IRC log for #koha, 2017-02-13

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02:26 hertz Hello
02:26 wahanui bonjour, hertz
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02:36 hertz Hey whats up
02:37 hertz Is this room dedicated to programming
02:37 hertz ?
02:37 wizzycray Welcome to the #koha IRC chat | Code of conduct -[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is
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02:41 volve hey all, anyone around? I'm still battling this "No biblionumber tag for framework "DCHM" at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 3093" internal server error on my new install :(
02:44 wizzycray did you delete the 999c from your framework?
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02:48 volve wizzycray: nope
02:48 wizzycray do you have it mapped to the biblionumber in koha->marc mappings?
02:48 wizzycray 999c -> biblio.biblionumber
02:49 volve yup :/
02:49 volve and marc links is happy too
02:50 volve when I poke at the database with `select count(*) from marc_subfield_structure where frameworkcode="DCHM" and kohafield="biblio.biblionumber";` comes back as 0, I'm not sure if that's right though
02:51 wizzycray new or old framework?
02:52 volve Default
02:52 volve not editted
02:52 volve literally a fresh install
02:52 volve clearly something's wonky somewhere, but I'm a newb to Koha so have no idea where to look
02:52 wizzycray well the framework code on a new install for the default framework would be
02:52 wizzycray ""
02:52 wizzycray iirc.
02:52 volve well that's curious
02:53 wizzycray did you import your database from a different Koha?
02:53 volve when I look at the marc frameworks page in intra, there's no code listed as DCHM, oddly
02:53 * wizzycray is not surprised
02:54 volve why are you not surprised? :)
02:54 wizzycray it would seem that possibly you have set framework codes on your records
02:54 wizzycray that don't actually match up to an existent framework
02:54 wizzycray but that's just a guess
02:54 wizzycray if you exported the default framework
02:54 wizzycray created a new framework with the code DCHM
02:54 wizzycray then imported the default framework on top of that
02:54 wizzycray does it magically start working?
02:55 wizzycray it won't hurt, anyway.
02:55 volve I can give it a try
02:56 volve the funny thing is I have no records at all
02:56 wizzycray where do you get the message?
02:56 wahanui i guess the message is self-explanatory
02:56 volve I get this error when trying to add my very first record
02:56 wizzycray your default framework exists?
02:56 volve yes
02:57 wizzycray what version is this?
02:58 volve my repro steps are: Cataloging -> New from Z39.50/SRU -> Title search from 2 targets -> Click "Import" on 1 of the 4 results -> Choose "Book" as Koha item type -> Hit Save -> "Internal Server Error" with log entry about DCHM
02:58 wizzycray yeah but what version
02:58 wizzycray and what server OS/MySQL version
02:59 volve
02:59 volve Linux Ubuntu, Mysql 5.5.54
02:59 wizzycray what version of ubuntu?
02:59 * volve double-checks
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03:01 volve I think it's 16.04
03:02 volve it's running in a Docker container
03:02 wizzycray Ah
03:02 wizzycray hm.
03:07 volve Indeed.
03:08 volve So why would DCHM be a factor when trying to save a new record if there are no frameworks listed with a DCHM code?
03:08 volve And how can I get them out, ha
03:08 wizzycray I don't know where it's getting DCHM for
03:08 wizzycray from*
03:08 wizzycray is that the name of your library?
03:08 wizzycray or the code?
03:08 wahanui i think the code is kept at
03:08 wizzycray shh.
03:09 volve I have no knowledge of what "DCHM" might mean
03:09 volve funnily enough Google found 1 result for this exact error, and pointed me here... 1 month ago
03:09 wizzycray are you logged in as the database user or as a regular user with permissions/
03:09 volve looking at the channel logs, the person in question magically figured it out with no explanation...
