IRC log for #koha, 2016-11-01

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11:49 oleonard Hi all
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11:52 LibraryClaire hey oleonard
11:52 wahanui oleopard
11:52 LibraryClaire B-)
11:53 oleonard Beware the oleopard
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12:21 tcohen morning
12:21 * kidclamp waves
12:21 tcohen hi kidclamp
12:21 kidclamp hi tcohen
12:21 * oleonard makes noises in the kitchen so that people know he's here
12:21 tcohen hehehe
12:22 * kidclamp hopes oleopard is making bacon pancakes
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12:24 cait :)
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12:40 rsantellan good morning #koha
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12:43 tcohen hi rsantellan Joubu
12:44 tcohen Joubu: regarding a lower level function for filtering
12:44 tcohen we were waiting for Koha::Biblio to shape up
12:45 tcohen the idea was to just replace the current controller code with the recordprocessor call
12:46 tcohen @later tell drojf any news on Data::Session packaging possibilities?
12:46 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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12:56 agoforth I just upgraded my Koha installation from (I think) 16.05.02 to 16.05.05 via the Debian PPA. When doing the database update step, I got a couple of error messages:
12:57 agoforth I'm not sure if I can safely ignore the errors or if I need to do something. Can anyone help me?
12:58 cait taking a look
12:59 cait the duplicate system preference is harmless
12:59 cait i am not usre about the second one
12:59 cait is it possible you are missing a dependency?
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13:05 agoforth lists some that I'm missing, so I could try installing those.
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13:12 cait i am not sure about the isbn one - maybe try and figure out which update htis was related to if you can
13:19 Joubu tcohen: Do you want me to rebase the Data::Session patch now or it's not urgent?
13:19 tcohen it is not urgent, we need mirko to confirm
13:19 tcohen i will rebase it once mirko packages Data::Session
13:21 Joubu k
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13:30 andreashm tcohen, around?
13:30 tcohen hi
13:31 tcohen andreashm: whatsup
13:31 andreashm tchoen: Have you got any idea why my install of Kohadevbox fails? Ansible stops at Apache MPM fix.
13:31 * cait waves
13:31 andreashm hey cait
13:32 andreashm (I had problems with git, so deleted my devbox and tried a clean, new install)
13:32 andreashm new problems though.
13:33 tcohen maybe you can share a screenshot?
13:33 tcohen I just started my devbox and no errors so far
13:34 andreashm sure, hold on
13:36 andreashm
13:37 andreashm from what I can tell, it might be a problem with my Apache. But have been unable to fix it.
13:38 Joubu andreashm: vagrant ssh then install/enable it
13:40 andreashm joubu: and then redo the --provision?
13:40 Joubu yes
13:43 andreashm ok, I'll try
13:54 cait Joubu: hm just tested bug 11592 without your patch - it seems to work without it on the detali pages, but not on the result list
13:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11592 major, P3, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility
13:54 tcohen cait: MARC (sub)field visibility is not related to indexing
13:54 cait just wanted to make sure
13:54 cait but it doesn't work
13:54 tcohen maybe we missed a place in which to filter
13:54 cait not on the resul tlist at least, the detail view an dmarc views work
14:02 tcohen cait: fill a bug for that
14:02 tcohen damn
14:02 cait hm?
14:02 cait i think it might be what elaine filed already
14:03 tcohen C4::Search::searchResults is not patched to filter
14:03 Joubu cait: staff detail, I hide 245$h for both opac&staff
14:03 Joubu and 245$h was displayed
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14:03 cait bug 17527
14:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17527 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , 245 $h Medium - hidden settings in MARC framework don't work correctly
14:03 Joubu with my patch, it was no longer displayed
14:03 cait ah
14:03 cait did you check the result list? i only checked the opac
14:03 cait sec
14:03 tcohen ah
14:03 tcohen Joubu did what needs to be done
14:03 tcohen good catch Jonathan
14:03 tcohen :-D
14:04 Joubu no, only detail page, but should work for all the xslt
14:04 andreashm back.
14:04 cait you are right, the detail page in staff is broken too
14:05 andreashm I keep getting logged out for some reason.
14:05 andreashm Thanks joubu, got it to work.
14:05 cait so only works on opac detail? but why?
