Time  Nick             Message
23:51 BobB             tcohen about?
21:50 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18884 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not properly limiting
21:50 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out
21:50 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username
21:50 jenkins          * dcook: Bug 18884: Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not
21:50 jenkins          * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Refetch the object to get up-to-date values
21:50 jenkins          * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Fix MarkIssueReturned.t
21:50 jenkins          * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Do not return an item if not checked out
21:50 jenkins          * techservspec: Bug 18616 - The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons
21:50 jenkins          Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #83: FAILURE in 7 min 54 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11_D8/83/
19:55 oleonard         Bye all
19:24 ibeardslee       we like Koha
19:22 cait             ibeardslee: we like Catalyst Academy :)
19:21 cait             :)
19:21 oleonard         I can't wait that long! I'm gonna have to go with getting signoffs from a ghost.
19:20 ibeardslee       we need to trim it down to 20. It is the 8th to 19th of Jan, the 'project week' is 16th to 19th.
19:19 cait             when does it start? :)
19:19 cait             good number?
19:19 ibeardslee       we have 31 applications
19:18 cait             if we find one that we can bind to the dashboard somehow...
19:18 oleonard         At first I thought you said "Maybe a ghost?"
19:17 cait             maybe a gbsd?
19:16 cait             i think they just started looking for applications
19:12 oleonard         I could use a Catalyst Academy for some signoffs.
19:11 cait             oleonard++ lots of patch writing
19:02 cait             :)
18:54 oleonard         I've memorized every holiday from every country in the world to prevent this kind of faux pas
18:54 oleonard         cait how could you?
18:46 cait             we might postpone it, maybe wait a bit more - turns out I scheudled it on thanksgiving
18:45 cait             hm i don't know how to do it
18:45 greenjimll       cait: Does the documentation IRC meeting on 23rd Nov need to go onto the Koha calendar? I can't see it on there?
16:03 caboose          :)
16:02 cait             hi caboose
15:59 caboose          morning!
15:56 cait             for the linking things in marc21
15:56 cait             gaetan_B: there is information on the wiki that is quite good
15:55 jbeno            morning
15:54 gaetan_B         probably
15:54 gaetan_B         i've got a solution to my issue thanks to cait
15:54 cait             i think unimarc supported id linking when marc21 did not yet, something like that?
15:54 cait             makes sense, in MARC21 we use $w for that
15:53 gaetan_B         anyway
15:53 cait             it makes me uneasy
15:53 gaetan_B         so it made it inconsistent
15:53 cait             the problem is mixing up item information into the record
15:53 gaetan_B         because in the unimarc setup $9 always has the biblionumber of the record we're linking to
15:53 cait             i understand
15:53 gaetan_B         the whole $9/$0 thing made us really confused when trying to get easyanalyticals to work with unimarc
15:52 cait             $0 doesn't exist
15:52 cait             http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd773.html
15:52 gaetan_B         just kidding ;)
15:52 cait             you are very negative today gaetan_B :)
15:52 gaetan_B         or $9
15:52 gaetan_B         oleonard: sorry i don't like quote of the day either
15:52 cait             $9 is custom, so that's kind of not wrong
15:51 gaetan_B         i don't like either cait :) in fact i don't like analytics
15:51 oleonard         Well... If anyone could try to upload a CSV of quotes I'd love to know if it works for them.
15:51 cait             i don't like EasyAnalytics, it's no secret :)
15:50 gaetan_B         that's an explanation :)
15:50 cait             because that's wrong
15:50 cait             yes
15:50 cait             and your xslt shoudl work if you turn easy analytics off and UseControlNumber on
15:50 gaetan_B         but when using easyanalyticals, the host itemnumber goes in $9 and the host biblionumber in $0
15:50 cait             $w = record control number in  MARC21
15:49 gaetan_B         oh
15:49 cait             $0 is for linking authorities and bibliographic records
15:49 cait             gaetan_B: that's correct - $w is for linking records
15:34 eythian          oleonard: see how it detects filetypes. Perhaps there's a BOM in your file that's upsetting it or something.
15:32 gaetan_B         annalytical records have always been a wrong idea though...
15:32 gaetan_B         but, since the hostbiblionumber is in the url when using add child record, i would think it should go into $0, regardless of whether it is stored in 001 or 999 actually
15:31 gaetan_B         so i can build my xslts around this to get the links to work
15:31 gaetan_B         cait: well after changing the whole setup and migrating the data anew, it turns out the host biblionumber still doesn't go into 773$0 when using "add child record", it does go into 773$w though...
