IRC log for #koha, 2016-05-10

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00:08 Francesca hello
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00:37 wizzyrea hi
00:38 wizzyrea how doin
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01:18 florent rangi: sorry to bother. I need a second (better) opinion when convenient.
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01:42 tcohen kia ora
01:43 rangi kia ora tcohen
01:45 tcohen hey rangi
01:45 tcohen how are you doing?
01:45 rangi not too bad
01:46 rangi oh hey i had a quesiton for you
01:46 rangi i keep forgetting the answer
01:46 rangi but what is the best way to turn on memcached for plack?
01:47 tcohen i guess the usual, the configuration is now in koha-conf.xml only
01:47 tcohen right?
01:47 rangi hmm did they shift it back ?
01:48 rangi i've lost track :)
01:48 rangi i think on 3.22 its still ENV variables
01:49 tcohen i think you are right
01:49 tcohen
01:49 tcohen env takes care
01:50 rangi ah yep and that passes through to the socket eh
01:50 rangi ?
01:50 tcohen good question :-D
01:51 tcohen i don't think it is passed
01:51 rangi It didn't seem to
01:51 tcohen let me fire kohadevbox
01:51 rangi i had to make a special plack.psgi
01:52 rangi (well copy it to /etc/koha/sites/myinstance/)
01:52 rangi and set the env variables in there
01:52 rangi but i might have been doing something wrong
01:53 tcohen interesting bug
01:53 rangi yeah i was all why is nothing being set in the cache
01:53 rangi ohhhh
01:55 tcohen yeah, we should fix it
01:55 tcohen by putting it back in koha-conf.xml :-P
01:56 tcohen the idea behind a single plack.psgi file, was being able to patch it for the users
01:56 rangi yeah exactly
01:56 tcohen we added the per-instance file to adapt to koha-gitify
01:56 rangi if we are moving to plack on by default, which it looks like we are
01:56 rangi we'll need to fix it so it is in the config file
01:57 rangi im not entirely sure why we moved to ENV
01:57 rangi there must have been a reason, i just cant remember it
01:57 tcohen it is because we cache koha-conf.xml
01:57 rangi ah right
01:58 rangi so we just need to read it first, then create the cache object, and cache it
01:58 tcohen i'm sure eythian was involved in the discussion
01:58 rangi that way if we change it, a koha-common restart will catch it
01:58 tcohen now jacek and jonathan are doing stuff with the cache
01:58 tcohen cool stuff
01:59 rangi yeah it was a race condition thing
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06:36 alex_a hello
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06:47 reiveune hello
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11:40 magnuse druthb!
11:41 magnuse oleonard!
11:41 oleonard hello!!
11:43 cait druthb! oleonard! magnuse!
11:43 druthb magnuse!
11:43 druthb oleonard!
11:43 druthb cait!
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11:53 magnuse @arewethereyet
11:53 huginn magnuse: YES!
11:53 magnuse oops
11:59 oleonard Where is huginn going?
12:03 magnuse to the galway races
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12:49 atheia Good day #koha :-)
12:50 atheia I have a question about a patch I'm working on:
12:50 atheia I need to add mandatory authorised_values and a borrower_attribute_type.
12:51 atheia Does anyone know what files I should add those to?
12:51 oleonard atheia: What does your patch do?
12:51 atheia This is bug 5670
12:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5670 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Housebound Readers Module
12:52 atheia So it's a feature that allows patrons to have a "housebound" profile associated with them, which can be used by volunteers and librarians to select and deliver items to those patrons who are housebound.
12:53 atheia The athorised values are: 1) a frequency (the default which is added is 'every week'), a "role" for housebound stock choosers and a role for housebound stock deliverers.
12:54 atheia hmm… the roles should be 2) and 3) respectively.
12:54 atheia the roles are then used by the borrower_attribute_types, to designate specific borrowers as patrons with those roles within the housebound context.
12:54 atheia Does that help?
12:56 oleonard Yes, but I still don't understand "add mandatory authorised_values and a borrower_attribute_type." Do you mean you need to make those field mandatory in a form?
12:57 atheia No, I just need to make sure that those default authorised_values and the borrower attribute is created during the Koha installation process.
12:57 atheia Atomic updates ensures it is added during the update process, but I don't know the right way to add them during install.
12:58 oleonard There are sql files which are loaded during installation
12:58 oleonard installer/data/mysql/[ language ]/mandatory
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13:00 atheia OK — so I add relevant entries to the auth_values.sql there for every language in that folder?
