set it with a number |
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gaetan_B |
hmmm |
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gaetan_B |
that does make a pretty solid case for putting the biblionumber in 001 if you ask me then ;) |
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gaetan_B |
at least that is the solution i am looking for right here |
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gaetan_B |
thanks cait! |
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cait |
i would not recommend changing the configuration for marc21 |
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gaetan_B |
i have done it for a number of libraries for which it was a requirement |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
but you'll have to adapt indexing etc then too |
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gaetan_B |
yep, indeed |
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gaetan_B |
appart from marc mapping and the relevant zebra indexes, i don't think there's anything else, and it worked as expected |
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cait |
good to know |
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cait |
we don't do that because our 001 comes from the unionc atalog |
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cait |
and the $0 too - so the data is linked when importing |
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cait |
if you work with an external source like that, it's better this way and bibionumber not in 001 |
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gaetan_B |
ah,just checked there are actually 3 things that need to be changed : |
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gaetan_B |
the marc mapping, the koha indexes, and the xslt for result pages |
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cait |
yeah, we wouldn't want to do that - one version for all our libraries :) |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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magnuse |
one koha to rule them all! |
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cait |
it saves you a lot of headache |
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magnuse |
yup |
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BobB |
hi #koha |
10:29 |
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BobB |
what's the best source of user documentation for the Koha API? |
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BobB |
is there anything other than this: |
10:30 |
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BobB |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Rest_Api_HowTo |
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cait |
hi BobB |
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BobB |
hi cait :) |
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cait |
there is also https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Guidelines_-_API |
10:33 |
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cait |
what are you looking for? |
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cait |
there is not a lot in master yet, I think you can see here what exists http://git.koha-community.org/[…]839dadc488428e52a |
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BobB |
an identity provider wants to work on auto-provisioning of patron data |
10:34 |
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BobB |
to push new patrons and updates into koha |
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cait |
i am not sure if you can already create users |
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cait |
it looks like there is only list and get |
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cait |
tcohen would be the best person to talk to, maybe email him? |
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BobB |
ok, and i'll look for him tomorrow |
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cait |
i might be misreading, best to check with him |
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BobB |
thank you |
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magnuse |
there is bug 16330 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16330 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, In Discussion , REST API: add routes to add, update and delete patrons |
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magnuse |
BobB ^ |
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BobB |
hi magnuse |
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BobB |
I saw that one, it doesn't seem to be going forward |
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magnuse |
no, stuck for a long time |
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magnuse |
it's... interesting how little we have added to the new rest api |
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BobB |
when its needed it'll get added :) |
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magnuse |
i thought it was needed yesterday ;-) |
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cait |
i think the problem is that a lot of basic questions came up implementing the endpoints |
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cait |
like how to handle permissions etc |
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cait |
so things got stuck for the architecture work |
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BobB |
which probably needs blocks of time that nobody has |
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magnuse |
yeah, true |
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magnuse |
tcohen has been fixing things like that, i think |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
but he needs help testing etc of course |
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BobB |
maybe we can help there, I'll check with him |
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BobB |
so much to do (: |
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magnuse |
there was also a move from swagger to something else. openapi? |
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BobB |
ooh, that could be big |
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magnuse |
not sure if that means all the patches that have been written for the new rest api needs to be rewritten? |
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cait |
i think that might have been more a change in the name |
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cait |
but not sure |
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BobB |
ok |
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magnuse |
bug 18137 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, RESOLVED FIXED, REST API: Migrate from Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2 to Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI |
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magnuse |
the ill module bug got a patch to move from swagger to openapi, but it looks like that patch also fixed some other things: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]68564&action=diff |
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magnuse |
so i'm not sure if the size is indicative of the work needed to move patches from swagger to openapi |
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BobB |
hmm, we're some way from deploying 17.11 |
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BobB |
I might be going off too early on this one |
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BobB |
anyway, will chat with tcohen and see if we can help |
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magnuse |
BobB++ |
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BobB |
thanks both, late here, I'll pack up for now |
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cait |
good night BobB :) |
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BobB |
:) |
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magnuse |
have fun BobB |
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lari |
the move from swagger to openapi for old patches is trivial but there is still work being done on our REST API architecture |
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cait |
hey lari :) |
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lari |
hi cait! :) |
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cait |
hope we will see some pogress on the rest api - i think the patrons one would be great to have |
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cait |
lots of use cases for that |
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cait |
hi khall! |
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cait |
right, lunch time, bbiab |
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magnuse |
lari: maybe explain on the wiki what needs to be done to update patches from swagger to openapi? |
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magnuse |
hiya khall |
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khall |
mornin cait! |
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khall |
mornin magnuse! |
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magnuse |
W: Failed to fetch https://apt.abunchofthings.net[…]ry-amd64/Packages gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS fatal alert has been received. drojf[m]? |
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magnuse |
ah, switching from https to http fixed it |
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eythian |
hi |
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fridolin |
cait: hie dear RMaint |
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fridolin |
i've pused a few major bugs |
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fridolin |
i think i will not do more before release |
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jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #46: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/46/ |
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jenkins |
techservspec: Bug 18616 - The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username |
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oleonard |
If y'all were here with me I'd say GOOD MORNING |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #47: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/47/ |
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jenkins |
* kyle: Bug 19495: Automatic report conversion needs to do global replace on |