14:05 cait as things are i think it shouldn't work there either?
14:05 tcohen cait: no
14:05 tcohen because had the Koha::RecordProcessor call on its own
14:06 cait ah
14:06 tcohen and so opac-marc*.pl etc
14:06 cait hm
14:06 tcohen what
14:06 Joubu we should have a GetFilterMarcBiblio or something
14:06 Joubu ed*
14:07 tcohen Joubu: nah
14:07 tcohen Koha::Biblio->as_marcxml($interface)
14:07 tcohen Koha::Biblio->as_html($interface)
14:07 Joubu yes
14:08 tcohen or whatever someone willing to refactor all the searchResults mess wants to
14:08 Joubu but sometimes you want the full record
14:08 Joubu for editing for instance
14:08 edveal yes joubu
14:08 tcohen ah, got it
14:08 Joubu edveal: yes what? :)
14:08 tcohen Koha::Metadata::Record->raw
14:09 edveal sorry my notifier when off when you said ed* LOL
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14:13 cait tcohen: Joubu: should i test the patch? or are you looking for antoher solution?
14:14 tcohen I like Joubu's patch, it just needs a followup that removes filtering on the controller scripts IMHO
14:14 tcohen and we should get rid of non-XSLT so we don't need to discuss about it on this context :-P
14:15 cait did we discuss it? :)
14:16 oleonard Bug 12561
14:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12561 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Deprecate non-XSLT detail and result views
14:17 oleonard Four bugs blocking that
14:18 eythian @wunder jordaan ams
14:18 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 13.5°C (3:17 PM CET on November 01, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
14:18 Joubu tcohen: I already LOVE bug 17529 ;)
14:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17529 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add a --with-records option to
14:20 cait hm my staff page just exploded Can't locate Business/  - new dependency? but i thought we already had that one forever
14:21 cait ah, issn
14:22 cait all good.
14:25 tcohen Joubu++
14:26 cait tcohen: i love the dbic shortcut
14:26 cait on kohadevbox
14:27 * tcohen is glad to hear that
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14:33 sdfasdf asdfasf
14:37 oleonard I will be forever moved by sdfasdf's contribution.
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14:46 Joubu tcohen: koha-shell -c does not propagate the error code, it's not convenient to script :-/
14:46 Joubu is it expected?
14:47 liw oleonard, I found it to be a tad dry, even somewhat qwert
14:51 cait :)
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14:54 cait oleonard: can you say 'no longer renewable' ?
14:55 oleonard Yes
14:56 cait thx!
15:04 tcohen Joubu: I haven't touched koha-shell
15:04 tcohen but sounds problematic, yeha
15:20 cait tcohen: i am testing bug 17274
15:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17274 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add info about which memcached config is used to
15:20 cait i have activated plack and now the memcached status remains unknown
15:20 cait is that to be expected?
15:21 cait becore i activated plack i had green and red with stopping and starting memcached, so that seemed ok
15:34 Joubu cait: you need to restart memcached after you enabled plack
15:34 cait i did
15:34 cait several times
15:34 cait sudo service memcached restart
15:34 Joubu ha, and still "unknown"?
15:34 cait yeah :(
15:34 cait restarted plack several times too
15:34 Joubu kohadevbox?
15:34 wahanui hmmm... kohadevbox is at
15:34 cait yes
15:34 Joubu let me check
15:34 cait i just wrote a comment too about what i did
15:35 cait https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=17261#c21
15:35 huginn Bug 17261: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Add memcached configuration info to
15:37 Joubu the patch does not apply for me
15:37 Joubu ha, deps
15:37 Joubu hum, the apply on cascade does not work if the dependent bug is fqa
15:38 cait hm?
15:38 cait are you on the right bug?
15:39 cait the dependencies are all pushed for bug 17261
15:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Add memcached configuration info to
15:39 Joubu I was on 17274
15:41 cait that owuld have been my next :)
15:42 kidclamp @later tell matts can you rebase 15503
15:42 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
15:43 tcohen cait: do u have memcached enabled? :-D
15:43 cait it said so before
15:44 cait i will turn off plack again sec
15:44 tcohen remember memcacehd needs to be running BEFORE plack is started
15:44 cait i restarted both in various orders
15:45 cait that's with plack disabled
15:45 cait Servers:                              |                     Namespace: koha_kohadev                                 |                     Status:                                                                       running.