15:30 reiveune         bye
15:22 oleonard         I'm editing it as plain text
15:19 kidclamp         csv from excel can get funny
15:18 kidclamp         what's the mimetype on your file?
15:05 oleonard         Anyone know what's up with that?
15:04 oleonard         I swear I'm trying to upload a csv
15:04 oleonard         Every time I try to upload quotes I get an error message. "Uploads limited to csv. Incorrect filetype: unknown"
14:35 eythian          ah, some clients do it, some don't
14:35 cait             unknown
14:34 eythian          maybe try '/lastlog drojf[m]' in your client
14:34 cait             not helpful
14:34 cait             yeah
14:34 eythian          I suspect it dislikes the []
14:33 huginn           cait: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
14:33 cait             @seen drojf[m]
14:29 * oleonard       blushes
14:29 fridolin         some bugs are realy dirtyyyy
14:29 fridolin         its a pleasure :-[
14:28 magnuse          cait++ fridolin++
14:26 cait             fridolin: thx for letting me know, dear RMaint :)
14:22 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19503 major, P5 - low, ---, arouss1980, Pushed to Stable , Duplicating a dropdown menu subfield yields an empty subfield tag
14:22 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18884 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not properly limiting
14:22 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out
14:22 jenkins          * arouss1980: Bug 19503: Duplicating a dropdown menu subfield yields an empty subfield
14:22 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Automatic report conversion needs to do global replace on 'biblioitems' and 'marcxml'
14:22 jenkins          * dcook: Bug 18884: Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not
14:22 jenkins          * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Refetch the object to get up-to-date values
14:22 jenkins          * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Fix MarkIssueReturned.t
14:22 jenkins          * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Do not return an item if not checked out
14:22 jenkins          * kyle: Bug 19495: Automatic report conversion needs to do global replace on
14:22 jenkins          Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #47: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.05_D8/47/
14:18 oleonard         If y'all were here with me I'd say GOOD MORNING
13:41 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username
13:41 jenkins          techservspec: Bug 18616 - The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons
13:41 jenkins          Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #46: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.05_D8/46/
13:41 jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
13:41 fridolin         i think i will not do more before release
13:41 fridolin         i've pused a few major bugs
13:40 fridolin         cait: hie dear RMaint
13:30 eythian          hi
12:45 magnuse          ah, switching from https to http fixed it
12:43 magnuse          W: Failed to fetch https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly/dists/unstable/main/binary-amd64/Packages  gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS fatal alert has been received. drojf[m]?
11:09 khall            mornin magnuse!
11:09 khall            mornin cait!
11:06 magnuse          hiya khall
11:06 magnuse          lari: maybe explain on the wiki what needs to be done to update patches from swagger to openapi?
11:04 cait             right, lunch time, bbiab
11:04 cait             hi khall!
11:04 cait             lots of use cases for that
11:04 cait             hope we will see some pogress on the rest api - i think the patrons one would be great to have
11:01 lari             hi cait! :)
10:59 cait             hey lari :)
10:57 lari             the move from swagger to openapi for old patches is trivial but there is still work being done on our REST API architecture
10:53 magnuse          have fun BobB
10:52 BobB             :)
10:52 cait             good night BobB :)
10:51 BobB             thanks both, late here, I'll pack up for now
10:51 magnuse          BobB++
10:51 BobB             anyway, will chat with tcohen and see if we can help
10:51 BobB             I might be going off too early on this one
10:50 BobB             hmm, we're some way from deploying 17.11
10:50 magnuse          so i'm not sure if the size is indicative of the work needed to move patches from swagger to openapi
10:50 magnuse          the ill module bug got a patch to move from swagger to openapi, but it looks like that patch also fixed some other things: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=68564&action=diff
10:48 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, RESOLVED FIXED, REST API: Migrate from Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2 to Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI
10:48 magnuse          bug 18137
10:47 BobB             ok
10:47 cait             but not sure
10:47 cait             i think that might have been more a change in the name
10:47 magnuse          not sure if that means all the patches that have been written for the new rest api needs to be rewritten?
10:47 BobB             ooh, that could be big
10:46 magnuse          there was also a move from swagger to something else. openapi?
