IRC log for #koha, 2017-05-01

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04:30 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
04:30 wizzyrea oh my gosh is it that time already !
04:35 mveron 6:34 in the morning here...
04:35 wizzyrea 16:35 here :)
04:35 mveron tea time?
04:35 wizzyrea not quite, but nearly
04:36 mveron coffee time here...
04:38 mveron wizzyrea: Did you see my bug 18515 ?  Would be somthing for tea time...  :-)
04:38 huginn_ Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18515 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use news based help system for OPAC
04:39 mveron No, I mean bug 18483
04:39 huginn_ Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18483 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Customised help: Enhance staff client with news based, easily editable help system
04:39 wizzyrea I like the idea of that
04:40 wizzyrea me personally I'd ditch the file based one entirely
04:40 wizzyrea that bird has flown
04:42 wizzyrea if I get a chance, I'll have a look at that :)
04:42 mveron Great!
04:42 mveron The file based can be turned off by system preference, btw
04:43 wizzyrea yeah I saw that, I just don't see the point of keeping it really
04:43 wizzyrea but that's ok :)
04:44 wizzyrea that is, it's ok to keep it
04:44 wizzyrea I just think it was always kinda a badly implemented thing and really we ought to get rid of it is all
04:45 mveron Agreed.. Maybe the file based can be dropped later...
04:56 mveron ...but we could keep the help files because they are translated - and then use them for Bug 18516
04:56 huginn_ Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add possibility to import text from file based help system as news based help system item
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06:25 mveron Coffee time again...
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08:43 marcelr hi #koha
08:49 eythian hi marcelr
08:50 marcelr morge
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08:56 * andreashm waves
08:57 andreashm marcelr: what's the status of bug 12063? Waiting for more fixes from Alex or is it set for another round of QA?
08:57 huginn_ Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays
08:58 marcelr andreashm: i will look at it this week; but this was until now quite an iterating experience..
08:58 andreashm =)
08:58 andreashm would be great if you can look at it!
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09:02 * andreashm is hoping it will find it's way into master soon. Every holidy we have problems with books waiting on the holds shelves.
09:03 andreashm *fingers crossed*
09:18 eythian marcelr: put your 'n's back on words. It's untidy just dropping them all over the place.
09:20 * magnuse thinks marcelr meant Norge
09:34 marcelr eythian: it is a shame
09:34 marcelr hi magnuse
09:34 wahanui kamelåså
09:34 magnuse \o/
09:34 * magnuse is not really here
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09:49 magnuse cait is probably not really here either?
09:49 cait still waking up
09:50 cait it's a holiday here today :)
09:51 eythian[…]5yEt3WzGo#t=2m20s <-- cait, are you out visiting gleisschotterbettungsreinigungsmaschinen perhaps?
09:51 cait ah not today
09:52 magnuse holiday here too, trying to get a little bit done on the ill though
09:54 cait :)
09:54 cait what are you working on?
09:55 magnuse CancelRequestItem
09:55 cait ILL?
09:55 wahanui well, ILL is Inter-Library Loan
09:55 eythian[…]l/cijfers2904.jpg <-- handy holiday calendar thing (except bevrijdingsdag is a holiday here once every 5 years for some bizzarroland reason.)
10:02 magnuse every 5 years?!?
10:03 marcelr bizzarroland? ik blijf leruh
10:03 magnuse cait: yeah, ILL (NCIP)
10:04 * cait now knows everything about Gleisbettungsreinigungsmaschinen
10:19 magnuse but what about Gleis*schotter*bettungsreinigungsmaschinen?
10:33 cait i watced the video robin shared :)
10:34 cait they clean the stones under the rails with a really long train
10:35 * eythian does not play scrabble in German
10:40 eythian[…]ere-hold-my-beer/ <-- everything is terrible
10:50 eythian[…]edag-vieren-op-30 <-- marcelr
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10:58 marcelr those poor tourists walking thru the city in orange on 30th
10:59 eythian marcelr: yeah, apparently there were a few vergistoeristen floating around.
10:59 marcelr new word: vergistoerist !
11:00 eythian It'll be in VanDale next edition, I'm sure.
11:00 marcelr vergistoerismeindustrieterrein
11:01 eythian that's when you have tourists accidentally cleaning the stones under the rails, right?
11:01 marcelr these are certainly vergistoeristen
11:32 eythian @later tell drojf good support for your letsencrypt work:[…]e-connection.html
11:32 huginn_ eythian: The operation succeeded.
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12:06 * kidclamp waves
12:06 marcelr hi kidclamp
12:07 kidclamp hi marcelr
12:07 marcelr kidclamp: i adjusted the guidelines for the approved two perl rules
12:07 kidclamp thanks! and thanks for adding to agenda
12:07 marcelr and added a simple example for exceptions
12:08 marcelr hope to be there again at 13utc at least
12:10 kidclamp that's why we have two :-)
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12:13 * oleonard isn't really here
12:14 eythian HI THERE OLEOPARD
12:14 * marcelr is not really waving to oleonard
12:15 marcelr oleopard++
12:16 oleonard Think of me as I sit for the next 8 hours in meetings.