15:45 tcohen ah}
15:45 tcohen are you runing koha-plack --enable on your tests?
15:45 tcohen are you using koha-plack --restart too
15:45 tcohen ?
15:47 cait i did waht is said on the comment
15:47 cait but yes, i tried restarting plack too
15:47 * cait restarted all the things
15:48 tcohen ok
15:48 tcohen fail it then
15:51 cait hm I did :(
15:51 Joubu works for me :-/
15:51 Joubu just let a comment
15:51 cait hm
15:52 cait Joubu: devbox too?
15:52 Joubu yep
15:53 cait :(
15:53 cait i will try again
15:53 cait it reports running now
15:54 cait uknown :(
15:55 cait i got no idea what i am doing differently
15:55 Joubu khall: pleeeaaase push followup from bug 14874
15:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14874 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Add ability to search for patrons by date of birth from checkout and patron quick searches
15:55 khall will do Joubu!
15:56 Joubu cait: it's unknown then you refresh and it's ok?
15:56 cait no
15:56 cait it just remains unknown
15:56 cait i can't et it to change once i turn on plack
15:57 cait always only unknown with Plack
15:57 tcohen cait:
15:57 tcohen can u paste your koha-conf.xml entry?
15:58 tcohen for memcached?
15:58 tcohen because once you koha-plack --restart kohadev
15:58 tcohen it should show what's in it
15:58 cait ok - i didn't change that i think, one sec
15:58 cait it does without
15:58 cait but not with it
15:59 cait actually, where do i have to look for the file in kohadevbox?
15:59 tcohen search for memcached
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16:00 cait i meant the koha-ocnf
16:00 Joubu vim $KOHA_CONF as koha_kohadev
16:00 tcohen ah
16:01 tcohen my fault
16:01 cait there is no memcached
16:01 tcohen if you are using KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH vagrant UP
16:02 cait hm yes i do
16:02 tcohen you are getting kohadevbox's
16:02 cait or more, i thikm it's still active in the config file
16:02 tcohen which is wrong
16:02 tcohen old
16:02 tcohen please
16:02 tcohen add this to your /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml file
16:03 tcohen <memcached_servers>localhos​t:11211</memcached_servers>
16:03 tcohen <memcached_namespace>koha_ko​hadev</memcached_namespace>
16:03 cait can you please paste?
16:04 cait why does it show this configuration with plack disabled?
16:04 cait if it's not there?
16:05 Joubu in ENV maybe?
16:05 tcohen that's because of how tricky our packages setup is :-D
16:05 tcohen yes, it is because the packages set stuff on apache
16:05 cait paste?
16:05 wahanui rumour has it paste is found at
16:05 tcohen but plack doesn't get that information
16:05 tcohen from apache
16:06 tcohen cait: what do u want me to paste?
16:06 cait the xml
16:07 cait i got it
16:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14874: (followup) Fix typo introduced in sysprefs.sql <[…]39a81472ea796c3fc>
16:08 tcohen cait, I'm fixing kohadevbox right now
16:08 cait ok, got running now with plack :)
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16:12 cait tcohen: i am going to fix a missing space
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16:20 cait tcohen: i passed, can you help me test the follow up bug?
16:20 cait hm
16:20 cait bug 17274 says now:
16:20 cait Config read from:                                                  Nowhere  Note that the right place to define the memcached config is in your  $KOHA_CONF file. Currently you do not have a valid memcached  configuration defined.
16:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17274 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add info about which memcached config is used to
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16:25 Joubu did you restart plack since you apply the last patch?
16:25 Joubu ied
16:32 cait sec
16:32 cait thought i did, but double chekcing
16:33 cait that was it, sorry
16:33 Joubu when perl code is changed, you need to restart plack
16:34 cait can i get quick help on how to do this? 'Define the memcached config in ENV and $KOHA_CONF'
16:35 Joubu In plack.psgi, add $ENV{MEMCACHED_SERVERS} = "localhost:11211"
16:36 Joubu and for the KOHA_CONF, you did it. `grep memcached_servers $KOHA_CONF` should return the localhost:11211 value surrounded by the memcached_servers tag
16:38 cait plack.pgsgi is a perl file?
