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aleisha_ |
hi all |
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eythian |
Hi aleisha_ |
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wizzyrea |
howdy aleisha |
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aleisha_ |
hi wizzyrea and eythian |
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aleisha_ |
hows things |
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wizzyrea |
things are ok :) |
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wizzyrea |
ow are your things |
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wizzyrea |
how even. |
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eythian |
Surprisingly wintery tonight |
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wizzyrea |
it's nearly hot here |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on March 22, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
Wow |
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eythian |
@wunder Jordaan, ams |
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aleisha_ |
lots of heavy sighs and sadness on my end |
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huginn` |
eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.2°C (1:26 AM CET on March 22, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
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wizzyrea |
! aleisha_ ! |
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aleisha_ |
its warm but it was drizzling before |
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wizzyrea |
oo that's pretty cold eythian |
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wizzyrea |
yeah it wasn't so pleasant this morning |
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eythian |
Yeah, it was nice for a week. But changing spring I guess. |
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wizzyrea |
have you gotten your head around your backwards seasons yet? |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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wizzyrea |
i tease. |
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eythian |
Shit's weird |
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wizzyrea |
hehehehe |
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wizzyrea |
can relate. |
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wizzyrea |
no museum trips lately! |
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eythian |
We got snow, but the locals were sad due to no elfstedentocht this year |
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eythian |
Yeah, the next one is the Heineken Experience |
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eythian |
I need to find someone to do it with |
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wizzyrea |
elfstedentocht < what's that? |
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eythian |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfstedentocht a 200km skating tour, when the canals freeze well enough |
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eythian |
"eleven city tour" |
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wizzyrea |
whoooooah |
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wizzyrea |
has it ever been done since you've been there? |
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eythian |
Heh no |
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eythian |
It only happens once every ten or twenty years or so |
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wizzyrea |
oh so it's a thing for an especially cold winter |
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wizzyrea |
makes sense |
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eythian |
Yeah. I think 1997 was the last time |
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wizzyrea |
ok that's ages ago. |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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eythian |
Climate change not helping |
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wizzyrea |
yeah nah :( |
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wizzyrea |
didn't the netherlands recently outpace electrical demand with wind supply though? |
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wizzyrea |
I feel like I read that, I gave you a long distance mental fistbump. |
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eythian |
Hmm, i think i saw something like that |
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wizzyrea |
anyway well done there. |
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eythian |
Keeping in mind that a lot of heating is still gas, so... |
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wizzyrea |
yeah that's less good. |
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eythian |
They have a plan to get rid of that |
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wizzyrea |
I wish they'd do something about wood fires here |
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eythian |
In a few decades |
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wizzyrea |
i know they're very cozy |
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wizzyrea |
but wood smoke is not good in a city. |
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eythian |
No, wood fire is pretty smelly |
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eythian |
And smoggy |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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ashimema |
morning #koha |
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* cait |
waves |
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magnuse |
kia ora ashimema and cait |
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* magnuse |
is doing a final migration/go live today |
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cait |
cool:) |
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cait |
what kind of library? |
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magnuse |
swedish public library |
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* ashimema |
hopes to do a few more QA's today... between my other work :( |
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* magnuse |
cheers ashimema on |
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magnuse |
kia ora aleisha_ and laurence |
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aleisha_ |
hi magnuse |
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wahanui |
kamelåså |
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reiveune1 |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune1 |
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oha |
o/ |
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matts |
hello ! |
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LibraryClaire |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
salut, LibraryClaire |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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oha |
is overdrive something optionally installable? |
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oha |
because it is required by svc/overdrive and 500, but i don't think i enabled it. OTOH i might be slightly behind master |
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bag |
morning |
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magnuse |
bag: HI |
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bag |
magnuse: knuckles |
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magnuse |
bag: knuckles, indeed! |
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magnuse |
bag: having fun? |
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bag |
indeed :D |
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bag |
great hiking out on the islands yesterday afternoon |
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magnuse |
ah, cool! |
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magnuse |
frioul? |
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cait |
ao quiwet |
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cait |
quiet even |
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cait |
where are our hackfesters? :) |
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ashimema |
drojf about? |
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ashimema |
not yet |
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magnuse |
cait: sleeping? |
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bag |
cait wake up :D |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
bag: where is everyone? |
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wahanui |
i guess everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver |
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bag |
here cait :) just busy in little conversation |
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bag |
s |
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bag |
also the internet keeps going in and out cait |
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ashimema |
