IRC log for #koha, 2017-10-16

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07:26 * magnuse waves
07:26 marcelr o/
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08:48 * cait waves good morning
08:52 marcelr hi cait
08:52 marcelr cait++ # SO
08:52 cait marcelr++
08:52 cait sorry for everything I missed
08:52 marcelr you had your own signoff day
08:52 cait trying to get the qeueu into a manageable state again
08:53 magnuse cait++
08:53 cait just a lazy weekend :)
08:53 cait but testing as best as I can, but there will be quite a lot that I can't test really :(
08:53 cait magnuse: was wondering if you could give the rdf things another try?
08:57 magnuse cait: yeah, i should do that
08:57 magnuse not 100% sure it makes sense to get these pieces in without something more building on top of it, though
08:57 magnuse and ill is my #1 priority :-)
08:58 cait there is something in the queue for minting something... and others are in needs sign-off
08:58 cait maybe some step by step is ok as long as it doesn't break stuff?
09:02 magnuse yeah, and would be cool to have it in before i finish my work for andreashm
09:03 magnuse time is the big problem here...
09:04 eythian hi
09:10 cait magnuse: not many candidates for that one to test - maybe worth making some time if you also need it
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10:09 marcelr hi eythian: summer is back
10:41 marcelr has been marked as unsafe ?
10:42 eythian marcelr: yeah, had what's probably the last balcony lunch of the year just now.
10:42 eythian marcelr: not unsafe for me
10:43 marcelr ok
10:45 marcelr @later tell Joubu Did you advertise the new roles page on the ml?
10:45 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
11:02 eythian drojf[m]: https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbc[…]865e6&oe=5A7AD1DE
11:09 cait wonders what [m] is
11:10 marcelr mobile ?
11:10 cait ah boring
11:11 cait the dashboard is already up by 3 again for needs signoff
11:11 cait tsk
11:11 marcelr what is tsk
11:11 cait ah sound
11:11 cait a disapproving one :)
11:12 marcelr i added two, cait
11:12 marcelr so easy to sign off
11:12 cait tsk. ;)
11:12 cait I expected some to come back, even hoping for some to come back
11:12 cait we are running out of time to process things
11:13 cait I think probably have to leave all the things issuingrules for next release
11:13 cait but having the fines/accounts thing would be nice, I think they are already mostly in the qa queue
11:14 marcelr 14826 is not yet pushed
11:14 marcelr i have been waiting for that
11:14 cait bug 14826
11:14 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14826 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Resurrect account offsets table
11:14 cait yeah, it's the base, i guess?
11:14 marcelr yes
11:14 cait hope Joubu is nt waiting for the others :)
11:15 marcelr deadlock..
11:15 cait marcelr: we have the cas single log out in the queue for a while now... hope it will happen
11:15 * cait is willing to pay in sign off currency :P
11:15 marcelr heh
11:15 marcelr someone pushed to SO queue to 150 again
11:15 marcelr the
11:15 cait we have libraries with the code in using local, ldap, shibboleth and cas, so far no problems
11:16 marcelr sounds good
11:16 cait maybe that move was not thought through
11:16 cait we ported it back to 16.11 - but basically no conflicts
11:17 marcelr are you still on 16.11
11:17 cait and was tested in master too
11:17 cait kind of moving to 16.11 still
11:17 cait we are slow :)
11:17 marcelr well it seems the safest version atm
11:17 cait pretty busy this year
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11:40 Joubu hi #koha
11:40 marcelr hi Joubu
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11:49 * magnuse hopes atheia gets the tests for bug 7317 done today
11:49 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Failed QA , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC
11:53 * ashimema hasn't seen atheia online for days..
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11:53 * ashimema has been a tad absorbed in other projects though.. so may have just missed him
11:54 magnuse he might just not be on irc, i guess
11:54 magnuse his plan was to get those tests done today
11:55 * magnuse hopes Joubu will consider 7317 as a rel_17_11_candidate if the tests are signed off today and qa'ed pretty soon
11:56 * ashimema just asked around and colin_c tells me alex is in a room working on it with headphones on to drown out the babies noise ;)
11:57 Joubu I used rel_17_11_candidate as a personal wishlist so far
11:59 Joubu marcelr: bug 19069, do you think we should remove the 2 "not" options?
