IRC log for #koha, 2017-05-31

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01:30 wizzyrea hi
01:41 kidclamp .me waves goodbye
01:41 * kidclamp waves goodbye
02:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev <[…]7516a915f471b298a> / Add release notes for Koha 17.05 <[…]b24631d3906a9f3fe> / Translation updates for Koha 17.05 <[…]46a1f76281f9d2cd8>
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02:59 wizzyrea confetti
02:59 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
02:59 wizzyrea it's release day!
02:59 wizzyrea more confetti!
02:59 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'​`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
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03:57 Guest924 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #186: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/186/
03:57 Guest924 * kyle: Translation updates for Koha 17.05
03:57 Guest924 * kyle: Add release notes for Koha 17.05
03:57 Guest924 * kyle: DBRev
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05:04 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
05:05 mveron And congratulations to everybody for Koha 17.05!
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05:15 josef_moravec morning #koha
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05:56 mveron Hmm, Marc Véron in release notes...
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06:32 magnuse anyone looked at TIND ILS?
06:32 magnuse yeah everybody++ for 17.05!
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06:44 reiveune hello
06:49 magnuse @later tell Joubu i was checking out on my mobile and accidentally moved something on the kanban board. not sure how to undo it? sorry for the disturbance!
06:49 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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06:59 LibraryClaire hi #koha
07:00 alex_a hello
07:00 alex_a hello LibraryClaire
07:00 LibraryClaire hi alex_a
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07:02 fridolin hie there
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08:36 eythian hi
08:38 eythian wahanui: I said hi
08:38 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you...
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09:46 * magnuse tells wahanui to start following eythian at all times, at a couple meters distance
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10:07 evantill hi all
10:07 evantill few weeks ago I have installed a koha on docker in "production" for an association
10:08 evantill we have a mariaddb on a separate container
10:08 evantill the db refuse to restart
10:09 evantill
10:09 evantill mysqld: Out of memory (Needed 128663552 bytes)
10:10 evantill around 128Mo
10:10 evantill InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 256.0M
10:10 evantill InnoDB: Cannot allocate memory for the buffer pool
10:11 evantill my question is about this memory pool
10:11 evantill have you any advise. on increasing it ?
10:15 evantill
10:15 evantill this is the memory usage
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11:26 oleonard Hi all
11:31 magnuse hiya oleonard
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11:48 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
11:48 wahanui hi olé onard
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11:48 oleonard Hi LibraryClaire and magnuse
11:52 evantill hi
11:53 * oleonard thinks suspended holds shouldn't count against your hold limit
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12:02 marcelr hi #koha
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12:16 kidclamp_away hi marcelr
12:16 marcelr o/
12:17 kidclamp sounds like new math oleonard
12:18 oleonard kidclamp: You can stay after class and clean the erasers.
12:18 marcelr jajm++ # bug 17717
12:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17717 critical, P4, ---, chris, Signed Off , Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/
12:19 * kidclamp kicks the dirt. Pfft, teachers always coming down on me
12:27 jajm marcelr, it seems it also work with perl 5.22 ...
12:27 marcelr oops
12:27 marcelr gets weirder..
12:28 jajm well the message is not sent, but that's because of MTA bad configuration (message_queue.status is changed to 'failed')
12:29 marcelr do we ever need CAS btw when running message queue ;)
12:30 jajm i don't want to go into that right now :)
12:31 Joubu hi #koha
12:34 jajm hi Joubu
12:34 LibraryClaire hi Joubu
12:36 marcelr hi Joubu and LibraryClaire
12:36 LibraryClaire hi marcelr
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12:37 marcelr jajm: simplify the problem :) create a wrong module and look what perl 5.22/24 does
12:38 jajm marcelr, that's what i tried first :)
12:38 marcelr ok
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12:55 tcohen morning!
12:55 marcelr hola tcohen
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13:09 tcohen jajm: have you seen this conversation?
