IRC log for #koha, 2016-09-26

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03:39 mario .
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05:45 * rkrimme1 waffles
05:46 dcook Mmm waffles
05:47 magnuse waffles!
05:47 wahanui waffles are good
05:47 magnuse indeed
05:48 * dcook just had arancini for lunch. Yummmm
05:48 dcook I also apparently have lunch after 3pm >_>
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06:51 magnuse dcook: stuffed rice balls which are coated with bread crumbs and then deep fried?
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06:52 reiveune hello
06:52 wahanui kia ora, reiveune
06:53 chris1 @magnuse so, I was not the only one who paid Wikipedia a visit
06:53 huginn chris1: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
06:53 magnuse chris1: nope :-)
06:53 magnuse @wunder boo
06:53 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 15.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
06:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 16.6°C (8:50 AM CEST on September 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
06:54 magnuse hah!
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07:24 gaetan_B hello
07:24 wahanui privet, gaetan_B
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08:19 drojf morning #koha
08:20 eythian hi drojf
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11:43 oleonard Hi all
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12:21 magnuse kia ora oleonard
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12:32 tcohen morning!
12:40 tcohen sublime
12:41 tcohen is there a medical condition to 'always have focus problems when typing commands'?
12:41 druthb dunno what the doctors might call it tcohen, but I just blame cait.
12:42 tcohen hahaha+}
12:43 * oleonard posts a sign which reads, "It has been [ ] days since someone accidentally typed a password here"
12:43 tcohen I use two monitors, and one of them has the IRC client fullscreen
12:43 tcohen when I switch desktops
12:44 tcohen it usually grabs the focus
12:44 tcohen so, probaly cait's fault
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13:03 tcohen Joubu: around?
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13:40 oleonard Did I kill the React discussion with my overly long reply? I was hoping to focus the conversation, not end it.
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13:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2389: (followup) Add documentation and fix use case <[…]551b455095cb910e5> / Bug 2389: Add --test switch to <[…]de06291531a7d5757>
13:59 tcohen jajm: what is the status of your plugins enhancement?
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14:04 jajm tcohen, untouched since the last time i talked about it, and i think i won't have time to work on it soon
14:05 jajm tcohen, the code is here[…]s/koha-module-poc
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17:48 reiveune bye
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18:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17327: (QA followup) Remove Carp::Always which is not used <[…]916255db23709aa8d> / Bug 17327: Item level holds no longer enforced <[…]91ea226a407420a0b> / Bug 17327: Add unit test for regression <[…]oha.git;a=commitd
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18:38 Bastian2 hi, I'm trying to setup Koha with a SQLite database on raspbian. What changes need to be done to use the SQLite instead of the MySQL database? Any help is very apreciated.
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18:47 tcohen Bastian2: i don't think that's an easy task
18:48 tcohen but i don't keep track of Koha's mysql-isms myself, so I have no clue
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18:57 Bastian2 tcohen: Ok, thanks for the quick reply. Then I'll try the installation using MySql and check the performance
18:57 tcohen it should be better (the performance)
18:57 rangi yeah, its not really the mysqlism that will get you
18:58 tcohen but it could get problematic regarding resources
18:58 tcohen hi rangi
18:59 drojf evening
19:01 * cait waves
19:06 tcohen hi drojf
19:06 tcohen drojf++
19:09 drojf hi cait and tcohen
19:09 drojf and rangi
19:11 Bastian2 tcohen: I think you're right. I just added another language and it took several minutes to complete. I'll walk through the basic setup and check if it's "usable"
19:28 rangi drojf: I started on packaging libwebservice-ils-perl
19:28 rangi[…]
19:28 rangi in prep for https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16034
19:28 huginn Bug 16034: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Integration with OverDrive Patron API
19:34 Bastian2 installation on Raspi2 is possible but i'd say it's not usable. Everything takes very long. So I think I'll install it on a VM or an older PC. Thanks again
19:42 drojf rangi: cool. i hope i get to the ES packaging in marseille. too much to do atm
19:44 rangi i hear that
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20:19 drojf good night #koha
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21:44 wizzyrea I"m a bit sad actually that you can't currently run koha well on a pi
21:45 rangi not sure if they had plack on
21:45 rangi but yeah, its sure as hell a lot heavier than it used to be
21:45 rangi the price of db independence is speed
21:46 rangi and 'cleaner' code often = slower too
21:46 rangi ie, we've done a lot of making it easier for developers the last few releases, we probably need to stop focusing on that
21:46 rangi and actually make it better for users
21:46 rangi we have 15k of them ... we owe them that
21:49 wizzyrea all of that.
21:50 wizzyrea We need a Koha codename Tron.
21:50 wizzyrea "The release that fights for the users"
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22:17 tcohen hi
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22:25 CrispyBran flabblast
22:25 wahanui That is the coolest word!
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23:02 dcook rangi: 15k?
23:02 dcook I figure when we take into account all the people using each instance, the number of users must be rather high
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23:07 library Hello, I'm having trouble getting Koha to search using Z39.50. I have verified I'm using the correct server information using yaz-client. Is this the correct place to ask?