11:59 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19069 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , "Doesn't match" option fails in MARC Modification Templates
12:00 marcelr no
12:00 Joubu (instead of trying to fix them)
12:00 marcelr you can only selectively remove them with js
12:00 marcelr better fix them ?
12:01 Joubu can you elaborate, why should not we remove them?
12:01 marcelr it becomes worse if you are combining expressions
12:01 marcelr it is user friendly
12:02 marcelr multiple expr with unless are not so intuitive
12:02 marcelr but if you insist, just remove them ;)
12:04 marcelr we dont need them when they are broken
12:06 marcelr delete field x when y matches 1 and z doesnt match 2
12:06 cait maybe ILL could be a labs candidate if it's not perfect yet
12:07 magnuse that would definnitely be better than not getting it in
12:07 magnuse ashimema: awesome :-)
12:08 Joubu hum, getting in something not fully reviewed (and huge) better than not having it? :)
12:09 marcelr dont think so
12:09 marcelr we already have enough of that
12:09 Joubu cait: fyi, the qa script has a --failures flag, you should try it
12:09 cait what doesit do?
12:10 Joubu display failures only
12:10 cait given that you can turn it off and that it's not heavily broken of course
12:10 cait if there is chance of regression also not
12:11 Joubu cait: to turn 16.11.x green you need bug 19440
12:11 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19440 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , XISBN tests should skip if XISBN returns overlimit error
12:13 marcelr Joubu: TestBuilder is not random enough probably
12:13 marcelr maybe some old test data still exists
12:14 Joubu then let's remove the number of loops and force it to return a non-existent value?
12:14 cait Joubu: I know, but waiting for fridolon
12:14 cait fridolin
12:14 cait it's on my watch list, will push as soon as he does
12:14 cait not affecting strings, so there are still a few days
12:16 Joubu marcelr: I do not think it's related to old data: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ct___tests__878_/
12:16 marcelr ok well we could indeed force nonexistent values
12:17 cait Joubu: will you tell me about --failures now? :)
12:17 marcelr if it is always old checkouts, is there anything special with that ?
12:17 cait and running the script as part of the shortcut in kohadev currently
12:18 marcelr most issues are with issues :)
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12:23 fridolin cait:  hi, i add 19440 to push on stable oki
12:23 cait :)
12:23 fridolin it should be done today
12:23 cait no strings, it will make it
12:23 fridolin indeed
12:24 fridolin free like pinocio : no strings ;)
12:24 cait hopefully without the nose bug
12:25 fridolin :-D
12:25 cait :)
12:26 Joubu @later tell mtj do not forget 19441 for the next 16.05.x release, even if not PQA
12:26 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:27 Joubu cait: it display failures only
12:27 cait oh nices :)
12:27 cait bbl :)
12:32 magnuse why would PREDUE and ODUE *almost* consistently fail to be sent via SMS when other messages work just fine?
12:36 Joubu marcelr, cait: I am waiting for bug 12768 to push bug 14826
12:36 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12768 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Signed Off , Replacement cost and processing fee management
12:36 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14826 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Resurrect account offsets table
12:36 marcelr Joubu: but you are generally satisfied with 14826?
12:37 Joubu generally, yes
12:37 marcelr ok
12:37 Joubu I'd like to do a complete review/test, but not two :)
12:38 marcelr well, consider reviewing the second without first
12:46 marcelr Joubu: are yoy obsoleting my patches ;)
12:46 marcelr you
12:47 Joubu yes
12:47 marcelr last follow-up will not work anymore
12:47 Joubu I can deal with that
12:47 marcelr i dont mind not-expired
12:47 Joubu I am an expert in rebasing
12:48 marcelr i have three reports based on this one
12:48 marcelr and now you want a fourth
12:49 Joubu I just do not want this kind of change part of QA follow-up when I think they should be put on their own bug reports
12:50 Joubu I can open, fill and push the bug report/patch if you want
12:50 marcelr i will open one now
12:50 marcelr but i think it is not a big deal
12:50 Joubu for instance there is misc/maintenance/make_zebr​a_dom_cfg_from_record_abs as well
12:51 marcelr could be, focusing on this one
12:51 marcelr if i find one bug, there are more
12:52 Joubu same for me :)
12:54 marcelr Joubu: bug 19472 needs rebasing after your rebase
12:54 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add perl extension to borrowers-force-messaging-defaults
12:59 Joubu marcelr: what about %s/force-borrower-messaging-defaults/f​ ?
