Time  Nick          Message
21:36 wizzyrea      hi
21:15 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
21:15 cait          @later tell khall congrats on the release :)
21:14 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
21:14 cait          @later tell khall we should fix release notes - article requests is not a new feature - reused bug number for a follow up causes it to show up as a new feature, but was new last relase!
19:47 kidclamp      CrispyBran++
19:29 bag           we’ll see if we can fix that up
19:29 bag           yes yes mveron - always :)
18:57 * oleonard    flees the clamps
18:57 kidclamp      I am just a kid clamp too, my powers will only grow
18:57 kidclamp      I would clamp with my clamps
18:54 oleonard      Careful kidclamp,  although usually slightly smaller than humans, an adult leopard is much more powerful and easily capable of killing them.
18:53 kidclamp      oleonard, for having a nice purr
18:47 huginn        mveron: The operation succeeded.
18:47 mveron        @later tell bag In the release notes for 17.05 there are two é instead of é, is it possible to fix it? My name appears in 3 versions :-)
18:44 mveron        Thanks, Joubu
18:44 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:44 Joubu         @later tell khall sounds like you should push the 17.05 changes to the release-tools repo?
18:43 Joubu         mveron: seems like it has been published by bag
18:39 mveron        Who takes care for the release notes for 17.05 on the community website? - There are two é instead of é
18:30 oleonard      Or for my well-camouflaged fur, opportunistic hunting behaviour, broad diet, and strength?
18:29 oleonard      kidclamp: Was that for my fur marked with rosettes similar to those of the jaguar?
18:28 kidclamp      oleopard++
18:23 wahanui       hi oleopard
18:23 mveron        Hi oleonard
18:23 oleonard      Hi mveron
18:23 mveron-away   Good evening / daytime #koha
18:22 mveron-away   Good evening / daytime #koha
16:48 mtompset      Have a great day, #koha oleonard Joubu
16:48 * mtompset    wanders off.
16:48 mtompset      I think I'll go look at some of these in that pretty graph.
16:48 mtompset      Oh, there's a back link...
16:45 oleonard      Of course it will mtompset
16:44 mtompset      So bugzilla will no longer be used?
16:39 Joubu         and update the about page to clear things
16:39 Joubu         mtompset: if you are willing to spend 10min to read the about page, try to understand the tool, read the wikipedia kanban page (if it is something new for you) and you have questions, I will be more than happy to answer
16:37 Joubu         You find the link and read the page in less than a minute :)
16:37 mtompset      Couldn't assigning of tasks happen on bugzilla?
16:36 mtompset      Yes, but I don't see the answer in my skim of it.
16:35 Joubu         read the about page?
16:35 mtompset      So... why should I watch this and not just bugzilla? That's another confusing thing to me.
16:34 mtompset      okay found the about page.
16:34 Joubu         which points to the wiki
16:34 Joubu         if it is from the invit, you should arrive on the kanban with a README red card in the top left
16:34 mtompset      second link.
16:33 Joubu         if it is from the what's on email I just sent, there is a link to the about page
16:33 mtompset      I followed your email link.,
16:32 Joubu         how did you land on the kanban?
16:32 mtompset      Where is the about page?!
16:32 Joubu         mtompset: Did you read the about page?
16:32 Joubu         mtompset: it's expected, new things are always confusing
16:31 mtompset      The kaban thing is confusing to me. And I thought the jira issue board was a pain for work. :)
16:30 huginn        mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 minutes and 21 seconds ago: <Joubu> oleonard: [%~ var or statement~%] should do the work
16:30 mtompset      @seen Joubu
16:29 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
16:29 oleonard      Thanks Joubu! I didn't see that in the documentation
16:27 Joubu         oleonard: [%~ var or statement~%] should do the work
16:23 oleonard      Is there a way to get Template Toolkit to chomp all whitespace, not just newlines?
16:11 reiveune      bye
16:01 Katie_CPL     Thanks for the info, oleonard.
15:57 oleonard      I think that is the only reason. Unless it's also required for item type facets in search results? I can't remember.
15:55 Katie_CPL     Aha! I wondered if it might have something to do with something like that. Is that the only reason? We don't use hold limits at the moment but may down the road.
15:53 oleonard      This is not ideal, but it is how it currently works.
