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hi friends at koha |
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mig |
need help in migrating to koha from excel |
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mig |
i am using marcedit |
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mig |
when i gave a field mapping for accession number with field 0 as 541##$e |
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mig |
marcedit tells to gve subfields in 245 $a |
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mig |
what does it mean to do... |
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bonjour |
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mig |
hi all |
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mig |
any help |
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wahanui |
i think any help is appreciated ;) |
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hello |
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wahanui |
hey, reiveune |
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how good is using openrefine to convert data |
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hi Koha community! do we have a meeting today? |
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hi schnydszch : i think you missed it |
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schnydszch |
I think so, i did not realized that 4:00 is 4:00 AM in our time |
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I only realized that now. Sorry |
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cait |
happy new year rocio :) |
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happy new year to you! thank you cait :-) |
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hi all |
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anybody there to help |
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hi |
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wahanui |
bidet, bahaa |
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bahaa |
Wayne appreciate benefited from this Chat |
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bahaa |
السلام عليكم |
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bahaa |
اكو واØد عربي |
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mig |
is there a free/opensource alternative to marcedit |
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mig |
wa alaikum assalaam bahaa |
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cait |
mig: sorry, not aware of one, but i think there might be other programs you can edit marc with |
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cait |
probably not with the same feature set |
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cait |
in Linux I have used this occasionally: https://galencharlton.com/blog[…]-marc-editor-vim/ |
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mig |
cait , i am using marcedit, when i gave a field mapping for accession number with field 0 as 541##$e marcedit gives a maping error |
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mig |
i have a spreadsheet converted to tab-limited text file with necessary fields in different columns |
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liw |
@wunder helsinki |
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cait |
for help with marcedit, better ask on its own mailng list |
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cait |
people here will probably not be able to help with such specific questions |
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cait |
but take a look at the koha manual for how to create items - I think 541 might not be correct |
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cait |
depending on what you try to do - is that your barcode/number for checkout? |
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magnuse |
@wunder enbo |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
liw wins |
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liw |
it's not a competition but if it were "winning" wouldn't be what I'm doing |
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ashimema |
@wunder stevenage, uk |
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ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is -1.0°C (9:37 AM GMT on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). |
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waves at ashimema |
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ashimema |
hi ciat |
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cait |
happy new year :) |
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magnuse |
liw: :-) |
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ashimema |
happy new year #koha |
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magnuse |
happy new year ashimema |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait |
and happy new year, liw too :) |
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it's snowing here, rather prettily |
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hi #koha |
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drojf |
in 16.05.05, when i add a MANUAL_INV type of fine, i get a checkout block, even though i set ManInvInNoissuesCharge to "don't include". is that a bug or am i doing something wrong |
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drojf |
ah it might be maxoutstanding |
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drojf |
hm no |
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drojf |
does not work for me in master either |
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kivilahtio |
Is there a reason why <elasticsearch> -config is not in the etc/koha-conf.xml? |
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kivilahtio |
can I add it there with a Bugzilla bug? |
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magnuse |
@wunder kautokeino |
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magnuse |
they had -42 last night |
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marcelr |
brrr |
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kivilahtio |
Where can I find the newest HEAD of elasticsearch development? |
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kivilahtio |
catalyst's git repo's elastic-branch was 1 months old |
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kivilahtio |
catalyst's git repo's elastic-branch was 11 months old |
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kivilahtio |
I need a new keyboard.. |
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marcelr |
maybe nothing happened after that. kivilahtio |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: could be. So you think most of the bugs are pushed to master and then extra development happens via Bugzilla? |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: just asking so I know where to contribute |
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marcelr |
i think so, but you could ask chris or a catalyst guy to be sure |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: ok. Thanks |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: looks like the install instructions in KohaDevBox are the correct ones and produce the newest version of ElasticSearch |
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kivilahtio |
+ assortment of Bugzilla bugs |
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marcelr |
k |
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eythian |
@wunder jordaan, ams |
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cait |
oh tropical |
11:22 |
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drojf |
bug 17850 |
11:22 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17850 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ManInvInNoissuesCharge does not seem to work |
11:22 |
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drojf |
i'd be happy to be proven wrong |
11:23 |
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drojf |
bonus bug, the german translation speaks of overdues in the "blocked" message |
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eythian |
cait: it's so tropical that the windchill actually makes it warmer! |
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cait |
i think kidclamp was workingon it |
11:24 |
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cait |
kivilahtio: they said something about update to 2.4 in the meeting yesterday |
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cait |
kivilahtio: maybe talk to kidclamp when he is around |
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cait: thanks. Bug 17255 seems to be about the upgrade |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17255 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+ |