bag.. if drojf is there today could you poke him to get on irc pretty please ;) |
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bag |
he’s not in yet ashimema |
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* ashimema |
goes to dig out a long lost branch from pianohackers repo |
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bag |
but once he’s here I will tell him to ping you |
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ashimema |
cheers bag |
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cait |
kidclamp: are we doing the dev meeting today? |
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ashimema |
bag.. you don't happen to know if any of your sites have the shibboleth autocreation stuff in production do you? |
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ashimema |
it's a patch I shamelessly stole from pianohacker to submit to community (with his permission of course) way back.. |
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ashimema |
I can't see how it has ever worked.. so am trying to dig out the history |
| 09:21 |
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kidclamp |
lemme check ashimema |
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bag |
yeah we aren’t sure either ashimema |
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bag |
pianohacker does have that magic black boxiness from time to time ;) |
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* ashimema |
is sure he tested it at the time |
| 09:22 |
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ashimema |
perhaps the logic of it has got completely lost over the mass of rebases since it was first written |
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eythian |
hi |
| 09:22 |
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ashimema |
it's this line that makes not sense to me: |
| 09:22 |
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ashimema |
`$borrower{$key} = ( $entry->{'is'} && $ENV{ $entry->{'is'} } ) || $entry->{'content'} || '';` |
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bag |
so we think we found the site that has it in production - but we never here from them about it |
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bag |
s/here/hear |
| 09:24 |
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kidclamp |
other than that plack broke shib |
| 09:24 |
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bag |
so we aren’t sure if it is working |
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bag |
for autocreate |
| 09:25 |
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ashimema |
kidclamp.. see my plack patch for shib |
| 09:25 |
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ashimema |
I'll be rebaseing all the other shib patches on top of it today.. with the hope the plack fix gets in soon |
| 09:25 |
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ashimema |
ok.. thanks bag and kidclamp |
| 09:26 |
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ashimema |
I'm sure drojf told me he had the autocreate stuff working too.. will be interested to see what he says when he gets in |
| 09:26 |
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kidclamp |
I will try to do some testing on those when I get back if drojf doesn't beat me to it, need to get my ssh dev site running |
| 09:27 |
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kidclamp |
up to you cait, I'd rather not chair today but can try to attend |
| 09:28 |
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kidclamp |
there is nothing on the agenda |
| 09:29 |
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cait |
i just notices |
| 09:29 |
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cait |
noticed |
| 09:29 |
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cait |
we could cancel it, but should set a new date then probably |
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cait |
i had told some people to put stuff ont he agenda - but then noticed no wiki page :) |
| 09:31 |
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ashimema |
aha.. I think i've nailed that line.. it does do what we want it to do.. |
| 09:31 |
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ashimema |
it's just aobut the most obtuse way of writing it I've ever come accross though :( |
| 09:32 |
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ashimema |
however.. the tests still fail with it.. |
| 09:32 |
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ashimema |
and the way they fail is confusing the heck out of me :( |
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talljoy |
miss you cait! |
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cait |
miss you all too - hope to see you again soon :) |
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magnuse |
anyone else get an error when they click on the "show checkouts" button in 16.11.05? the data is loaded from the server, but the "Loading..." message never goes away and the JS console says "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot use 'in' operator to search for 'length' in lost" |
| 10:14 |
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cait |
have you tried browsercache? |
| 10:15 |
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magnuse |
only shift+reload |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
hm plack restart? |
| 10:16 |
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magnuse |
cait: whaddaya mean by browsercache? |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
the datatables things sometimes have proven to look broken after updates |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
until you delete your browser cache, but shift reload shoudl do the same i guess |
| 10:17 |
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magnuse |
plack restart did not help |
| 10:17 |
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cait |
hm translations? |
| 10:17 |
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wahanui |
translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
| 10:18 |
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bag |
memcached |
| 10:18 |
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wahanui |
memcached is running, but I dunno it Koha uses it. |
| 10:18 |
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cait |
might be ar real error, but don't have a 16.11.05 available to test right now :( just trying to rule out the usual traps |
| 10:18 |
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bag |
always memcached ;) |
| 10:18 |
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cait |
heh yeah, we don#t run memcached yet, so that's not on my list so far |
| 10:18 |
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cait |
(with 3.22 - will when update probably) |
| 10:19 |
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bag |
as kidclamp says - when in doubt - always restart memcached :) |
| 10:19 |
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magnuse |
yeah, no memcached on this server actually |
| 10:19 |
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magnuse |
it happens both with english and swedish |
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magnuse |
bleurgh, it works on another 16.11.05 |
| 10:21 |
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magnuse |
so probably a data problem |
| 10:24 |
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bag |
stand on one foot and sing - then it will work |
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* magnuse |
tries that |
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cait |
photo? |
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cait |
can someone please hack magnuse webcam? :) |
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eythian |
cait: done. |
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eythian |
ooh, I can't share that. |
| 10:32 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18284: [QA Follow-up] Add test descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bbb003e4b710344e3> / Bug 18284: (bug 17196 follow-up) Move biblio metadata when a biblio is deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9bbb2282c3b2bfcb5> |
| 10:32 |
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eythian |
geez magnuse |
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* magnuse |
stops |
| 10:33 |
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Guest922 |
Hi, we are a university in India. We would like to give an internship to a student during the summer break, in which he will work on koha. A proposal is given here: https://paste.debian.net/923231/ Can a deleloper go though this, and share his/her openion it feasibility of this idea? |
| 10:36 |
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eythian |
Guest922: on the surface, it seems like a good thing. If I were you I'd take it to the mailing list, that's probably the best place for this sort of feedback. |
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Guest922 |
eythian: Actually i sent it over to koha-devel list first. I did not get any responses. Maybe it did not properly get posted in the list. |
