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| 00:00 |
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mtompset |
bag, is there a translation of that Maori phrase? Google translate fails. |
| 00:01 |
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kidclamp |
"Go your way. The morning tide is for you; the evening tide is for me. Death is inevitable and is everyone's destiny" |
| 00:01 |
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bag |
I can only do it injustice when I repeat it. It’s something like.. I send you away from these shores (iirc) |
| 00:01 |
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kidclamp |
from irc logs |
| 00:01 |
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bag |
ah yes! what kidclamp said |
| 00:07 |
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mtompset |
@quote random |
| 00:07 |
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huginn |
mtompset: Quote #302: "Cait: it's all part of our secret plan... the more people know about Koha, the more can they help each other" (added by wizzyrea at 09:19 PM, March 16, 2014) |
| 00:14 |
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mtompset |
kidclamp: Want an easier sign off to test? My PEGI15 bug has been sitting for ages. |
| 00:14 |
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mtompset |
I should see if it still applies. |
| 00:14 |
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kidclamp |
number? |
| 00:14 |
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wahanui |
number is going down too fast |
| 00:15 |
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mtompset |
bug 14362 |
| 00:15 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails |
| 00:15 |
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mtompset |
It will fail in 45+ minutes naturally. |
| 00:15 |
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mtompset |
(eastern timezone) |
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mtompset |
basically apply the test portion of the patch -- test... fails... apply the other part -- test... pass... |
| 00:21 |
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mtompset |
granted you may wish to install libtime-fake-perl :) |
| 00:21 |
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kidclamp |
so need to wait 45 mins to test mtompset? |
| 00:22 |
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mtompset |
not if you install libtime-fake-perl |
| 00:22 |
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kidclamp |
heh, I will run it in 45, arond for a bit, if I can do easy i will do |
| 00:23 |
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mtompset |
it's a matter of the Today macro giving a different date that Date::Time->today->ymd() |
| 00:23 |
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mtompset |
because of the timezone. |
| 00:24 |
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mtompset |
oh, it fails now. |
| 00:24 |
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mtompset |
I forgot DST. |
| 00:26 |
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mtompset |
prove t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t |
| 00:27 |
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kidclamp |
passing for me right now |
| 00:27 |
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mtompset |
really? |
| 00:27 |
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wahanui |
somebody said really was more trouble than she's worth. |
| 00:27 |
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mtompset |
off master? |
| 00:27 |
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mtompset |
what timezone are you in? |
| 00:27 |
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* kidclamp |
shrugs |
| 00:27 |
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bag |
all of them |
| 00:28 |
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kidclamp |
Eastern |
| 00:28 |
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kidclamp |
VT |
| 00:28 |
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mtompset |
sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 00:29 |
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mtompset |
Tell me your settings. |
| 00:29 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15757 [QA Followup] - Having EDI configured will make unit tests fail <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]635d90a2b209e668a> / Bug 15757: Make GetLoanLength defaults to 0 instead of 21 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f69077962a8f2429d> / Bug 15757: Make issuelength default to null instead of 0 <http://git.koha-com |
| 00:29 |
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mtompset |
I'm set to America/Toronto |
| 00:29 |
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kidclamp |
America/New York |
| 00:30 |
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kidclamp |
hah, I need to install time fake |
| 00:30 |
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kidclamp |
-v |
| 00:30 |
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mtompset |
No... it should fail normally now. |
| 00:30 |
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mtompset |
Change it to America/Toronto. |
| 00:30 |
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wahanui |
mtompset: that doesn't look right |
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mtompset |
See the failure. |
| 00:30 |
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mtompset |
I changed to America/New York and did not. |
| 00:31 |
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kidclamp |
oh, ha, don't apply bug first |
| 00:31 |
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mtompset |
even STRANGER! |
| 00:31 |
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mtompset |
Exactly what I mean. |
| 00:31 |
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kidclamp |
your patch fixed it |
| 00:31 |
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kidclamp |
I just jumped ahead and wasn't reading test plan and giving full attention |
| 00:32 |
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mtompset |
Current default time zone: 'America/New_York' |
| 00:32 |
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mtompset |
Local time is now: Thu Apr 21 20:31:28 EDT 2016. |
| 00:32 |
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mtompset |
Universal Time is now: Fri Apr 22 00:31:28 UTC 2016. |
| 00:32 |
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mtompset |
It these scenarios where the day is different that causes the bug. :) |
| 00:33 |
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kidclamp |
I did clear a tiny comflict in dependencies |
| 00:35 |
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mtompset |
I was going to post a rebase, but if you did that, that's fine. :) |
| 00:35 |
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kidclamp |
if it had been any harder |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15930: Make patron searches defaulting on 'contain' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d6175b66bf1bfa4ab> |
| 00:46 |