11:25 |
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kidclamp |
I put the update of what I did top get things working on the bug |
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cait |
and there he is :) |
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kidclamp |
kivilahtio - I haven't played with facets yet, but will soon - the catalyst code will need rebasing onto master at some point too |
11:26 |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: do you know wo is working et Elasticsearch atm? |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: like who is paid to do so? |
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kidclamp |
I believe Catalyst - rangi and srdjan |
11:27 |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: so how is the catalyst-code different from what we have in master? |
11:28 |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: I recall there was two version. One which changed pretty much nothing, just runs elasticsearch together with Zebra |
11:28 |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: and one which replaces most of the old serach bits with elasticsearch? |
11:28 |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: and one which replaces most of the old search bits with elasticsearch? |
11:28 |
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kidclamp |
I am only aware of the first - elastic running beside zebra |
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kidclamp |
I think we need to get es running well next to sebra so we can compare for a while and tweak mapppings/relevance |
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kidclamp |
changes for 2.4 aren't too big, you can see here: http://git.catalyst.co.nz/gw?p[…]b0c4d186950174118 |
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kidclamp |
http://git.catalyst.co.nz/gw?p[…]2388cd926a7f96a11 |
11:29 |
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kidclamp |
second one, sorry |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: what we want is facets from Elasticsearch directly |
11:30 |
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kidclamp |
then there are other things to investigate once 2.x is working - like joubus patron search |
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kivilahtio |
I guess everybody wants ElasticSearch facets |
11:31 |
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kidclamp |
yes, just is a change to search reqeuest - we have to request 'aggregations' on the indexes we are faceting |
11:31 |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: ok. |
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kidclamp |
in theory it is simple - but haven't actually tried it yet |
11:31 |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: I read Mastering Elasticsearch a long time ago and getting facets wasn'tthat involved |
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cait |
i think the plan was to get 2.4 first and then build on top of that? |
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cait |
afaik there is no 'replacing version' - you might be thinking about how SOLR was done at first |
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kidclamp |
yeah, we had facets working, 2.x switches to aggregations and that is what we need to do |
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kivilahtio |
but cant remember much about the specfics any more |
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kivilahtio |
hi tcohen |
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cait |
we also need Zebra atm to provide Z39.50 and SRU |
11:32 |
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kivilahtio |
I am trying to catch up on Elasticsearch happenings and where the latest development head is going |
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kivilahtio |
cait: I am hoping it wouldn't be too difficult introducing SRU to Elasticsearch |
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kivilahtio |
there has to be a ready implementation somewhere already |
11:33 |
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cait |
can't tell, but sure is good not to try it all at once |
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cait |
but get things right this time step by step |
11:33 |
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cait |
otherwise I think we'd just end up with another Search.pm |
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kidclamp |
kivilahtio - pianohacker intended bug 13937 as a start to providing z39 via elastic |
11:35 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Add a Z39.50 daemon that can inject item status MARC subfields |
11:35 |
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kivilahtio |
kidclamp: why do we need to inject item statuses to z39.50? |
11:35 |
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kidclamp |
it needs tests |
11:35 |
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cait |
kivilahtio: I think because some external systems doesn't like that koha has not one but multiple fields to check for determining status |
11:36 |
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cait |
lost, damaged, on loan, restricted, etc. |
11:36 |
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kidclamp |
what cait said :-) |
11:36 |
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cait |
they want 'one field of truth' |
11:36 |
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kidclamp |
they want one field |
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kivilahtio |
ok |
11:36 |
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cait |
so the bug description is a bit misleading for starting an SRU :) |
11:36 |
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kivilahtio |
that is a bit ambivalent considering the arcance permutations of availability in Koha |
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kidclamp |
heh, the underlying concept is catching the z39 request and routing it/altering it as we want to |
11:37 |
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kidclamp |
does one thing - opens the door for others |
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eythian |
I remember writing the facets code for ES and then reading a few days later that it was deprecated. It was so annoying. |
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* cait |
sends ginger bread cookies |
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kivilahtio |
eythian: all we can do is our best :) |
11:40 |
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kivilahtio |
eythian: I am sure what you wrote is a good foundation to rebase |
11:41 |
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eythian |
I hope so, for all your sakes :) that said, I doubt that updating the code that's there would be particularly hard, it doesn't really doing anything too complicated (from memory: it's been about a year since I've looked at it.) |
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kivilahtio |
ok |
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kivilahtio |
Ill go back into turning Elasticsearch on on our new Ubuntu16.04 LXC-containers :) |
11:42 |
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eythian |
"doesn't really doing" ... I shouldn't be back from holiday ... |
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kivilahtio |
I'll see what I come up, already wriiting installer for makefile and found a bug in Makefile.PL :) |
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kivilahtio |
eythian: I need a holiday |
11:43 |
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eythian |
I recommend them |
11:43 |
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kivilahtio |
eythian: luckily fridays is a public holiday and wife left me home for the weekend and too the kid with her |
11:43 |
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kivilahtio |
I wonder what to play |
11:43 |
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kivilahtio |
maybe 7D2D :) |
11:43 |
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kivilahtio |
it is super cool |
11:44 |
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eythian |
I am in the worst country in Europe for public holidays :( |
11:45 |
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kivilahtio |
I have to wonder why in a state with free religion I am forced to have a vacation due to some religious event |
11:45 |
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kivilahtio |
Not all religions share the same dates |
11:46 |
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eythian |
there's exactly that conversation happening where I work at the moment: should it be OK to work easter and take the holiday off when you want in the next 6 months. |