| 10:37 |
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eythian |
ah, in that case, nagging some people in IRC is a good thing :) |
| 10:38 |
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Guest922 |
Can someone confirm if a mail subjected "Proposal to give summer internship to students for working on Koha" did reach the list otherwise I'll resend the email. |
| 10:39 |
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eythian |
http://lists.koha-community.or[…]rmail/koha-devel/ I can't see it in these archives, fwiw |
| 10:40 |
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cait |
Guest922: did you subscribe and confirm? |
| 10:40 |
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cait |
it might be stuck in moderaton |
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gaetan_B |
anyone running 3.22 on ubuntu ? |
| 10:44 |
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gaetan_B |
xenial xerus |
| 10:45 |
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Guest922 |
ah, it was a mistake from my side. I had subscribed to "koha" and send the email to "koha-devel" |
| 10:45 |
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Guest922 |
I am resending the email. :) |
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Infra_3600 |
hello ! Does koha work on Debian Stretch? |
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cait |
Infra_3600: not sure that has been tested yet - most are on stable |
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Infra_3600 |
thanks |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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bag |
heya oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
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oleonard |
I think it's mostly been wishes lately wahanui |
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bag |
time for more cheese ;) |
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oleonard |
:| |
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eythian |
yeah, I think wednesday is cheese day at lunch here |
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eythian |
so much cheese |
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* ashimema |
decides to have cheese for lunch today |
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* LibraryClaire_ |
is struggling to look at any more cheese |
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LibraryClaire_ |
ooh an underscore, how exotic |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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eythian |
hi LibraryClaire |
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eythian |
hoi marcelr |
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marcelr |
hey eythian |
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LibraryClaire |
hullo |
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wahanui |
eythian is a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says. |
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eythian |
wahanui: pianohacker can't even spell arse right, what would he know |
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wahanui |
eythian: i haven't a clue |
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eythian |
exactly |
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oleonard |
Send surplus cheese my way please. |
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* LibraryClaire |
posts stinkiest cheese to oleonard |
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marcelr |
ashimema: thx for your qa; dare to add the followup of Jonathan too (17737) ? |
| 12:19 |
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ashimema |
'tis next on the list |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #129: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/129/ |
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jenkins |
* brendan: Bug 18284: (bug 17196 follow-up) Move biblio metadata when a biblio is |
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jenkins |
* brendan: Bug 18284: [QA Follow-up] Add test descriptions |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18284 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Biblio metadata are not moved to the deleted table when a biblio is deleted |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table |
| 12:19 |
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ashimema |
just trying to get my head around this failing shibboleth test at the minute.. |
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marcelr |
did you see mu comment |
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ashimema |
sorry for the cockup on that bug btw.. i've restored your patches |
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marcelr |
i changed BUG to Bug etc |
| 12:19 |
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ashimema |
bloody git bz |
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marcelr |
applying them from gitbz may be better than applying local ones (outdated?) |
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* ashimema |
blames git bz when it was likely actually user error |
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marcelr |
you should blame something |
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oleonard |
git bz burned my toast this morning. |
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marcelr |
git bz can have it |
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ashimema |
yeah.. i'll be pulling them down again as soon as I've fixed my gitbz install on this test server.. i made the mistake of 'lending' my main dev server to one of the team here to test somthing. |
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ashimema |
now I'm dead in the water for a few hours whilst they use it unless I can get this other server working again :9 |
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marcelr |
lending a server lol |
| 12:21 |
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ashimema |
haha.. yup |
| 12:22 |
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ashimema |
jsut to check.. the failure you're getting on those tests is ldap related.. |
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ashimema |
just want to make sure we're seeing the same thing |
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ashimema |
I have no idea why ldap is getting initialised at all after the patches.. it shouldn't be :( |
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ashimema |
cd |
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marcelr |
ashimema: added a comment |
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ashimema |
cheers |
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ashimema |
yup.. that corresponds.. thanks |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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Brooke |
hi! |
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ashimema |
Hi Joubu |
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drojf |
bonjour! |
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Brooke |
Bonjour |
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wahanui |
hello, Brooke |
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* drojf |
waves at ashimema |
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ashimema |
hi drojf |
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ashimema |
I'll be working on that shib autoprovisioning again later.. the test failure is so far completely baffling me though :9 |
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drojf |
ashimema: we got an rdf talk now, i will look at it when we are done. don't remember tests failing for me |
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ashimema |
no worries |
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ashimema |
enjoy the talkf |
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francharb |
Hi #koha |
| 13:34 |
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Brooke |
hi :) |
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marcelr |
Joubu: bug 12026 Just want to ask you why? :) If we understood, it would certainlyu help us.. |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth auto-provisioning |
| 13:46 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: I have no ******* idea |
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Joubu |
you wrote the patch I mention :p |
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ashimema |
haha.. yeah, i was very confused |
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Joubu |
you should know, don't you? |
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marcelr |
no se nada |
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Joubu |
I would answer "circular dependencies" |
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ashimema |
there's another minor followup I need to add to that bug beyond just that btw |
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Joubu |
and bad import/export |
| 13:47 |
