IRC log for #koha, 2016-08-19

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03:31 wizzyrea @later tell cait for translating the home page, I guess I need a .mo file see[…]slation-homepage/
03:31 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:36 dcook wizzyrea:
03:37 wizzyrea hehe wut
03:37 dcook .mo... moe... moe...
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06:03 reza_ Hello, I have a problem with opac search.
06:03 reza_ It's incredibly slow! i have 8gb of memory with 8 core.
06:03 reza_ 148,133 biblioitems and running on Debian package Koha version 3.2209000 (just minor upgraded from 3.2204000). 45,097 borrowers.
06:03 reza_ yaz client search result:
06:03 reza_ Z> f linux
06:03 reza_ Sent searchRequest.
06:03 reza_ Received SearchResponse.
06:03 reza_ Search was a success.
06:03 reza_ Number of hits: 235, setno 3
06:03 reza_ SearchResult-1: term=linux cnt=235
06:04 reza_ records returned: 0
06:04 reza_ Elapsed: 0.000647
06:04 reza_ but when I use the opac to search it may take 40 seconds to show the results. Do you know what is the problem??
06:04 reza_ My uname: Linux lib 3.19.0-64-generic #72~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 24 17:59:48 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
06:04 reza_ anyone can tell me why is it so slow?
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06:55 morgane hi #koha !
06:58 * cait waves
06:58 cait :)
06:58 morgane hi cait :)
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06:59 drojf morning #koha
07:00 reza_ anyone can help?
07:05 Joubu Are you using plack? Is memcached correctly configured?
07:05 reza_ I didn't configure plack
07:06 Joubu you should
07:07 reza_ will it cause downtime during configuration?
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07:09 reza_ I've enabled the plack. but it's still the same :(
07:10 Joubu reza_: sudo koha-plack --enable your_instance; sudo koha-plack --restart your_instance; sudo service apache --restart;
07:10 Joubu you need to enable, restart plack then restart apache
07:11 Joubu last cmd is sudo service apache2 restart
07:12 reza_ i have done it. but the search is still very slow.
07:12 reza_ do i need to configure anything after enabling the plack?
07:12 Joubu reza_ how many results are returned by the search?
07:13 reza_ for the query "test result" 17438
07:13 Joubu try to change the value of use_zebra_facets in your KOHA_CONF file
07:13 Joubu configure memcached correctly
07:14 Joubu and that should be faster
07:14 reza_ what value should i change use_zebra_facets to?
07:15 reza_ 0 ?
07:15 Joubu yes
07:16 reza_ wow
07:16 reza_ it's a lot faster now 0_o
07:16 reza_ what was the problem!?
07:16 Joubu see bug 13665
07:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13665 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from zebra is slow
07:18 reza_ thank you very much :D
07:18 Joubu what is "a lot faster"?
07:19 reza_ less than 8 seconds
07:20 reza_ it was about 20 over seconds...
07:20 cait how many records do you have reza?
07:20 Joubu still slow IMO
07:20 cait yes
07:21 reza 148,133 records
07:22 reza Debian package Koha version 3.2209000
07:22 reza 45,097 borrowers
07:22 Joubu reza: configure memcached :)
07:23 reza in config?
07:25 reza ok, found it. environment variable
07:25 Joubu reza: you need to set it in the psgi file
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07:27 reza let me find where is it..
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07:29 reza should I follow this: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nce#Configuration
07:31 Joubu no
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07:32 fridolin hie
07:32 Joubu reza: /etc/koha/plack.psgi OR /etc/koha/sites/YOUR_SITE/plack.psgi
07:32 reza yes. I found the file
07:32 reza what should I add to the file?
07:32 Joubu then $ENV{MEMCACHED_SERVERS} = "localhost:11211";
07:33 Joubu if localhost:11211 is where your memcached server is
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07:33 reza OK
07:33 gaetan_B hello
07:33 wahanui hi, gaetan_B
07:34 Joubu hi BibLibre ;)
07:40 reza @Joubu: shall i paste  $ENV{MEMCACHED_SERVERS} = "localhost:11211";         anywhere in the plack file?
07:40 huginn reza: downloading the Perl source
07:41 Joubu reza: before the app defs should be ok, around l.56
07:41 Joubu 57 my $intranet = Plack::App::CGIBin->new(
07:45 reza OK. it's less than 6 sec now
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07:50 eythian hi
07:50 LibraryClaire hi eythian
07:52 eythian how is jolly old England doing?
