IRC log for #koha, 2016-05-09

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01:43 dcook Hmm any koha-security folk around?
01:49 dcook I don't really have a security bug to report... rather just to mark an existing bug as a security bug...
02:07 rangi you can just edit it
02:07 rangi and switch it to koha-security from koha
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03:07 circ-user-YesEm hello
03:07 circ-user-YesEm anyone there ?
03:08 circ-user-YesEm [d]
03:13 wizzyrea hi
03:26 circ-user-YesEm hello
03:26 circ-user-YesEm where can i find the document that prose Koha is secure ?
03:27 rangi heh
03:27 rangi short answer is you can't
03:27 rangi you can't prove something is secure
03:30 circ-user-YesEm ok
03:33 wizzyrea You should run your own tests and tools against it.
03:36 circ-user-YesEm i dont think i am expert testing and finding issue on koha but i wish to see if anyone can tell koha is secure
03:39 ibeardslee probably worth doing something explaining some of the stats around fixing known security bugs
03:40 ibeardslee there was a known issue a while back that had a patch and a new release with a hour or so wasn't there?
03:41 ibeardslee that's not quite a "Koha is secure" but more Koha has processes for dealing with notified security issues.
03:45 rangi yeah, there are no currently known exploitable issues that havent been patched
03:45 rangi[…]l?vendor_id=11706
03:46 rangi we have strong qa processes, and we fix any issues as fast as possible as soon as they are found
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03:47 wizzyrea moreover it's on you as the user (or your support company) to make sure you are running the latest patched version
03:47 wizzyrea all software has vulnerabilities.
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06:11 reza Hi, I am getting an error after searching in opac side.
06:11 reza Error:
06:11 reza Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 798.
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06:43 reiveune hello
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06:49 reza Hi, I am getting an error after searching in opac side
06:49 reza Error:
06:49 reza Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 798.Hi, I am getting an error after searching in opac side.
06:49 reza <reza>  Error:
06:49 reza <reza> Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 798.Hi, I am getting an error after searching in opac side.
06:49 reza <reza>  Error:
06:49 reza <reza> Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 798.Hi, I am getting an error after searching in opac side.
06:49 reza <reza>  Error:
06:49 reza <reza> Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 798.Hi, I am getting an error after searching in opac side.
06:49 reza Error:
06:49 reza Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 798.
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06:58 alex_a bonjour
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07:20 * dcook waves goodnight
07:32 paul_p Joubu dans le coin ?
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07:50 marcelr hi #koha
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08:34 * magnuse waves
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08:44 marcelr hi magnuse
08:45 marcelr @later tell tcohen: About "You do not have upload_path in koha-conf.xml at t/db_dependent/Upload.t line 44": would you rather remove these two warns there?
08:45 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
08:51 magnuse @wunder boo
08:51 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on May 09, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
09:00 Joubu paul_p: yep
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09:30 reza I'm getting an error from search
09:31 reza Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 798.
09:31 Joubu reza: which Koha version do you use?
09:33 reza latest
09:33 reza I have updated about a week ago
09:34 Joubu 3.22.06?
09:34 reza the funny part is when i search some specific words it shows error in opac page. the other error I have mentioned is in the log
09:34 reza yes . 3.22
09:34 Joubu .06? :)
09:34 reza I have 180 MB of logs
09:34 reza 0_o
09:35 Joubu Did you fully reindex Zebra?
09:35 reza yes, i did
09:35 reza http : // opac . apiit .edu  .  my
09:35 reza check this
09:35 reza just search "php 7"
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09:36 Joubu you should use plack :)
09:37 cait hi all
09:38 reza Do you know why am I getting this error? :-?
09:38 marcelr hi cait
09:39 Joubu reza: it seems that zebra returns an invalid record
09:39 Joubu did you upgrade via the debian packages?
09:40 reza yes,
09:40 reza Do you think I should fully rebuild zebra?
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09:41 Joubu you told me you did it :)
09:41 reza after I have upgraded. but if you think reindexing will help I will do that
09:41 Joubu I would fully reindex zebra and make sure there is no error
09:41 Joubu It may be caused by the version of Zebra you use
09:42 Joubu but if you are using the debian packages I imagine the version should be ok
09:43 reza so I'm gonna index again
09:43 reza I had 1.5 GB error file :-D
09:44 Joubu from the reindex?