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ashimema |
before anyone goes ahead and continue to work on it ;) |
| 13:47 |
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Joubu |
that's why I revive bug 17600 yesterday |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Standardize the EXPORT |
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* ashimema |
really wants his server back now |
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marcelr |
ashimema: that why we have statuses |
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Joubu |
resurect* |
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Joubu |
I faced it again |
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marcelr |
yes I saw it Joubu |
| 13:48 |
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marcelr |
we will probably generate some bugs |
| 13:48 |
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Joubu |
probably |
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Joubu |
but it definitely worth the try |
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oha |
Joubu: fixed the warning about undef sessionID |
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oha |
also, removed Plack::App::CGIBin and instead using a completely cgi-free environment now |
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oha |
just pushed the changes out |
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marcelr |
ashimema: i have no objection to SO if you did not turn it upside down |
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ashimema |
drojf when you're ready those shib patches are now back up to date |
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marcelr |
ashimema: ^^ |
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drojf |
ashimema: i just found like 30 emails about changes on that bug ;) |
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ashimema |
brill.. thanks marcelr |
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ashimema |
haha |
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marcelr |
drojf: just delete them ;) |
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drojf |
ha all different since i looked before the presentation. :D |
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ashimema |
I found a tiny bug in your rebase.. I say bug.. it wouldn't actually have mattered to be fair |
| 14:05 |
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ashimema |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]&attachment=61449 |
| 14:05 |
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drojf |
ok so signoff is needed only for the last oatch? |
| 14:05 |
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ashimema |
nah, marcel is happy to qa as is :) |
| 14:05 |
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drojf |
patch |
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drojf |
oh. perfect! |
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wahanui |
rumour has it perfect is the enemy of good |
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drojf |
my work here is done :D |
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ashimema |
:) |
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drojf |
cool, thanks everybody |
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ashimema |
right.. I'm gonna go dive back into 17737.. looks good to me.. :) |
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ashimema |
then 17600 |
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ashimema |
hwo does the http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ get it's monthly stats? |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
seems stuck at January? |
| 14:13 |
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Joubu |
titles are updated manually |
| 14:13 |
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Joubu |
by rangi |
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ashimema |
Oh.. I see |
| 14:15 |
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Joubu |
numbers are ok, the titles are not |
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drojf |
@later tell tcohen https://packages.qa.debian.org[…]0321T110010Z.html |
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drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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ashimema |
hmm.. code no longer open on github |
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marcelr |
if dashboard would say Current month, you would not need that update anymore |
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bag |
but you would have to know what month it is :P |
| 14:26 |
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marcelr |
bag: maybe you can find it on another site? |
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Joubu |
rangi accepts pull requests ;) |
| 14:26 |
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marcelr |
yeah |
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marcelr |
and these patches pushed counts do not increase anymore? |
| 14:27 |
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marcelr |
or should we just push kyle a little bit :) |
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Joubu |
yeah, nothing pushed recently |
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cait |
would be good to get some bugfixes in until friday |
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cait |
if no string changes or bad enough i can push them before the next release on monday |
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Joubu |
oha: we have 2 psgi files: debian/templates/plack.psgi and misc/plack/koha.psgi |
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oha |
what is the second one for? |
| 14:32 |
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Joubu |
one is for package install (debian/) the other one is for dev install (legacy) |
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oha |
ok, i was manually running the first to make development faster |
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oha |
will patch the other one too |
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oha |
(are they the same, or...?) |
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oha |
(they are very not, mh...) |
| 14:39 |
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Joubu |
quite the same... |
| 14:41 |
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Joubu |
the thing is that the first one has interesting options for debugging |
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oha |
i always used the first one for my tests |
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Joubu |
we should move them and remove the lagecy file |
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bag |
hey Joubu |
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oha |
I think i should remove the ugly redefs and instead modify C4::Auth to allow hijacking |
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bag |
missed you here - last night we did a jagermeister shot in your name - cheers dood |
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oha |
at first, i made it work with the sub foo { _foo() } wrappers, but since it fights with Exporter, i might do the "right" thing |
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Joubu |
bag: haha, thanks for that :) |
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Joubu |
I am gonna drink Fernet tonight in your names then |
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bag |
haha! excellent |
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cait |
Joubu: with coca? |
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Joubu |
I did not try it since I arrived actually. So it will depend on how my palate remembers it |
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marcelr |
hi hackfesters: anyone willing to take a look at bug 18228; should not be that hard to test |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18228 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Make list permissions easier to use/understand |
| 14:54 |
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bag |
JesseM ^^^ |
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JesseM |
I can test |
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bag |
yeah marcelr I will be catching up on pushing the next two days |
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bag |
so we’ll see those pushed numbers jumped up a bit :) |
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marcelr |
bag++ |
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marcelr |
bag: might be a problem too of the dashboard itself |
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bag |
I pushed one this morning :) |
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marcelr |
life of these RMs got much harder after dashboards were introduced :) |
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marcelr |
drojf: maybe manually set your PERL5LIB and run the test again? |
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marcelr |