13:10 jajm tcohen, yes
13:11 tcohen ok
13:11 tcohen :-D
13:11 jajm tcohen, this was solved by fixing PERL5LIB, that's why I wonder why we should fix this by 'cd /tmp'
13:12 tcohen i didn't understand that from your message on bz
13:12 tcohen let me process it
13:14 tcohen ok
13:14 tcohen so you're saying the bug description should be changed to 'PERL5LIB incorrectly set for koha-shell/koha-foreach, etc'
13:15 jajm tcohen, i really don't know :)
13:15 jajm i'm just trying to understand where the problem comes from
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13:18 tcohen ahhh
13:18 tcohen koha-foreach is not calling koha-shell
13:18 tcohen but a custom way to use sudo
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13:20 magnuse tcohen: oops
13:22 tcohen jajm: have you been able to generate the conditions for the bug?
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13:26 tcohen ok
13:26 tcohen I cannot reproduce it
13:26 tcohen he
13:27 tcohen ah!
13:27 jajm tcohen, found something ? :)
13:28 tcohen koha-shell -c "perl -Mstrict -e1" kohadev
13:28 tcohen => SUCCSES
13:28 tcohen (on the /root dir)
13:28 tcohen koha-shell -c "PERL5LIB=. perl -Mstrict -e1" kohadev
13:28 tcohen => FAIL: because of PERL5LIB=.
13:29 tcohen and the same for
13:29 tcohen koha-foreach
13:29 wahanui hmmm... koha-foreach is not calling koha-shell
13:29 tcohen koha-foreach  "perl -Mstrict -e1"
13:29 tcohen => SUCCESS
13:29 tcohen koha-foreach  "PERL5LIB=. perl -Mstrict -e1"
13:29 tcohen => FAIL
13:29 tcohen so
13:29 tcohen the only difference
13:29 wahanui i heard the only difference was that where the search results say "save to lists" the lists page says "Save to another list"
13:29 tcohen the loose end I mean
13:29 tcohen is how PERL5LIB is set
13:30 tcohen in ENV in cron jobs
13:30 jajm but why PERL5LIB would be set to '.' ?
13:33 tcohen did you manage to reproduce it with the cronjob? or just manually?
13:33 jajm just manually
13:34 tcohen ok
13:34 tcohen koha-foreach shoudl be fixed by making it use koha-shell
13:34 tcohen but in the meantime
13:35 tcohen maybe this was an issue while bug 16733 and its related ones weren't all pushed
13:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Stable , More flexible paths in debian scripts (for dev installs)
13:35 tcohen if you are on the root user
13:36 tcohen sudo -s
13:36 tcohen and run
13:36 tcohen echo $PERL5LIB
13:36 tcohen you get nothing
13:36 tcohen that means the fallback is used (.)
13:36 tcohen if you then
13:36 tcohen run
13:36 tcohen . /usr/share/koha/bin/
13:36 tcohen and then
13:36 tcohen adjust_paths_dev_install kohadev
13:36 tcohen (using your instance name)
13:37 tcohen echo $PERL5LIB
13:37 tcohen => /home/vagrant/kohaclone
13:38 tcohen so
13:38 tcohen looking at the 16.11 branch
13:38 tcohen I notice that 16733 has just been backported
13:38 tcohen (included in 16.11.08)
13:38 tcohen before that
13:39 tcohen koha-foreach was faulty
13:39 tcohen because it wouldn't call adjust_paths_dev_install
13:39 tcohen and thus PERL5LIB would be picked from ENV => empty
13:40 tcohen (by the root user, which is the one running the cronjob)
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13:41 tcohen jajm: ok?
13:41 jajm tcohen, so you're telling me i've spent hours trying to reproduce a fixed bug ? :-D
13:41 tcohen the problem is koha-foreach
13:42 tcohen it's been fixed in master for a while, and since May 16th in 16.11
13:42 tcohen :-/
13:44 jajm it's good to know it's fixed
13:45 jajm could you comment on the bug ?
