Time Nick Message 04:30 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 04:30 wizzyrea oh my gosh is it that time already ! 04:35 mveron 6:34 in the morning here... 04:35 wizzyrea 16:35 here :) 04:35 mveron tea time? 04:35 wizzyrea not quite, but nearly 04:36 mveron coffee time here... 04:38 mveron wizzyrea: Did you see my bug 18515 ? Would be somthing for tea time... :-) 04:38 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18515 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use news based help system for OPAC 04:39 mveron No, I mean bug 18483 04:39 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18483 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Customised help: Enhance staff client with news based, easily editable help system 04:39 wizzyrea I like the idea of that 04:40 wizzyrea me personally I'd ditch the file based one entirely 04:40 wizzyrea that bird has flown 04:42 wizzyrea if I get a chance, I'll have a look at that :) 04:42 mveron Great! 04:42 mveron The file based can be turned off by system preference, btw 04:43 wizzyrea yeah I saw that, I just don't see the point of keeping it really 04:43 wizzyrea but that's ok :) 04:44 wizzyrea that is, it's ok to keep it 04:44 wizzyrea I just think it was always kinda a badly implemented thing and really we ought to get rid of it is all 04:45 mveron Agreed.. Maybe the file based can be dropped later... 04:56 mveron ...but we could keep the help files because they are translated - and then use them for Bug 18516 04:56 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add possibility to import text from file based help system as news based help system item 06:25 mveron Coffee time again... 08:43 marcelr hi #koha 08:49 eythian hi marcelr 08:50 marcelr morge 08:56 * andreashm waves 08:57 andreashm marcelr: what's the status of bug 12063? Waiting for more fixes from Alex or is it set for another round of QA? 08:57 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays 08:58 marcelr andreashm: i will look at it this week; but this was until now quite an iterating experience.. 08:58 andreashm =) 08:58 andreashm would be great if you can look at it! 09:02 * andreashm is hoping it will find it's way into master soon. Every holidy we have problems with books waiting on the holds shelves. 09:03 andreashm *fingers crossed* 09:18 eythian marcelr: put your 'n's back on words. It's untidy just dropping them all over the place. 09:20 * magnuse thinks marcelr meant Norge 09:34 marcelr eythian: it is a shame 09:34 marcelr hi magnuse 09:34 wahanui kamelåså 09:34 magnuse \o/ 09:34 * magnuse is not really here 09:49 magnuse cait is probably not really here either? 09:49 cait still waking up 09:50 cait it's a holiday here today :) 09:51 eythian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_5yEt3WzGo#t=2m20s <-- cait, are you out visiting gleisschotterbettungsreinigungsmaschinen perhaps? 09:51 cait ah not today 09:52 magnuse holiday here too, trying to get a little bit done on the ill though 09:54 cait :) 09:54 cait what are you working on? 09:55 magnuse CancelRequestItem 09:55 cait ILL? 09:55 wahanui well, ILL is Inter-Library Loan 09:55 eythian http://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/images/zoomtool/cijfers2904.jpg <-- handy holiday calendar thing (except bevrijdingsdag is a holiday here once every 5 years for some bizzarroland reason.) 10:02 magnuse every 5 years?!? 10:03 marcelr bizzarroland? ik blijf leruh 10:03 magnuse cait: yeah, ILL (NCIP) 10:04 * cait now knows everything about Gleisbettungsreinigungsmaschinen 10:19 magnuse but what about Gleis*schotter*bettungsreinigungsmaschinen? 10:33 cait i watced the video robin shared :) 10:34 cait they clean the stones under the rails with a really long train 10:35 * eythian does not play scrabble in German 10:40 eythian https://www.troyhunt.com/reckon-youve-seen-some-stupid-security-things-here-hold-my-beer/ <-- everything is terrible 10:50 eythian https://vrouw.nl/artikel/opgebiecht/43445/ik-laat-mijn-huurders-in-de-waan-dat-we-nog-koninginnedag-vieren-op-30 <-- marcelr 10:58 marcelr those poor tourists walking thru the city in orange on 30th 10:59 eythian marcelr: yeah, apparently there were a few vergistoeristen floating around. 10:59 marcelr new word: vergistoerist ! 11:00 eythian It'll be in VanDale next edition, I'm sure. 11:00 marcelr vergistoerismeindustrieterrein 11:01 eythian that's when you have tourists accidentally cleaning the stones under the rails, right? 11:01 marcelr these are certainly vergistoeristen 11:32 eythian @later tell drojf good support for your letsencrypt work: https://security.googleblog.com/2017/04/next-steps-toward-more-connection.html 11:32 huginn_ eythian: The operation succeeded. 12:06 * kidclamp waves 12:06 marcelr hi kidclamp 12:07 kidclamp hi marcelr 12:07 marcelr kidclamp: i adjusted the guidelines for the approved two perl rules 12:07 kidclamp thanks! and thanks for adding to agenda 12:07 marcelr and added a simple example for exceptions 12:08 marcelr hope to be there again at 13utc at least 12:10 kidclamp that's why we have two :-) 12:13 * oleonard isn't really here 12:14 eythian HI THERE OLEOPARD 12:14 * marcelr is not really waving to oleonard 12:15 marcelr oleopard++ 12:16 oleonard Think of me as I sit for the next 8 hours in meetings. 