JesseM++ # hope to see you test it |
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drojf |
marcelr: will try |
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drojf |
marcelr: yep. thanks |
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marcelr |
Joubu: we could throw an exception in output_pref if you like that ;) |
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marcelr |
probably adding the name of the caller or so |
| 15:12 |
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cbutosi |
Hi all, I'm about manually reindex zebra (koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v {instancename}) on 16.05 package install, but haven't done it in a while. Running this script in koha-shell is probably the recommended way of doing this, right? I remember something about permissions breaking if running in root. |
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Joubu |
marcelr: yes that would certainly be better |
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eythian |
cbutosi: yep |
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Joubu |
cbutosi: yes |
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eythian |
well |
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eythian |
actually, for using koha-rebuild-zebra it should be fine |
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eythian |
it's when you use rebuild_zebra.pl manually |
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eythian |
that you get problems |
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marcelr |
doesnt it include a sudo call? |
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marcelr |
or su -c or so |
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eythian |
yeah, it does |
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eythian |
(I'm fairly sure) |
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Joubu |
sudo -u "$instancename-koha" |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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cbutosi |
eythian: Ah, I see. I was planning on running the Debian command, rather than running it as /path/to/script/rebuild_zebra.pl |
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eythian |
yeah, that's the best way |
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eythian |
it should take care of permissions for you |
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cbutosi |
Joubu: >>sudo -u "$instancename-koha" - Yes, this is what I was thinking, which looks the same as koha-shell {instancename} |
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andreashm |
how was the RDF talk at the hackfest today? |
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cbutosi |
eythian, Joubu: Thanks friends! Much appreciated, as always |
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eythian |
np |
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bag |
andreashm: it was good |
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bag |
quick demo on some ideas and then talljoy talked high level of what linked data is |
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bag |
kidclamp: showed his work |
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Joubu |
cbutosi: the sudo commands I pasted comes from the koha-rebuild-zebra script |
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talljoy |
kidclamp actually showed his manifestation |
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oleonard |
:| |
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cbutosi |
Joubu: Ok, thanks! I keep forgetting about checking the script for these things. *headsmack* |
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eythian |
ideally, all the koha-* commands should do the right thing and not give you broken stuff, and if they do, that's a bug for drojf to fix :) |
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andreashm |
bag: sounds good. to bad none from our team could be there. |
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bag |
:) always next year :D |
| 15:27 |
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andreashm |
but magnuse said he hoped to have something to show later this week. perhaps it can also be shown at the hackfest? |
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andreashm |
bag: I've been saying that for two years in a row now! =) |
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andreashm |
talljoy: oh, nice! |
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talljoy |
:D |
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andreashm |
talljoy: sounds like you guys have come a long way then with your work? |
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talljoy |
in our minds perhaps, not so much in code. hehe |
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drojf |
marcelr: thansk for helping with the test, i signed off on both upload bugs now |
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drojf |
*thanks |
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marcelr |
great drojf++ |
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marcelr |
JesseM: eric gosselin signed off on one patch |
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JesseM |
okay I was just finishing the tests |
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JesseM |
:) |
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JesseM |
too slow |
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andreashm |
talljoy: =) |
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marcelr |
JesseM: would not be bad to have your signoff too on the report then |
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JesseM |
okay I will finish and submit |
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marcelr |
JesseM: sometimes adding a comment that you are working on a patch may help (if they read it) |
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kidclamp |
ashimema bug 18316 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add weighting/relevancy options to ElasticSearch |
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kidclamp |
Joubu: for concern about indexing code vs. descriptions (re bug 17500) do you have any suggestions? My only thought is index code and description - use the description for sorting and the code for diplaying - so things at least look right if description changes and will be fixed on next index |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons |
| 15:44 |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: just index the code |
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Joubu |
and fetch the description for display |
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kidclamp |
but for sorting? |
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Joubu |
and... ok for sorting you will need something |
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kidclamp |
hehe |
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Joubu |
what would happen if a description changes from "aaa" to "zzz"? |
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kidclamp |
you would show "zzz" but it owuld sort like "aaa" |
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Joubu |
and not all occurrences have been updated in the ES index |
| 15:46 |
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kidclamp |
oh and some wooulds ort right |
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Joubu |
which description of what do you want to store in the index? |
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kidclamp |
I don't want store any, but it was an issue you raised, just trying to think on it |
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kidclamp |
:-0 |
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kidclamp |
;-) |
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* kidclamp |
is bad typing today |
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Joubu |
I raised it for AV |
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* Joubu |
is bad typing everyday |
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Joubu |
for AV you can fetch them from the DB |
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Joubu |
no need to ask ES to sort them out |
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kidclamp |
for borrower search do we need to sort in elastic, can't we just datatables sort? |
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Joubu |
nope we need ES sort |
| 15:50 |
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Joubu |
for libraries and patron categories at least |
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kidclamp |
ok, I will think more, just wanted to see if you had any solution |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: I do not think there are any perfect solutions |
| 15:52 |
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Joubu |
we need to take a decision, either sort on codes or sort on descriptions but require a reindex when code are changed |
| 15:53 |
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kidclamp |