09:44 reza from opac-error.log
09:46 reza [Sun May 08 06:51:11.511223 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 17097] [client] AH01215: [Sun May  8 06:5$
09:46 reza [Sun May 08 06:54:16.616281 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 17119] [client] AH01215: [Sun May  8 06$
09:46 reza [Sun May 08 06:54:16.616453 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 17119] [client] AH01215: [Sun May  8 06$
09:46 reza [Sun May 08 06:54:16.616574 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 17119] [client] AH01215: [Sun May  8 06$
09:46 reza [
09:47 reza Wide character in print at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ line 116.
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09:48 * cait waves
09:48 cait super busy today
09:49 Joubu hi cait
09:58 cait hi Joubu
09:59 cait I tried to clean up the bugs in the pqa list - but from the remaining 5 i can't do 3 because I wrote/tested them
09:59 cait marcelr, Joubu - could you take a look at those?
10:01 marcelr cait: hopefully later this week..
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11:02 cait tcohen: ping?
11:08 tcohen heading to the office
11:09 cait ah
11:09 cait ping me later? i just have a quck question
11:11 tcohen ok
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11:48 oleonard Hi #koha
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13:07 tcohen_ guten morgen
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13:09 marcelr hello tcohen
13:09 tcohen hi marcelr
13:09 tcohen cait: what's up?
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14:54 kidclamp mtj around?
15:00 kidclamp @later tell mtj can you look at bug 13871
15:00 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
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15:02 mveron-away Hi #koha
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15:05 tcohen magnuse: i merged the anisble into master
15:06 * mveron waves to cait
15:08 mveron cait: I see a problem with the reading history in OPAC (German). In English, I have results in tab "Checkouts", but no results in German in tab "Ausleihen".
15:08 tcohen Joubu: why do u say 30 secs?
15:09 Joubu tcohen: hum?
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15:32 drab morning #koha
15:32 drab tcohen: do you have an ansible role to deplo koha that's officially supported?
15:32 tcohen hi drab}
15:32 tcohen nope
15:33 tcohen we have a role used to deploy the dev environment
15:34 tcohen it is not a bad idea, though
15:35 tcohen drab: are you interested?
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15:39 drab tcohen: I made one for our own deployment, but it's pretty much sticks & duct tape
15:39 drab not really even a role, just a playbook
15:43 drab on a different note, gonna try my luck again about import_records
15:43 drab does anybody know exactly what the table import_records is about and more importantly if it's safe to empty it? I'm chasing a corruption and tracked it down there
15:44 drab I can't quite repair it without dropping the table and dumping it isn't possible as it crashes mysql
15:44 reiveune bye
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16:03 Joubu drab: what do you mean by "safe"?
16:03 drab Joubu: cant the data be "regenerated" somehow? does it break any functionality?
16:04 Joubu drab: it contains the data you have imported via the Koha import tool
16:05 Joubu but when a record is imported, a "Koha record" (biblio/auth) is created
16:06 Joubu so it should not break any other ft than the history of your staged MARC records
16:06 Joubu and you won't be allowed to revert the import
16:06 Joubu it would make sense to truncate import_batches as well
16:07 Joubu and so no, you won't manage to regenerate the data
16:13 drab Joubu: that's great news, thank you, and thank you for bringing up import_batches, I'll clear that one too
16:13 Joubu drab: I have never done that before, so please test :)
16:14 drab lol, ok, I have backups of the broken db...
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16:44 mveron cait: Bug 16478
16:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16478 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Translation breaks display of Checkout history in tab Checkouts / On-site-checkouts
16:47 Joubu mveron: that way, 'onsite' and 'checkout' won't be translated
16:48 Joubu sorry, forget that
16:48 mveron :-)
16:48 mveron Joubu: Thanks for checking. I'm not sure if there would be a better solution.
16:52 Joubu mveron: same issue at the intranet actually
16:53 mveron Joubu: Is my solution OK? - I will fix the intranet then
16:54 Joubu mveron: looks ok yes
16:54 Joubu mveron: I can fix it if you prefer
16:55 mveron Yes please, I'm a little bit short of time...
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17:02 Joubu mveron: follow-up added, please add your signoff (or wait for someone else to do it) and switch to signoff
17:04 Joubu bye #koha
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17:24 cait mveron++
17:24 cait Joubu++
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17:57 tcohen does anyone understand how we implement relevance ranking in Koha?
