IRC log for #koha, 2016-08-23

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00:00 wizzyrea that was our challenge
00:01 jcamins Also, I need to find one that doesn't require drilling a hole in the wall, since the preferred location is directly over my ethernet run.
00:01 wizzyrea magazine racks might also work
00:04 jcamins I suppose I could also save space if I had some sort of loop that I attached to the wall to run the cables through. Then at least I could have the cables behind my desk when the tablets aren't there, and when they are, stack them in the corner.
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04:53 wizzyrea papa++ because he's awesome
04:53 Oak papa++
04:53 * Oak waves
04:54 Oak hello wizzyrea !
04:54 papa oh hi :)
04:54 Oak :)
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06:28 drojf morning #koha
06:29 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
06:29 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
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06:48 morgane hi #koha
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07:15 reiveune hello
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07:24 gaetan_B hello
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07:47 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:47 cait morning LibraryClaire, #koha
07:48 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire und cait
07:48 LibraryClaire hi cait, hi drojf :)
07:58 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
07:58 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 20.0°C (8:50 AM BST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
07:58 * LibraryClaire waits for the heat to begin
08:01 eythian hi LibraryClaire, cait, drojf, huginn
08:01 LibraryClaire hi eythian
08:01 eythian hi also reiveune, gaetan_B
08:01 eythian @wunder ams
08:01 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 20.6°C (10:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
08:02 eythian forecast for 30 today o.O
08:07 LibraryClaire same here
08:07 LibraryClaire and for tomorrow
08:07 eythian <-- this is hilarious
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08:28 * LibraryClaire wonders if cait has any muffins left...
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08:49 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:49 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
08:49 drojf "heatwave"
08:49 drojf @wunder txl
08:49 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 20.6°C (10:41 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
08:51 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
08:51 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 22.0°C (9:20 AM BST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
08:51 eythian @wunder ams
08:51 LibraryClaire slowly creeping up
08:51 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 22.4°C (10:47 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
08:51 eythian yep, same here
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10:46 akawa anyone has experience with koha-rfid? Id like to ask a few questions.
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11:02 drojf akawa: your chance to get an answer might be better if you just ask a question
11:12 cait LibraryClaire: sorry, all gone in minutes yesterday
11:12 LibraryClaire :'(
11:12 cait and hi drojf
11:12 * cait promises to bake more another time
11:12 LibraryClaire :D
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11:48 oleonard Hi #koha
11:53 LibraryClaire hi oleonard :)
11:59 * cait will never see oleonard the same way again
12:00 cait oh leopard...
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12:05 LibraryClaire :D
12:06 oleonard Soon I will be more leopard than man.
12:07 cait you shoud get you a leopard print outfit for marseille :)
12:07 LibraryClaire onesie
12:07 cait lol
12:07 cait with hoodie and ears?
12:08 LibraryClaire yes!
12:09 oleonard My official Koha patching outfit
12:09 LibraryClaire pics or it didn't happen
12:12 Joubu @later tell rangi from the release notes of 3.20.14 : "The branch for this version of Koha and future bugfixes in this release  line is 3.20.x. The last Koha release was 3.16.9, which was released on  March 29, 2015"
12:12 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:12 Joubu hum, same for 16.5
12:13 Joubu @later tell fredericd from the release notes of 16.5.3 "The branch for this version of Koha and future bugfixes in this release line is 16.05.x. The last Koha release was 3.22.8, which was released on June 24, 2016."
12:13 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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12:23 eythian @wunder ams
12:23 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 26.3°C (2:22 PM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
12:24 eythian sheer madness
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12:27 akawa @drojf You're right. The question is: Is is possible after a newly created book, to add some data of it in an RFID tag within koha?
12:27 huginn akawa: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
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12:34 oleonard The catalogers here just tried Rancor for the first time and are very excited
12:34 cait :)
12:34 cait i think we'd use it too... but we are missing the authority linking
12:35 * oleonard fears Rancor will be abandoned now that pianohacker isn't around to maintain it
12:35 nengard no no no no no
12:36 nengard someone has to pick it up
12:36 nengard don't let it die
12:36 nengard Koha needs it!!!!!
12:37 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
12:37 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 29.0°C (1:20 PM BST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
12:37 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
12:37 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 23.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
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12:43 tcohen bonjour
12:43 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:43 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 10.0°C (9:00 AM ART on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
12:45 nengard @wunder 78754
12:45 huginn nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 25.7°C (7:43 AM CDT on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
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12:45 marcelr hi #koha
12:45 * cait waves
12:46 * nengard waves
12:46 marcelr :)
12:46 tcohen hi cait nengard marcelr
12:46 marcelr hola tcohen
12:46 tcohen vagrant up & get a coffee
12:47 marcelr coffee!