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* oleonard |
has opinions |
| 00:48 |
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kidclamp |
mostly good ones |
| 00:50 |
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bag |
heya oleonard |
| 00:50 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
| 00:50 |
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bag |
so what was that project that had you distracted from koha for so long? |
| 00:51 |
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oleonard |
A conversion of myacpl.org from Drupal to WordPress. |
| 00:51 |
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bag |
ah |
| 00:52 |
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oleonard |
Not terribly exciting, but time-consuming! |
| 00:52 |
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bag |
heh |
| 00:52 |
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bag |
well always happy to see oleonard |
| 00:53 |
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oleonard |
Very happy to be here. |
| 00:59 |
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mtompset |
oleonard! I was just thinking about you. Though, I can't remember why. |
| 00:59 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12663: (QA followup) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f7bbab348def71f7c> / Bug 12663 - SCOUserCSS and SCOUserJS ignored on selfcheck login page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5e8da6417cf9ed682> / Bug 12787 [QA Followup] - Retain change to Reports_Guided.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]?p=koha.git;a=com |
| 00:59 |
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oleonard |
mtompset, you probably overheard someone being opinionated about buttons. |
| 01:00 |
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mtompset |
no no... it was related to bugzilla and bugs somehow. |
| 01:00 |
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mtompset |
wasn't trigger by others. |
| 01:06 |
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mtompset |
No... scrolled back. |
| 01:06 |
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mtompset |
Now I remember. |
| 01:06 |
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mtompset |
oleonard: When was bootstrap added to Koha? |
| 01:06 |
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mtompset |
which version? |
| 01:06 |
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wahanui |
which version is recommended? |
| 01:07 |
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oleonard |
I don't remember mtompset |
| 01:07 |
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oleonard |
Why? |
| 01:08 |
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bag |
about 3.6 or 3.8 iirc |
| 01:11 |
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wizzyrea |
bag no way |
| 01:11 |
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wizzyrea |
we had CCSR in 3.8 |
| 01:12 |
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oleonard |
mtompset, OPAC or staff client? |
| 01:12 |
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mtompset |
staff, I think. |
| 01:13 |
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wizzyrea |
we removed ccsr/prog in 3.18 |
| 01:14 |
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wizzyrea |
I think we got bootstrap for the opac in 3.14 |
| 01:20 |
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mtj |
hey doods, i recently re-remembered bootswatch |
| 01:20 |
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mtj |
https://bootswatch.com/ |
| 01:20 |
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mtj |
..would be nice to add that snazz to Koha |
| 01:21 |
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kidclamp |
aw heck yeah! |
| 01:21 |
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bag |
hey mtj |
| 01:21 |
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kidclamp |
rainbows and unicorns theme ftw |
| 01:23 |
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mtj |
i had a little play with it... its basically a oneliner to add to a bootstrapped page |
| 01:23 |
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oleonard |
I think we should take a more targeted approach to introducing some of that snazz |
| 01:26 |
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oleonard |
mtompset, FWIW it looks like the staff client at least *began* to have Bootstrap included in 3.12.0 |
| 01:26 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 10309 was in 3.14 |
| 01:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 01:27 |
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wizzyrea |
you probably laid some groundwork in 3.12 |
| 01:27 |
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wizzyrea |
as you do. :) |
| 01:28 |
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* oleonard |
appreciates that bag is putting details about which version patches will be in when he comments in Bugzilla |
| 01:28 |
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bag |
that’s feedback from dani and barton |
| 01:28 |
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bag |
they could never datetime parse very well - I said no at first :P but then said yes a few days later |
| 01:28 |
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mtj |
yep, its very useful info |
| 01:29 |
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oleonard |
It always bugged me too but I never thought of complaining. I'll have to try that. |
| 01:29 |
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* bag |
loves ideas thrown against the wall |
| 01:29 |
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bag |
the more the better - then you can pick the awesome ones |
| 01:42 |
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kidclamp |
night koha |
| 02:02 |
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wizzyrea |
there's a script you can run that will tell you |
| 02:12 |
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wizzyrea |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ase_notes;hb=HEAD |
| 02:13 |
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wizzyrea |
^ pipe the output of that to grep for the bug you want it will tell you which version it was included in |
| 02:16 |
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wizzyrea |
3.14.010309 < for example |
| 02:25 |
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bag |
yeah that seems like extra steps ;) |
| 02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
bs |
| 02:26 |
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bag |
bs? |
| 02:26 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... bs is coming :D |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5979: Update INSERT IGNORE INTO statement <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]03a33dcdbfacd26bb> / Bug 5979 - Follow up: Change ISBD syspref description and fix warning in t/Biblio... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9aa859735aff3623e> / Bug 5979: follow to fix spelling <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 1750 - Report bor_issues_top erroneous and truncated results. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]22782ac3af7a0ad0c> / DBRev update - Bug 5979 - Add separate OPACISBD system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]731e59adbe0546780> |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