12:59 Joubu
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13:01 marcelr yes when starting with force is better
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13:01 marcelr i just have to fix 4 reports
13:01 marcelr :)
13:02 marcelr note that some options make force selective
13:02 marcelr we also could call it update
13:02 marcelr i added options for category and nonempty
13:03 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18298: DBRev <[…]cb77835a0d702f401> / Bug 18298: (QA followup) Use Koha.Preference on the template <[…]8dcf2c7aeb41235f8> / Bug 18298: Add server-side checks and refactor stuffs <[…]git;a=commitdiff;
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13:09 Joubu marcelr: bug 18961 comment 8, what do you mean?
13:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18961 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Datatable column filters of style 'select' should do an exact match
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13:10 marcelr just what it says ?
13:11 Joubu we want to search with "%$term%" for the 5 columns with a dropdown list
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13:11 Joubu I exhaustively listed the 5 DB fields
13:11 Joubu yes what it says, maybe, but I do not get it
13:11 marcelr but these columns may or may not be authority controlled
13:12 marcelr you do not know what users did
13:12 marcelr or admins
13:12 marcelr maybe ccode became free text or whatever
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13:12 Joubu we are talking about "ccode homebranch holdingbranch location notforloan", and the problem is for ccode
13:13 Joubu but ok, I get your point now
13:13 marcelr it is theoretical for ccode
13:13 marcelr i'd prefer to push your patch above fridolins idea
13:13 Joubu the fix will be much more complex
13:13 marcelr yeah
13:14 marcelr might not be worth the effort
13:14 Joubu yes, that is my point :)
13:14 Joubu maybe we should add a fixme then
13:14 marcelr fine
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13:26 Joubu francharb: Hi! Could you (or someone from your team) take a look at bug 13572 and tell us if you agree/disagree with renaming the option?
13:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13572 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, remi.mayrand-provencher, Passed QA , Add actives parameter to force_borrower_messaging_defaults script
13:28 oleonard khall around?
13:28 marcelr Joubu: or rename it on a separate report ;)
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13:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19373: Update tests
13:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19373: CAS logout - Redirect to the previous page (Intranet)
13:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18298: Enforce password complexity
13:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18298: Use the validate jQuery plugin
13:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19373 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CAS Login for staff interface always go back to home.
13:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18298: Move password generation to template side
13:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18298: minPaswordLength should not be < 3
13:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18298: minPasswordLength should not be used as the default password
13:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18298: Add server-side checks and refactor stuffs
13:32 Guest6582 * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18298: (QA followup) Use Koha.Preference on the template
13:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18298 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Allow enforcing password complexity
13:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18298: DBRev
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13:36 mtompset @seen khall
13:36 huginn` mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 2 days, 23 hours, 10 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <khall> if it needs any more work I'd be happy to do it, but I think i'm in too deep to be comfortable qa'ing at this point ; )
13:36 mtompset Anyone have a 1-2MB Record they could lend me?
13:36 mtompset bug 18909
13:36 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18909 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Enable the maximum zebra records size to be specified per instance
13:39 Joubu @later tell francharb Hi! Could you (or someone from your team) take a look at bug 13572 and tell us if you agree/disagree with renaming the option?
13:39 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:42 oleonard Sometimes I get behind on my Koha emails and miss a new feature, but this new "shoe creation" option sounds pretty cool.
13:43 mtompset shoe creation?
13:45 oleonard http://lists.koha-community.or[…]tober/269449.html
13:47 mtompset oh, show... the typo threw me. :)
13:48 oleonard I genuinely pondered for a moment how shoes were related to Koha.
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13:49 mtompset As did I! *laugh*
13:56 eythian I don't get it? How do you track your shoes if not an ILS?
13:57 oleonard You should see the flame wars on the catalogers mailing list about whether each one of a pair gets its own item record.
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13:58 eythian[…]18222753500508160 <-- "gitcoin: the author of the commit sha1 with the longest prefix of 0's in your repository is now the project maintainer"
14:01 oleonard I wonder what might cause a JS error on the circulation page ("Show checkouts") if not an invalid json response
14:04 Guest6582 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #266: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/266/
14:11 oleonard Lotta gaps on this, folks. https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_18.05
14:11 oleonard Joubu++ # Great job being RM, wish we could keep you in that position.