12:39 cait hm... looks like i was disconnected.. huh 12:39 marcelr hi cait 12:39 cait hi marcelr 12:43 cait hm 12:43 cait (leave blank for auto calc during registration): 12:43 cait for cardnumber 12:43 cait but then i can't save without entering one? 12:43 cait #fail 12:48 eythian cait: aren't you on holiday? 12:48 cait yes? 12:49 eythian I feel like you're doing a bad job of being on holiday. 12:49 cait by having some fun with Koha sign offs for the first time in ages? don't tihnk so :) 13:05 mveron-away Hi again #koha 13:06 marcelr hi mveron-away 13:07 mveron Daag marcelr 15:03 mveron Hmm, link to current manual does not display images, e.g. for http://manual.koha-community.org/current/en/administration.html#globalsysprefs 15:03 mveron Is that a known issue? 15:27 cait mveron: hm think it might, the manual needs some work 15:27 cait you could leave rangi a message maybe? 15:28 mveron Will do. I'm working on bug 18516 and was considering a link to current help. 15:28 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add possibility to import text from file based help system as news based help system item 15:29 mveron current manual... 15:29 mveron based on bug 18483 15:29 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18483 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Customised help: Enhance staff client with news based, easily editable help system 17:44 mveron rangi: around? 17:45 mveron @ later tell rangi Link to current manual does not display images, e.g. for http://manual.koha-community.org/current/en/administration.html#globalsysprefs - Is that a known issue? 17:45 huginn_ mveron: The operation succeeded. 18:46 tmcmahon Has anyone else noticed problems with hotkeys on the intranet inteface? Specifically on /cgi-bin/koha/circ/returns.pl 18:47 tmcmahon Alt-Q goes to the Renew tab and should go to Search the catalog. Alt-W goes ththe Search the catalog tab and it should go to Renew. 18:48 tmcmahon Koha version 16.11.06.000 on Debian 8. Package install. 18:50 tmcmahon Tried clearing browser cache, chrl-alt-R, private browser window, two test installs and the demo on the Bywater site. All the same. 18:51 kidclamp hmm..well hitting ctrl+q and closing all browser windows doesn't help test that 18:52 kidclamp works for me in 16.11 - not sure what could be wrong tmcmahon - anything in your intranetuserjs touching those tabs? 18:56 tmcmahon I have one for alt-c to get back to the Koha start page and make sure patron info isn't sitting on the screen. 18:56 tmcmahon Did you test it on the return page? I haven't noticed the problem anywhere else yet. 19:14 kidclamp oh, you are right, my apologies, I was on the mainpage 19:14 kidclamp it works as you describe, you could file a bug 19:24 tmcmahon Thanks kidclamp. I just wanted to make sure I'm not the only one before I file a bug. It's bug 18521. 19:24 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18521 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Renew and search hotkeys are swapped on returns page. 19:35 barton hey, does anyone have a workaround for the fact that keyword search treats "not" as a logical operator? Searching for the title "All the light we cannot see" returns correct results, but "All the light we can not see" returns a keyword search containing "All the light we can" which excludes "see". 19:40 cait no 19:40 cait but there is a bug for it somewhere, an old one 19:41 cait barton: the queryparser was supposed to fix that, but is not usable right now 19:42 barton that makes sense, cait. 19:42 cait it replaced it by && || i think 19:42 cait not sure what was not 19:43 cait maybe worth checking if it works better iwth elastic 19:46 barton elastic is a good idea ... if nothing else, I think we could probably accomodate it using quoting in elastic... 19:47 barton "All the light we can not see" vs "All the light we can" NOT "see" 19:47 cait using not or and is problematic 19:47 cait also in terms of i18n 19:47 cait it's not self explanatory at all 19:48 cait i'd prefer if we'd find another way of expressing it 19:49 barton I agree, cait. 19:54 oleonard Meeting report: Learned out to use a fire extinguisher. 19:54 * oleonard over and out 19:56 cait :) 20:22 mveron Good night / daytime everybody :-) 20:24 barton @seen ashimema 20:24 huginn_ barton: ashimema was last seen in #koha 2 days, 23 hours, 40 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <ashimema> blimey.. that clubs one is HUGE 20:37 tcohen hi 20:39 cait hi tcohen :) 20:39 tcohen happy (?) labours day 20:40 cait toyou too 21:28 rangi @later tell mveron I have no access to that server, https://koha-community.org/manual/16.11/html/ https://koha-community.org/manual/17.05/html/ and https://koha-community.org/manual/installation/html/ are the ones I work on 21:28 huginn_ rangi: The operation succeeded. 21:44 tcohen rangi: is it about the translation server? 21:46 rangi manual.koha-community.org 21:46 rangi i think we probably should retire it, and just leave the manuals living on the main koha site 21:49 wizzyrea that will cause quite a bit of link rot :( 21:49 wizzyrea a redirect would be nice 21:50 wizzyrea gah the sphinx ones are so much nicer. 21:50 tcohen we should handle it in wordpress, yes 21:50 cait ? 21:51 tcohen the manual page 21:51 wizzyrea oh, it's not really "in" wordpress 21:51 wizzyrea kinda off to the side. :) 21:51 tcohen and the translated manuals should be published in the main site too 21:51 tcohen what I mean is that manual.koha-community.org doesn't make much sense 21:52 wizzyrea naw it doesn't