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jenkins |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Do not return an item if not checked out |
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jenkins |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Fix MarkIssueReturned.t |
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jenkins |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Refetch the object to get up-to-date values |
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jenkins |
* dcook: Bug 18884: Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Automatic report conversion needs to do global replace on 'biblioitems' and 'marcxml' |
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jenkins |
* arouss1980: Bug 19503: Duplicating a dropdown menu subfield yields an empty subfield |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18884 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not properly limiting |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19503 major, P5 - low, ---, arouss1980, Pushed to Stable , Duplicating a dropdown menu subfield yields an empty subfield tag |
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cait |
fridolin: thx for letting me know, dear RMaint :) |
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magnuse |
cait++ fridolin++ |
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fridolin |
its a pleasure :-[ |
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fridolin |
some bugs are realy dirtyyyy |
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* oleonard |
blushes |
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cait |
@seen drojf[m] |
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huginn |
cait: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. |
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eythian |
I suspect it dislikes the [] |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
not helpful |
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eythian |
maybe try '/lastlog drojf[m]' in your client |
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cait |
unknown |
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eythian |
ah, some clients do it, some don't |
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oleonard |
Every time I try to upload quotes I get an error message. "Uploads limited to csv. Incorrect filetype: unknown" |
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oleonard |
I swear I'm trying to upload a csv |
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oleonard |
Anyone know what's up with that? |
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kidclamp |
what's the mimetype on your file? |
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kidclamp |
csv from excel can get funny |
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oleonard |
I'm editing it as plain text |
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reiveune |
bye |
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gaetan_B |
cait: well after changing the whole setup and migrating the data anew, it turns out the host biblionumber still doesn't go into 773$0 when using "add child record", it does go into 773$w though... |
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gaetan_B |
so i can build my xslts around this to get the links to work |
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gaetan_B |
but, since the hostbiblionumber is in the url when using add child record, i would think it should go into $0, regardless of whether it is stored in 001 or 999 actually |
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gaetan_B |
annalytical records have always been a wrong idea though... |
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eythian |
oleonard: see how it detects filetypes. Perhaps there's a BOM in your file that's upsetting it or something. |
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cait |
gaetan_B: that's correct - $w is for linking records |
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cait |
$0 is for linking authorities and bibliographic records |
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gaetan_B |
oh |
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cait |
$w = record control number in MARC21 |
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gaetan_B |
but when using easyanalyticals, the host itemnumber goes in $9 and the host biblionumber in $0 |
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cait |
and your xslt shoudl work if you turn easy analytics off and UseControlNumber on |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
because that's wrong |
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gaetan_B |
that's an explanation :) |
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cait |
i don't like EasyAnalytics, it's no secret :) |
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oleonard |
Well... If anyone could try to upload a CSV of quotes I'd love to know if it works for them. |
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gaetan_B |
i don't like either cait :) in fact i don't like analytics |
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cait |
$9 is custom, so that's kind of not wrong |
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gaetan_B |
oleonard: sorry i don't like quote of the day either |
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gaetan_B |
or $9 |
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cait |
you are very negative today gaetan_B :) |
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gaetan_B |
just kidding ;) |
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cait |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd773.html |
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cait |
$0 doesn't exist |
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gaetan_B |
the whole $9/$0 thing made us really confused when trying to get easyanalyticals to work with unimarc |
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cait |
i understand |
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gaetan_B |
because in the unimarc setup $9 always has the biblionumber of the record we're linking to |
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cait |
the problem is mixing up item information into the record |
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gaetan_B |
so it made it inconsistent |
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cait |
it makes me uneasy |
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gaetan_B |
anyway |
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cait |
makes sense, in MARC21 we use $w for that |
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cait |
i think unimarc supported id linking when marc21 did not yet, something like that? |
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gaetan_B |
i've got a solution to my issue thanks to cait |
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gaetan_B |
probably |
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jbeno |
morning |
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cait |
gaetan_B: there is information on the wiki that is quite good |
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cait |
for the linking things in marc21 |
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caboose |
morning! |
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cait |
hi caboose |
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caboose |
:) |
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greenjimll |
cait: Does the documentation IRC meeting on 23rd Nov need to go onto the Koha calendar? I can't see it on there? |
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cait |
hm i don't know how to do it |
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cait |
we might postpone it, maybe wait a bit more - turns out I scheudled it on thanksgiving |
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oleonard |
cait how could you? |
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oleonard |
I've memorized every holiday from every country in the world to prevent this kind of faux pas |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
oleonard++ lots of patch writing |
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oleonard |
I could use a Catalyst Academy for some signoffs. |
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cait |
i think they just started looking for applications |
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cait |
maybe a gbsd? |
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oleonard |
At first I thought you said "Maybe a ghost?" |
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cait |
if we find one that we can bind to the dashboard somehow... |
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ibeardslee |
we have 31 applications |
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cait |
good number? |
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cait |
when does it start? :) |
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ibeardslee |
we need to trim it down to 20. It is the 8th to 19th of Jan, the 'project week' is 16th to 19th. |
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oleonard |
I can't wait that long! I'm gonna have to go with getting signoffs from a ghost. |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
ibeardslee: we like Catalyst Academy :) |
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ibeardslee |
we like Koha |
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oleonard |
Bye all |
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Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #83: FAILURE in 7 min 54 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/83/ |
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* techservspec: Bug 18616 - The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons |
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* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Do not return an item if not checked out |
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* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Fix MarkIssueReturned.t |
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* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Refetch the object to get up-to-date values |
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* dcook: Bug 18884: Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18884 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not properly limiting |
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tcohen about? |