IRC log for #koha, 2017-11-03

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03:42 * dcook waves to #koha
03:42 dcook Anyone familiar with the translations around?
03:43 dcook I've been emailing Bernardo for weeks and weeks but no answer :/
03:45 dcook Anyone have access to
03:45 dcook rangi? gmcharlt? bag?
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06:54 marcelr hi #koha
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07:12 * magnuse waves
07:14 * dcook waves
07:14 * dcook also waves goodbye ^_^
07:14 dcook @last bgkriegel
07:14 huginn` dcook: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
07:14 dcook @seen bgkriegel
07:14 huginn` dcook: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 0 days, 8 hours, 48 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> Ok, need to go, bye all :)
07:14 dcook :(
07:14 dcook No wonder I haven't heard from it in forever
07:15 * dcook is keen to get a language on but the list seems dead and bgkriegel doesn't answer his email
07:15 dcook And I'm off..
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07:45 fridolin hi thre
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07:47 reiveune hello
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08:09 magnuse @later tell tcohen "dcook is keen to get a language on but the list seems dead and bgkriegel doesn't answer his email"
08:09 huginn` magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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08:27 magnuse guten morgen, BüchereiKlara
08:27 LibraryClaire1 hey magnuse
08:28 magnuse wie gehts?
08:33 LibraryClaire1 not bad, busy busy preparing exercises for libraries
08:35 LibraryClaire1 how are you?
08:42 tuxayo Hi :) First time using "koha-translate" to manage I18n, after doing `koha-translate --install fr-FR` the new lang is usable but  `koha-translate --list` and `koha-translate --update fr-FR` report no installed languages. Did I miss a step?
08:42 tuxayo Suspicion: The doc says to run it with sudo but in the KohaDevBox, I can't find the default password of the kohadev-koha user. Considering the vagrant user doesn't have a password, I think if kohadev-koha was meant to use sudo, it wouldn't also have a password.
08:43 magnuse LibraryClaire1: busy busy :-)
08:44 magnuse tuxayo: you should not have to think about the password for kohadev-koha
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08:44 magnuse all the koha-* scripts should be run with sudo
08:44 * andreashm waves
08:44 magnuse hiya andreashm
08:45 andreashm hi magnuse!
08:46 magnuse tuxayo: yes, you have to be the vagrant user to use sudo, not kohadev-koha
08:52 tuxayo magnuse: thanks, at least I can stop trying to guess kohadev-koha's password ^^ (could have refined it though)
08:52 tuxayo The vagrant user doesn't have koha-translate in it's path, whereas kohadev-koha do. I don't get why if koha-translate is meant to be used with sudo
08:52 magnuse works for me
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08:53 magnuse can you run other koha-* scripts as the vagrant-user (with sudo)?
08:55 tuxayo magnuse: With the vagrant user, I only have these in PATH koha-intra-err  koha-opac-err   koha-pass       koha-plack-err  koha-plack-log  koha-user
08:55 tuxayo kohadev-koha has 31 koha-* commands
08:57 eythian if you run things with sudo they mayhave a different path
08:59 tuxayo eythian: they would still be in PATH but with a different name???
08:59 tuxayo suspicion: my DevBox is based on Debian 9 (stretch) whereas the default is still 8/Jessie
08:59 eythian no, the path may be different
08:59 eythian so it will find tihngs in, e.g. /usr/sbin that it wouldn't find without sudo
09:00 eythian $ echo $PATH
09:00 eythian /home/robin/local/bin:/home/robin/bin:/usr/loc​al/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbi​n:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
09:00 eythian $ sudo bash -c 'echo $PATH'
09:00 eythian [sudo] wachtwoord voor robin:
09:00 eythian /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr​/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin
09:00 magnuse yeah, try "koha-<tab><tab>" and "sudo koha-<tab><tab>"
09:00 eythian (this is just my user, may or may not apply to devbox stuff.)
09:00 tuxayo eythian: that was it! :-D
09:01 magnuse vagrant user
09:01 tuxayo eythian: thanks, I shoudn't have been worried to not see then in autocompletion...
09:01 eythian sometimes autocomplete can be smart, but it's not a given
09:06 tuxayo magnuse: btw, it seems the rain you sent got lost in the way :( i don't know where it went but at least it's not on you anymore ^^
09:07 magnuse well, we have lots of new rain here, if you want some
09:08 tuxayo magnuse: then maybe your first try just bounced back at you then :-P
09:08 magnuse could be!