15:52 oleonard      You do in order for hold limits by itemtype to work
15:52 Katie_CPL     Hello all, quick question (I think): If the item record in Koha contains the 942 field information, do we need to add a 942 field to our bib record as well? Or is this redundant?
15:18 Joubu         3 releases in a row :)
15:18 Joubu         khall++ !
15:18 Joubu         khall++ !
15:18 Joubu         khall++ !
15:12 tcohen        khall++ # 17.05!
14:57 marcelr       have to go; bye #koha
14:54 Joubu         yes
14:53 marcelr       postponed
14:53 marcelr       still in SO
14:53 marcelr       can you still look at the lists bug btw ?
14:53 Joubu         just a few :p
14:53 marcelr       see quite some dependencies
14:53 Joubu         marcelr: it just displays it before ;)
14:52 Joubu         we will be able to remove all the vars passed to the template, and just send the Koha::Patron object
14:52 marcelr       where is huginn when you need him
14:52 wahanui       somebody said bug 17829 was one to have
14:52 marcelr       bug 17829
14:52 Joubu         if you are willing to QA it
14:51 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17829 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move GetMember to Koha::Patron
14:51 Joubu         marcelr: bug 17829 is one to have
14:50 marcelr       that would be so cool :)
14:50 Joubu         marcelr: can I push all my refactoring patches that are in NSO/NQA?
14:50 fridolin      i bet you start now
14:49 fridolin      ah its kyle
14:49 fridolin      http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tag;h=refs/tags/v17.05.00
14:49 marcelr       Joubu: start pushing !
14:48 Joubu         fridolin: hum? I did not release anything
14:46 datadoctor    But I want to write a new function, remove and replace. I had one working in Koha 3.16.04.000, but it stopped working in the current stable release.
14:45 fridolin      I have to recreate my RMaint env and im ready
14:45 fridolin      Joubu: hie RM, seen you have released 17.05.00 for me
14:44 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18710 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, NEW , Wrong subfield modified in batch item modification
14:44 fridolin      and last but not least : Bug 18710
14:44 datadoctor    I'm used to calling a function from one of the Perl modules.
14:43 datadoctor    I think it's these methods that are contained in the object that are confusing me. Can I call on those to return the data that I want?
14:39 datadoctor    I guess I could read more about object-oriented programming...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming
14:37 datadoctor    instead of an array I now get an object
14:37 datadoctor    like the functions have been rewritten in the latest version of Koha
14:37 datadoctor    I'm expecting a typical array or hash table to appear, but in the Koha Virtual Shelf processing, I now get a data object. I'm really not familiar with what kind it is, or how to use it best.
14:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18707 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, ASSIGNED , Background jobs post disabled inputs
14:36 fridolin      stranger : Bug 18707
14:36 datadoctor    what happens is that I don't want to query the database with SQL queries
14:34 datadoctor    I guess we could create a new list, and delete the old one, but it's nice to get rid of the old one in the same click, and have the same name for the list.
14:34 marcelr       tcohen++
14:33 datadoctor    to batch replace a virtual shelf list
14:32 oleonard      What are you trying to do, datadoctor?
14:31 datadoctor    I'm trying to understand the new way of processing objects in the Koha Virtual Shelves. What's technique on that? The object seems to hold a vast amount of information, but I only want a tiny bit of that.
14:26 tcohen        yezzzzz
14:26 Joubu         plzzzz
14:26 Joubu         tcohen: could you open a bug report for the "must use koha-shell" part of your answer?
14:19 fridolin      the use of $(this).next is very dangerous
14:19 fridolin      :)
14:16 tcohen        fridolin: how dare you!
14:14 fridolin      JQuery is not magic ;)
14:14 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18706 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, NEW , subfields to delete not disabled anymore in batch item modification
14:14 fridolin      strange Bug 18706
13:45 jajm          tcohen++
13:45 jajm          thanks!
13:45 Joubu         please
13:45 tcohen        .-P
13:45 tcohen        Joubu: it is plz
13:45 tcohen        I will
13:45 tcohen        yes
13:45 Joubu         tcohen: can you summarize on the bug pls,
13:45 tcohen        koha-foreach should still be fixed somehow
13:45 jajm          could you comment on the bug ?