13:45 tcohen koha-foreach should still be fixed somehow
13:45 Joubu tcohen: can you summarize on the bug pls,
13:45 tcohen yes
13:45 tcohen I will
13:45 tcohen Joubu: it is plz
13:45 tcohen .-P
13:45 Joubu please
13:45 jajm thanks!
13:45 jajm tcohen++
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14:14 fridolin strange Bug 18706
14:14 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18706 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, NEW , subfields to delete not disabled anymore in batch item modification
14:14 fridolin JQuery is not magic ;)
14:16 tcohen fridolin: how dare you!
14:19 fridolin :)
14:19 fridolin the use of $(this).next is very dangerous
14:26 Joubu tcohen: could you open a bug report for the "must use koha-shell" part of your answer?
14:26 Joubu plzzzz
14:26 tcohen yezzzzz
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14:31 datadoctor I'm trying to understand the new way of processing objects in the Koha Virtual Shelves. What's technique on that? The object seems to hold a vast amount of information, but I only want a tiny bit of that.
14:32 oleonard What are you trying to do, datadoctor?
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14:33 datadoctor to batch replace a virtual shelf list
14:34 marcelr tcohen++
14:34 datadoctor I guess we could create a new list, and delete the old one, but it's nice to get rid of the old one in the same click, and have the same name for the list.
14:36 datadoctor what happens is that I don't want to query the database with SQL queries
14:36 fridolin stranger : Bug 18707
14:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18707 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, ASSIGNED , Background jobs post disabled inputs
14:37 datadoctor I'm expecting a typical array or hash table to appear, but in the Koha Virtual Shelf processing, I now get a data object. I'm really not familiar with what kind it is, or how to use it best.
14:37 datadoctor like the functions have been rewritten in the latest version of Koha
14:37 datadoctor instead of an array I now get an object
14:39 datadoctor I guess I could read more about object-oriented programming...[…]ented_programming
14:43 datadoctor I think it's these methods that are contained in the object that are confusing me. Can I call on those to return the data that I want?
14:44 datadoctor I'm used to calling a function from one of the Perl modules.
14:44 fridolin and last but not least : Bug 18710
14:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18710 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, NEW , Wrong subfield modified in batch item modification
14:45 fridolin Joubu: hie RM, seen you have released 17.05.00 for me
14:45 fridolin I have to recreate my RMaint env and im ready
14:46 datadoctor But I want to write a new function, remove and replace. I had one working in Koha, but it stopped working in the current stable release.
14:48 Joubu fridolin: hum? I did not release anything
14:49 marcelr Joubu: start pushing !
14:49 fridolin[…]fs/tags/v17.05.00
14:49 fridolin ah its kyle
14:50 fridolin i bet you start now
14:50 Joubu marcelr: can I push all my refactoring patches that are in NSO/NQA?
14:50 marcelr that would be so cool :)
14:51 Joubu marcelr: bug 17829 is one to have
14:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17829 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move GetMember to Koha::Patron
14:52 Joubu if you are willing to QA it
14:52 marcelr bug 17829
14:52 wahanui somebody said bug 17829 was one to have
14:52 marcelr where is huginn when you need him
14:52 Joubu we will be able to remove all the vars passed to the template, and just send the Koha::Patron object
14:53 Joubu marcelr: it just displays it before ;)
14:53 marcelr see quite some dependencies
14:53 Joubu just a few :p
14:53 marcelr can you still look at the lists bug btw ?
14:53 marcelr still in SO
14:53 marcelr postponed
14:54 Joubu yes
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14:57 marcelr have to go; bye #koha
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15:12 tcohen khall++ # 17.05!
15:18 Joubu khall++ !
15:18 Joubu khall++ !
15:18 Joubu khall++ !
15:18 Joubu 3 releases in a row :)
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15:52 Katie_CPL Hello all, quick question (I think): If the item record in Koha contains the 942 field information, do we need to add a 942 field to our bib record as well? Or is this redundant?
15:52 oleonard You do in order for hold limits by itemtype to work
15:53 oleonard This is not ideal, but it is how it currently works.
