IRC log for #koha, 2016-06-24

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06:03 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
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06:11 drojf morning #koha
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06:37 reiveune hello
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06:49 * magnuse waves
06:49 magnuse @wunder boo
06:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
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07:00 fridolin hie ther
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07:03 alex_a bonjour
07:03 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
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07:43 gaetan_B hello
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08:08 LibraryClaire hi #koha
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08:18 eythian LibraryClaire: hi, former EU citizen
08:18 LibraryClaire oh, don't :(
08:18 drojf eythian: nl is next
08:19 eythian Nobody actually listens to Wilders
08:19 drojf german media does
08:19 eythian they should stop it
08:19 drojf i agree
08:19 eythian > From the Haha, not funny-Dept: "'Brexit' to be followed by Grexit. Departugal. Italeave. Fruckoff. Czechout. Oustria. Finish. Slovakout. Latervia. Byegium."
08:20 drojf i saw that. there is none for germany ^^
08:20 eythian I assume it'd be Netheragain here or something
08:22 drojf germs
08:22 drojf no
08:22 drojf germans
08:22 drojf i dont know how that worked
08:23 eythian wahanui: germs
08:23 wahanui i guess germs is
08:23 eythian wahanui: germs
08:23 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
08:45 magnuse noway
08:45 magnuse oh, guess we never joined
08:46 eythian[…]brexit-insel.html <-- "Punishment for Brexit: EU bans british to a desolated rainy island in the north atlantic ocean"
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08:58 magnuse iceland?
09:02 eythian "When the british leave the EU, the EU has free space again. Exactly 1 GB"
09:09 magnuse lulz
09:14 atheia eythian: space is cheap, and it's virtually always worth trading space for performance -> bad deal :-(
09:26 eythian And that's ashimema out
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09:29 drojf i hope the uk can stay in our internet
09:30 atheia ^^
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10:19 * cait waves
10:22 LibraryClaire hi cait
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11:13 LibraryClaire sorry, i should let you work
11:13 LibraryClaire eurgh brain malfuntion
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11:41 oleonard Hi #koha
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11:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16527: Restore sticky due date behavior <[…]66e1abe58817e6d4d> / Bug 16534: (followup) - Tidy AddIssue <[…]39885971f08bb27a3> / Bug 16534: (followup) Correct tiny typo <[…]9fdf0550caf0b9a7e
11:46 cait hi oleonard :)
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11:53 Tylathos Hey :)
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11:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16612 - Cannot set "Until date" for "Enrollment period" for Patron Categories <[…]f417436fc0c8764f7> / Bug 16591: Fix CSRF in opac-memberentry <[…]c21d5615b83ac3ee4> / Bug 11490 - DBRev <[…]p=koha.git;a=comm
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12:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16737 - Error when deleting EDIFACT message <[…]cd8be2dbb29f7cb08> / Bug 16731: Use INSERT IGNORE when inserting a syspref <[…]cd9df2120ccc0612f> / Bug 16724: Fix link to the online documentation links <[…]b/?p=koha.git;a=c
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12:40 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
12:40 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 34.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
12:41 eythian @wunder ams
12:41 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 20.9°C (2:26 PM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:41 eythian drojf: I win
12:41 drojf no, it's nice
12:41 drojf ;)
12:41 eythian no, it's 34°
12:43 nengard @weather 78754
12:43 huginn nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 24.4°C (7:31 AM CDT on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
12:43 drojf it's really not bad
12:43 drojf just the work part ;)
12:43 drojf or, no lake office part
12:44 magnuse @wunder boo
12:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
12:45 drojf i forgot a beer in the freezer last night. i remembered when it was already frozen, but before it could explode. now its in the fridge waiting for me to come home. could be worse
12:45 oleonard @wunder 45701
12:45 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 21.1°C (8:45 AM EDT on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
12:46 oleonard Doing pretty good here, except that it's cloudy and I live in Ohio.
12:46 drojf but i think i will postpone figuring out why the control file looks very different depending on the koha repo i used to the more thunderstormy weekend
12:46 drojf packaging and thunderstorms seems like a good combination
12:47 drojf oleonard: ohio in general, independent of the weather?
12:48 eythian drojf: in my experience, a) it'll be decarbonated, b) it probably won't defrost in the freezer very fast at all
12:48 eythian err
12:48 eythian defrost in the fridge
12:49 oleonard drojf: I have good reasons to live in Ohio, but none of them have to do with the fact that it is Ohio.