I prefer the second - but then we need a way for staff to initiate a reindex |
| 15:53 |
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kidclamp |
which I would like to see anyways |
| 15:54 |
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kidclamp |
changing mappings will require bib reindex too |
| 15:54 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: I do not understand why there are so much of your prose on bug 17866. |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17866 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Change sender for serial claim notifications |
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Joubu |
really? |
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wahanui |
really is more trouble than she's worth. |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: I do not think we want that :) |
| 15:55 |
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Joubu |
full reindex on an already busy server can mess everything up :) |
| 15:55 |
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kidclamp |
then why give them a mapping tool? :-) |
| 15:56 |
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Joubu |
to configure/check/confirm the mappings |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: seen bug 18235? |
| 15:57 |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'bug', Joubu |
| 15:57 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Elastic search - Configurable facets |
| 15:57 |
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kidclamp |
I have, just keep getting distracted - done talking so should be more able to test tomorrow |
| 15:58 |
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kidclamp |
can't break your ES instance before you present it :-) |
| 15:59 |
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eythian |
a regular reindex with ES can be totally online, but yeah, code changing will require a drop and reload. A future solution might be to have a feature to schedule downtime automatically while it happens, so they can set it up and tell it to start running at midnight :) |
| 15:59 |
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eythian |
(or, load into another index and do a drop-rename dance. That might be possible.) |
| 16:00 |
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kidclamp |
yeah, we should be using aliases for reindex |
| 16:00 |
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Joubu |
Is it possible to update only 1 field of a record? Or do we reindex the full record? |
| 16:00 |
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Joubu |
or do we have to* |
| 16:02 |
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eythian |
Joubu: iirc you have to update the whole record. |
| 16:02 |
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eythian |
but that's not a big deal in general. |
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archer121 |
hi, currently, patrons in one branch can check out books belonging to another branch. How do I restrict this? |
| 16:08 |
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archer121 |
I don't see any relavent system preferences |
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Joubu |
eythian: it is if you have to process and reindex all the records :) |
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Joubu |
would be much more quicker to update only 1 field |
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eythian |
yeah, but it's not terrible as it's all online, so it can run and the new/updated data will appear as the process runs. |
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eythian |
though, I'd suggest you check anyway. It's been a while since I've looked into it and things may have changed. |
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cait |
archer121: check your circulation conditions |
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cait |
hm |
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archer121 |
cait: Circulation and Fine rules? |
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cait |
it works for holds |
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cait |
thinking about checkouts |
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fridolin1 |
kidclamp: thanks a looooooooot : 5.x indeed |
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cait |
archer121: you can limit holds - so they can*t place holds on items from other branches |
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cait: We don't allow holds at all. |
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cait |
I am actually not sure how to do it for checouts - if all branches use the same itemtypes/patron cateogiry |
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cait |
categories |
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wahanui |
categories are only coming up with special types |
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cait |
maybe something for the mailing list |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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reiveune |
bye |
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kidclamp |
Joubu - i tried to rebase patron search and fix for ES5 - take a look if you have a chance |
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kidclamp |
bug 17500 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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andreashm |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
hola, andreashm |
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espen_ |
hi guys |
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espen_ |
recent koha convert joining in after a successful rollout (two weeks in) |
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cait |
welcome :) |
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cait |
where are you from? |
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espen_ |
I'm Norwegian but transplanted to the UK :) |
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espen_ |
I take it from the 'morning' some of you guys are well West of here! |
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barton |
welcome espen_! |
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espen_ |
thanks |
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barton |
espen_: we're from all over... rangi is in New Zealand. |
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barton |
here's a list of the regulars: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars ... some of the entries are woefully out of date. |
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espen_ |
well, that could be either East or West from here! |
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espen_ |
as you may imagine I have a some residual issues to consider after the roll out, so was hoping to pick your brains |
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barton |
well, you're in the right place :-) |
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espen_ |
that's what I figured from occasional lurking! |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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barton |
what kinds of issues are you having? |
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barton |
hi wizzyrea! |
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wizzyrea |
sup :) |
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espen_ |
back-story is that had to crow-bar data from a Voyager system with holdings data from a separate circulation system (don't ask!) |
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wizzyrea |
nah we wouldn't judge. |
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barton |
oo, that sounds like ... um. fun? |
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espen_ |
basically it means I've spend a lot of time getting dirty in the items table |
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espen_ |
(basically I had lots of errr....ok'ish biblios that need matching to holdings data from a separate system) |
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espen_ |
no too bad; about 1000 items left from 15000 total to 'figure' out |
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espen_ |
but I've now spent so much time in the database I'm not sure if my next challenge is best approached there or somewhere else: |
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espen_ |
which is, all my patrons have cardnumbers that are dynamic (ie. its the UID on a mifare card which changes each time the card gets replaced) |
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wizzyrea |
oh ew |
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espen_ |
I need to decide how to best synchronise this |
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wizzyrea |
well in the simplest case, you just change the number in Koha and you're done. |
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wizzyrea |
how often do the cards get replaced? |
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wizzyrea |
