IRC log for #koha, 2016-06-23

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00:04 mtj hey wiz ->
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00:27 wizzyrea A+!
00:27 wizzyrea ...have we talked about mark mothersbaugh before?
00:28 wizzyrea I don't recall that but it's awesome if you just picked that I might like that ^.^
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04:30 Oak Ahoy me hearties!
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05:24 Oak magnuse
05:24 Oak Guten tag cait
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05:52 magnuse Oak
05:52 Oak \o/
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06:01 magnuse ooh our very own druthb interviewing larry! (7:54 and onwards)
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06:06 fridolin hie
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06:27 alex_a bonjour
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06:34 Nick_PBC Hello everyone! Got a question to do with zebra, if anyone's up for it?
06:35 Nick_PBC Trying to relink authority data to authority records, using
06:35 Nick_PBC but am getting a weird thing with the zebra results. Koha's producing a query like this: @or @attr 1=Local-Number @attr 7=1 0 @and @attr 1=authtype @attr 5=100 @attr 4=6 "PERSO_NAME" @attr 1=Match-heading @attr 4=1 @attr 5=100 @attr 6=3 "Bentley, Peter, Ed."
06:36 Nick_PBC But that's not giving me just the one result. Instead, I'm getting several results - some of which are clearly wrong.
06:36 Nick_PBC Sent searchRequest. Received SearchResponse. Search was a success. Number of hits: 4, setno 56 SearchResult-1: term=PERSONAME cnt=16429, term=Bentley  cnt=4 records returned: 0 Elapsed: 0.006020
06:36 Nick_PBC show 1 Sent presentRequest (1+1). Records: 1 [authorities]Record type: USmarc 00236naa a2200109   4500 001 1979 003 aukapbc 005 20160623125213.0 008 160623|| aca||aabn           | a|a     d 040    $a aukapbc $c aukapbc 100    $a Bentley, James 942    $a PERSO_NAME  nextResultSetPosition = 2 Elapsed: 0.001710
06:37 Nick_PBC show 2 Sent presentRequest (2+1). Records: 1 [authorities]Record type: USmarc 00245naa a2200109   4500 001 1980 003 aukapbc 005 20160623125213.0 008 160623|| aca||aabn           | a|a     d 040    $a aukapbc $c aukapbc 100    $a Bentley, Michael $d 1935- 942    $a PERSO_NAME  nextResultSetPosition = 3 Elapsed: 0.026331
06:37 Nick_PBC show 3 show 3 Sent presentRequest (3+1). Records: 1 [authorities]Record type: USmarc 00236naa a2200109   4500 001 1981 003 aukapbc 005 20160623125213.0 008 160623|| aca||aabn           | a|a     d 040    $a aukapbc $c aukapbc 100    $a Bentley, Peter 942    $a PERSO_NAME  nextResultSetPosition = 4 Elapsed: 0.001843
06:38 Nick_PBC show 4 Sent presentRequest (4+1). Records: 1 [authorities]Record type: USmarc 00243naa a2200109   4500 001 1982 003 aukapbc 005 20160623125213.0 008 160623|| aca||aabn           | a|a     d 040    $a aukapbc $c aukapbc 100    $a Bentley, Peter, (Ed.) 942    $a PERSO_NAME  nextResultSetPosition = 5 Elapsed: 0.002116
06:38 Nick_PBC of those - only the last one is the one I want.
06:38 Nick_PBC Any ideas?
06:38 wahanui Any ideas are welcome :)
06:40 pastebot "Nick_PBC" at pasted "Strange search result - giving me false returns (only want result 4!)" (68 lines) at
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06:55 reiveune hello
06:55 wahanui hey, reiveune
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07:23 gaetan_B hello
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07:32 drojf morning #koha
07:36 magnuse hiya drojf and gaetan_B
07:38 drojf hei magnuse
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07:52 magnuse kia ora cait
08:00 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:00 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 27.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
08:00 drojf 27° at 10am meant having the day off because of heat when i was in school
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08:01 marcelr hi #koha
08:01 drojf hi marcelr
08:06 eythian @wunder ams
08:06 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 18.9°C (9:55 AM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
08:06 eythian I had a very interrupted sleep due to being awoken by lightning and thunder every few few minutes.
08:07 magnuse @wunder boo
08:07 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
08:07 eythian (it's not actually heave rain at the moment, but it was about an hour ago.)
08:09 drojf eythian: you are very good at that summer thing
08:12 eythian It's supposed to get to 27 or so this afternoon
08:13 drojf and more rain?