07:54 LibraryClaire raining ^^
07:56 cait sunshine here )
08:01 reza thanks everyone. I guess my problem is solved :D
08:01 reza thank you <Joubu>
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08:08 eythian @wunder ams
08:08 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.9°C (10:08 AM CEST on August 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
08:09 eythian[…]msterdam/1812872/ <-- damn, guess who didn't bring a jacket
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08:16 drojf hi again
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08:17 LibraryClaire hi drojf
08:17 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
08:17 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 18.0°C (8:50 AM BST on August 19, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
08:17 drojf hi LibraryClaire
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08:40 marcelr @later tell khall please look at bug 14390 and bug 17135
08:40 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
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08:55 cait marcelr: thx for taking on the F/FU patch
08:58 marcelr hmm
09:02 cait just read your comment - sounds nasty
09:07 marcelr cait: yes i think you picked the best road
09:08 cait hm?
09:08 marcelr in correcting UpdateFine
09:08 cait ah, it seems the logical one
09:08 cait but i hope we won't miss something again
09:08 marcelr removing an id is a workaround thing
09:09 cait but glad now Julian didn't push it - was good to wait
09:09 marcelr no but look at 17135
09:09 marcelr actually the same problem already in stable
09:09 marcelr a fix should go in fast
09:10 cait ah, got confused about versions
09:10 cait so yeah, we need to get on that fast
09:11 cait ugh.
09:14 cait will be back in a bit
09:32 marcelr Joubu?
09:32 wahanui Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly
09:32 marcelr yeah
09:32 marcelr :)
09:32 Joubu marcelr: !
09:32 marcelr hi JoubuL could you add a follow-up to 16276 for kohastructure
09:32 marcelr s/L//
09:33 Joubu marcelr: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=54592 ?
09:34 marcelr hm did i spot somewhere last_seen ?
09:34 Joubu lastseen
09:34 Joubu erk
09:34 marcelr last_seen            => $last_seen
09:35 marcelr my $filterlastseen   = $params->{'last_seen'};
09:35 marcelr what did i see last? :)
09:35 Joubu yes, tt and pl use last_seen
09:35 Joubu but column name is lastseen
09:35 marcelr ok
09:36 Joubu because...
09:36 Joubu I don't know why actually
09:36 marcelr $patstodel lol
09:36 Joubu I guess it was because the borrowers table did not contain columns with _
09:36 Joubu but now some exist
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09:37 arshad hi
09:37 arshad how are you?
09:37 Joubu marcelr: it would make sense to rename it
09:38 Joubu marcelr: do you want a follow-up?
09:38 arshad to which have to rename
09:38 marcelr please wait a while
09:38 Joubu k
09:38 marcelr still thinking about lastseen though
09:38 marcelr what about if you just checkout a book to that patron
09:39 marcelr or he returned one etc
09:39 marcelr should it not be last login or so?
09:39 Joubu unless someone wants to extend the feature
09:40 marcelr in that case he can rename too ..
09:40 Joubu yes :)
09:41 marcelr another point: should we not just update if the pref is set?
09:41 marcelr and do it in Koha::Patron
09:41 marcelr $patron->track_login or something
09:43 Joubu we could update it only if the pref is set, but if you want to enable the pref it would be useful to already have the data in the table
09:44 marcelr i would say : we start tracking if you enable Track.. (just do what you say)
09:44 marcelr if you say do not track, now you are tracking
09:45 Joubu hum?
09:45 marcelr in
09:45 marcelr just always updating
09:45 Joubu yes, for the reason above
09:46 Joubu but we could add a switch if you think it's better
09:46 Joubu I don't have a strong preference
09:46 marcelr or update the pref description
09:46 marcelr you always track, but the pref shows or hides
09:54 cait Joubu: please only update when pref is set
09:54 cait that way people can choose to collect the data or not- seems nicer
09:55 marcelr i tend to agree cait
09:55 marcelr so 2>1 ?
09:55 marcelr Joubu: i add a follow-up
09:56 marcelr and hurt your child ;)
09:56 cait ouch
09:56 Joubu marcelr: I am ok with that
09:56 * cait leaves again... house chores
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11:49 oleonard Hi #koha
11:50 LibraryClaire hi oleonard :)
11:50 eythian Hi oleopard
11:50 LibraryClaire :D
11:50 druthb hi, oleonard! :)
11:50 oleonard What's the plan for today?
11:51 eythian It's friday, so it may involve beers. We'll see.
11:57 oleonard No other suggestions, so I'm going with eythian's plan.
11:58 druthb "Why is the rum always gone..?"
11:58 oleonard 8AM isn't too early to start planning is it?
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12:15 druthb 8 AM is too early to start *living*.
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12:26 archer121 How do I do a batch patron discharge in koha?
