IRC log for #koha, 2017-04-24

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05:04 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
05:06 mveron alexbuckley++ for signing off Bug 13835
05:06 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13835 trivial, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Popup with searches: results hidden by language menu in footer
05:09 alexbuckley no problem mveron
05:10 mveron :-)
05:12 alexbuckley I have also fixed up those sql removal bugs that wouldn't apply successfully for you: bugs 18212, 18247. And I have finished integrating the improved styling of 17942 with the onboarding tool so bug 18462 is ready for signoff
05:12 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Implemented bootstrap styling on the web installer and onboarding tool
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05:42 mveron alexbuckley: I hope I can test them this morning.
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05:56 oha o/
05:56 josef_moravec good morning #Koha ;)
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06:40 fridolin hie tehre
06:40 reiveune hello
06:40 LibraryClaire hi #koha
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06:44 alex_a bonjour
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06:45 * mveron waves
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07:41 gaetan_B hello
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08:55 ashimema @later tell khall do you still use your command line patron import tool?
08:55 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:59 nlegrand bonjour
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10:31 LEJEUNE_FLORIAN has somebody an issue with the creation of copies in the version 16.11 ?
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11:39 oleonard Hi all
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11:45 josef_moravec hi oleonard
11:45 wahanui hi olé onard
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12:07 kidclamp thanks oleonard
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12:28 edveal Happy Monday
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12:29 tcohen morning
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12:36 oleonard I like this sign from one of the Marches for Science over the weekend:[…]e-san-jose-26.jpg
12:37 eythian haha
12:41 tcohen LOL
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12:49 jcamins oleonard: heh. I like it.
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12:50 tcohen aynchronous answers
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13:32 Joubu tcohen, ashimema: could you take a look at bug 18842 please?
13:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18842 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
13:34 kidclamp joubu when you have a moment for thought take a glance at 18487?
13:34 Joubu kidclamp: dup of bug 18481?
13:34 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18481 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to pay full fine amount.
13:35 kidclamp yes
13:35 Joubu tcohen, ashimema: it is 18442?
13:35 Joubu tcohen, ashimema: it is 18442!
13:37 kidclamp and both are 17140
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13:44 oleonard Hi francharb
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13:47 francharb Hi oleonard !
13:49 oleonard francharb and Joubu, did you get to vote in the election back in your home country?
13:49 francharb nope. Haven't been able to register in time. :(
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13:52 Joubu I am not French, cannot vote
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13:53 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18409: Make the controller for holds use Koha::Holds <[…]0948b1027adc0f1c1>
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15:26 oleonard ashimema: Your Sandbox 0 OPAC seems to be broken. No CSS, no JS.
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15:49 reiveune bye
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15:53 oleonard Is there a devbox-ish way to run 'translate update' ? Or should it work correctly from koha-shell?
15:55 Joubu cd misc/translate; perl translate LANG update
15:55 Joubu if you want to be sure
15:55 Joubu but it should work with koha-translate in master (only)
15:56 Joubu if you want it in old versions, comment on bug 16733 (which blocks16749)
15:56 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, RESOLVED FIXED, More flexible paths in debian scripts (for dev installs)
15:57 oleonard Thanks Joubu
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16:00 oleonard cait?
16:00 wahanui i heard cait was the best friend you could ever have.
16:00 oleonard Sounds right wahanui
16:00 cait on a train :)
16:00 cait waht's up?
16:01 oleonard Could you check to see whether I've got correct translation advice on Bug 18367?
16:01 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18367 minor, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Fix untranslatable string from Bug 18264
16:01 cait if the page opens, i am trying :)
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16:02 cait oleonard: yours looks better
16:02 cait cheating with sentences like that is not good
16:03 cait doesn't work when your language requires a different order of words
16:03 oleonard Okay, thanks for checking. I wasn't sure if my memory of best practices was up to date.
16:03 cait you probably could also have the dievs outside
16:03 oleonard right, of course.
16:03 cait and end with one string... with both sentences, but it's a bit messier
16:04 * kidclamp is always unclear on translation stuff
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16:05 * cait encourages kidclamp to learn German :P
16:05 cait nah, that woudl be mean
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16:06 kidclamp oleonard and I should get together and work on our czech
16:06 oleonard :D
16:06 kidclamp I'll move to Prague if you will
16:06 oleonard Deal!