13:44 jajm          it's good to know it's fixed
13:42 tcohen        :-/
13:42 tcohen        it's been fixed in master for a while, and since May 16th in 16.11
13:41 tcohen        the problem is koha-foreach
13:41 jajm          tcohen, so you're telling me i've spent hours trying to reproduce a fixed bug ? :-D
13:41 tcohen        jajm: ok?
13:40 tcohen        (by the root user, which is the one running the cronjob)
13:39 tcohen        and thus PERL5LIB would be picked from ENV => empty
13:39 tcohen        because it wouldn't call adjust_paths_dev_install
13:39 tcohen        koha-foreach was faulty
13:38 tcohen        before that
13:38 tcohen        (included in 16.11.08)
13:38 tcohen        I notice that 16733 has just been backported
13:38 tcohen        looking at the 16.11 branch
13:38 tcohen        so
13:37 tcohen        => /home/vagrant/kohaclone
13:37 tcohen        echo $PERL5LIB
13:36 tcohen        (using your instance name)
13:36 tcohen        adjust_paths_dev_install kohadev
13:36 tcohen        and then
13:36 tcohen        . /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-functions.sh
13:36 tcohen        run
13:36 tcohen        if you then
13:36 tcohen        that means the fallback is used (.)
13:36 tcohen        you get nothing
13:36 tcohen        echo $PERL5LIB
13:36 tcohen        and run
13:36 tcohen        sudo -s
13:35 tcohen        if you are on the root user
13:35 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , More flexible paths in debian scripts (for dev installs)
13:35 tcohen        maybe this was an issue while bug 16733 and its related ones weren't all pushed
13:34 tcohen        but in the meantime
13:34 tcohen        koha-foreach shoudl be fixed by making it use koha-shell
13:34 tcohen        ok
13:33 jajm          just manually
13:33 tcohen        did you manage to reproduce it with the cronjob? or just manually?
13:30 jajm          but why PERL5LIB would be set to '.' ?
13:30 tcohen        in ENV in cron jobs
13:29 tcohen        is how PERL5LIB is set
13:29 tcohen        the loose end I mean
13:29 wahanui       i heard the only difference was that where the search results say "save to lists" the lists page says "Save to another list"
13:29 tcohen        the only difference
13:29 tcohen        so
13:29 tcohen        => FAIL
13:29 tcohen        koha-foreach  "PERL5LIB=. perl -Mstrict -e1"
13:29 tcohen        => SUCCESS
13:29 tcohen        koha-foreach  "perl -Mstrict -e1"
13:29 wahanui       hmmm... koha-foreach is not calling koha-shell
13:29 tcohen        koha-foreach
13:29 tcohen        and the same for
13:28 tcohen        => FAIL: because of PERL5LIB=.
13:28 tcohen        koha-shell -c "PERL5LIB=. perl -Mstrict -e1" kohadev
13:28 tcohen        (on the /root dir)
13:28 tcohen        => SUCCSES
13:28 tcohen        koha-shell -c "perl -Mstrict -e1" kohadev
13:27 jajm          tcohen, found something ? :)
13:27 tcohen        ah!
13:26 tcohen        he
13:26 tcohen        I cannot reproduce it
13:26 tcohen        ok
13:22 tcohen        jajm: have you been able to generate the conditions for the bug?
13:20 magnuse       tcohen: oops
13:18 tcohen        but a custom way to use sudo
13:18 tcohen        koha-foreach is not calling koha-shell
13:18 tcohen        ahhh
13:15 jajm          i'm just trying to understand where the problem comes from
13:15 jajm          tcohen, i really don't know :)
13:14 tcohen        so you're saying the bug description should be changed to 'PERL5LIB incorrectly set for koha-shell/koha-foreach, etc'
13:14 tcohen        ok
13:12 tcohen        let me process it
13:12 tcohen        i didn't understand that from your message on bz
13:11 jajm          tcohen, this was solved by fixing PERL5LIB, that's why I wonder why we should fix this by 'cd /tmp'
13:11 tcohen        :-D
13:11 tcohen        ok
13:10 jajm          tcohen, yes
13:09 tcohen        jajm: have you seen this conversation? http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1127880
12:55 marcelr       hola tcohen
12:55 tcohen        morning!