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18:28 cbrannon tcohen: The last I heard on relevance ranking is that it is a black box function.  No one, to my knowledge, knows how it works.
18:28 tcohen cbrannon: i've just read in the zebra docs, that there is static ranking (which uses record id to sort results) and there's dynamic ranking
18:29 tcohen[…]tion-ranking.html
18:29 tcohen the latter is done at query time and gives really better results
18:30 tcohen i'm intrigued why we seem not to be using it, probably jcamins or dcook know the answer
18:30 tcohen if you choose relevance, it falls back to static id-based ranking
18:32 cbrannon It would be nice to have some input on the ranking functionality.
18:35 tcohen i think it's just a matter to build the query prepending the @attr 2=102 attribute
18:38 tcohen i'm probably missing something, but that's how it looked to me
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18:44 UserNao Hola
18:44 UserNao hello
18:44 tcohen hola UserNao
18:44 UserNao hey tcohen... :)
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18:58 oleonard Bye #koha
19:05 tcohen bye #koha
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19:14 kiljab this probable should not be asked here but i couldnt find else where. Is there a place where i can download old releases?
19:20 tubaclarinet Good bye :-)
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19:24 kchris i am ready to sign off on a bug,  9543, but I am a little confused about how to use git to sign off on a bug with more than one patch. I have a read the wiki entry.
19:42 cait kchris: are you working with git?
19:43 cait or a sandbox?
19:43 kchris cait: I am working on git.
19:43 cait ok
19:43 cait how many patches do you need to sign?
19:44 kchris Well, it looks to me that there are two patches for bug 9543, the first one was signed off on already. The second one hasn't been signed off on.
19:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9543 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Show patrons messaging subscription on holds notification
19:44 cait ok, but you tested both - so you can sign both too
19:44 kchris Yes, I tested both.
19:44 cait I will tell you one way :
19:45 cait git rebase -i HEAD~2
19:45 cait then you will get some page to edit
19:45 cait if you change the pick in front of each line to r
19:45 cait and then close the editor
19:46 cait you can do git commit --amend -s  (first patch) - then git rebase --continue
19:46 cait and repeat that until you are done with the patches
19:46 cait ah sorry
19:46 cait not r
19:46 cait better use e
19:57 kchris cait: that seemed to go ok. Now I still need to attach the patches?
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20:05 cait kchris: yep
20:05 cait do you know how to do that?
20:05 cait you can do git bz attach  bugnumber HEAD~2..
20:05 cait and then a git bz edit
20:06 cait that will attach all the patches at once and then you can use the edit command to obsolete and set the status
20:07 kchris cait: ok. I am obsoleting the patches that were previously applied by Kidclamp, etc?
20:07 cait yep both
20:07 kchris Ok. I will give it a shot.
20:07 cait so your newly attached remain
20:13 kchris "git bz attach 9543 HEAD~2" returned "Commit is already in remote branches... Rewrite the commit and and the bug URL anyways?"... not sure about this
20:18 cait add the ..
20:19 cait HEAD~2..
20:19 rangi morning
20:19 cait morning
20:20 cait hope that makes a difference
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20:31 cait kchris: does it work? we can also do it a bit differently if you want
20:32 kchris It may have worked...I see the old patches were obsoleted. I am looking in bugzilla to see if my new one was attached.
20:35 rangi i can never remember how to switch on caching with plack
20:37 cait kchris: not there
20:38 cait did it ask you to attach - yes/no?
20:47 kchris hmm. let me see.
20:51 kchris it did ask me to attached, and I confirmed. There there was a traceback with wtha a bad status line.
20:53 kchris git bz edit 9543 allowed me to successfully obsolete 49939, and 49940.
20:54 kchris I guess that attachment failed.
20:54 cait hm
20:54 cait sometimes that happens when you take too long
20:54 cait maybe try attaching again?
20:55 drab hi, I'm using the advanced editor to do a search and then trying to "save to catalogue", but I get an error
20:55 drab Missing mandatory tag: 003
20:55 drab which is indeed not there
20:55 drab any clue what that may be about?
20:55 kchris try the "git bz attach 9543 HEAD~2" again?
20:56 drab this is from on koha 3.22.6
20:56 drab just got a search back from LOC and trying to save it to catalog
20:56 rangi kchris: you have to be fast
20:56 cait drab: you need to type it in
20:56 rangi kchris: or it times out, so id try again
20:56 cait it usually has your marcorgcode i think
20:57 kchris ok. that time, no traceback error message.