10:46 BobB             so much to do (:
10:45 BobB             maybe we can help there, I'll check with him
10:45 cait             but he needs help testing etc of course
10:45 cait             yep
10:44 magnuse          tcohen has been fixing things like that, i think
10:44 magnuse          yeah, true
10:44 BobB             which probably needs blocks of time that nobody has
10:43 cait             so things got stuck for the architecture work
10:43 cait             like how to handle permissions etc
10:43 cait             i think the problem is that a lot of basic questions came up implementing the endpoints
10:42 magnuse          i thought it was needed yesterday ;-)
10:41 BobB             when its needed it'll get added :)
10:41 magnuse          it's... interesting how little we have added to the new rest api
10:41 magnuse          no, stuck for a long time
10:40 BobB             I saw that one, it doesn't seem to be going forward
10:40 BobB             hi magnuse
10:38 magnuse          BobB ^
10:38 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16330 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, In Discussion , REST API: add routes to add, update and delete patrons
10:38 magnuse          there is bug 16330
10:37 BobB             thank you
10:37 cait             i might be misreading, best to check with him
10:37 BobB             ok, and i'll look for him tomorrow
10:35 cait             tcohen would be the best person to talk to, maybe email him?
10:35 cait             it looks like there is only list and get
10:35 cait             i am not sure if you can already create users
10:34 BobB             to push new patrons and updates into koha
10:34 BobB             an identity provider wants to work on auto-provisioning of patron data
10:34 cait             there is not a lot in master yet, I think you can see here what exists http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=api/v1/swagger/paths.json;h=9c3a6d2efdf86d2e8e6727b68bc471b12cea215b;hb=d149f1963e3f23f2fc880fa839dadc488428e52a
10:33 cait             what are you looking for?
10:33 cait             there is also https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines_-_API
10:33 BobB             hi cait :)
10:33 cait             hi BobB
10:30 BobB             https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Rest_Api_HowTo
10:30 BobB             is there anything other than this:
10:29 BobB             what's the best source of user documentation for the Koha API?
10:29 BobB             hi #koha
09:35 magnuse          yup
09:34 cait             it saves you a lot of headache
09:29 magnuse          one koha to rule them all!
09:22 alex_a           bonjour
09:16 cait             yeah, we wouldn't want to do that - one version for all our libraries :)
09:16 gaetan_B         the marc mapping, the koha indexes, and the xslt for result pages
09:16 gaetan_B         ah,just checked  there are actually 3 things that need to be changed :
09:16 cait             if you work with an external source like that, it's better this way and bibionumber not in 001
09:15 cait             and the $0 too - so the data is linked when importing
09:15 cait             we don't do that because our 001 comes from the unionc atalog
09:15 cait             good to know
09:13 gaetan_B         appart from marc mapping and the relevant zebra indexes, i don't think there's anything else, and it worked as expected
09:12 gaetan_B         yep, indeed
09:12 cait             but you'll have to adapt indexing etc then too
09:12 cait             hm
09:11 gaetan_B         i have done it for a number of libraries for which it was a requirement
09:11 cait             i would not recommend changing the configuration for marc21
09:11 gaetan_B         thanks cait!
09:11 gaetan_B         at least that is the solution i am looking for right here
09:10 gaetan_B         that does make a pretty solid case for putting the biblionumber in 001 if you ask me then ;)
09:10 gaetan_B         hmmm
09:03 cait             we have a plugin similar to stocknumberAV.pl to set it with a number
09:03 cait             and 001 is not filled by default in MARC21, unless you downloaded the record from somewhere
09:02 cait             that's MARC21 standard behaviour
09:02 cait             if you have 001 that is used for linking, if not it will create a text link
09:02 cait             it's not the biblionumber
09:02 cait             it's from 001
08:55 gaetan_B         (it is the case in unimarc, but we don't really use easyanalyticals)
08:54 gaetan_B         is it normal behaviour ? I would expect the link to be done
08:54 gaetan_B         but subfield 0 "host biblionumber" is empty
08:54 gaetan_B         i have a marc21 question : when *not* using easyanalyticals, if i click "add child record" from the "new" button on a record, field 773 will be pre-filled with information from the "mother" record
08:43 * cait           waves
08:42 * magnuse        waves
08:38 cait             hello gaetan_B
08:31 gaetan_B         hello
07:26 reiveune         hello
06:51 LibraryClaire    hi #koha
06:49 fridolin         hi
00:37 caboose-kidsOPAC hello!