08:16 eythian more thunderstorms
08:18 drojf nice
08:18 drojf i think it will be just hot here today
08:19 * magnuse recommends a summer holiday in northern norway
08:20 eythian[…]s/vW7OcaZhVeKkR7B <-- Den Haag HS station
08:21 drojf ouch
08:21 magnuse ouch
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10:44 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:44 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 29.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
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11:07 liw @wunder helsinki
11:07 huginn liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 19.0°C (1:50 PM EEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
11:08 liw @wunder mcmurdo
11:08 huginn liw: Error: No such location could be found.
11:08 liw @wunder mcmurdo station
11:08 huginn liw: Error: No such location could be found.
11:08 magnuse @wunder boo
11:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
11:08 magnuse ooh
11:09 magnuse @wunder mcmurdo, antarctica
11:09 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
11:10 liw[…]-forecast/2273718 -- there we go, except I don't know if they use C or F
11:10 magnuse or
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11:10 * liw is having trouble with the heat wave in Finland
11:10 LibraryClaire hi #koha
11:11 magnuse looks like 20 something C below zero
11:11 liw right now -28 C sounds lovely
11:11 magnuse :-)
11:13 Joubu hi #koha
11:15 magnuse 'ello Joubu
11:15 LibraryClaire hi Joubu :)
11:20 Joubu LibraryClaire: Did you vote already?
11:29 Joubu @later tell talljoy I think so yes, but iirc it's not possible to capture them
11:29 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:30 LibraryClaire Joubu: yes, just got home
11:34 eythian @wunder ams
11:34 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.3°C (1:28 PM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
11:34 eythian that forecast 27 is struggling to appear
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11:36 LibraryClaire @wunder Guildford, UK
11:36 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Chilworth, Chilworth, United Kingdom is 21.8°C (12:36 PM BST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
11:42 eythian[…]um/iwH5aYGoPwSf7g <-- /me tries to find marcelr
11:43 barton oleonard++
11:43 marcelr he eythian
11:43 barton ^^ very much appreciate the review of old tickets.
11:44 marcelr eythian: behind a close door and then a little further ;)
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12:00 oleonard Thanks barton.
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12:34 oleonard I wonder if rangi gets bounce messages from Bugzilla
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13:00 tcohen morning fellows
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13:01 tcohen hi oleonard
13:01 oleonard Hi tcohen
13:01 magnuse hiya tcohen
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13:06 tcohen Joubu: are you aware 16770 is removing caching of some stuff, right?
13:11 magnuse bug 16770
13:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16770 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Remove wrong uses of Memoize::Memcached
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13:22 fridolin ashimema: hie Martin, do you have a sec for the sandboxes ?
13:23 tcohen magnuse: it does, but caching is already in place for the relevant stuff
13:28 marcelr tcohen: could you plz qa 16644 ? quite trivial..
13:32 Joubu tcohen: hum?
13:32 Joubu tcohen: the caching does not work, the code is buggy
13:32 Joubu the patch just removes something which does not work
13:33 eythian @wunder ams
13:33 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 24.2°C (3:32 PM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
13:33 eythian now the temperature is getting somewhere.
13:33 oleonard @wunder 45701
13:34 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 18.1°C (9:33 AM EDT on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect until 6 PM EDT this evening...
13:34 oleonard Now we're all floating away somewhere
13:34 eythian "Gevoelstemp. 30 °C", actually maybe I'll stay inside for now
13:34 eythian yeah, weather alerts here too this afternoon
13:34 Joubu @wunder Volos, Greece
13:34 huginn Joubu: The current temperature in Center, Volos, Greece is 35.7°C (4:30 PM EEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
13:34 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:34 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 8.0°C (10:30 AM ART on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
13:34 Joubu ...
13:34 tcohen brrrr
13:34 eythian doesn't count, Joubu
13:35 oleonard I'll take thunderstorms over 35.7°C any day
13:35 Joubu eythian: of course it does!
13:35 eythian[…]-in-storm-damage/ <-- oleonard, well...
13:36 oleonard Okay fine weather is universally horrible always and I like to stay inside anyway.
13:36 eythian wahanui: facepalm is also <reply>[…]/emojis/1f926.svg
13:36 wahanui okay, eythian.
13:37 cait heh
13:37 eythian[…]mily/+bug/1595544 <-- speaking of fonts
13:37 oleonard Look at that, no more Iceweasel in Debian.