09:09 magnuse next time i will not put the sender address on the back of it
09:10 tuxayo magnuse: you have to, Rain over IP are still IP packets so with a sender address. However, it can be forged ;)
09:11 tuxayo Now the translation is installed but the folders aren't create and it's not available in the UI. But --list reports the translation to be there!
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09:45 TribbleX Hello
09:51 andreashm hi TribbleX
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09:55 TribbleX_ Hello
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10:51 marcelr kidclamp: when is Eventually  LOL
10:53 kidclamp when someone wants to spend more time than me :-) if it had been trivial I would have done, there are a few code changes that will need to be sorted
10:54 kidclamp also, windows is dumb, I don't want to use 'alt' or other keys because they don't make intuitive sense, trying to see if I can figure out why the keys aren't working
11:00 marcelr np
11:01 marcelr going back to bug 19420
11:01 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Improve display of errors from failure of uploading file during stage import
11:04 kidclamp running away for a bit
11:10 TribbleX_ Knows someone something to change the language in koha? I installed the language paket and config the files but the browser frontend stays in english. Could someone help me?
11:25 marcelr have to go; bye #koha
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12:10 tomascohen TribbleX: You enabled the languages on the preferences, right?
12:11 * tomascohen uploaded an image: image.png (68KB) <[…]LjASWDJeophrTQwKj>
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12:24 gmcharlt @quote random
12:24 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #132: "<oleonard> nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think" (added by druthb at 02:07 PM, May 20, 2011)
12:24 oleonard I'm pretty sure that was when we all wondered what time the end of the world was supposed to arrive.
12:31 TribbleX_ No. In what file are the preferences?
12:32 eythian oleonard: surely Ctulhu Standard Time would be more relevant.
12:33 oleonard eythian: I'm pretty sure the word at the time was that it was Jesus' show. I don't know if he and Cthulhu are on the same clock.
12:36 tomascohen TribbleX_: translations are not installed using a package (they are generated using the koha-translate script) and system preferences are set on the administration UI.
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12:36 oleonard Why do I not have a spare eighty bucks to drop on a novelty holiday sweater?[…]/products/cthulhu
12:37 eythian It's an important question
12:49 TribbleX_ I thought, I install with koha-translate --install de-DE
12:49 TribbleX_ This ran ...
12:51 tomascohen TribbleX_: yeah, that's the command. After that get into the Intranet (admin interface)
12:52 TribbleX_ ok, i m in the interface
12:52 tomascohen and go Koha administration > Global system preferences > i18n/l10n (tab)
12:52 tomascohen you will find language and opaclanguages
12:53 tomascohen there is where you enable the installed translations
12:53 tomascohen if you want to the OPAC users to change the language, then set  opaclanguagedisplay too
12:53 tomascohen ok=
12:53 tomascohen ?
12:55 TribbleX_ ok I opened the global system
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12:57 TribbleX_ Thank You TomasCohen, my godfather of koha. I found the checkboxes
12:59 TribbleX_ It works. I have my language. Thank you very very much ...
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13:10 tuxayo tomascohen: interesting, I though I had the same issue in my KohaDevBox. But it turns out that even though koha-translate --list returns me "fr-FR", the sysprefs only lists "en".
13:10 tuxayo Suspicion: The Koha code is shared with host machine (NFS mount according to the DevBox doc) and when verbosely installing the lang with koha-translate, it said that it was putting them in /usr/[...] in the DevBox.
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13:13 tomascohen tuxayo: the problem is koha-translate only touches packages-related translations, and you are working on a dev install
13:13 tomascohen you should install the translation in a different way
13:13 magnuse what he said ^
13:13 tomascohen cd /home/vagrant/kohaclone/misc/translation
13:14 tomascohen perl translate install fr-FR
13:14 tomascohen et voila
13:14 tomascohen !nick tcohen
13:16 tcohen trying to set the matrix
13:16 tcohen phew
13:30 tuxayo tcohen: Alright, that invalidates what I was doing. I used "perl translate" until now. But I wanted to try with koha-translate because of the i18n bug 19522 where I submitted a patch. It couldn't be signoff and we suspected a perl translate vs koha-translate issue. But it seems that doesn't make sense. Thanks for making me realize that it was a dead end.
13:30 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19522 minor, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Needs Signoff , Label creator - some strings are not translatable
13:44 tcohen tuxayo: the bug is not related to administrative commands anyway
13:45 tcohen koha-translate is nothing else than a wrapper to translate...