14:12 oleonard oleonard-- # was a bad Koha citizen this cycle, hopes to do more in the next round
14:12 huginn` oleonard: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
14:12 oleonard Tell that to my ego, huginn`
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14:21 mtompset Yikes! Gaps is an understatement, oleonard.
14:21 mtompset It's a bunch of gaping wounds.
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15:08 cait Joubu: marcelr - listed columns would be ok for me for an exact match, for callnumber, inventory number etc. the curretn behaviour is nice
15:08 cait but they are not controlled
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15:15 cait oleonard: ask LibraryClaire... i was mumbling something about shoes this morning as well
15:16 cait roles has not been on the list yet, has it?
15:19 Joubu I do not think so
15:19 cait ok
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15:30 Guest6582 * charles.farmer: Bug 13572: Add --actives parameter to force_borrower_messaging_defaults
15:30 Guest6582 * Bug 13572: (follow-up) Print since on a separate line
15:30 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13572: Rename option with "--not-expired"
15:30 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13572: Patrons are still active if their expiry date is today
15:30 Guest6582 * Bug 19472: Add perl extension to script
15:30 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13572 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, remi.mayrand-provencher, Pushed to Master , Add actives parameter to force_borrower_messaging_defaults script
15:30 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19472: Update SYNOPSIS with the correct script name
15:30 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Add perl extension to borrowers-force-messaging-defaults
15:39 mtompset How do we rebuild the schema files?
15:39 mtompset Wiki is not being useful to me. :(
15:40 Joubu there is a dbic alias
15:40 Joubu see in misc/devel
15:42 mtompset there is? I didn't see it... Perhaps my eyes were too blurry. I'll look again.
15:42 mtompset oh that's why... I was koha-shelled.
15:42 mtompset Joubu++ # thanks
15:44 cait it's also on the wiki, i think on th e page about how to make database updates
15:44 cait cya later #koha :)
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15:50 oleonard https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ha-upgrade-schema
15:50 mtompset Tried that... that does rebuild the Koha/Results/.... stuff.
15:50 mtompset doesn't.
15:52 mtompset Strange. My kohadevbox is loadaverage 2?!
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17:00 reiveune bye
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17:05 oleonard @seen pianohacker
17:05 huginn` oleonard: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 21 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <pianohacker> hi cait :)
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17:39 pianohacker oleonard: I exist!
17:39 pianohacker hi
17:39 oleonard Hi pianohacker, I was just about to ask you about some issues I've had with yarn but I think I figured it out
17:40 pianohacker oleonard: what did you run into, out of curiosity?
17:40 oleonard npm seems to have issues with symlinks when one runs kohadevbox with SMB=1
17:41 oleonard I've been trying to put some polish on this branch with staff-global.css re-done in SCSS, and I'm finally at the "what the heck does yarn do?" stage :)
17:42 oleonard Seems pretty cool now that I learn a little something
17:42 pianohacker ohhh, that makes sense
17:42 pianohacker excellent!
17:42 * oleonard waits for a new kohadevbox to spin up to test his hypothesis
17:43 pianohacker I never came through on splitting out my yarn/gulp work; is that something that would still be useful? It'll end up posted very soon on bug 15522 regardless
17:43 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, ASSIGNED , New interface for revamped circulation rules
17:43 oleonard pianohacker: I'm thinking I'll submit a patch with a yarn/npm/gulp setup tailored just to my SCSS work, and then we'll race to see gets theirs in
17:44 pianohacker lol, perfect plan
17:44 * oleonard adds a competing .gitignore as well
17:46 oleonard pianohacker have you looked at khall's bower patch?
17:46 oleonard Bug 17241
17:46 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17241 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Start using Bower for installing and managing Koha's JavaScript Dependencies
17:48 pianohacker oh... goodness, that's been poked at recently
17:48 pianohacker no, I hadn't looked at it much
17:49 oleonard I haven't looked at it in detail, but I'm curious what bearing it has on our yarn/gulp work.