bbiab |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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* andreashm |
waves |
| 07:30 |
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andreashm |
so, where are the patches for adding to the hold functionality in the QA process? |
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andreashm |
Bug 15532 for instance has a QA follow-up added. what's the next step? |
| 07:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to allow only items whose home/holding branch matches the hold's pickup branch to fill a given hold |
| 07:31 |
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andreashm |
And And bug 15533 has a patch added by jajm. It's still waiting for QA? |
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magnuse |
i think the qa team can "sign off" on qa followups? |
| 07:31 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15533 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Allow patrons and librarians to select itemtype when placing hold |
| 07:32 |
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andreashm |
And finally, bug 15534 needs another sign-off. Anyone care to take a look? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add the ability to prevent a patron from placing a hold on a record with available items |
| 07:32 |
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magnuse |
the "Signed Off" status should mean the patches are waiting for attention from the qa team |
| 07:33 |
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andreashm |
Sorry for spamming about this, but I'm trying to be efficient this morning while trying to feed my daugther porridge. =) |
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magnuse |
the occasional poke does not hurt :-) |
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andreashm |
@magnuse: yeah. but if it's been QA:ed and then had a follow up - is there a process for this? Or should I just wait gently in the boat? =) |
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huginn |
andreashm: downloading the Perl source |
| 07:34 |
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* andreashm |
is more like wawing a stick around than doing gentle pokes. Not enough time for that. =) |
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andreashm |
waving |
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cait |
hm |
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andreashm |
morning btw. |
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cait |
soeone tried to fill itemlost_on by mapping it to a marc field and import? |
| 07:36 |
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andreashm |
cait, magnuse etc. |
| 07:36 |
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cait |
they are all signed off |
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cait |
so it's qa's turn |
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cait |
i hope to get to test them - or hope someone else will in time |
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andreashm |
Great |
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* andreashm |
was unsure if 15532 was in qa or what it's status was (since there was a qa follwo-up added) |
| 07:41 |
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cait |
bug 15532 |
| 07:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to allow only items whose home/holding branch matches the hold's pickup branch to fill a given hold |
| 07:41 |
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andreashm |
that's me. stupid questions an not so gentle poking, all rolled up in one |
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cait |
please no poking, i am sore all over already |
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cait |
@later tell khall do you know if there is a way to fill itemlost_on on import? I tried mapping it to Q - but it doesn't get added. Tried 2015-01-01 and 2015-01-01 12:00:00. out of ideas. |
| 07:43 |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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andreashm |
ok, time to entertain the 11 month old. later #koha |
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jajm |
does someone have access to bug 15111 ? cait maybe ? |
| 08:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15111 is not accessible. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I picked Jasmine because it was said to be much easier to get started with than Mocha/Chai |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: tho I am not sure if that is the case. Jasmine is missing a commandline test runner |
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alex_a |
jajm: no. I'm not authorized |
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alex_a |
May be a secret bug :) |
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cait |
marcelr++ |
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cait |
jajm: checking |
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cait |
jajm: are you logged into bugzilla? |
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cait |
you are on the list to see it |
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jajm |
cait, marcel gave me access it's ok :) |
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jajm |
thanks |
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cait |
ah good |
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cait |
maybe contact rangi - he might be able to put you on the list internally, so you get automatically added |
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cait |
it makes a lot of sense for rmaint :) |
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cait |
jajm: i still have to finish routing lists - but i am on it |
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cait |
possibly beginning next week |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora oleonard |
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barton |
morning oleonard! |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
| 12:31 |
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oleonard |
So it's Friday, what are we doing today, nothing? |
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magnuse |
pizza! |
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* tcohen |
might re-test ES patchset |
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oleonard |
Okay magnuse but we're going to add another 1000 bugs while you're making it. |
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nengard |
no no no no |
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nengard |
bugs are for squashing not for making |
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oleonard |
Oh wait no magnuse, nengard is not down for pizza. |
| 12:36 |
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nengard |