20:57 cait hm
20:57 cait ther eis a patch
20:57 rangi cool, id check the bug now, in your browser and see if it has the patch
20:57 cait just wondering if it's the correct one you wanted?
20:59 kchris oh does'nt look like the one I wanted....
20:59 cait hm
20:59 cait if you do a git log
20:59 cait are the 2 signed patches there?
20:59 kchris I think I screwed it up.
20:59 cait kchris: it's not a problem, we will figur it out
21:00 cait let's check first if your branch looks correct
21:00 cait what does the git log show you?
21:05 kchris git log shows me bug 9543, which is what I want, and it shows that I signed off on it.
21:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9543 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Show patrons messaging subscription on holds notification
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21:07 kchris But the actual attachment seems to refer to another patch: Bug 16390: Accounts.t does not need MPL
21:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16390 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Accounts.t does not need MPL
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21:10 kchris when I originally did git bz attach 9543 HEAD~2...
21:10 kchris git returned "Bug 16390: accounts t does not need MPL"
21:10 kchris ...a different bug
21:12 kchris attaching seems to have "moved the starting point" adding a bug reference to 16390
21:12 cait hm
21:13 cait so git status is ok
21:13 cait showing the 2 patches...
21:13 cait i am a bit of a loss here
21:13 cait what we can try also is
21:13 cait git bz attach bugnumber HEAD^
21:13 cait see if that shows your correct first patch before you say y
21:14 kchris actually it's says "rebase in progress onto 6dbceac
21:14 cait aah
21:14 cait try git rebase --continue
21:14 cait see what it says
21:14 cait maybe you didn't quite finish before
21:15 kchris "successfully rebased and updated"
21:15 cait cool
21:15 cait now try again
21:17 kchris when I go to attach, it still refers to "Accounts.t does not need MPL" which refers to another bug...
21:17 kchris n
21:18 kchris git status: "your branch and origin/master' have diverged
21:18 kchris and have 3 and 1 different commit each..
21:18 kchris use git pull to merge the remote branch into yours.
21:19 kchris "working directory clean"
21:19 kchris I guess I should do the git pull first... right?
21:20 cait sorry, i got a bit lost
21:20 kchris so, my bug branch has diverged from origin/master
21:21 cait something has gone wrong there, but not sure whwat it is really
21:21 cait maybe the easist woudl be to start on a new branch
21:22 cait checout master... git pull... and then make a new branch and start there again with the patches
21:22 kchris okay.
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21:25 Francesca good morning
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21:32 kchris__ cait: I am going to have to come back to this later tonight...thanks for trying to help me out.
21:32 cait sorry we didn't get it to work
21:32 kchris__ we got part way there.
21:33 kchris__ starting over, I go to apply the patch, but I also get the commit that I added mistakenly.
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22:10 drab so the librarian guy doesn't like the "advanced editor" for cataloging, "too complicated"
22:10 drab and wants the old workflow back with the Z39.50/SRU search
22:11 drab however I just can't get that to work or understand why it's not working
22:11 pianohacker drab: what version of Koha are you on?
22:11 drab the same book gets pulled up by the advanced search, but not by cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/
22:11 drab 3.22.6
22:11 drab so it's not firewall or proxy or anything like that
22:11 drab results from LOC come back just fine
22:12 drab it's the code that somehow, with the settings or somethings, makes the decision that "nothing was found"
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22:17 rangi it must be a settings thing, i just tested on a 3.22.06 in production, title search for test from LOC, i got 501 pages of results back
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22:20 aleisha hello all
22:21 aleisha will be on and off today like i have been for the past week :(
22:21 rangi hi aleisha
22:21 rangi righto
22:21 aleisha hoping to be able to come in on Thursday and friday
22:21 rangi sweet
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22:22 drab rangi: I believe that, I just can't figure out which one. and also why would the advance editor ignore it?
22:23 rangi no idea, have never used it
22:24 wizzyrea drab: what os/installation method are you using? I'm sure you've told us before but I've slept since then...
22:24 drab sleeping is a good thing :)
22:24 pianohacker drab: the advanced editor uses a completely different set of code to search Z39.50, so the error is somewhere in the specific part of Koha that does the old Z39.50 search
22:24 drab wizzyrea: I'm on ubuntu 16.04 with koha 3.22.6
22:25 drab I've installed from deb
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