17:49 pianohacker it would be in pretty direct opposition to it :)
17:50 pianohacker unless it were specifically for managing the old-new-school requirejs stuff the catalog editor use
17:50 pianohacker *uses
17:50 oleonard It does specifically address the advanced editor
17:52 pianohacker now, I think it would be possible to have bower run specifically to manage our older JS dependencies... that would be pretty great, actually
17:52 pianohacker I'm just not sure whether it works better than yarn for that purpose
18:11 oleonard pianohacker: In your 15522 branch, does 'yarn build' replace running a gulp task?
18:13 pianohacker oleonard: yes, though it's just a convenience alias so you don't have to install gulp globally
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18:14 oleonard pianohacker: Does yarn just run the default gulp task? If I want to run a specific gulp task I should install gulp globally?
18:15 pianohacker it's actually pretty flexible; you can yarn run anything specified under "scripts" in package.json, and I _think_ that if it's not a built-in yarn command, you can do, for instance, yarn watch instead of yarn run build
18:16 pianohacker *yarn run watch
18:16 oleonard Okay, cool.
18:21 oleonard pianohacker: Should yarn.lock be gitignored?
18:22 pianohacker I've been wondering about that; I think it should be checked in, if I'm understanding it right. That way, anyone who does a yarn install will get _exactly_ the same versions of the packages, and all updates are intentional
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18:28 oleonard pianohacker: How is yarn.lock generated?
18:30 pianohacker oleonard: whenever a package is installed with yarn add
18:31 oleonard So I don't have a yarn.lock file because I started by adding things to package.json by hand
18:31 oleonard By the way I see that the documentation does say to check in yarn.lock
18:37 * oleonard might as well alias 'yearn' to 'yarn' right now to save on backspacing
18:37 pianohacker now THAT would be useful in the devbox
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18:54 Joubu mtompset: Koha::Filter::MARC::ViewPolicy->_filter_field, there is this comment: "visibility is a "level" (-9 to +9), default to 0"
18:55 mtompset And?
18:55 * Joubu is trying to write the question
18:55 mtompset -9 and +9 were future expansions, I believe.
18:56 Joubu That means: if we have a record using the framework F1 with a 299$9 subfield and wants to display this record using F2 that does not have 299$9, the field will be displayed
18:56 Joubu it is not what I would expected
18:56 Joubu my problem is the default value :)
18:57 mtompset Silly people changing frameworks. :P
18:57 mtompset Why? You want a -8 default?
18:57 mtompset (hide in everything)
18:58 Joubu mtompset: actually I am working on an enhancement to use the ACQ to display bibliographic record when ordering
18:58 Joubu the ACQ framework*
18:58 Joubu and so I'd like to display only the fields defined in ACQ
18:59 mtompset Oh, I see.
19:00 mtompset Don't have code in front of me... I was in the middle of thinking about female pastors in churches. :)
19:03 mtompset Ah there... okay, so the problem is the ACQ doesn't have ->{tag}->{subtag}->{hidden} defined.
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19:06 Joubu mtompset: if the field is not defined, the subfield value will be displayed
19:06 Joubu if not exists ->{$tag}, or not exists ->{$subtab}, we should default to 8 I think
19:07 Joubu No need to care about it, I can do it. I just want to know if it makes sense to you
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19:08 mtompset Let's see... if we have more information than the framework, only show the framework stuff... OH! I know why...
19:09 mtompset Because it actually DELETES...
19:09 mtompset if you end up saving the record, you end up losing the information you didn't display.
19:09 Joubu yes, I think it is expected
19:10 mtompset Why?
19:10 mtompset Why should you lose information you didn't display?
19:11 Joubu because we want the framework to work like a filter
19:11 mtompset Perhaps you accidentally change the framework, and now the data is lost forever.
19:11 Joubu it is at least how I always undersood that
19:12 Joubu but you have backup, so you are safe :D
19:12 mtompset You know people will do stupid things, and then complain Koha sucks.
19:12 Joubu ok, will have to think about that then. But I am pretty sure that if you save a record on cataloguing, the fields that are not displayed are removed from the record
19:13 mtompset -- they weren't when we still had MARCXML. ;)
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19:14 Joubu when we had biblioitems.marcxml?
19:15 pianohacker Joubu: losing fields due to being missing from the framework was a large complaint from several catalogers; it's why the advanced editor still displays unknown fields
19:17 mtompset Sorry for the slow reply: yes. Back in the long gone days of bibilioitems.marcxml. :)
19:18 mtompset I think tweaking the filter to have a configurable "default" value would be better.