12:49 cait drojf: thunderstorms? i am jealous
12:49 cait *melts*
12:49 drojf eythian: i defrosted in the bath tub because it was night and i was not sure if would survive
12:49 drojf *it
12:49 eythian drojf: ah OK
12:49 drojf but yeah it will probably not be very fresh
12:50 drojf cait: they are promised for tomorrow, we will see
12:50 eythian I've never let one sit for a while after melting though, it might recarbonate
12:50 drojf they love to just pretend and then skip berlin :/
12:50 eythian yeah, they often do that here too
12:50 eythian except the other night where it came past in full force
12:51 drojf and then you complain
12:51 drojf ;)
12:51 eythian well of course
12:51 eythian that's what the weather is for
12:51 drojf true
12:51 drojf i should complain more about the heat and like it secretly
12:52 drojf i already made sip auth work today, don#t feel complainy
12:52 drojf ah that is something to complain about
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13:04 oleonard Idea: Bugzilla email announcing the anniversary of your bug report with no changes. "Hey maybe you ought to give some more details or close it or something?"
13:04 drojf +1
13:04 cait hehe
13:05 nengard +1
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13:06 nengard oleonard many years ago I remember doing a batch update at the request of the community - closing MANY old bug reports
13:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16644: Plack: Use to_app to remove warning about Plack::App::CGIBin instance <[…]d2a400378dfc94ff6> / Bug 16462 - Change default sorting of circulation patron search results to patron... <[…]383150816a183a7d5>
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13:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16718 - Translatability: Fix problems with sentence splitting by in... <[…]6935f6d9d352d4c0b> / Bug 16697: Translatability: Fix problem with isolated "'s"in <[…]121651277bcee6232> / Bug 16742: (follow-up)Remove unused template <http:
13:23 tcohen morning
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13:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16751: What is sitemaper? <[…]7682f9a5aaecab974>
13:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16400 [Follow-up] Proposal to uniform the placement of submit buttons <[…]a61e9d0805a1dec2d> / Bug 16400: Use the fa-times icon for Cancel <[…]35f57d8186ff11e3c> / Bug 16400: Restore the previous stack order behavior <
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13:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16494 - Remove the use of "onclick" from some patron pages <[…]c217bf7150e2fc90f> / Bug 16490: Tidy updateLink and updateAllLinks <[…]bc8ff5593107c5cb5> / Bug 16490 - Add an "add to cart" link for each search results in the staff client <http://git.koha-c
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13:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16602 - Remove the use of "onclick" from several templates <[…]560ffdc5b8afa041a> / Bug 16601: Update of italian MARC21 files <[…]570e597cb564fa7c2> / Bug 16557 - Remove the use of "onclick" from several include files <
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14:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16772 - Change label from 'For:' to 'Library:' to ease translation <[…]e4c14535fc7ece015> / Bug 16770: Remove 2 other occurrences of libmemoize-memcached-perl <[…]9edad43d2a6fb58d6> / Bug 16770: Remove Memoize::Memcached dependency <http://git.koha-commun
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14:21 cait khall: bug 12178 - does the page now reload?
14:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12178 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Serial claims: exporting late issues with the CSV profile doesn't set the issue claimed
14:22 khall cait: not sure what you mean
14:22 cait when you claim - it didn't reload the page
14:22 cait so you didn't see you claimed
14:23 cait and were likely to claim again - because the page doesn't refresh
14:23 cait see my last comment
14:23 khall I see now, I missed that comment. I'll re-check and add a followup if need be
14:25 cait thx!
14:30 Joubu cait: it sounds like another bug to me
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14:34 cait Joubu: but it's a new feature that the csv-button claims...i just worry about the error potential
14:34 cait it's not as bad as if it was the email one, as you don't send something
14:35 cait but it's still quite confusing to the user - i'd have to explain that in every training i think to avoid them from wondering
14:35 cait = unexpected behaviour
14:36 Joubu it's more a bug fix than a new feature.
14:36 Joubu Anyway it must be fixed
14:36 Joubu just saying it could be on another bug report
14:36 cait ok
14:36 cait khall: culd you post your follow-up to a new bug?
14:36 Joubu this patch is 2 years old...