03:10 volve wizzycray: I've tried saving records as both, same error
03:11 volve I think I may have found a reference. The devs that setup this docker image use this github repo:
03:11 volve it's very active
03:11 volve but there's a reference to DCHM buried in there
03:11 volve So I'll dig some more
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03:11 volve "<option value="DCHM">Deichman-rammeverk</option>" in one of their patches
03:12 wizzycray was this a docker thing you downloaded from somewhere?
03:13 wizzycray heh
03:13 wizzycray yeah don't use that
03:13 volve they publish their Koha images for Docker to Docker's image Hub - and their scripts do seem to work well
03:13 wizzycray that's great, but it's not core Koha
03:13 wizzycray it's got their stuff in it
03:13 wizzycray which obviously breaks it
03:14 wizzycray is this koha for production or for fun
03:14 volve to be fair, I also did a vanilla Debian install using the official guide and got crazy database errors simply stepping through the install wizard :\
03:14 wizzycray you'd have better luck getting help with those than with the digibib docker thing
03:14 volve at the step where you choose which sample data you want, everything kept exploding
03:15 wizzycray that was probably mysql 5.7
03:15 wizzycray which (all the sigh) is a known problem
03:15 wizzycray if you just want to play
03:15 volve oh, what version of mysql is preferred then? the guides didn't specify
03:15 wizzycray this is a much better route
03:16 wizzycray and you get a developer install too.
03:16 volve wizzycray: that's the same devs as the docker image, ha!
03:16 wizzycray but don't run that in production.
03:16 wizzycray yeah, but not really.
03:16 wizzycray they started that, but they don't maintain it to speak of.
03:16 wizzycray community people do
03:16 wizzycray I know it's confusing
03:16 volve oh, odd
03:16 wizzycray @later tell tcohen maybe it's time to move devbox out from under digibib?
03:16 huginn wizzycray: The operation succeeded.
03:17 volve ok, well if I wanted to do a fool-proof production deployment, is there a better guide that has compatible mysql versions and such?
03:17 wizzycray basically, for current versions
03:17 wizzycray either use mariadb, or mysql 5.5
03:17 wizzycray the ubuntu/debian version shouldn't give you too much hassle
03:18 wizzycray generally speaking, the community likes debian 8
03:18 wizzycray debian, generally.
03:19 wizzycray https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian this is the most usually and frequently maintained guide
03:19 wizzycray there are lots of blog posts, most of them are wrong in some way.
03:19 wizzycray but not this page, normally.
03:19 volve yeah that's the one I followed, but it doesn't mention mysql versions I don't believe
03:19 wizzycray probably not, the 5.7 thing is quite new.
03:19 volve that's frustrating
03:19 wizzycray yep
03:20 volve any particular mariadb version?
03:20 volve I'm happy to give that another whirl
03:20 wizzycray nope, they haven't implemented the changes that break it in mysql 5.7
03:20 wizzycray (yet)
03:20 wizzycray there is a bug for the 5.7 problems I don't remember the number
03:20 volve ah, ok
03:21 wizzycray https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17258
03:21 huginn Bug 17258: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , [OMIBUS] MySQL 5.7
03:21 wizzycray also some suggested work arounds
03:21 volve well thank you wizzycray, I filed an issue for koha-docker, and will give mariadb a go with a fresh debian install
03:22 volve yep, I had to monkey with sql_mode to get past the installer, but at that point there were so many dupes in the database it was not usable and I gave-up, back to the docker situation
03:23 volve happy to hear mariadb will solve it
03:23 * volve gets typing
03:23 wizzycray good luck :)
03:23 wizzycray yeah, if you get yourself into that situation
03:23 wizzycray you can always koha-remove <the name of your instance>
03:23 wizzycray and start again
03:23 wizzycray and/or
03:23 wizzycray sudo koha-mysql <the name of your instance>
03:24 wizzycray drop database koha_the_name_of_your_instance
03:24 wizzycray create database koha_the_name_of_your_instance
03:24 wizzycray i mean, if you've got nothing in it
03:24 wizzycray none of that hurts.