16:06 * oleonard packs
16:07 oleonard cait: What is mean is making the rest of the world learn English.
16:07 Joubu (be care, pints cost 1€ in Prague)
16:08 kidclamp mmm...pivo
16:10 * kidclamp_lunch realizes context is damning, is going to run, not drink
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16:32 CrispyBran tcohen: is there a way to look at previous versions of Koha in the kohadevbox?
16:33 CrispyBran Or oleonard^ ?
16:33 oleonard CrispyBran: You use git to check out a previous version
16:33 oleonard git checkout origin/3.22.x
16:34 CrispyBran Cool.  Thanks.  Do I do that from anywhere or within a branch?
16:35 oleonard You don't need to do that as part of a specific branch, but you can.
16:35 Joubu git checkout -b 3.22.x origin/3.22.x
16:35 Joubu and restart memcached + plack
16:35 oleonard restart_all
16:35 Joubu and you will certainly need to recreate the DB
16:37 CrispyBran How about if I just wanted to look something up at[…]=koha.git;a=tree?
16:38 CrispyBran Wait....I think I stumbled upon it
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16:41 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:42 mtompset @seen oleonard
16:42 huginn` mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 6 minutes and 14 seconds ago: <oleonard> restart_all
17:08 CrispyBran oleonard, do you have a moment for me to get your opinion on some workflow?
17:09 oleonard Sure CrispyBran
17:12 CrispyBran So, when you check in an item that belongs to another library, I notice that it states:"Please return item to: XYZ"  and then shows a button to print slip.  Our library always prints a slip, but apparently this confused a library that doesn't.  It appears that the transfer is set in motion upon check in, rather than having to "confirm" like you do with a hold.
17:13 CrispyBran Do you think it would be better to have the message indicate that the item is already triggered for transfer?
17:13 CrispyBran Perhaps the message should read "Transferring item to: XYZ"?
17:15 oleonard That makes sense to me. Or "Item is now in transit to XYZ"
17:15 CrispyBran And last quesion.  Since the transfer is already in motion, shouldn't the Cancel Transfer button ALWAY show?
17:15 CrispyBran It doesn't show the cancel when the transfer is first triggered.
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17:15 oleonard I think that would be useful
17:16 CrispyBran I think both changes would make it a lot more obvious.  Which message do you prefer?  Yours or mine?
17:18 oleonard I guess "transfer" is more consistent with existing terminology
17:18 CrispyBran Okay.  Thanks for the feedback.  :)
17:23 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15702: Recommended Counter-patch <[…]90d2c34242c0cbb61> / Bug 15702: Add test cases for modified code <[…]520a295c18ba70b72> / Bug 18457: Add tests <[…]0d534e4f3629590d9>
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17:35 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18452: Correcting 'url' to say 'URL' in catalog detail <[…]c20462542ae0e5397> / Bug 15815: Reword confirm message when removing patrons from card batch <[…]2e6b505500c96e0dd> / Bug 18466: article requests box outline in opac <http://git.koha-community.or
17:36 mtompset oleonard: I have an ugly, but error free HTML patch up for bug 3311.
17:36 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3311 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Statistical reports should error if row and column aren't selected
17:36 * magnuse waves from OSL
17:37 magnuse @wunder OSL
17:37 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
17:37 magnuse well, it's snowing, if anyone wanna know
17:37 mtompset I'd appreciate your feedback on the ugliness.
17:37 magnuse and the planes are delayed
17:37 mtompset magnuse: That's implossible. The Toronto Maple Leafs are out of the playoffs.
17:37 mtompset impossible.
17:37 mtompset The curse of Harold Ballard is at rest for another year.
17:38 * magnuse suspects mtompset of talking plain gibberish
17:38 magnuse did anyone ever create a programming language and name it gibberish?
17:39 mtompset[…]ramming_language)
17:40 mtompset magnuse: It's Canadian folklore, particularly amongst those who are Toronto Maple Leaf fans (a hockey team), that winter will not end until they are eliminated from the playoffs, and this curse will last until they win the Stanley Cup again.