13:00 tcohen buen día
13:00 atheia Hi tcohen :-)
13:03 oleonard I think that's correct atheia
13:04 atheia oleonard: Ok, ta very much for the advice :-)
13:05 magnuse atheia: or consider making it optional, so you'd have to choose to use the housebound module
13:05 atheia hey magnuse
13:05 magnuse otherwise libraries will have a patron attribute they don't need
13:06 magnuse might be ok to let libraries that do not want to use the module delete the patron attribute though
13:06 * magnuse stops thinking out loud
13:06 magnuse hiya atheia
13:06 atheia Yeah, it's optional anyway (the syspref is switched off by default) — and the tests should work either way
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13:07 atheia But I figured it'd be better to provide people with an out of the box working module, for libraries that do what to use it…
13:07 magnuse yeah, probably all good
13:08 * magnuse takes a break
13:10 tcohen hi magnuse !
13:15 cait atheia: everything booked? :)
13:15 atheia o/ cait
13:15 atheia Yup — super organised!
13:16 atheia Got transport and accomodation sorted for both hackfest and kohacon :-)
13:16 cait cool :)
13:16 atheia I imagine you've been on top of this for ages by now??
13:16 cait are you going home for the weekend now?
13:16 cait i have booked, but still need to figure out thw how to to airports and hotels etc
13:16 atheia Yeah, had other commitments for the weekend in between :-/
13:16 cait ah ok
13:16 cait was wondering on hwich flight to greece you might be :)
13:17 atheia I see — nah unfortunately it'd be unlikely you'd be on mine ;-)
13:17 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_is_arriving_when *hint*
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14:29 drab morning koha
14:29 drab fwiw koha on mysql 5.7 doesn't seem to really work, just tried a new instance on ubuntu 16.04 and couldn't get past the web installer, couldn't insert stub data
14:30 drab I'm giving up and going back to ubuntu 14.04 and mysql 5.5 because I need to have this done today, but thought I'd mention
14:30 drab lots of apps out there seem to just be breaking with 5.7, there's a zillion posts of ppl trying to get 5.5 running on ubuntu 16.04
14:31 cait drab: there is a bug, let me find it
14:31 cait bug 16403
14:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16403 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Fix Holds.t (tests 9 and 39)
14:31 cait is this what you see?
14:31 cait ops
14:31 cait oups
14:31 cait bug 16402
14:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16402 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Web Installation fails - Step 3 Importing the Database Structure
14:32 cait sorry, typoed
14:34 drab cait: yeah that's the one
14:40 drab thanks
14:44 tcohen is jacek around?
14:44 amyk-Marywood Hi does anyone know what koha community version EDI is officially in? thanks
14:46 tcohen 16.05
14:46 amyk-Marywood thank you!!!!!
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15:01 kidclamp oleonard - rebased and squashed 3534
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15:05 oleonard kidclamp: Did you squash my patch too?
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15:18 kidclamp yes, I fixed the toggle showing up on the regular screen and incorporated all your changes
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15:18 kidclamp oleonard
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15:36 oleonard kidclamp: Looks like there's some debugging stuff left in. I see the text "Exist!" at the top of the quick add form.
15:38 kidclamp heh
15:42 kidclamp removed that and the js logging
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15:57 atheia Does anyone know whether mveron might be around? (unfortunately I don't know their IRC handle…)
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16:05 kidclamp @seen mveron
16:05 kidclamp seen mveron
16:05 huginn kidclamp: mveron was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <mveron> Yes please, I'm a little bit short of time...
16:07 oleonard atheia: mveron doesn't seem to spend much time here (too busy signing off on patches?)
16:07 atheia ah, handy command kidclamp  :-)
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16:08 atheia oleonard: ^^ well, they have their priorities straight it seems ;-)
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16:22 nengard_rr hey Koha - question
16:22 nengard_rr when Acq finds dups
16:22 nengard_rr what field is it using?
16:22 nengard_rr please don't say title
16:23 cait no idea
16:23 cait but if you find out - i'd like to know :)
16:23 cait i am not sure we do it the same way in all places - there is the duplicate check on the staged marc import, and the one for suggestions
16:23 cait possible some other too?
16:23 nengard_rr how would one find out?
16:24 nengard_rr I'm seeing something not good at all in a training
16:24 nengard_rr and it seems like it's title if there is no isbn
16:24 cait i think htat would not be super bad if there is an option to override - where are you seeing it?
16:26 nengard_rr so, we imported a file, looked for dups on 024 and found some, staged file, ordered from file, acq stopped us from loading 6 titles that weren't matches in the stage tool, they have no isbn in them but there are book matches for the dvds and it's no letting us batch order because of it
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16:39 cait nengard_rr: ĥm i think that's a feature from kivi
16:39 cait for the staged import
16:40 cait nengard_rr: maybe i can find the bug report
16:40 cait bug 12074
16:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12074 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Filter duplicates when adding a full batch from a staged file
16:41 cait hm no, from lyon
16:42 cait it seems to use FindDuplicate
16:43 cait[…]53e793c609f90#l83
16:44 cait i might be misreading it, but looks like isbn when there is one - if there is none, title and author
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18:02 * cait waves
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18:13 mveron-away Hi #koha
18:14 oleonard Hi mveron
18:14 mveron hi oleonard :-)
18:14 mveron @wunder Allschwil
18:14 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 19.0°C (8:00 PM CEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
18:15 mveron @wunder Helsinki
18:15 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 20.0°C (8:50 PM EEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
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18:26 oleonard Are you planning a trip to Helsinki mveron?