03:24 wizzycray but yeah, mysql 5.7 is a bad deal atm
03:24 wizzycray but we're working on it :)
03:25 volve who updates the Koha_on_Debian guide? I would have loved a mariadb reference or mysql version not ;)
03:25 volve not/note
03:25 wizzycray you can :)
03:25 wizzycray it's a wiki ^.^
03:26 volve oh hey funny there's a note at the top "Koha does not work well with MySQL 5.7 which is shipped with Ubuntu 16.04. use MariaDB instead."
03:26 wizzycray keke
03:26 volve but not at the actually step for installing mysql, ha
03:26 wizzycray \o/
03:26 volve so clearly I missed it
03:26 wizzycray it's ok it happens
03:28 volve thanks for your help wizzycray, really appreciate it, hoping to get this deployed to a team of eager folks asap
03:29 wizzycray yep I know that feeling :)
03:29 wizzycray good luck
03:29 volve thanks!
03:29 wizzycray Europe should be waking up soon, should you run into any more problems
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03:35 volve right, right. Fun to think that koha-docker is running the Oslo Public Library
03:35 wizzycray they have got their own special sauce
03:36 wizzycray which is cool, but it is hard to support :)
03:36 volve so it would seem :D
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03:46 volve odd, `koha-create --create-db foo` says "User foo already exists."
03:46 volve on a brand new install
03:47 volve correction "User foo-koha already exists."
03:47 wizzycray is it the 2nd time you've done it?
03:47 volve nope
03:47 volve I gave it a different name and it's running fine now
03:48 wizzycray well yay :)
03:48 * wizzycray does not know of any bugs with naming things 'foo' in debian
03:49 volve well it wasn't really foo ;)
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05:10 irma hi rangi About the Article request function https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14610
05:10 huginn Bug 14610: new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Add ability to place article requests in Koha
05:10 irma would it help if we wrote the instruction for the Koha Manual 16.11?
05:11 irma nice feature!
05:13 irma @later tell rangi Do you need instructions re Article request for the KC Manual 16.11?
05:13 huginn irma: The operation succeeded.
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06:42 josef_moravec morning#koha
06:46 * magnuse waves
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06:52 drojf hi #koha
06:56 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
06:56 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -6.9°C (7:32 AM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
06:56 drojf oj
06:57 drojf @wunder marseille, france
06:57 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 15.0°C (7:30 AM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
06:57 drojf woop woop
06:59 liw @wunder helsinki
06:59 huginn liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -1.0°C (8:20 AM EET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
07:00 drojf hi liw
07:00 liw
07:00 drojf everywhere is warmer than here
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07:22 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:22 huginn cait: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
07:22 cait hmpf
07:26 magnuse moin drojf cait liw
07:26 magnuse @wunder enbo
07:26 huginn magnuse: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
07:26 magnuse @wunder bodø, norway
07:26 huginn magnuse: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
07:26 magnuse @wunder boo
07:26 huginn magnuse: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
07:26 magnuse :-(
07:27 magnuse drojf: it's about +6C here
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07:30 drojf hei magnuse
07:30 drojf nice!
07:30 magnuse yup, all the ice is gone
07:30 magnuse it's safe to walk outside again!
07:31 drojf i wonder if it's safe to walk on the canal close by
07:31 drojf i don't think we had much + lately
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07:33 reiveune hello
07:33 wahanui salut, reiveune
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07:34 marcelr hi #koha
07:37 drojf hi marcelr
07:37 marcelr hi drojf
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07:37 magnuse bonjour reiveune marcelr laurence
07:37 marcelr morning magnuse
07:37 LibraryClaire o/
07:37 marcelr and LibraryClaire
07:37 wahanui LibraryClaire is the monster under my bed
07:38 laurence hi magnuse
07:38 wahanui kamelåså
07:38 LibraryClaire hi magnuse
07:38 wahanui kamelåså
07:38 magnuse guten morgen LibraryClaire
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07:45 alex_a bonjour
07:45 wahanui hello, alex_a
07:46 LibraryClaire hi alex_a
07:49 alex_a hello LibraryClaire
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09:58 * cait waves
10:08 drojf hi cait
10:24 cait moin drojf
10:58 eythian hi
10:58 wahanui bidet, eythian
10:58 eythian @wunder ams
10:58 huginn eythian: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
10:58 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
10:58 huginn eythian: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
10:58 eythian :<
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11:33 drojf eythian: no weather for you
11:47 eythian drojf: apparently not.