12:38 marcelr       ok
12:38 jajm          marcelr, that's what i tried first :)
12:37 marcelr       jajm: simplify the problem :) create a wrong module and look what perl 5.22/24 does
12:36 LibraryClaire hi marcelr
12:36 marcelr       hi Joubu and LibraryClaire
12:34 LibraryClaire hi Joubu
12:34 jajm          hi Joubu
12:31 Joubu         hi #koha
12:30 jajm          i don't want to go into that right now :)
12:29 marcelr       do we ever need CAS btw when running message queue ;)
12:28 jajm          well the message is not sent, but that's because of MTA bad configuration (message_queue.status is changed to 'failed')
12:27 marcelr       gets weirder..
12:27 marcelr       oops
12:27 jajm          marcelr, it seems it also work with perl 5.22 ...
12:19 * kidclamp    kicks the dirt. Pfft, teachers always coming down on me
12:18 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17717 critical, P4, ---, chris, Signed Off , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm
12:18 marcelr       jajm++ # bug 17717
12:18 oleonard      kidclamp: You can stay after class and clean the erasers.
12:17 kidclamp      sounds like new math oleonard
12:16 marcelr       o/
12:16 kidclamp_away hi marcelr
12:02 marcelr       hi #koha
11:53 * oleonard    thinks suspended holds shouldn't count against your hold limit
11:52 evantill      hi
11:48 oleonard      Hi LibraryClaire and magnuse
11:48 wahanui       hi olé onard
11:48 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
11:31 magnuse       hiya oleonard
11:26 oleonard      Hi all
10:15 evantill      this is the memory usage
10:15 evantill      http://imgur.com/a/oBbUp
10:11 evantill      have you any advise. on increasing it ?
10:11 evantill      my question is about this memory pool
10:10 evantill      InnoDB: Cannot allocate memory for the buffer pool
10:10 evantill      InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 256.0M
10:10 evantill      around 128Mo
10:09 evantill      mysqld: Out of memory (Needed 128663552 bytes)
10:09 evantill      https://pastebin.com/ULy6th80
10:08 evantill      the db refuse to restart
10:08 evantill      we have a mariaddb on a separate container
10:07 evantill      few weeks ago I have installed a koha on docker in "production" for an association
10:07 evantill      hi all
09:46 * magnuse     tells wahanui to start following eythian at all times, at a couple meters distance
08:38 wahanui       eythian: i'm not following you...
08:38 eythian       wahanui: I said hi
08:36 eythian       hi
07:02 fridolin      hie there
07:00 LibraryClaire hi alex_a
07:00 alex_a        hello LibraryClaire
07:00 alex_a        hello
06:59 LibraryClaire hi #koha
06:49 huginn        magnuse: The operation succeeded.
06:49 magnuse       @later tell Joubu i was checking out taiga.io on my mobile and accidentally moved something on the kanban board. not sure how to undo it? sorry for the disturbance!
06:44 reiveune      hello
06:32 magnuse       yeah everybody++ for 17.05!
06:32 magnuse       anyone looked at TIND ILS? http://info.tind.io/ILS
05:56 mveron        Hmm, Marc Véron in release notes...
05:15 josef_moravec morning #koha
05:05 mveron        And congratulations to everybody for Koha 17.05!
05:04 mveron        Good morning / daytime #koha
03:57 Guest924      * kyle: DBRev 17.05.00.000
03:57 Guest924      * kyle: Add release notes for Koha 17.05
03:57 Guest924      * kyle: Translation updates for Koha 17.05
03:57 Guest924      Project Koha_Master_D8 build #186: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/186/
02:59 wahanui       o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
02:59 wizzyrea      more confetti!
02:59 wizzyrea      it's release day!
02:59 wahanui       o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
02:59 wizzyrea      confetti
02:04 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev 17.05.00.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d94ff751379c9922ce5e197516a915f471b298a> / Add release notes for Koha 17.05 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0aeec57eba5077c56830734b24631d3906a9f3fe> / Translation updates for Koha 17.05 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee1223228329ee296d42e6646a1f76281f9d2cd8>
01:41 * kidclamp    waves goodbye
01:41 kidclamp      .me waves goodbye
01:30 wizzyrea      hi