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* eythian |
lunches |
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cait |
public holidays have the advantage of everything being closed |
11:48 |
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cait |
if you can move them as you want... someone probably has to keep shops open etc |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
11:48 |
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cait |
I'd prefer to keep the all is closed holiday and just ignore why it is one :) |
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kivilahtio |
hi oleonard |
11:48 |
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wahanui |
hi olé onard |
11:48 |
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cait |
hi oleonard :) |
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kivilahtio |
cait: that is a good point |
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cait |
hm more snow |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn` |
oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is -6.2°C (6:52 AM EST on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 9 am this morning to 3 am EST Friday... |
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drojf |
@wunder sxf |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is -2.0°C (12:20 PM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 2.5°C (12:42 PM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
12:26 |
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oleonard |
I added a minor followup to Bug 16239 which needs signoff if anyone is willing to look. |
12:26 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Upgrade Bootstrap in the staff client |
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oleonard |
I think we should push those patches as soon as possible to give lots of time for bugs to shake out |
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cait |
+1 |
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cait |
Joubu++ for noting where a bug originated from often - much easier to see what's needed and what not |
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oleonard |
Okay... weird question if anyone is awake. I'm working on a Mac today, accidentally hit CMD+F4 while in a Virtualbox Debian guest. This killed the GUI and took me to a debian login prompt. Did I lose my work, or can I get back to the GUI and continue somehow? |
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oleonard |
Never mind I think I got it |
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Joubu |
@later tell rangi the certificate for bugs needs to be renewed |
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huginn` |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
Joubu: just left him a Twitter DM too |
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cait |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: Quote #239: "slef: man cannot live by beer alone. But it's fun to try!" (added by wizzyrea at 10:54 AM, April 03, 2013) |
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oleonard |
"man cannot live by beer alone" [citation needed] |
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drojf |
heh |
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* drojf |
got snow |
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drojf |
a lot of it |
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wahanui |
i guess a lot of it is just making sure we get our books back |
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drojf |
@wunder sxf |
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drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is -3.0°C (3:20 PM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Rising). |
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Is there a good way to verify that ansible installed correctly on a Mac? I got some warnings about directory ownership when I installed. |
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oleonard: does it work? that seems like a good way to test :) |
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oleonard: I recommend installing the pip packages under user root |
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kivilahtio |
not as sudo pip install |
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kivilahtio |
but sudo su |
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kivilahtio |
pip install |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
salut, tcohen |
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tcohen |
marcelr: around? |
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marcelr |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
quick question |
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marcelr |
yes |
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tcohen |
how is the Koha::Upload-ed files |
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tcohen |
cleanup done |
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marcelr |
superb |
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marcelr |
:) |
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marcelr |
patches are simple to read |
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tcohen |
my question is about temporary files |
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tcohen |
the patches seem simpĺe, i'm testing them |
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marcelr |
i have few extra bugs about temp uploads, you saw them? |
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tcohen |
nope |
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marcelr |
let me see |
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marcelr |
bug 17669 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17669 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Add purging temporary uploads to cleanup_database |
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marcelr |
bug 17777 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17777 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , koha-remove should deal with temporary uploads |
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marcelr |
those two |
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tcohen |
ok |
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marcelr |
the cleanup is pref based (number of days before purging) |
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marcelr |
appreciate your testing; just ask if you see something strange |
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oleonard |
Thanks kivilahtio, I took eythian's suggestion first so I didn't get to try yours |
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morning |
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oleonard |
Hi bag |
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bag |
hiya oleonard |
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bye |
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morning |
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morning |
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tcohen |
hi rangi |
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oleonard |
tcohen I have a kohadevbox question if you have a moment |
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tcohen |
only half a moment, but shoot |
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oleonard |
I'm setting it up on my mac for the first time and I'm finding that it doesn't seem to be making changes the hosts file. Shouldn't it? |
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tcohen |
it only changes /etc/exports if I recall |
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tcohen |
if you want name-based access you need to do it yourself |
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tcohen |
sudo vim /etc/hosts |
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oleonard |
Okay thanks |
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tcohen |
i have 127.0.0.1 kohadev on my hosts file |
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tcohen |
and kohadev-intra |
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is checking |
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tcohen |
and tweaked vars/user.yml |
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tcohen |
have to run |
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tcohen |
bye! |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu http://git.koha-community.org/[…]hea.git;a=summary |
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huginn` |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]%20Infrastructure |
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huginn` |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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