11:48 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
11:48 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -1.8°C (12:08 PM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
11:48 drojf it's all mine
11:59 eythian give it back!
11:59 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
11:59 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 3.3°C (12:49 PM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
11:59 eythian that's better
12:00 eythian Snow outside is slowly melting
12:03 LibraryClaire @wunder konstany
12:03 huginn LibraryClaire: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
12:03 LibraryClaire stupid keyboards
12:03 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
12:03 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 3.2°C (12:49 PM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
12:04 eythian hah, 0.1° warmer!
12:26 magnuse @wunder enbo
12:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 6.0°C (1:00 PM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Rising).
12:26 magnuse phew
12:27 eythian I think you must have the wrong Norway, magnuse. It's supposed to be -20 all the time there.
12:27 magnuse lulz
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12:42 oleonard Hi everyone
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12:43 eythian hi oleopard
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12:49 drojf hi oleonard
12:49 wahanui hi oleopard
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13:34 Guest457 hello
13:34 edveal Hello
13:40 barton morning #koha!
13:40 edveal morning barton
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13:46 barton @later tell tcohen something to look at with koha-zebra: zebrasrv has a 1024K default ceiling on record size. This can be increased. We should probably set it in $KOHA_CONF, the same way we set loglevels.
13:46 huginn barton: The operation succeeded.
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14:10 kidclamp morning
14:11 marcelr hello kidclamp
14:11 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp
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14:16 marcelr drojf: did you test it, or only noting ?
14:17 marcelr no drojf
14:17 wahanui no drojf is afraid you will make me chair
14:17 marcelr o no he is on top
14:17 drojf marcelr: i built a package with master + the patches and used it to upgrade a vm
14:18 drojf so i am fairly certain it fixes it ;)
14:18 marcelr indirect test
14:18 marcelr good
14:18 drojf but i will use it in my vm now which was broken last week
14:18 drojf to confirm
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14:25 drojf marcelr: works. are the tests supposed to be done step by step or can i test with the package that has all patches?
14:27 drojf if i understand correctly, i can only test patch 3 and 4 in a regular debian installation
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14:41 tcohen morning
14:42 drojf hi tcohen
14:43 tcohen hi drojf
14:44 LibraryClaire hi tcohen
14:44 * tcohen 's car didn't start this morning, bad week start
14:46 cait :(
14:46 tcohen I couldn't be at the new house to open so the guys polished the new floor :-(
14:46 * LibraryClaire 's brain didn't start this morning
14:48 cait tcohen: can you explain the problem?
14:48 * oleonard waves to newly woken up peoples
14:49 tcohen cait: the car's problem?
14:49 tcohen is the injectors :-P
14:56 tcohen @later tell wizzycray I've been thinking about it recently. now that people have interest on it it might be worth talking about that
14:56 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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15:10 * oleonard is curious what tcohen was talking to wizzycray about
15:11 LibraryClaire ultimate stealth message
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15:14 tcohen "Sent 11 hours and 25 minutes ago: <wizzycray> maybe it's time to move devbox out from under digibib?"
15:14 LibraryClaire :D
15:14 tcohen she wrote it here earlier
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15:25 * tcohen is glad to see interest in kohadevbox and that more people contribute to it
15:29 cait tcohen: was wondering why polishing hte floor was bad :)
15:32 tcohen I had an appointment so they polished it, and I missed it
15:32 cait you wanted to watch them?
15:33 tcohen the house is empty, and no one is there to open the door!
15:33 tcohen it is outside Cordoba
15:33 tcohen far from where I liv
15:33 tcohen e
15:33 eythian if no one is there to open the door, how did they polish it?