14:37 cait i can file it
14:37 khall cait: definitely!
14:37 Joubu 1
14:37 cait 1?
14:37 wahanui hmmm... 1 is default, it would seem.
14:37 khall cait: just give me the bug #
14:38 Joubu The patch is 1 year old, the bug is 2, nevermind :)
14:38 cait i am filing it right now
14:40 cait khall: bug 16808
14:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16808 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Serial claims: claiming via CSV export doesn't reload the page
14:40 khall thanks cait!
14:40 cait made it a bug and linked it
14:40 Joubu khall: did you read the discussion on bug 11144 before passing qa on it?
14:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11144 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Fix sequence of cronjobs: automatic renewal - fines - overdue notices
14:41 Joubu I don't think it should be pushed as it
14:41 cait i have to reread
14:41 cait hoped khall would take a look
14:41 cait i am working too much currently and am training libraries the next 2 weeks :(
14:41 cait if someone want to adopt and fix it that's fine by me
14:42 cait as long as the basic sequence is kept - because i really think that is the right one, even if we have no dependencies on finished or not
14:42 cait renew - fine - overdues (because you can print the fine in the overdues - and otherwise it will be 0 when there actually IS a fine a few minutes later...)
14:43 khall Joubu: so your issue is with the possibility that or could fail and halt the sequence?
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14:45 Joubu khall: see comments 31 and 32, the behavior differs from package and non-package installs
14:46 cait i might have been wrong about that smeone said
14:46 cait it hought that for packages they wait on finishing... but i am not sure if that's totally true
14:46 cait if it fails, the next one might still start
14:46 cait maybe we could fix sequence now and worry about dependencies separately - this seems to be a bigger topic
14:47 cait the worry galen had initially i thik was that one job has actually not finished when the next one starts
14:47 Joubu what I suggested in my last comment
14:47 cait i think we shoudl be able to avoid that at least somehow?
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14:58 khall Joubu: so are you suggesting we split the patch and move the crontab.example issue to a new bug?
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15:00 stjAthenITguy Hey guys, anyone around? I have a few questions about some reports. Thanks in advance!
15:00 khall Joubu: cait: if you have issues with those bugs, why did you not set them to Failed QA?
15:01 Joubu khall: when I want to get other QA pov, I do not change the status
15:02 cait khall: I did, then Joubu (dev) answered and wnated me to respond
15:02 Joubu khall: I suggested to fix the order in this patch and move the errors handling to another bug
15:02 cait it's always good to read the last comments
15:02 cait ah
15:02 khall cait: I do, but sometimes that don't sink in ; )
15:02 cait i was talking serials claims... are we taling about the cronjobs oneß
15:03 khall I think maybe we need a new status to flag bugs as looking for a second QA opinion
15:03 Joubu I think so :)
15:03 Joubu khall: maybe a bz tag "important" would be usefull
15:04 Joubu at comment level I mean
15:04 khall Joubu: as long as we can get everyone on the team to do that. I'm all for it. I also think maybe a tag *would* be a good idea
15:04 khall something where a qa team member can just pull up a list of all bugs that need a second opinion on them
15:05 khall brb
15:14 cait tags are personal
15:14 cait i think we need a keyword
15:14 cait hm comment level
15:14 cait i think my brain is not running well... too hot
15:14 cait nooo... not in discusson...
15:15 khall cait: only for a bit ; )
15:15 khall cait: I think the keyword is the way to go, who can add one?
15:15 cait @wunder konstanz
15:15 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 31.2°C (5:15 PM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
15:15 cait rangi i think
15:15 cait i can't
15:16 khall something like "QAinput" or something
15:16 cait not sure how to add something on comment level
15:16 khall cait: any opinion on what it should be?
15:16 khall Joubu: ^
15:18 Joubu I think I am lost
15:18 Joubu I wanted to say: a tag at comment level
15:18 Joubu to highlight important comments on a given bug
15:18 khall Joubu: we want to add a keyword to indicate a bug is looking for a second opinion from the qa team.
15:19 Joubu ok so 2 different needs
15:19 khall I proposed QAInput, but I don't care for it. Maybe qa_opinion?
15:19 Joubu I really don't care :)
15:19 khall me neither ; )
15:20 Joubu maybe a bit too long
15:20 khall @later tell rangi can you add a new keyword to bugzilla to indicate it needs a second opinion from the qa team? qa_opinion or whatever you think it should be.