13:48 tuxayo tcohen: that's what I though, it was to fully dismiss this hypothesis. (and the occasion to setup a DevBox which will be useful latter)
13:51 tcohen one of the issues with KohaDevBox is that on simplifying things to lower the barrier for devs to get right into playing with Koha, it hides some (fixable) historical oddities on how we handle things and weird things happen
13:51 tcohen I still think we are better like this
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14:09 mtompset @seen marcelr
14:09 huginn` mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 44 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <marcelr> have to go; bye #koha
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14:10 mtompset @seen kidclamp
14:10 huginn` mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 6 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <kidclamp> running away for a bit
14:11 mtompset @seen Joubu
14:11 huginn` mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 37 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <Joubu> kidclamp: please test :)
14:12 mtompset Easy sign off bug 19576
14:12 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19576 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , opac-detail has multiple Koha::Biblios
14:14 tcohen mtompset: the subject doesn't read ok to me
14:15 mtompset duplicate, multiple... the meaning overlaps.
14:16 mtompset bug 19576 -- better?
14:17 * mtompset has to run.
14:17 mtompset Have a great day, #koha tcohen
14:17 tcohen Koha::Biblios loaded twice in
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14:19 tcohen !msg magnuse
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16:28 Joubu Simon?
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17:01 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19176: (QA follow-up) few cosmetic changes <[…]2e58783e733cdd839> / Bug 19576: Remove extra 'use Koha::Biblios' statement <[…]be590a5e43370b450>
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17:26 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #287: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/287/
17:26 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 19576: Remove extra 'use Koha::Biblios' statement
17:26 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19176: (QA follow-up) few cosmetic changes
17:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19576 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , opac-detail has duplicate 'use Koha::Biblios;'
17:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19176 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Dates comparison fails on slow server
17:37 reiveune bye
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18:19 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:19 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #288: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/288/
18:23 Joubu tcohen: ^ There is a real hidden bug actually
18:23 tcohen I bet there is
18:41 Joubu khall: Could you take a look at bug 19578?
18:41 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19578 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , TT syntax for notices - There is no way to pre-process DB fields
19:04 khall will do Joubu !
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19:15 * cait waves
19:22 JesseM Hi cait
19:32 cait hi JesseM :)
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19:43 tcohen later #koha, have a nice weekend
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21:24 Radius_CZ Hi all, I'd like to ask somebody who can help me with Koha plugin. I have enabled administration settings, koha_conf.xml, successfully installed Kyle's Kitchen Sink, but there are problems with displaying its logo for instance. In addition, my own plugin does not load any resource like PNG, CSS or JS. All these files always return 404.
21:26 cait I tihnk the logo i broken - I filed a bug for that in the plugin repository
21:26 kidclamp_away Hi Radius, it may me the permissions on the files/folders themselves. or a need to set access via apache
21:26 cait not sure about the other problems, sorry
21:26 kidclamp_away but I also think logo is broken
21:26 * kidclamp_away away away now :-)
21:26 cait bye kidclamp_away :)
21:26 Radius_CZ bye kidclamp
21:27 cait your user has plugin permissions?
21:27 cait plugin path is correct? system preference turned on?
21:27 cait hm guess you did
21:27 Radius_CZ well… is there a workaround at least? I'd like to develop a plugin which needs to use CSS and JS. And they are not loaded…
21:28 cait I'd take a look at the permissions as kidclamp_away suggested
21:28 Radius_CZ I will send you link to a picture, moment, please
21:28 Radius_CZ
21:28 Radius_CZ I think permissions look ok… what do you think?
21:29 cait weekends are really quiet here - you might have more luck on the mailng list or trying here on monday
21:29 cait sorry, I haven't worked with plugins so far, so can't tell
21:29 cait i am pretty sure what you want to do should be possible
21:29 Radius_CZ Ok, never mind. Thanks anyway for suggestions.
21:30 cait or if there is an issue - we should file a bug for it, but can not really help finding ht eproblem :(
21:30 Radius_CZ Don't you know, how I can check apache's settings or paths? I bet the problem could be there.
21:33 cait apache and me are not very good friends :)
21:34 cait i only know that the plugin path is set in the koha-conf.xml
21:38 Radius_CZ Never mind :) I'm looking into kohadev's apache config right now and maybe I will find a solution.
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