12:49 LibraryClaire hi marcelr
12:49 marcelr hello LibraryClaire
12:49 LibraryClaire and hi tcohen
12:49 tcohen hey LibraryClaire
12:49 wahanui i heard LibraryClaire was the monster under my bed
12:49 oleonard Scary.
12:49 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
12:49 wahanui ouch!
12:50 LibraryClaire >:)
12:52 marcelr wahanui is a monster
12:52 Joubu marcelr: hi! I understand the security (bug 17110), but don't you think you should not extend it a bit to cover the use case I described?
12:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17110 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , Lower CSRF expiry in Koha::Token
12:52 marcelr Joubu: of course we can
12:53 Joubu marcelr: I agree it's hard to know what would be the best for the most common uses
12:53 marcelr well 24 hours then?
12:54 Joubu if you agree it's fine by me
12:54 marcelr just something similar is the very high value of the timeout pref
12:54 marcelr i reduced it to 4 hours
12:55 Joubu and why not to use the same value?
12:55 marcelr heh
12:55 Joubu it's a bit related
12:55 marcelr do you expect me to send a follow-up ?
12:55 marcelr for the csrf expiry only, i mean
12:55 Joubu not necessarily, I can write it
12:55 marcelr ok
12:56 Joubu I'd like to make sure we agree first :)
12:56 marcelr very good
12:57 Joubu tcohen: could you have a look at 17110 and tell use if you agree to set maxAge => pref('timeoutsomething')
12:57 Joubu s/use/us
12:59 marcelr Joubu: the default is very high, and you could extend 7 days to 4 months
13:00 marcelr or test if the pref is smaller than 7 days LOL
13:01 Joubu I thought you sent a patch to reduce the default value
13:02 marcelr no sorry i reduce this locally
13:02 tcohen Joubu: I don't understand the problemd domain :-DD
13:02 marcelr but could send a patch :_
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13:03 marcelr tcohen understands everything, i heard
13:04 Joubu MaxAge will invalidate token. the default is 7 days, which is too high
13:04 Joubu marcelr suggested to decrease it to 8 hours
13:05 Joubu I think 8 is too low, because of the use case I described on the bug (comment 3,4 or something)
13:05 Joubu so maybe the best would be to set it to the value of timeout pref
13:05 Joubu (too many discussions for a number)
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13:08 Joubu oleonard: let me check again the code of the discharges
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13:14 Joubu oleonard: I will PQA it, and see if we should remove the other check on another bug report.
13:15 marcelr Joubu: pick the minimum of timeout pref and 24 hours
13:18 oleonard Disappointing to hear Tim Spalding bad-mouth Koha and Evergreen. (around 20:00).
13:18 oleonard I guess I shouldn't expect otherwise.
13:19 tcohen Joubu: I agree on setting it to whatever the session timeout pref is set
13:22 drojf oleonard: patches welcome
13:23 oleonard Some people would prefer to develop and sell a competing product rather than contribute to something.
13:23 oleonard He must not have /really/ thought open source was going to change things if he never got involved.
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13:37 Joubu oleonard: on 17147 why did you decide to remove the "type" of message to display?
13:37 Joubu for instance ....
13:37 Joubu 1sec
13:37 oleonard I understand Joubu
13:37 Joubu great :)
13:38 oleonard The type was being used to change the style of the dialog. In my update the type is used to display a different icon instead
13:38 oleonard I thought that would allow the display to be more compact.
13:38 drojf oleonard: and "open source did not do whatever" is a cheap excuse to do proprietary junk
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13:41 kidclamp bug 16918 would be a nice thing to get in to master
13:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16918 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , is not running under plack
13:41 Joubu oleonard: there is something weird. If I select a template without action, I get the warning in the msg box, but not centered
13:41 Joubu it's text-align: left; padding-left: 25%;
13:42 oleonard Okay Joubu I will take another look
13:42 Joubu oleonard: do you want me to let a comment?
13:43 oleonard No I'll look right now
13:44 Joubu tcohen: you are cheating
13:45 tcohen i don't think so
13:45 Joubu you are author, and you qaed
13:45 tcohen i just did a qa followup
13:46 Joubu ;)
13:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17050: (QA followup) Use Mojo::Transaction to get the remote address <[…]15b4d3039d2a79c9e> / Bug 17050: Do not kick the session out when accessing the REST API <[…]26c798d603dae7d84>
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13:56 cait fredericd: around?