15:21 huginn khall: The operation succeeded.
15:21 khall Joubu: check by followup up 11144
15:21 khall on bug 11144 that is
15:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11144 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, In Discussion , Fix sequence of cronjobs: automatic renewal - fines - overdue notices
15:22 cait Joubu: i like that :P
15:23 drojf "FOLIO, which stands for the Future of Libraries is Open". press release written in microsoft word, docx
15:23 drojf sorry, i like detail :P
15:23 cait hehe just reading it too
15:33 Tylathos wow a new project, which want to change the way software works in an area. How new and surprising
15:34 cait heh
15:35 Tylathos and the project name is an acronym, that is so innovative
15:37 cait I guess we will have to wait and see how it turns out
15:57 khall oleonard: is in line css verboten?
15:57 khall bug 16794
15:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16794 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Signed Off , Revise layout for Admistration > Patron categories
15:57 oleonard khall: Not necessarily, but I'll take a look
15:57 khall thanks!
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16:29 gaetan_B byebye
16:31 oleonard khall: Your instinct is correct about Bug 16794. The inline style is an error.
16:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16794 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Signed Off , Revise layout for Admistration > Patron categories
16:40 kidclamp Joubu - I will double check on 14902 - I thought I was hitting issues when I didn't add USE Koha
16:43 Joubu kidclamp: I did not test, but it should work without
16:46 Joubu bye #koha!
16:47 kidclamp bye Joubu
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18:02 oleonard I didn't realize Firefox didn't have tab groups anymore
18:28 oleonard have a good weekend #koha
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18:48 eythian @later tell drojf https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16588
18:48 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
18:48 huginn Bug 16588: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , libreadonly-perl (and libreadonly-xs-perl) need to be added as dependencies
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19:45 nengard anyone around?
19:45 wahanui no one but us, nengard
19:45 nengard ooooo
19:45 nengard scary
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19:51 talljoy HI NENGARD
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19:51 talljoy Friday afternoon in the Koha channel...check the tumbleweeds roll
19:55 nengard poo
19:55 nengard wanted to ask if i found a bug
19:55 nengard oh well - reported it and can wait and see
19:55 talljoy what was it?
19:58 nengard https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16810
19:58 huginn Bug 16810: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fines note not showing on checkout
19:59 nengard was updating the manual with new screenshots
19:59 nengard and found it
19:59 ccordova hi,
20:01 ccordova I have a problem with Koha 16.05 when I update an item "withdrawn" no becomes available. this is log
20:03 talljoy looks like a mismatch in your table structure.  the old field was wthdrawn but is now withdrawn.  I'd check your items table in the db.
20:03 talljoy update database should have caught that, but you can manually alter the table
20:04 nengard talljoy++
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20:12 ccordova talljoy : tranks in my database items is correct
20:12 talljoy curious.
20:12 ccordova this problems is the moment update items
20:13 talljoy let me see if i can replicate on master
20:14 talljoy how are you updating and item?  batch item modification/ or on the item details scree?
20:16 ccordova in details item
20:16 ccordova this screen
20:16 talljoy okay, i'm trying to get to my install of master.  having problem with the site.
20:17 ccordova
20:17 talljoy ok thanks, let me see
20:18 ccordova thanks :)
20:20 talljoy okay, i can't replicate that on a master version.
20:20 talljoy sounds like it may be something about your install.  if it is referencing wthdrawn that is old code.
20:20 talljoy i'm afraid my expertise is in the data, not the code or system setup
20:22 ccordova this is update 3.22.x a 16.05
20:22 ccordova :(
20:26 ccordova search for "withdrawn" in /usr/share/koha/  this is the result
20:28 talljoy i'm wondering now about your frameworks.
20:28 talljoy one of those updatedatabase commands is updating the frameworks to map the 952$0 to the withdrawn field and maybe it is still mapped to wthdrawn.
20:34 ccordova that's
20:34 ccordova :)
20:36 talljoy bingo
20:37 ccordova talljoy :  thanks
20:37 talljoy your welcome!
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21:04 tcohen hi
21:10 eythian Tsipouro o'clock
21:11 cait :)
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21:47 eythian Small bottle of Tsipouro is significantly better than large bottle 😐
21:48 eythian I need to find a local source.
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