yes pizza |
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nengard |
no bugs |
| 12:36 |
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nengard |
:) |
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oleonard |
I don't know I hear crickets are all the rage with the foodies these days. |
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magnuse |
pizza > bugs |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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nengard |
ewww oleonard |
| 13:03 |
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oleonard |
Anyone need an easy Friday signoff? Bug 16238 |
| 13:03 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16238 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQuery in staff client: use .prop() instead of .attr() |
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oleonard |
I just added a patch that is whitespace changes only |
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drojf |
lol |
| 13:08 |
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drojf |
should be tested in a package install first |
| 13:08 |
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drojf |
with and without plack, with and without ES |
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tcohen |
jajm: are you available? |
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jajm |
tcohen, yep |
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Alex_ |
Hi. Can someone help me with a question I have? |
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nengard |
maybe ;) |
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Alex_ |
:) When importing from a staged file. Does koha add items from the p82$b field? |
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Alex_ |
When selecting always add items in the items processing option |
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drojf |
p92? |
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drojf |
err |
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drojf |
p82? |
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drojf |
koha expects item data in 952 |
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oleonard |
drojf: Does Koha require it, or can you set it up differently in Koha to MARC mapping? |
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drojf |
oleonard: you probably can. i never tried. i'd assume its usually easier to map it to 952 in your data before import |
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drojf |
p82 does not really sound like marc, so i don't think you can map that in koha. or its a typo? |
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Alex_ |
Really what we want is that when we get our full marc records from our vendor for our orders, when importing the mrc file koha adds say five items to the bib record automatically with ordered status. Is this possible? |
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kidclamp |
952 shows up a lot in the code, I think it is hard coded |
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drojf |
you might want to have a look at the templates for marc modification |
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Alex_ |
Ok thanks everyone |
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drojf |
kidclamp: koha does not use 952 internally, items are in their own table. its only used for import and export. so if you get in in correctly once that should be ok |
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drojf |
have not tried moving item data with the templates but might be possible |
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eythian |
unimarc uses something other than 952 iirc. |
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Alex_ |
So for the "item processing: alwasys add items" option on the Manage staged Marc records tool it is drawing from the 952 field? |
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Alex_ |
For koha to recognize item data the 952 fields must be present in the .mrc file? |
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oleonard |
Alex_ are you using MARC21 or UNIMARC. Or something else? |
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Alex_ |
Marc21 |
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oleonard |
And where is the item data in your MARC records? |
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Alex_ |
Our vendor puts the number of items they send us in the 090$y field |
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Alex_ |
So if we get 5 copies of the hobbit |
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Alex_ |
They put 5 as the value for 090$y |
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oleonard |
But what about the actual item data? |
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drojf |
i made a tiny survey for a workshop at the upcoming hackfests. if you are going please donate half a minute of your time and answer http://abunchofthings.net/lime[…]hp/396251?lang=en |
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Alex_ |
We process items in house |
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kidclamp |
right drojf, not sure how up to date this still is, but import used to be tied to 952 it seems https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
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Alex_ |
So the item data is added here |
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drojf |
kidclamp: at least i would not want to make it work with a different field. thats what modification templates are for |
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oleonard |
Alex_: Okay, and where do you put the item data? |
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kidclamp |
drojf - agreed |
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Alex_ |
Let me check |
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Alex_ |
Im not entirely sure. The marc record only shows 942$c or item type |
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oleonard |
What tool do you use to catalog, Alex_? |
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Alex_ |
We add items to a bib using koha. We add items by searching for a bib and using the new 》 item option. |
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bye |
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oleonard |
Alex_ if you do your cataloging within Koha why are you asking about importing records? |
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Alex_ |
Twell we import the initial bib record a mrc file we get from our vendor. |
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Alex_ |
The initial record r |
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oleonard |
So where is the item data in those MARC records? |
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Alex_ |
It doesnt exust.. |
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Alex_ |
Exist |
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Alex_ |
The system we use is unusual |
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Alex_ |