i mean, it's quite standard to change card numbers when you get a new library card. |
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espen_ |
I'm aiming to automate this, and my first instinct (given the above) is to do this the database level (I can create table with the cardnumbers matched to the userid) |
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wizzyrea |
hey eythian - what should the pacific list be? or should it just be removed |
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espen_ |
I'm just wondering if I'm missing something on the 'tools' level which would be more 'polite' for updating user records |
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barton |
also, who's going to be changing them? Is this someting that would be handled at the circ desk on a patron by patron basis, or are you likely to have a list (if there are a zillion of them) |
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espen_ |
my aim is automation |
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espen_ |
I get a daily feed of card numbers keyed to what we use for the userid |
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wizzyrea |
oh you'll have to write code to do this |
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wizzyrea |
the batch import tool might help you though |
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wizzyrea |
actually you might just be able to use the batch patron import completely. |
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wizzyrea |
through the UI |
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barton |
yeah, that was the direction I was going. |
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wizzyrea |
but you'd still have to put hands on it |
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espen_ |
I'm hoping to do this on the CLI so I can do it through cron |
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wizzyrea |
if you wanted it fully auto, as in "someone puts a file somewhere on the server automatically and ^" that |
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wizzyrea |
you'll need to write code |
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espen_ |
I'm ok with that |
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wizzyrea |
but lucky for you there's already a batch importer |
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espen_ |
I'm just pondering the best path |
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wizzyrea |
so probably making it cli would be nice |
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wizzyrea |
to update the borrowers. I don't think anyone has done that yet. |
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barton |
I think there may be a bug open for a command line import tool, but it got stuck in discussion. |
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wizzyrea |
i mean maybe they have but it's not in core Koha. |
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wizzyrea |
seems likely :) |
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wizzyrea |
the patron import tool is in More -> tools, if you want to look at what the UI does |
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wizzyrea |
it'll lead you to the scripts too |
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wizzyrea |
word of warning, if you modify Koha too much without submitting your changes, you'll have a hard time in upgrades. |
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espen_ |
ok, I'm definitely not into overly customizing |
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espen_ |
my design goal is to stay up to date off the repo! |
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espen_ |
of |
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cait |
depending on the version you use, there might be something in the rest api |
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wizzyrea |
oh true |
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espen_ |
ok, so the borrow tool is the one in cgi-bin? |
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cait |
tcohen: is the patron rest api usable do you know? |
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espen_ |
borrowers |
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wahanui |
borrowers is InnoDB in oleonard's test system, FWIW |
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cait |
tools - patron import |
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espen_ |
aye |
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espen_ |
I've not seen the REST API; time to investigate |
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espen_ |
work still in progress? |
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cait |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cb4d058f6a0c50e77 |
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cait |
yes, but some parts are in 16.11.x |
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cait |
brb |
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espen_ |
hmmm.... |
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cait |
there is more information about the rest api on the wiki |
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espen_ |
looking at this now |
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espen_ |
skipped over it earlier because it looked like work in progress |
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espen_ |
so, between this and my alternative plan of updating the borrows table directly in mysql (update/insert from my card database) what are the potential pitt-falls? |
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wizzyrea |
none really, koha only uses the userid/cardnumber for identifying the public face of the borrower |
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wizzyrea |
internally it uses a db assigned number. |
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espen_ |
yeah....it should be 'safe' in that sense. one advantage I can see for the REST is that I could make it push from the card database in a single script |
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espen_ |
currently the card data is FEDERATED database/table so the logic that gets the data on to the koha server is separate from the script I need to write to actually do the update |
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espen_ |
because mysql doesn't have any other way of querying external databases..... which surprised me |
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espen_ |
so, on the subject of massaging the data directly in the tables, the only 'catch' I encountered with my items was that koha's itemtype seems to be stored in 3 different places? |
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espen_ |
biblioitems,items and.....this took me a while marc_xml 942c |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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espen_ |
so...the canonical reference is the latter? |
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wizzyrea |
not sure what you mean by canonical reference. Biblioitems holds the biblio level item type |
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wizzyrea |
items holds the item level item type |
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espen_ |
but if I 'touch' either the 942c will override them? |
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wizzyrea |
it can |
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wizzyrea |
items is independent of the biblio level item type |
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wizzyrea |
marcxml and biblioitems should always be the same |
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espen_ |
ok, I probably didn't pick that up because we currently only have BK |
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wizzyrea |
there are tools in koha to fix up the marcxml if they get out of sync |
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wizzyrea |
for example |
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espen_ |
That's what I did in the end |
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wizzyrea |
you can have lots of item types, Adult fiction book, youth fiction books |
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espen_ |
Tools->Batch modify MARC |
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wizzyrea |
item type on the items is how you control circulation |
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wizzyrea |
you could have one bibliographic record for hamlet |
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wizzyrea |
and 10 items with different item types |
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wizzyrea |
that wasn't the tool I was thinking of but yep that's another way to do it. |
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espen_ |
there is one that would have done it automatically? |
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espen_ |
the CLI tools did the inverse of what I wanted :-) |
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espen_ |