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13:50 ashimema fridolin: in the middle of something at the minute but just seen your email.. have asked atheia to look into it at this end
13:55 fridolin ashimema: thanks a lot, keep in touch
13:55 fridolin FYI im updating the zebra configuration
13:55 fridolin on all our sandboxes
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14:12 * Joubu spent 1h30 to rebase bug 15758...
14:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 4
14:12 Joubu s/spent/lost
14:16 oleonard Joubu: Is it correct that it only depends on Bug 15407? I'm still getting a conflict even with 15407 applied.
14:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15407 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the patron categories related code to Koha::Patron::Categories - part 2
14:17 Joubu oleonard: still uploading the last 2 patches
14:17 oleonard Oh
14:17 Joubu first patch is "Remove GetBranchName"
14:17 Joubu it gets stuck on the last patch, don't know why...
14:18 Joubu looks ok now
14:18 khall cait: take a look at bug 16735 when you have a moment, still needs unit tests, but I wanted to get your input before I went any further
14:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Replace existing library search groups functionality with the new hierarchical groups system
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14:21 oleonard khall, kidclamp, maybe you or someone else at ByWater could give some time to testing Bug 15758 today?
14:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 4
14:21 khall oleonard: will do!
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14:23 oleonard Joubu: Is there a db update that needs to be run?
14:24 Joubu oleonard: no it's just code refactoring
14:24 Joubu quite a big one  231 files changed, 742 insertions(+), 1928 deletions(-)
14:24 oleonard I've got an empty library dropdown on circ/
14:24 Joubu oleonard: possible, I got lot of conflicts
14:27 Joubu oleonard: [% USE Branches %] is missing in the template
14:33 fridolin ashimema: ha, I see you use sandbox8, i've juste corrected the sql dump =-O
14:34 fridolin do you whan to have the orignal dump ?
14:35 fridolin oups my mistake, its very old
14:35 fridolin Sandbox setup by with database 1 and bug master on Mon Jan  5 14:59:35 2015
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14:44 nuentoter good morning, I have a quick question, would an empty 852 line end up creating an extra entry for item?
14:48 kidclamp 952 line? And I don't think it would unless it has the minimum required fields, I feel like it fails silently on an import
14:48 kidclamp but I would need to test to be sure
14:53 nuentoter no 852, it was left over after extensive marcedit use. didn't realize it until I finished all the imports, now I have duplicates of all the books but the duplicates have no items attatched. Just trying to figure out why so I don't repeat the same mistake.
15:00 nuentoter I know that multiple 952 lines will do this, example if your record looks like 952 $a    then next line is 952 $b  then next line is 952 $c   you can end up with 3 records,  it should be 952 $a  $b  $c  on one line
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15:26 bag morning
15:32 oleonard Hi bag
15:33 oleonard Joubu: I've found a few small bugs with 15758 so far and one big one: catalogue/ doesn't work at all.
15:34 oleonard "Can't use string ( [my library's name] ) as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at C4/ line 308."
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15:37 Joubu oleonard: awesome, thanks! Could you comment on the bug report?
15:38 oleonard Joubu: Yes, I'm compiling a list
15:38 oleonard So far other than that one, nothing that wouldn't be acceptable to fix in follow-ups.
15:39 Joubu oleonard: glad to hear that, I expected much more errors, looking at the conflicts I have fixed
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15:43 clement i need help
15:44 oleonard clement: Do you have a question?
15:45 clement how to set library?
15:46 oleonard clement: How to define a new library? Or how to select which library you are logged in as?
15:47 clement ye please
15:47 wahanui somebody said ye was not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, .
15:47 clement yes
15:47 clement after installation what i have to do
15:47 oleonard manual?
15:47 wahanui manual is at
15:47 clement yes
15:49 oleonard http://translate.koha-communit[…]sktop/#libsgroups
15:50 reiveune bye
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15:52 clement thanks all
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17:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:59 oleonard Hi mtompset
17:59 mtompset Greetings, oleonard!
17:59 mtompset Did you notice the revised patch I put up on bug 4460?
17:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4460 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost
17:59 oleonard Yes
18:00 mtompset And actually, I think the bug even pre-dated 3.8.x
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19:04 mtompset Greetings, paul_p tcohen drojf
19:04 tcohen hi
19:08 mtompset Want a simple sign off? I tried something silly, logging into OPAC as the database admin user, and got nastiness. I wrote a patch to catch it and warn, kind of like the staff client has.