16:38 Joubu yes
16:38 Joubu /usr/share/koha/bin/plack/koha.psgi
16:39 Joubu (and restart plack, to make it re-read the psgi file)
16:40 cait thx
16:40 cait it worked
16:49 Joubu bye #koha
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17:55 tcohen git status
17:55 wahanui git status is a-ok
18:49 rangi morning
18:56 oleonard Hello and goodbye rangi!
19:01 cait morning
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19:15 rsantellan One question about the value builder plugin, from where it takes the different types of materials? The combo box is empty on my installation
19:16 cait hm i thin it's an xml file
19:16 cait are you using a translation?
19:17 rsantellan yes, I'm using spanish
19:17 cait tr if it's empty for english too
19:18 rsantellan where the xml is located?
19:20 cait in the template directory somewhere
19:20 cait it's translated
19:22 rsantellan this one: ./koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog​/en/data/marc21_field_008.xml ?
19:23 cait yep
19:23 cait it should exist in es-ES too
19:25 rsantellan thanks I will debug why is not showing nothing at all
19:36 rsantellan cait: The iframe tries to load the xml from:[…]c21_field_008.xml
19:37 rsantellan and is not found, what should be the correct url?
20:04 rsantellan I have found that the variable themelang on C4:Templates is set to default instead of prog
20:04 rsantellan how can I change that?
20:07 cait check your systempreferneces
20:07 cait my guess is something was changed there maybe?
20:07 cait there was never a default theme
20:08 cait look for theme or template with the search
20:08 rsantellan it takes the value from: __PACKAGE__->mk_accessors(qw( theme activethemes preferredtheme lang filename htdocs interface vars));
20:09 rsantellan On template I have  prog
20:10 rsantellan but it still takes deafault
20:10 cait try to change and resave it
20:10 cait it might not show what's in the database because of the pull down
20:11 rsantellan yep, on the db is default and saving it didn't affect it
20:11 rsantellan I'll manually change it
20:12 rsantellan now it works
20:12 rsantellan thanks!
20:15 eythian @later tell rangi just heard the brewer of 't Uiltje butcher waimea and kohatu (the hops in "caution kiwi crossing" :)
20:15 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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20:16 rangi heh
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20:55 rsantellan good night #koha!
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21:17 boulderjcc Hi, I work at the Boulder JCC and we used Koha for our library software. The person who used to be in charge of handling this system left, and now we have no way of logging on. Is this something that you could help me with?
21:18 rangi only if you have sudo access on the server Koha is installed on
21:20 boulderjcc I have access to her old email account. Is there some sort of way to reset password?
21:21 wizzyrea what are you trying to do?
21:21 boulderjcc log in
21:21 wizzyrea (what are you trying to log into - the server, the interface...)
21:23 wizzyrea because the answer for those things is different
21:23 rangi getting access to the server is way more important than a koha login, if they come back, we should tell them to contact whoever looks after the server
21:24 wizzyrea ya
21:24 wizzyrea they may not know there's a difference
21:24 rangi yeah
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21:27 wizzyrea bag, about?
21:28 bag yes
21:29 bag que pasa wizzyrea
21:29 bag ah I see it now
21:32 bag cool mario is calling them :)  hopefully we can get them straightened
21:32 rangi sweet
21:33 wizzyrea awesome
21:33 wizzyrea bag++
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22:58 tcohen hi
22:58 tcohen @seen mtompset
22:58 huginn tcohen: mtompset was last seen in #koha 1 day, 3 hours, 22 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: * mtompset begins his chauffeur duty.
22:58 tcohen dcook: around?
23:00 bag hola tcohen
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23:08 tcohen any windows user?
23:13 wizzyrea what's your question caller
23:13 wizzyrea (I have windows VM's for most IE's from
23:13 wizzyrea (But I don't "use" it, strictly speaking)
23:14 tcohen i'm about to patch kohadevbox so SYNC_REPO works for windows users
23:14 tcohen wanted someone to test it
23:14 tcohen :-D
23:14 wizzyrea oh. Pass.
23:14 tcohen :-P
23:14 wizzyrea SORRY.
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