19:21 Joubu yes, that is what I am going to do.
19:27 mtompset Good... $self->{options}->{default_visibility} = 8; :)
19:30 pianohacker mtompset/Joubu: just to check, this isn't like the frameworks' hidden setting, where it's a bizarre inflection of a boolean bitfield, right?
19:36 mtompset read the nasty long comment with -9 through +9 in the ViewPolicy file.
19:37 mtompset tag, subtag, hidden returns a 1, 0, or undef in the case of undefined hash of hashiness.
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20:05 eythian @tell oleopard[…]ard-lion-taxonomy
20:05 huginn` eythian: Error: I haven't seen oleopard, I'll let you do the telling.
20:05 eythian @tell oleonard[…]ard-lion-taxonomy
20:05 huginn` eythian: Error: I haven't seen oleonard, I'll let you do the telling.
20:05 pianohacker hahahahaha!
20:05 eythian Wat
20:06 pianohacker eythian: ?
20:06 eythian @later tell oleonard[…]ard-lion-taxonomy
20:06 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded.
20:07 eythian huginn`: that is a very misleading error
20:07 huginn` eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
20:08 pianohacker oleopard is <reply>
20:08 pianohacker oleopard?
20:08 pianohacker aww, wahanui?
20:08 pianohacker oh well
20:09 eythian Heh
20:09 eythian @later tell wizzyrea I think wahanui needs CPR
20:09 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded.
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21:32 mtompset keyboard is <reply>oleopard!
21:32 mtompset keyboard?
21:37 eythian Wahanui is in a coma
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21:38 mtompset Oh Lord, God of chatbots, have mercy on the soul-less entity known as Wahanui. :)
21:39 mtompset my kohadevbox seems to be broken. :(
21:39 mtompset Looks like time for a destroy and up.
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21:44 eythian I presume it's whatever the cylons we're into that is the god of wahanui. Though I forget what that was.
21:50 mtompset The cylons were monotheist, where as the colonists were into the Greek gods.
21:51 eythian That's right
21:51 wahanui no it's not.
21:51 eythian wahanui: welcome back
21:51 wahanui I was trapped in a maze of twisty, turny passages, all alike.
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21:52 * eythian wishes he had time to rewatch whole series again
21:53 mtompset I was totally frustrated when the video provider I was watching the reboot on pulled it, just before I finished the LAST episode!
21:54 eythian Ug. That's why we have Bittorrent I guess
21:54 eythian I really hate the pulling of things
21:54 mtompset I try to not go illegal on the downloads.
21:55 eythian (it may have just happened to me recently.)
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21:55 mtompset You know the whole, "Thou shalt not steal" problem. ;)
21:55 mtompset pulling as in git pull?
21:55 eythian Stealing means they no longer have it, which isn't true in this case.
21:56 eythian No, pulling as in removing things from a streaming service
21:56 eythian I was part way through watching the original Death Note on Netflix, now it's vanished
21:58 wizzycray it's pretty difficult to actually steal bits.
21:59 eythian Hoi wizzyrea
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22:00 wizzycray kia ora
22:01 eythian[…]-3d-solar-pyramid <-- wizzyrea, I feel you'll enjoy this
22:02 wizzycray awww those tree houses are top
22:03 eythian Heh top. That's what people like marcelr say.
22:03 eythian Oh but he's not here
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22:31 mtompset eythian: I'd value your input on somerthing.
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22:32 mtompset I was thinking of Failed QA'ing bug 12747. Take a look at the third splinter review the Breeding.t
22:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Needs Signoff , Add extra column in Z3950 search result
22:33 mtompset Is failure to mock the preference, not using test builder, and noise when I run the test worthy of a Failed QA? Or am I being a hard a$$?
22:34 mtompset Greetings, wizzycray. :)
22:35 mtompset eythian: Yes, I hate that kind of pulling. They do tend to cycle their materials.
22:36 mtompset Greetings, jzairo. How did the presentation with LeeJ go? Or did I misunderstand what he was talking about the other day? :)
22:37 jzairo hi mtompset it went really well!
22:37 mtompset That's good to hear. :)
22:39 cait :)
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