13:58 oleonard Joubu: What is the text of the error message which is displaying incorrectly?
13:59 Joubu oleonard: The selected template (id=11) does not exist or no action is defined.
14:07 Joubu oleonard: I think it's the same for other messages as well
14:07 oleonard Thanks. In this revision all errors are displayed in an unordered list which use icons as bullets. It looks a little odd when there is only one list item.
14:07 oleonard But the padding might need to be adujsted
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14:46 eythian @wunder ams
14:46 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 27.2°C (4:37 PM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
14:46 eythian why am I still inside?
14:47 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
14:47 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 30.0°C (3:20 PM BST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
14:47 LibraryClaire 45 mins til I go find pimms
14:48 oleonard @wunder 45701
14:48 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 24.6°C (10:48 AM EDT on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
14:50 LibraryClaire mind you, bed would also be nice
14:54 marcelr khall: please look at bug 14390 (again) thx
14:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14390 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Fine not updated from 'FU' to 'F' on renewal
14:58 * Joubu fell into the trap
14:59 marcelr careful Joubu
14:59 marcelr oh i see what you mean :)
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15:00 eythian LibraryClaire: yeah, I have plans to go biking a bit around the west part of the city followed by beers.
15:01 LibraryClaire eythian: sounds nice
15:02 drojf great picture in my head
15:02 drojf followed by beers
15:02 drojf are they on bikes?
15:02 Joubu :D
15:02 Joubu sounds scary
15:02 drojf or, tasty
15:02 eythian[…]t/Beer_bus(1).jpg
15:02 eythian sometimes, yes
15:03 Joubu Amstel light...
15:03 LibraryClaire light...
15:03 eythian Joubu: now you see the need to escape!
15:03 LibraryClaire hah
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15:08 drojf Joubu++
15:08 drojf why is the other paul on the dev list in the first place? :/
15:08 oleonard So that he can post messages like that, of course.
15:09 drojf ok, better than on the main list. i guess
15:09 drojf less chance to do damage
15:09 oleonard I wonder if he subscribes to other software-related mailing lists so that he can tell people not to upgrade there too?
15:09 drojf or… find somebody that takes him seriously
15:09 drojf he is a mysql hipster
15:09 drojf he only likes ancient koha i guess
15:09 drojf so that he has something to talk about
15:09 drojf it makes him special
15:10 francharb the demo was good
15:10 francharb ;)
15:11 drojf koha 3.8 with mysql 5.7
15:13 tcohen ha
15:22 drojf hm ok. 3.8.24 is only 26 months old. how many security fixes can we have had in that time
15:23 Joubu I wanted to list them, but... it could have scared him a bit
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15:31 drojf Joubu: do it! :D
15:31 Joubu drojf: I decided to dedicate my time to something useful indeed :)
15:33 drojf maybe we can crowdsource it. and send them one by one
15:33 LibraryClaire laters #koha
15:33 kidclamp bye LibraryClaire
15:43 gaetan_B bye
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16:02 fredericd cait: yes
16:03 cait there is a patch for fixing broken fine calculation
16:03 cait that i was hoping we could get into the maint release
16:03 cait it's bug 14390
16:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14390 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Fine not updated from 'FU' to 'F' on renewal
16:06 fredericd Ok. Do you mean you would like to get this patch into stable branch before it is pushed into master branch?
16:08 cait more to get it into this maintenance release maybe
16:08 cait not sure if we can make it work
16:08 cait the bug description is misleading
16:08 cait sec
16:09 cait what we are trying to do is fix bug 17135 there
16:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17135 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fine for the previous overdue may get overwritten by the next one
16:10 cait a problem that has been introduced more recently than the other bug
16:11 fredericd So it's a regression on 17.05 (bug 17135), which is bad
16:11 cait yes
16:12 cait caused by 15675
16:12 cait bug 15675
16:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15675 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add issue_id column to accountlines and use it for updating fines
16:12 cait I think we might need another day to figure things out as t looks like
16:13 cait I think tomas also sent an email about something related to the API
16:13 cait oh, i just relaized there is already a 16.05.03 - too late?
16:14 fredericd cait: Yes, you're correct about Tomas demand, but it's not that bad, from my perspective, since it isn't a regression. It's just about REST API
16:14 cait hm isn't it a security leak?
16:14 cait because the rest api is automatically activated I was told
16:14 cait i am still trying to understand it actually, i have added a few question to tomorrow's dev meeting actually
16:15 fredericd A mid-term 16.05.03 could be released in a week if necessary
16:16 fredericd Since when bug 17135 is there.
16:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17135 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fine for the previous overdue may get overwritten by the next one
16:17 cait ok
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17:05 kidclamp_webinar Joubu++
17:06 kidclamp that was a nice solution to that bug
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17:17 vbman213 greetings! I have a quick question concerning match rules and importing. I'm trying to migrate my school's old LibSoft MARC records into Koha. LibSoft includes the barcode as a 949$i field. I am having a hard time matching incoming records against current records by comparing the 949$i value
17:17 vbman213 I have a match rule with a threshold of 1, and one match point 949$i with a score of 1
17:22 drojf try score 2
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17:28 cait vbman213: in order to match there needs to be an index on the field
17:28 cait 949 is probably not indexed
17:28 cait for search
17:30 vbman213 is it possible to add fields to the index?
17:33 vbman213 I added a search field for 949i
17:34 vbman213 trying again
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17:36 vbman213 can search index be blank?
17:37 cait i am not sure, i have never treid it - maybe it falls back to a keyword search, but that's not usually waht you wnt
17:50 Joubu Can we deliberate add hidden features?
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17:54 Joubu I did on bug 17173...
17:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17173 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Quick edit a subfield in frameworks
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19:18 cait Joubu++
19:18 cait ... reading today's mailing list mails
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19:49 Chris_ Good day.  Can anyone assist with an issue I aM having with my koha?
19:49 kidclamp what's the issue Chris_?
19:49 Chris_ Staff members are not allowed to discharge borrowers, nor borrowers to request a discharge.
19:50 Chris_ this happens when I try to checkout aything
19:53 cait which version are you using?
19:53 Chris_
19:54 cait what happens when you checkout? a message is shown?
19:54 Chris_ yes
19:55 cait what does it say?
19:56 Chris_ Staff members are not allowed to discharge borrowers, nor borrowers to request a discharge.
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20:04 kidclamp Chris_ : https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16670
20:04 huginn Bug 16670: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , CGI->param used in list context
20:05 kidclamp it looks like a bug that is fixed in the next release
20:06 Chris_ Thanks let me check
20:12 cait ah sorry, got distracted (cooking dinner)
20:20 cait trying not to burn things
20:21 cait kidclamp++
20:22 tcohen @seen ashimema
20:22 huginn tcohen: ashimema was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 6 hours, 56 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <ashimema> took me a while to get down there ;)
20:26 rangi @later tell Joubu ahh yep thanks, ill fix that in the template for the next release
20:27 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:29 tcohen hi rangi
20:29 rangi heya tcohen
20:29 tcohen rangi: it seems tonight I'll be using my PS3 overnight until some dev meeting he
20:30 rangi heh
20:34 drojf tcohen: ithe problem is only[…]40a8ac0e361aa9f78 right?
20:34 tcohen exactly
20:34 drojf or are more commits relevant?
20:35 tcohen and the next one
20:35 wahanui the next one is from you: 4373
20:36 tcohen this:
20:36 drojf hm ok i think i will leave them out then for this one
20:36 tcohen
20:36 tcohen that's from the 16.05.x branch
20:36 drojf yes i have the same window open ;)
20:37 tcohen it's a pity
20:38 tcohen it is fixed by bug 14868, which needs to go the QA process
20:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14868 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, larit, Needs Signoff , REST API: Swagger2-driven permission checking
20:39 drojf next month :)
20:39 tcohen sure, I asked fredericd if he would backport it
20:39 tcohen otherwise we need patches for 16815
20:40 cait bug 16815
20:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16815 critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , API routes to list, create, update, delete holds need permissions
20:41 tcohen if he doesn't backport 14868 I'd vote to just revert the patches
20:42 * tcohen really likes that patchset
20:42 cait heh
20:42 cait qa it? :)
20:43 tcohen i started today
20:43 cait cool :)
20:43 tcohen i have doubts about several things
20:43 tcohen i'm not a swagger expert as others might be here
20:44 tcohen but the way it introduces permissions on the swagger file is really handy
20:44 tcohen maintainable
20:44 tcohen i really like it
20:44 tcohen anyway, things to talk later I guess
20:49 rangi @later tell joubu cherry-picked the commit over, thanks
20:49 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:56 tcohen later #koha
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21:11 drojf who would set 7 UTC as a meeting time? :/
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21:16 cait drojf: ?
21:16 cait weren't you there?
21:17 drojf cait: never!
21:17 cait believe what you want
21:18 drojf that's my style :D
21:25 wizzyrea hi'
21:28 cait hi wizzyrea
21:31 drojf hi wizzyrea
21:31 drojf and good night #koha
21:31 cait night drotsk
21:31 cait night drojf
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