What we'd like is for the item data to be there...but only the ordered status to be included |
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Alex_ |
For each physical book |
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oleonard |
Alex_ if the MARC data contains no item records how do you expect the items to be imported? |
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drojf |
Magic::MARC |
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Alex_ |
Yes..a gooÄ point. Our vendor puts the number of books in the 090$y field. This is not recognized by koha as the number of items. |
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oleonard |
Alex_ the number of items doesn't mean anything if there is no item data corresponding to that number |
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drojf |
no. because you would have to create items |
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drojf |
if they are not there |
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Alex_ |
Ok..so i should tell them to include data in the 952 field? |
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Alex_ |
In the records they send us? |
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Alex_ |
Our vendor that is |
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oleonard |
Alex_ if you want items to be imported you have to import MARC records which contain item data. |
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oleonard |
And yes, 952 is recommended. |
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Alex_ |
Even if we have just one subfield present...like not for loan...koha will recognize the item when importing the records via the mrc file we get from our vendor? |
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drojf |
you can't create an item by a not for loan field and nothing else |
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drojf |
koha expects at least the branch code and item type, also a barcode makes sense of its supposed to be on circulation |
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drojf |
*if |
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drojf |
ok its probably not going to be on circulation if its not for loan. anyway it does not make much sense to add an item with no information about it |
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oleonard |
Alex_ who do you get your MARC records from, if you don't mind my asking? |
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drojf |
i wanted to ask that too :) |
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Alex_ |
Our vendor recommended we automate the process but we have our process here...albeit an unusual one...where we do a lot of the work in house. |
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Alex_ |
The easiest solution...it seems...is just importing the records with no attached items and adding items..which is what we would do anyways. The only thing I really was curious about is if we could have empty item records attached with something like "ordered" status and nothing else until we manually filled in the rest. |
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Alex_ |
I know this seems strange. |
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oleonard |
Alex_: That seems like something you could ask your vendor to do. As far as I know Koha's MARC modification tools will not do that for you. |
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Alex_ |
Ok thank you oleonard. You all have been a great help. |
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Alex_ |
Socratic method works. |
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oleonard |
You're welcome |
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drojf |
eythian: i had a look at the two debian packaging pages in the wiki. and i saw that yours uses build-git-snapshot too. i thought that was not for proper releases (i think it even says it in the file) |
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eythian |
drojf: the manual process I used didn't use that |
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drojf |
so… that on the wiki was the successor of the manual process? |
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eythian |
I don't know which page you're referring to there |
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drojf |
ah sorry |
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drojf |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_Debian_Packages |
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eythian |
yeah, so what I actually did was replace build-git-snapshot with 'git archive ...' and 'pdebuild ...' |
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eythian |
that way I could get the version stuff right. |
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eythian |
I always meant to make it into its own script, but never actually did. |
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drojf |
ah ok |
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drojf |
so you handcraftet releases. hehe |
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eythian |
yeah, problem was that doing it manually a couple of times per month didn't lend itself to spending hours writing and testing a script. |
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drojf |
yeah |
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eythian |
I used that script pasted there for doing the master releases though |
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tcohen |
what's wrong with build-git-snapshot? |
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eythian |
if you can talk it into doing the versions correctly, not really much. But a proper package building system should be used really. |
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* eythian |
goes away |
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tcohen |
then, what's wrong with the versions? |
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drojf |
and whats a proper package building system? |
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tcohen |
like picking the version from the tags or smth like that? |
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drojf |
so many questions! don't go away!! |
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tcohen |
i use build-git-snapshot monthly, for 3 branches |
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tcohen |
in my own repo, and didn't notice any issues |
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drojf |
lousy eythian having somwhere else to go on a friday evening |
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tcohen |
but maybe is just that i'm not following debian guidelines regarding versioning properly |
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* tcohen |
is sure about that |
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drojf |
that might very well be the case |
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tcohen |
what's that 3.22, 3.20 and master 'distributions' anyway? |
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drojf |
hm? |
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tcohen |