19:28 drojf hi mtompset. sorry, 21:30 and hot day, the only simple thing i am looking for is cold beer :)
19:29 mtompset Not a problem. But if you get bored, go look for a recent Needs Sign Off reported by me. :)
19:29 drojf heh ok
19:29 mtompset (16805)
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20:02 mtompset Oh sucky... bootstrap isn't in the staff client yet!
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20:03 rangi @later tell oleonard naw i just trash them
20:03 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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20:33 * cait waves
20:35 * kidclamp waves too
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21:10 wizzyrea hi
21:10 wahanui privet, wizzyrea
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21:19 eythian @wunder ams
21:19 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 21.6°C (11:09 PM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
21:19 eythian Oh the humidity!
21:19 wahanui the humidity is, like, evil
21:20 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:20 huginn cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 21.0°C (10:50 PM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
21:20 cait hot
21:21 wizzyrea hm, 21, that's reasonable weather. Though possibly not for 11pm
21:22 cait yeah
21:22 eythian I feel like I'm sitting in a puddle.
21:23 eythian Only, the puddle is the air
21:23 * wizzyrea imagines that
21:25 wizzyrea[…]teago5_r1_400.gif
21:26 rangi @wunder nzwn
21:26 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
21:27 eythian They at least had a chocolate factory
21:30 wizzyrea and fizzy lifting drink
21:31 eythian Also that
21:31 wahanui it has been said that Also that is a giant undertaking
21:33 eythian wahanui: comedy is
21:33 wahanui ...but comedy is funny indeed. Ask me about [solr], [germs] and [friday]....
21:33 cait solr
21:33 cait solr?
21:33 wahanui somebody said solr was tied into the search rewrite
21:34 eythian wahanui: comedy is also
21:34 wahanui okay, eythian.
21:34 wizzyrea hahah
21:38 cait ... why do i have to translate stuff from the stop words page for 3.22
21:38 cait thought this was dead dead dead...
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21:41 magnuse @wunder boo
21:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (11:20 PM CEST on June 23, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
21:47 mtompset What was that townhall thing? a meeting?
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21:55 amyk hi mtompset - kidclamp did a Town Hall regarding some possible developments for eserials
21:56 cait what's a town hall?
21:56 kidclamp we have a partner interested in improving serials, making it more flexible, adding options for simpler editor for electronic subscriptions etc
21:56 kidclamp town halls are meetings open to all partners to get wider feedback
21:56 mtompset Ah, thanks, amyk :)
21:56 amyk :-)
21:57 mtompset English is rather dumb. Sometimes the thing that is happening is called by the place it is held, even if metaphorical.
21:58 mtompset Historically, people would gather at the town hall to have meetings to discuss the town, but the word meaning has so drifted. :)
21:58 amyk good point mtompset
21:58 amyk "group discussion"
21:58 kidclamp heh, yes, a meeting name dervied from historical practicies, though I was shocked when I moved to New Englad, we actually have 'town hall' meetings in our Town Hall, and actual governing (supposedly) happens there
21:58 amyk we also do them sometimes on topics to educate partners about
21:59 amyk heh kidclamp
21:59 amyk so New England!
22:00 mtompset My curiosity was about the content, not what it actually was. :)
22:00 mtompset or at least for whom.
22:01 mtompset (define the town)
22:02 amyk :-)
22:02 amyk eserials then :-)
22:02 amyk i think it was b/c cait said what is a town hall that we got into all that :-)
22:03 kidclamp basically the changes discussed were: add a 'serialtype' (print, electronic, mixed) column to subscriptions, make numbering pattern optional, add ability to edit marc 856/866 per subscription, make subscription tab show optionally for different serial types, add option to use 'full subscription history' instead of subscriptions tab, and a dd usual sidebar (place holds etc) to that page
22:03 wizzyrea mtompset: gonna take a guess based on the participants, bywater customers.
22:03 kidclamp still hoping to get some more feedback mtompset, work in progress
22:04 mtompset Well, I am a lowly programmer with no serials knowledge, so I doubt I can provide useful feedback, except if you put really nice test plans on your patches. :)
22:05 kidclamp heh, that is mostly what I said - I test serials sometimes, but I don't use it
22:06 cait kidclamp: hm for the first - we could use one of the new attributes - unless there is more functionality that is linked to it
22:07 cait i hd libraries asking why subscriptions have to expire
22:07 kidclamp interesting
22:07 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
22:07 cait maybe i have just not figured it out yet... but is there a way to avoid?
22:08 cait they don't want to renew them
22:08 kidclamp I think that is the issue, it isn't so much eserials, but more flexibility overall
22:09 kidclamp Karl_H isn't in now, but he is one of the potential sponsors
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