18:29 mveron Yes, I will be there for a some days. Family trip, our daughter lives there.
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18:44 mveron oleonard: I'm testing Bug 3534  Patron quick add form, the save does not work, could it be related to the new floating save?
18:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Patron quick add form
18:47 oleonard mveron I haven't looked at it since kidclamp rebased it, so I don't know
18:49 magnuse @wunder bo
18:49 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
18:49 magnuse @wunder boo
18:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 PM CEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
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18:58 eythian @wunder ams
18:58 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.9°C (8:50 PM CEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
18:58 eythian Too warm
18:59 druthb @wunder 77447
18:59 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Blueberry Farm, Hockley, Texas is 29.9°C (1:58 PM CDT on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
18:59 magnuse oh poor you, eythian ;-)
18:59 druthb poor both of you.  :P
18:59 druthb Having to be all cold like that.
18:59 magnuse lulz
18:59 magnuse @wunder muscat
18:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Al Hail South, Muscat, Oman is 36.8°C (10:59 PM GST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa.
19:00 * magnuse knows someone who lives there
19:00 magnuse @wunder longyearbyen
19:00 huginn magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
19:00 oleonard Bye all
19:00 magnuse have fun oleonard
19:00 magnuse @wunder kautokeino
19:00 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Enontekio, Norway is 4.0°C (9:50 PM EEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
19:01 magnuse @wunder karasjok
19:01 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is 7.4°C (9:00 PM CEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
19:02 eythian magnuse: it was 27 in the weekend.
19:03 eythian The main problem is my apartment is well insulated, so it's 25 inside.
19:03 magnuse ok, i'll admit that is a major nuisance :-)
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20:11 mveron Good night / daytime #koha
20:11 cait hi mveron :)
20:11 cait i think someone was looking for you today
20:11 mveron Hi cait :-)
20:13 mveron Yes, it was about bug 6906, I mistaked while testing.
20:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Signed Off , show 'Borrower has previously issued $ITEM' alert on checkout
20:13 mveron cait: I will be out of office for a couple of days.
20:14 cait ah, are you traveling?
20:14 cait i hope it's a fun reason
20:14 cait I think you made atheia very happy with that sign off
20:14 mveron Yes, Helsinki. Our daughter lives there.
20:14 cait oh nice - hope you have a good time :)
20:15 mveron We will do a roadtrip in the south of Finland.
20:15 cait sound scool
20:15 cait sounds cool even
20:15 mveron Flight goes very early tomorrow, so I have to log off now...
20:16 mveron Good night / daytime everybody
20:16 cait bye mveron!
20:16 cait safe travels
20:16 mveron Thanks :-)
20:16 mveron Bye
20:35 tcohen bye #koha
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20:42 drab later #koha
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21:19 * andreashm waves
21:20 * cait waves
21:21 rangi morning
21:22 cait morning rangi
21:22 andreashm I'm trying to look at bug 10662 again (yeah, that one)
21:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
21:22 andreashm hey rangi
21:22 andreashm cait
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21:23 drojf evening
21:23 cait hey drojf
21:23 drojf hi cait
21:24 andreashm I'm getting a "Can't locate in @INC" when I'm trying to start the harvester. is this my kohadevbox having problems or something up with the patch?
21:24 andreashm hi drojf
21:24 drojf hi andreashm
21:24 cait hm i think you might bemissing a perl dependency
21:24 rangi andreashm: looks like it adds a new dependency
21:24 rangi does the patch (or patches) add that to the list of dependencies?
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21:26 andreashm_ back
21:27 cait heh
21:27 cait did you see rangi's question?
21:27 andreashm_ yeah
21:27 andreashm_ I checked the log
21:27 andreashm_ not that I can see.
21:28 rangi then yeah, thats a failed qa
21:28 andreashm_ drojf: didn't you manage to get the OAI-PMH harvester up and running to test?
21:28 rangi it should touch
21:28 cait if you want to contine testign you can install it - but should note it
21:28 rangi C4/Installer/
21:28 rangi and add it there
21:29 andreashm_ I did try to install it. Couldn't get it to work though (got a bunch of failed tests etc.)
21:30 drojf andreashm_: i did, but i think i missed some newer patches. but maybe i installed that back then, don' remember
21:30 andreashm_ o, thanks.
21:30 andreashm_ I'll check with dccok
21:30 andreashm_ gah, dcook
21:51 drojf good night #koha
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23:15 Francesca @wunder wlg
23:15 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on May 11, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
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23:55 * Francesca waves

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