deb https://theke.io/repo/koha 3.22 main |
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tcohen |
deb https://theke.io/repo/koha master main |
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tcohen |
and so on |
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tcohen |
not really kosher |
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drojf |
i was wondering if that is ok when i saw your repo. because it would be nice to have other options than stable and oldstable, maybe. we may gave 3 or 4 branches that are maintained, but no packages for some of them |
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drojf |
*have |
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tcohen |
that train passed a couple years back |
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tcohen |
never convinced eythian |
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tcohen |
and that's why i wouldn't run for packaging manager |
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drojf |
eythian: is gone :P |
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drojf |
because of oldstable and stable? |
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tcohen |
i'm not sure we should try so hard to have koha-common official in debian |
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tcohen |
i'm happy having the deps there |
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drojf |
we try? |
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tcohen |
of course |
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tcohen |
otherwise stable and oldstable is just non-sense |
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drojf |
who is trying what about it atm? |
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tcohen |
why forcing end-users into a major upgrade unless they know they need to change to oldstable to prevent it? |
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tcohen |
i like virtualbox's approach |
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tcohen |
have koha-3.22, koha-3.20 packages |
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drojf |
we don't force anybody, you have to make a dist-upgrade for that |
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tcohen |
and a koha package, that can be provided by either |
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tcohen |
drojf: that's only if there are dep changes |
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tcohen |
from another POV, you would be then preventing the end user from having regular monthly updates |
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tcohen |
unless they point their repo to oldstable |
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drojf |
well, if you want to run a server you have to take care of some things |
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tcohen |
well, why not change it so it is easier? |
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drojf |
not saying we shouldn't |
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drojf |
that was actually the point why i asked ;) |
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drojf |
i don't upgrade anyone to a xx.xx.0 release, so i have to change repos for every release |
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drojf |
plus the point of no packages for maintained releases > 2 |
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drojf |
on the other hand, i am all for getting koha into debian |
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drojf |
i don't see it coming any time soon though |
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drojf |
no reason not to do things correctly. whatever that means exactly |
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drojf |
i hope a debian workshop will help to figure that out ;) |
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oleonard |
See you later #koha |
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i should go home, but i'm too tired |
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hello, i was curious if there is a step by step installation guide somewhere for debian jessie? going through getting and setting up the dependencies |
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gilven |
and pre-requisites |
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kidclamp |
gilven https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
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cait |
Joubu: night shift? |
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bag |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi bag |
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Nuentoter |
Question, I just finished setting up everything I need in koha on a test server, just installed koha on a production server, when I import the database, is it only records, items, and patrons? Will I need to setup library branch again and all that? |
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oleonard |
Nuentoter, the database has all that |
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Nuentoter |
Ok cool,I stopped because I didn't want to do a bunch of stuff that would just be written over anyway. Is there anything that isn't imported? |
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oleonard |
Anything which is configured in files I suppose. koha-conf.xml or something like that. |
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Nuentoter |
Nice, hopefully will have koha up and running in daily use in the next week then. Can't wait! Can finally scrap spectrum/Winnebago and have something to show town council before end of fiscal year. They like it when I save the town's people done $$$ |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16296 - Fix records displaying in virtualshelves <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7fabf07e9e91d3607> / Bug 16317 - Attempt to share private list results in error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f658d4a43b8944f6c> |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16216: Circulation_Branch.t doesn't set itemtype for test data <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bb7d2c02e10f42a40> / Bug 16220 [Compiled CSS] The view tabs on opac-detail.pl are not responsive <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]264b7ce4aa10b10ed> / Bug 16220 - The view tabs on opac-detail.pl are not responsive <ht |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12267: [QA Follow-up] Adjust installer files; tiny text edit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3c764f3fd80f10cea> / Bug 12267: Remove borrower_attributes.password <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]518a2978d2385ba14> |
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New commit(s) kohagit: DBREV Bug 12267 - Allow password option in Patron Attribute non functional <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]79512a970db8d7e76> |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Missed $ in commit... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cd961821add28557b> |