12:27 oleonard I don't think it's possible archer121
12:27 oleonard I suppose you could theoretically do it directly in MySQL, but I don't think there is a way to do it via the staff client.
12:28 archer121 We are running a college library. So every year, about 1000 patrons pass out. What should we do with the list of 1000 patrons?
12:28 archer121 What is the usual procedure?
12:30 oleonard archer121, I work for a public library where discharges aren't part of our process. You might get some good answers on the Koha mailing list.
12:34 Joubu archer121: it's not possible out of the box, you will have to script
12:37 nengard morning all
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13:03 cait archer121: do mean Koha's discharge feature or are you looking to delete/debar them?
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13:06 archer121 cait: Can we debar patrons in batch?
13:07 cait i think you could use the patron batch edit feature
13:08 oleonard I don't see that as an option in the batch patron modification tool
13:09 Joubu no I don't think so
13:09 cait sorry, was still checking
13:09 cait i am slow today
13:09 oleonard It would be more useful than the option to do a batch update of patron first name ;)
13:09 Joubu compared to my laptop, I am so fast today...
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13:10 Joubu oleonard: you never know!
13:10 cait Joubu: still broken?
13:10 wahanui well, broken is not what we want.
13:10 Joubu will be broken forever
13:10 Joubu rip
13:12 cait hm confirmed.. no batch debarment
13:12 cait poor thing :(
13:12 cait working from an old machine now?
13:14 Joubu old and slow, yes
13:15 cait any chance for new equipment soon?
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13:15 Joubu I ordered yesterday
13:15 * LibraryClaire is looking for a laptop
13:15 Joubu should arrive next weel
13:15 Joubu week
13:16 eythian in similarly traumatic news, my noise cancelling headphones have died.
13:16 Joubu LibraryClaire: I ordered at, good prices and you can build your laptop
13:16 LibraryClaire aaah
13:16 eythian Replacements won't arrive until next week.
13:16 LibraryClaire yes I know them for desktops
13:16 eythian how do people work without noise cancelling?
13:16 Joubu :)
13:17 Joubu work at home, you won't have this problem
13:18 eythian Until I phone my ISP and get them to fix my connection, the VPN won't work.
13:18 eythian I should get on to that
13:18 cait eythian: never had noise cancelling...
13:18 eythian weirdo
13:18 LibraryClaire I get freaked out by noise cancelling - I can't eavesdrop :P
13:18 cait once i get used to it, there is no way back it seems
13:18 eythian though, your office isn't so open plan as this one.
13:18 cait ... so not sure it's good tostart?
13:18 cait nope
13:19 eythian LibraryClaire: you can, you just turn the switch off. But it gives you more choice about when you do it.
13:19 eythian It's like having a switch that turns off the rest of the room.
13:19 LibraryClaire i usually have one ear on, one ear off
13:19 eythian that's weird don't do that :)
13:19 LibraryClaire :D
13:20 LibraryClaire but then I get music and I know when people talk to me unnanounced
13:20 eythian if people want to talk to me unannounced, they can wait.
13:22 * cait needs to hear the telephone
13:22 Joubu bug 2735 actually broke the pagination more than it was...
13:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2735 normal, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Authority search in OPAC stops at 15 pages
13:22 cait oops
13:22 drojf cait: get one with a lamp
13:22 drojf or a really loud ringtone
13:24 eythian[…]html#v=qc35_black <-- this is what I will be replacing with
13:24 eythian it's basically newest version of what I had.
13:25 drojf looks warm
13:25 cait drojf: don't have much choice there ) and office mates will complain aboutthe really loud ringtone i guess :)
13:25 drojf lousy coworkers ^^
13:26 eythian if you have noise cancelling, you can't hear them complain
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13:33 cait heh
13:33 cait i will think about it :)
13:41 Joubu patch on bug 17048, the pagination is broken for auth search (opac+staff). Please SO+QA as we can get it in for the next releases
13:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17048 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Authority search result list page scrolling not working properly
13:46 eythian <-- ruh roh
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14:02 sophie_m hello #koha
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14:05 sophie_m I've got a functional issue : when cataloging, if you duplicate a field, the new one is created empty of data, but if you duplicate a subfield, the new one contains a copy of the data in subfield. Is it on purpose ? Why the new subfield is not empty ?
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14:08 cait I've wondered the same thing in the past
14:08 oleonard Sounds like a bug
14:09 eythian you say that, but
14:10 sophie_m eythian: :) we're just saying the same thing with gaetan_B
14:11 sophie_m cait, oleonard, should I fill a bug ?