17:40 magnuse yay
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17:41 magnuse ...for the language
17:41 magnuse and for the lore, i guess :-)
17:42 mtompset It's called the curse of Harold Ballard, because he was the team owner who had issues with a player who supposedly placed a hex on the team, because they refused to pay him some amount of money.
17:42 mtompset The hex goes that they won't win the Stanley Cup until the money is repaid.
17:45 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5
17:45 huginn` mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
17:45 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
17:45 huginn` mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
17:45 mtompset @wunder toronto
17:45 huginn` mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
17:45 mtompset @wunder toronto, ontario
17:45 huginn` mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
17:45 mtompset @wunder 90210
17:45 huginn` mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
17:46 mtompset I guess it is broken.
17:46 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
17:46 huginn` tcohen: Error: No such location could be found.
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18:19 oleonard After using the OPAC's password recovery process I can log in to the staff client with my new password but not the OPAC.
18:23 oleonard mtompset still here?
18:24 mtompset Yes. Did 3311 make you want to cry that badly?
18:24 oleonard 'label="&nbsp;"' makes me want to cry badly
18:24 oleonard I don't think it's worth it to do that just to quiet the validator's complaints
18:25 mtompset Yes, but label="" and label=" " make me want to cry badly.
18:25 mtompset I like quiet validator.
18:25 mtompset So, you wish 5 errors on the page?
18:25 mtompset I can do that.
18:26 oleonard It makes more sense to add a label to the empty <option>. <option value="">Choose a day</option> Something like that.
18:26 mtompset Didn't want to force more translation work on people.
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18:27 mtompset But I had considered that too. Is that your preference?
18:27 oleonard The validator wants form controls to be clear and accessible. Adding an empty label attribute isn't really accomplishing anything.
18:28 mtompset Exactly, effectively as broken as it already is. ;)
18:28 oleonard It's not broken at all. It just doesn't pass the validator.
18:28 mtompset for some definitions of broken. :P
18:29 mtompset So, you recommend putting a "Choose a {foo}" type message?
18:29 oleonard For <select>s which are optional, I'd consider also text like "None" if that better expresses the value which is being submitted.
18:30 mtompset Okay... I'll look at those 5 lines.
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18:42 Joubu oleonard: works for me on master
18:42 oleonard Thanks for checking Joubu
18:45 mtompset oleonard: There..
18:45 wahanui i guess there is one... but i don't know it
18:45 mtompset "Not filtered by..."
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18:59 oleonard Bye all
19:35 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18066: Remove warnings from translate script <[…]32946ca9203f7519f>
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20:04 Joubu @later tell khall bug 18459 is marked as pushed but is not actually
20:04 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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21:54 mtompset Have a great day, #koha
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23:05 CrispyBran cait: do you have time for a quick question?
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23:15 CrispyBran tcohen, do you have time for a quick question
23:15 tcohen hi CrispyBran
23:15 tcohen shoot
23:16 CrispyBran I'm looking at  Paricularly the return2 section.  Is there a scenario you can think of where an item needs to show hold buttons and transfer buttons at the same time?
23:17 CrispyBran This particular dialog has mystified me since we joined Koha.
23:19 CrispyBran Seems to me that if an item has a hold, it should go to where the hold is.  Unless some libraries require items make it home before filling a hold.  But then why wouldn't that be done through settings rather than facing two choices?
23:20 tcohen CrispyBran: i'm not sure
23:21 CrispyBran I'm tempted to pull the transfer logic out of there and have the hold logic just handle it.
23:23 CrispyBran I wish there was something to refer to as to why it would have been written this way.  Oh well.
23:24 tcohen CrispyBran: the best approach is (usually) to file a bug, and attach a proposal
23:24 tcohen that way you will pick interested parties
23:24 tcohen attention
23:24 tcohen and probablly get the feedback you want
23:24 CrispyBran Thanks.  I think I may do that.
23:24 tcohen refactoring old pieces of code seems fun at some point
23:25 tcohen but don' tdo bit stuff all together
23:25 tcohen baby steps
23:25 tcohen otherwise QA people can get overwhelmed
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