(all my BKs became NULLs!) |
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wizzyrea |
yeah you'd want to start with them set in the biblioitems table, and then do touch_all_biblios.pl which should rewrite the xml from the data in biblio and biblioitems. |
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wizzyrea |
(it's been a while since I've had to do that, and I might be thinking of a tool in the migration toolkit anyway) |
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espen_ |
oh well, got sorted in the end, but that's useful to know |
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espen_ |
didn't affect our roll out, our cataloguer just got a bit annoyed that edits always required a visit to tab 9 to set the itemtype before saving |
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wizzyrea |
you can default that |
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espen_ |
I have that set |
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wizzyrea |
we can't make a default for it because a new Koha comes without itemtypes ;) |
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wizzyrea |
(unless you isntall the sample data, but we don't assume that.) |
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espen_ |
the default works for new items catalogued in koha, but not Z39.50 lookup |
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espen_ |
or the stuff I bulk-loaded |
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wizzyrea |
you set it in the default framework? |
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espen_ |
uhu |
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wizzyrea |
This surprises me. |
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espen_ |
hang on |
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espen_ |
you're right |
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espen_ |
I've set it somewhere as a preference |
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espen_ |
but not the framework |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
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espen_ |
thanks |
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espen_ |
that's another thing off my snagging list |
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* andreashm |
sent a mail to the mailing list. I wonder if that's a first, or if I've written before but forgotten? |
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andreashm |
It's seems I've writen to devel before, but not the general list. Interesting. (at least to me) |
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espen_ |
so, one more question; non-critical but puzzling: I can't get /usr/sbin/koha-foreach to work |
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wizzyrea |
what's the OS? |
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espen_ |
Ubuntu 16.04 |
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wahanui |
Ubuntu 16.04 is the new LTS release. |
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espen_ |
:) |
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espen_ |
basically it runs of CLI |
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espen_ |
but never from cron |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
rangi and i were looking at that one yesterday |
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espen_ |
if I take it out (I only have one library) everything's fine |
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espen_ |
so I'm not going nuts? :-) |
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wizzyrea |
something like Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm: ./Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm: |
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espen_ |
yeah...I started down that rabbit-hole |
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espen_ |
didn't get to a solution |
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rangi |
just add cd /tmp && |
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rangi |
before the koha-foreach |
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wizzyrea |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17717 here's the bug |
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Bug 17717: critical, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm |
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rangi |
its a permissions issue, something in perl 5.22 has changed |
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rangi |
its not actually a koha problem, there are a few perl modules that have the problem |
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espen_ |
ok....not just me then; I'll keep an eye on it an reintroduce the koha-foreach when a permanent solution is in place. Thanks for the tip rangi |
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espen_ |
(doesn't seem to be in the bug report) |
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wizzyrea |
it'd end up looking like this |
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wizzyrea |
*/15 * * * * root cd /tmp && koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl |
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wizzyrea |
it was literally the last thing we did yesterday lol |
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wizzyrea |
at work. before locking our computers and walking out the door. |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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espen_ |
good timing |
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espen_ |
so....I'm left with a question about Shibboleth but will save it for another session! |
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wizzyrea |
pass, I know exactly 0 about shib |
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espen_ |
well...it may be something indirect, my URLs aren't rending correctly and I suspect a more generic variable isn't what it should be somewhere |
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espen_ |
but I'll poke around a bit more and let you know if I get stuck with something more specific |
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espen_ |
you've been very helpful; thanks! |
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wizzyrea |
no worries |
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espen_ |
have you good day ahead for those who've already started out! From this end it's g'night! |
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tcohen |
hi |
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tcohen |
drojf++ |
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tcohen |
anyone willing to sign bug 17828? |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17828 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Koha::Patron::Attribute->store should raise an exception if unique_id is being broken |
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tcohen |
UTC+12 are very busy people |
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rangi |
ill take a look tcohen |
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tcohen |
he, thanks rangi |
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tcohen |
jonathan is testing/QAing 13757 which depends on several patches that are dependencies for this |
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tcohen |
it'd be great someone has tested this simple one, so he does QA on this one too |
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tcohen |
I managed to break an authority record by merging it in 16.11 |
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rangi |
you should also take a look at bug 17717 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17717 critical, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm |
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rangi |
i have a workaround, but it will hit in debian 9 (its already hit in ubuntu 16.04) |
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tcohen |
thanks for the pointer, rangi |
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rangi |
its something up with permissions when running under cron |
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rangi |
people have reported it for other modules too |
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cait |
hm the module is a bit outdated - not latest cas standard too |
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cait |
i should sleep :) night #koha |
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tcohen |
the problem with auth merge, is that it allows you to click the merge button while the merge result is not yet loaded |
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rangi |
ahh that would break stuff |
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tcohen |
we need to disable the button |
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tcohen |
until it is asynchronously loaded |
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rangi |
yep |
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