14:11 gaetan_B that's a strong argument for removing this behaviour if you ask me :)
14:11 gaetan_B (the xkcd comic)
14:11 cait sophie_m: i'd sign it off :)
14:12 sophie_m ok cait :)
14:12 cait well, can't really promise... but i think it's a bug
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14:20 Joubu I think that it comes from the laziness of devs
14:20 Joubu it's easy to duplicate a subfield and c/p its data, not for an entire field
14:22 sophie_m Joubu: do you mean that when duplicating (field or subfield) the new one should not be empty ?
14:24 Joubu I have always thought that the bug was to get an empty field, not to get a fulfilled subfield
14:24 Joubu but I am not a librarian :)
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14:27 Joubu maybe not:
14:27 Joubu 110                     inputs[j].value = "";
14:27 Joubu from the CloneField JS function
14:27 Joubu so the fields are emptied on purpose
14:33 sophie_m Joubu, most of the time, when you want a new field/subfield, it is to put different data in it
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14:47 cait agrees
14:54 oleonard Look what I ran across: Bug 13552
14:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13552 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, NEW , Add debar option to batch patron modification
14:54 oleonard Too bad there isn't a patch on it :(
14:54 cait yeah :(
14:54 cait have to go - cya all tomorrow or on monday
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14:54 oleonard Have a good weekend cait
14:55 * oleonard too slow
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15:16 Joubu oleonard: do not hesitate to create the "depends on" link when you know the bug number which has introduced the issue
15:17 Joubu I receive the notification
15:17 oleonard Okay Joubu
15:17 Joubu oleonard: for instance on bug 17118 you noted the bug# in the bug title, but I was not aware of it before today
15:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17118 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Regression: Bug 15381 triggers error when trying to clear a linked authority
15:18 Joubu Am I disconnect? :)
15:18 Joubu bug 17118
15:18 eythian Joubu: I can't see anything you're saying at all
15:19 Joubu I did not receive the first huginn msg, weird
15:20 eythian it sent, but it didn't send again because it doesn't repeat itself I think
15:21 Joubu make sense, but I received it after the second one
15:22 eythian weeeird
15:22 kidclamp Joubu, zaphod
15:22 kidclamp oops, wrong windows
15:22 Joubu 37% packet loss
15:22 kidclamp Hi Joubu
15:23 Joubu not so weird actually...
15:23 Joubu zaphod kidclamp!
15:23 eythian kidclamp: zaphod!
15:23 kidclamp that's totally not the password for my devbox
15:23 kidclamp just saying
15:23 kidclamp it's not
15:26 Joubu the password for your devbox should be 'koha'. That way nobody can guess it when you type it in the wrong window
15:26 kidclamp that's a good point
15:27 eythian you should also make it start with a / so it's harder to accidentally IRC
15:27 kidclamp even better
15:27 wahanui rumour has it even better is what oleonard said just after that
15:28 eythian wahanui: rumour =~ s/oleonard/oleopard/
15:28 wahanui I didn't have anything matching 'rumour', eythian
15:28 oleonard Ha, I wonder what I said just after that?
15:28 eythian wahanui: even better =~ s/oleonard/oleopard/
15:28 wahanui OK, eythian
15:29 eythian ok...
15:29 * eythian &
15:30 oleonard Bye #koha, maybe I'll see you later
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15:57 morgane bye #koha !
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16:06 Joubu have a good week-end #koha!
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16:12 kidclamp you too Joubu
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16:16 bag @seen alvet
16:16 huginn bag: alvet was last seen in #koha 1 year, 31 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 56 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <alvet> hi wizzyrea :)
16:38 gaetan_B bye
16:58 eythian @later tell marcelr I hope you drive this[…]jpg?itok=gjG8h0C_
16:58 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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17:04 tcohen bonsoir
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17:30 tcohen Joubu?
17:30 wahanui Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly
17:33 tcohen @seen Joubu
17:33 huginn tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <Joubu> have a good week-end #koha!
17:36 barton larryb: ping about littleelm
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18:19 tcohen ashimema: please review bug 17050 patches and stamp your signature!
18:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17050 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Accessing the REST API through Plack kicks the session out
18:19 tcohen (if you agree with them)
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19:15 aliki Hello everybody, i'm trying to test a bug and it's the first time that I'm asked for credentials
19:16 aliki this is the url I'm trying to test
19:16 aliki[…]taller/
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19:41 aliki No, still can't log in :(
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20:33 nengard hi tcohen
20:34 tcohen hi nengard !
20:34 nengard :)
20:37 tcohen git diff origin/master --name-only
20:37 tcohen oops :-D
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