15:55 Katie_CPL Aha! I wondered if it might have something to do with something like that. Is that the only reason? We don't use hold limits at the moment but may down the road.
15:57 oleonard I think that is the only reason. Unless it's also required for item type facets in search results? I can't remember.
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16:01 Katie_CPL Thanks for the info, oleonard.
16:11 reiveune bye
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16:23 oleonard Is there a way to get Template Toolkit to chomp all whitespace, not just newlines?
16:27 Joubu oleonard: [%~ var or statement~%] should do the work
16:29 oleonard Thanks Joubu! I didn't see that in the documentation
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16:29 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:30 mtompset @seen Joubu
16:30 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 minutes and 21 seconds ago: <Joubu> oleonard: [%~ var or statement~%] should do the work
16:31 mtompset The kaban thing is confusing to me. And I thought the jira issue board was a pain for work. :)
16:32 Joubu mtompset: it's expected, new things are always confusing
16:32 Joubu mtompset: Did you read the about page?
16:32 mtompset Where is the about page?!
16:32 Joubu how did you land on the kanban?
16:33 mtompset I followed your email link.,
16:33 Joubu if it is from the what's on email I just sent, there is a link to the about page
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16:34 mtompset second link.
16:34 Joubu if it is from the invit, you should arrive on the kanban with a README red card in the top left
16:34 Joubu which points to the wiki
16:34 mtompset okay found the about page.
16:35 mtompset So... why should I watch this and not just bugzilla? That's another confusing thing to me.
16:35 Joubu read the about page?
16:36 mtompset Yes, but I don't see the answer in my skim of it.
16:37 mtompset Couldn't assigning of tasks happen on bugzilla?
16:37 Joubu You find the link and read the page in less than a minute :)
16:39 Joubu mtompset: if you are willing to spend 10min to read the about page, try to understand the tool, read the wikipedia kanban page (if it is something new for you) and you have questions, I will be more than happy to answer
16:39 Joubu and update the about page to clear things
16:44 mtompset So bugzilla will no longer be used?
16:45 oleonard Of course it will mtompset
16:48 mtompset Oh, there's a back link...
16:48 mtompset I think I'll go look at some of these in that pretty graph.
16:48 * mtompset wanders off.
16:48 mtompset Have a great day, #koha oleonard Joubu
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18:22 mveron-away Good evening / daytime #koha
18:23 mveron-away Good evening / daytime #koha
18:23 oleonard Hi mveron
18:23 mveron Hi oleonard
18:23 wahanui hi oleopard
18:28 kidclamp oleopard++
18:29 oleonard kidclamp: Was that for my fur marked with rosettes similar to those of the jaguar?
18:30 oleonard Or for my well-camouflaged fur, opportunistic hunting behaviour, broad diet, and strength?
18:39 mveron Who takes care for the release notes for 17.05 on the community website? - There are two é instead of é
18:43 Joubu mveron: seems like it has been published by bag
18:44 Joubu @later tell khall sounds like you should push the 17.05 changes to the release-tools repo?
18:44 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:44 mveron Thanks, Joubu
18:47 mveron @later tell bag In the release notes for 17.05 there are two é instead of é, is it possible to fix it? My name appears in 3 versions :-)
18:47 huginn mveron: The operation succeeded.
18:53 kidclamp oleonard, for having a nice purr
18:54 oleonard Careful kidclamp,  although usually slightly smaller than humans, an adult leopard is much more powerful and easily capable of killing them.
18:57 kidclamp I would clamp with my clamps
18:57 kidclamp I am just a kid clamp too, my powers will only grow
18:57 * oleonard flees the clamps
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19:29 bag yes yes mveron - always :)
19:29 bag we’ll see if we can fix that up
19:47 kidclamp CrispyBran++
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21:14 cait @later tell khall we should fix release notes - article requests is not a new feature - reused bug number for a follow up causes it to show up as a new feature, but was new last relase!
21:14 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
21:15 cait @later tell khall congrats on the release :)
21:15 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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21:36 wizzyrea hi
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