23:09 wizzyrea sure, go ahead
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23:16 dcook library: What's the trouble exactly?
23:17 dcook Screenshots and error messages are often helpful :)
23:18 pastebot "library" at pasted "Z39.50 search problem" (130 lines) at
23:19 library I'm using Koha on Linux Mint 18. My database is set up correctly, and I can manually add MARC records, but the "add by Z39.50" link always returns 0 results. http://paste.koha-community.or[…]bmit=Format+it%21
23:20 library There are no error messages. I'll get a screenshot.
23:20 dcook My guess would be that your Z39.50 servers aren't set up correctly, but I'll give it a whirl on my Koha too
23:21 dcook Hmm, I just searched LOC for title "mashups" and I'm getting results
23:22 dcook What version am I on..
23:22 dcook 16.06
23:22 library
23:23 dcook cool
23:23 library here's my set-up
23:23 library
23:23 dcook library: Can you show me your search screen?
23:23 dcook cheers
23:23 library it's identical to my zoomsh setup, which does return results
23:24 dcook Hmm I hadn't tried the SRU one..
23:24 dcook Hmm works for me
23:25 dcook That certainly seems odd
23:25 dcook Is there anything in your Apache error logs?
23:26 library I checked, but no :-(
23:27 library I'll paste it to the paste server
23:27 dcook Hmm, without getting into the guts of the code, I'm not sure what else to check at this point
23:27 library I had the same issue with an earlier version on linux mint 17.3, and I gave up for a few months, now I'm back at it.
23:28 dcook Honestly, I've never used zoomsh. I prefer yaz-client. But I don't know if that would really help with anything..
23:29 dcook Let's see... zoomsh..
23:29 dcook That comes with the Perl modules I'm guessing
23:29 dcook Which suggests it's not a Perl dependency issue..
23:29 dcook Hmm
23:30 dcook Actually maybe zoomsh does come yaz..
23:30 dcook We should really have better Zebra info in Koha..
23:30 dcook Errr not just Zebra
23:30 dcook Search..
23:30 wahanui search is, like, for the patrons not the librarians
23:31 dcook I'm guessing that the innards of Koha must not like something about the records
23:31 library is there some log I can check?
23:31 dcook Just the Apache log I think
23:31 dcook Since Apache is what's executing the Perl script
23:32 dcook You could maybe look in your database
23:32 dcook To see if the records are being saved and Koha is just lying to you..
23:32 dcook Look at "select * from import_batches;"
23:33 dcook And "select * from import_records;"
23:33 dcook I doubt you'll see anything... but it's another idea
23:35 pastebot "library" at pasted "intranet-error.log" (3 lines) at
23:35 wajasu would the record need to be indexed?
23:35 dcook library: That looks promising
23:35 library this looks suspicious
23:36 dcook wajasu: Nope, that's not relevant here
23:36 dcook library: Yeah, that's weeird, but that is probably the issue
23:36 dcook Let's see... I see a "First impression" in my import_biblios
23:37 dcook I wonder...
23:37 dcook It might be a MySQL setting issue...
23:37 dcook I don't know why it's trying to insert a 0 for import_record_id
23:38 dcook Actually, I suppose that indicates there's probably a problem further back
23:38 dcook As I think it gets inserted into import_records before import_biblios
23:38 dcook And if it fails to go into import_records, maybe that's how you could get an import_record_id of 0..
23:39 dcook And that's why you have that foreign constraint failing as well..
23:39 dcook library: Are there any errors further up from there?
23:40 mtj hiya library, dcook
23:40 dcook yo mtj
23:41 dcook library: Also, are you seeing rows in import_batches?
23:41 library hmmm... you're right about import_records:
23:41 mtj hmm, perhaps drop/create your 'import_biblio' table library
23:42 mtj .. somehow its got a bit wonky, perhaps?
23:42 library dcook: yes in batches, empty set in records
23:42 dcook Hmm import_batches looks ok
23:42 dcook mtj: I think it's more an issue with import_records
23:43 dcook library: How do you mean an empty set?
23:43 dcook As in no results/
23:43 dcook ?*
23:43 library yes, sorry
23:43 dcook Hmm
23:43 mtj dcook: ah ok.. so drop/create that table too? :)
23:44 dcook Couldn't hurt I suppose
23:44 dcook library: is this a fresh install or an upgraded Koha?
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23:44 library Fresh install on a fresh install of linux mint 18
23:44 mtj ^ fix those errors, and you fix your z39 problem, i think
23:45 library I'll try dropping and re-creating those tables, but I have to go for tonight, sorry :-( Thank you for your help.
23:45 * mtj crosses fingers :)
23:45 dcook library: No worries. At least you're a bit closer to an answer!
23:45 dcook If you do look at code, look at and
23:45 mtj np, catch you next time library
23:46 library thanks, not strong on Perl, but I can try. Thanks again :-)
23:46 dcook ^_^

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