15:34 * LibraryClaire slides across shiny polished floor
15:34 cait squeee!
15:34 tcohen no one polished it
15:35 cait (15:46:46) tcohen: I couldn't be at the new house to open so the guys polished the new floor
15:35 cait ;)
15:35 * cait blames tcohen for getting everyone confused
15:36 * LibraryClaire is sad there is no polished floor to slide on
15:36 * tcohen thinks the missing comma makes it clear and you are wrong
15:36 tcohen :-P
15:36 eythian you definitely said multiple times that they polished it :)
15:37 tcohen eythian: probably due to my lack of idiomatic checker
15:37 eythian you should install one
15:38 eythian the particular tense you needed is actually called "the unreal past" apparently. That's a good name.
15:53 tcohen eythian: troll
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16:12 reiveune bye
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16:14 drojf dependencies--
16:18 cait not me i hope? drojf?
16:18 drojf nope
16:18 drojf catmandu
16:18 wahanui well, catmandu is pretty super awesome
16:19 drojf i think the dependencies of dependencies require perl 5.24 :/
16:21 cait oh
16:21 cait ouch
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16:49 volve hey all, if I have an old framework, but no signs of it in the UI, how can I make sure I nuke it from the database without losing everything else?
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17:16 oleonard volve: What do you mean by no signs of it in the UI?
17:17 volve oleonard: turns out that the digibib/koha-docker create a mysql trigger that tries to set frameworkcode to "DCHM" on any new records. I deleted this trigger becauase I don't have any frameworks with code of "DCHM", and all seems well now. I was able to add a record successfully.
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17:21 drojf oleonard: are you working with visual diffs for web development?
17:21 oleonard drojf: I don't think I understand your question
17:22 drojf oleonard: i am talking of things like
17:22 oleonard Neat. I've never seen that before. So I guess the answer is no
17:23 drojf heh. ok. my office colleague has been looking into that and i was wondering if it would be useful for koha
17:24 oleonard I suspect we do less cross-browser/cross-platform testing than we should, but I also don't think pixel-perfect matching is necessary
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17:24 drojf i was more thinking of things like accidentally breaking the layout
17:29 oleonard drojf: If your colleague ends up trying something like it I'd be interested to hear how it goes
17:35 * cait waves
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17:36 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
17:36 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 26.0°C (2:00 PM ART on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
17:51 tcohen drojf: kohadevbox gets Catmandu installed by CPAN on Jessie
17:51 drojf tcohen: yuck
17:51 drojf :P
17:51 tcohen I mean, it is using Perl 5.20
17:52 drojf i think it's the packaging for stretch. i found one dep that did not really need perl 5.24 and works fine with a lower version. i assume that works for others too
17:53 drojf but it's more than i can do today, which is annoying. i thought i could get it done to the point where i set up a test repo
17:53 tcohen when is strech released?
17:54 drojf good question. i think they had freeze already
17:54 drojf but it's debian, so maybe it takes years after that :P
17:55 tcohen so we are still targeting Jessie :-D, good
17:55 drojf yes
17:55 JesseM no targeting me  ;P
17:55 drojf i don't think it would be fair to drop jessie now :P
17:55 drojf heh
17:56 tcohen heh
17:57 drojf at least most of it is in stretch now, so it's backporting, not doing all the packaging from scratch
17:57 drojf but i had enough for today
17:57 * drojf heads home
17:58 drojf bye #koha
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19:43 cait @wunder Konstanz
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19:43 huginn cait: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 2.9°C (7:46 PM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
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20:15 eythian @wunder ams
20:15 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 3.0°C (8:55 PM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
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23:18 oleonard Hi again for this day.
23:19 oleonard Anyone awake? I seek the secret of a root mysql user in kohadevbox.
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23:29 cait oleonard: try empty
23:29 cait mysql -u root
23:30 oleonard Cool, thanks cait
23:30 cait np :)
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