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12:39 cait hm... looks like i was disconnected.. huh
12:39 marcelr hi cait
12:39 cait hi marcelr
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12:43 cait hm
12:43 cait (leave blank for auto calc during registration):
12:43 cait for cardnumber
12:43 cait but then i can't save without entering one?
12:43 cait #fail
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12:48 eythian cait: aren't you on holiday?
12:48 cait yes?
12:49 eythian I feel like you're doing a bad job of being on holiday.
12:49 cait by having some fun with Koha sign offs for the first time in ages? don't tihnk so :)
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13:05 mveron-away Hi again #koha
13:06 marcelr hi mveron-away
13:07 mveron Daag marcelr
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15:03 mveron Hmm, link to current manual does not display images, e.g. for  http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ml#globalsysprefs
15:03 mveron Is that a known issue?
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15:27 cait mveron: hm think it might, the manual needs some work
15:27 cait you could leave rangi a message  maybe?
15:28 mveron Will do. I'm working on bug 18516 and was considering a link to current help.
15:28 huginn_ Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add possibility to import text from file based help system as news based help system item
15:29 mveron current manual...
15:29 mveron based on bug 18483
15:29 huginn_ Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18483 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Customised help: Enhance staff client with news based, easily editable help system
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17:44 mveron rangi: around?
17:45 mveron @ later tell rangi Link to current manual does not display images, e.g. for  http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ml#globalsysprefs  - Is that a known issue?
17:45 huginn_ mveron: The operation succeeded.
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18:46 tmcmahon Has anyone else noticed problems with hotkeys on the intranet inteface?  Specifically on /cgi-bin/koha/circ/
18:47 tmcmahon Alt-Q goes to the Renew tab and should go to Search the catalog.  Alt-W goes ththe Search the catalog tab and it should go to Renew.
18:48 tmcmahon Koha version on Debian 8.  Package install.
18:50 tmcmahon Tried clearing browser cache, chrl-alt-R, private browser window, two test installs and the demo on the Bywater site.  All the same.
18:51 kidclamp hmm..well hitting ctrl+q and closing all browser windows doesn't help test that
18:52 kidclamp works for me in 16.11 - not sure what could be wrong tmcmahon - anything in your intranetuserjs touching those tabs?
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18:56 tmcmahon I have one for alt-c to get back to the Koha start page and make sure patron info isn't sitting on the screen.
18:56 tmcmahon Did you test it on the return page?  I haven't noticed the problem anywhere else yet.
19:14 kidclamp oh, you are right, my apologies, I was on the mainpage
19:14 kidclamp it works as you describe, you could file a bug
19:24 tmcmahon Thanks kidclamp.  I just wanted to make sure I'm not the only one before I file a bug.  It's bug 18521.
19:24 huginn_ Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18521 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Renew and search hotkeys are swapped on returns page.
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19:35 barton hey, does anyone have a workaround for the fact that keyword search treats "not" as a logical operator? Searching for the title "All the light we cannot see" returns correct results, but "All the light we can not see" returns a keyword search containing "All the light we can" which excludes "see".
19:40 cait no
19:40 cait but there is a bug for it somewhere, an old one
19:41 cait barton: the queryparser was supposed to fix that, but is not usable right now
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19:42 barton that makes sense, cait.
19:42 cait it replaced it by && || i think
19:42 cait not sure what was not
19:43 cait maybe worth checking if it works better iwth elastic
19:46 barton elastic is a good idea ... if nothing else, I think we could probably accomodate it using quoting in elastic...
19:47 barton "All the light we can not see" vs "All the light we can" NOT "see"
19:47 cait using not or and is problematic
19:47 cait also in terms of i18n
19:47 cait it's not self explanatory at all
19:48 cait i'd prefer if we'd find another way of expressing it
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19:49 barton I agree, cait.
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19:54 oleonard Meeting report: Learned out to use a fire extinguisher.
19:54 * oleonard over and out
19:56 cait :)
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20:22 mveron Good night / daytime everybody  :-)
20:24 barton @seen ashimema
20:24 huginn_ barton: ashimema was last seen in #koha 2 days, 23 hours, 40 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <ashimema> blimey.. that clubs one is HUGE
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20:37 tcohen hi
20:39 cait hi tcohen :)
20:39 tcohen happy (?) labours day
20:40 cait toyou too
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21:28 rangi @later tell mveron I have no access to that server, and[…]nstallation/html/ are the ones I work on
21:28 huginn_ rangi: The operation succeeded.
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21:44 tcohen rangi: is it about the translation server?
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21:46 rangi
21:46 rangi i think we probably should retire it, and just leave the manuals living on the main koha site
21:49 wizzyrea that will cause quite a bit of link rot :(
21:49 wizzyrea a redirect would be nice
21:50 wizzyrea gah the sphinx ones are so much nicer.
21:50 tcohen we should handle it in wordpress, yes
21:50 cait ?
21:51 tcohen the manual page
21:51 wizzyrea oh, it's not really "in" wordpress
21:51 wizzyrea kinda off to the side. :)
21:51 tcohen and the translated manuals should be published in the main site too
21:51 tcohen what I mean is that doesn't make much sense
21:52 wizzyrea naw it doesn't
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