IRC log for #koha, 2016-02-17

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02:45 sjamso hello.. Can we install Koha 3.22 on Ubuntu 15.04?
02:46 sjamso Please I need help. I couldnot install koha 3.22 on Ubuntu 15.04. Any suggesstions.
02:50 wizzyrea that should work, where are you getting hung up?
02:52 sjamso I cannot even wget http://download.koha-community[…]oha-latest.tar.gz --2016-02-17 08:38:24--  http://download.koha-community[…]oha-latest.tar.gz from the source
02:53 sjamso HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2016-02-17 08:51:32 ERROR 404: Not Found.  the Error message shown while trying to download
02:56 sjamso I tried manually downloading and putting the software in /usr/share folder through ftp and I installed all the dependencies but when I try to check the dependencies with the command ./ -m -u
02:57 sjamso It shows the message .. -bash: ./ No such file or directory
02:57 sjamso where am I doing wrong
02:58 wizzyrea you aren't doing it with the packages like you should
02:58 wizzyrea debian packages?
02:58 wahanui i guess debian packages is a good way
02:58 wizzyrea koha on debian?
02:58 wahanui[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian
02:58 wizzyrea ^ debian is close enough to ubuntu to use these canonical instructions
02:59 sjamso Thats true..
02:59 wizzyrea the process is exactly the same, anyway.
03:00 wizzyrea you would only use the source if you wanted to use centos or suse as your distro.
03:00 sjamso Earlier I installed koha 3.18 on Ubuntu 14.04. The installation was successful. But now I want to upgrade both koha and ubuntu to the latest release.
03:01 sjamso Now I cannot install the new Koha on my upgraded ubuntu
03:01 wizzyrea have you tried doing it with the packages?
03:02 dcook If you're using ICU indexing, I'd recommend against upgrading Ubuntu atm
03:03 sjamso @wizzyrea, packages?.. Apology...I didn't get it.
03:03 huginn sjamso: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
03:03 wizzyrea[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian
03:03 sjamso @huginn thank you
03:03 huginn sjamso: downloading the Perl source
03:03 wizzyrea huginn is a bot
03:03 huginn wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
03:04 wizzyrea he's keyed on things that start with @
03:05 sjamso wizzyrea..ya I tried with the packages too
03:06 sjamso didnt help me
03:11 dcook sjamso: So what didn't work when you tried the packages?
03:12 dcook "Córdoba, Argentina: Soccer Player Fatally Shoots Referee After Receiving Red Card, Reports Say"
03:12 * dcook looks towards tcohen
03:12 dcook Ah, he's not around atm anyway
03:13 sjamso dcook I installed all the dependencies but when I check for missing dependencies.. it shows nothing
03:14 dcook ...
03:14 dcook If you installed using the Debian packages, then you don't need to worry about dependencies
03:14 dcook As apt-get will tell you if something wasn't installed correctly
03:15 dcook But if you're running "./ -m -u", that means you weren't using packages, as that script shouldn't be available with packages
03:16 dcook Ah, I see you, you've written "-bash: ./ No such file or directory"
03:16 dcook sjamso: What installation instructions are you following?
03:17 sjamso I am using the INSTALL manual present in the Koha package
03:17 dcook What do you mean when you say "Koha package"?
03:17 dcook How did you obtain the "Koha package"?
03:17 wizzyrea you really need to be using the koha debian repository, and the koha apt packages.
03:18 wizzyrea with apt-get install
03:18 dcook I think someone may have provided a link somewhere to the instructions on how to install Koha using the Debian packages
03:19 dcook sjamso: If you are using ICU indexing, I would recommend not upgrading to Ubuntu 15.10 though. Newer versions of Ubuntu have a buggy version of the Zebra indexing engine, and those bugs haven't been sorted out yet.
03:19 dcook And I imagine you are using ICU indexing
03:20 dcook Alas, I don't know when a good time to upgrade to a newer OS would be. I haven't heard back from the developers of Zebra yet regarding the problems.
03:21 sjamso Ok. Thank you wizzrea and dcook.. May be the best sollution would be to install koha on Debian. That would solve all the problem.
03:22 dcook Sorry, I should've clarified that as well.
03:22 dcook Since Ubuntu is based on Debian, newer versions of Debian will have the same problem.
03:23 dcook I'll check which ones in fact
03:23 dcook Yes, Debian 8 Jessie has a buggy version of Zebra
03:23 dcook The last good one was Debian 7 Wheezy which is oldstable unfortunately
03:24 dcook Although now that I think about it.. I keep thinking that Ubuntu 14.04 is based on Jessie as well..
03:24 sjamso okii.. So I should stick with Debian 7?
03:24 dcook Ah, 14.04 did have the good version of Zebra
03:24 dcook I'd say Debian 7 or Ubuntu 14.04 for now
03:24 dcook Unless you're using CHR indexing
03:24 dcook CHR indexing is fine on newer OSes
03:25 dcook But CHR is pretty much only used by English-only libraries, I think
03:25 * dcook isn't 100% about who all uses CHR
03:27 sjamso Ok. Thank you all
03:29 dcook np
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04:29 jcamins I updated the links on the Koha Community clone of the Koha git repo to be correct. Just so y'all know.
04:32 jeff jcamins++
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07:45 reiveune hello
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07:54 alex_a bonjour
07:54 wahanui hola, alex_a
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08:23 gaetan_B hello
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08:35 * magnuse waves
08:35 magnuse @wunder boo
08:35 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (9:20 AM CET on February 17, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
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09:00 Joubu hi
09:01 cait hi Joubu, hi #koha
09:01 magnuse bonjour le cait et le Joubu
09:08 cait huh?
09:09 magnuse just trying to be funny in french - probably not succeeding :-)
09:09 magnuse gah wizzyrea has sprinted ahead of me in the commits count!
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09:53 Joubu dcook: around?
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10:18 irma hi mtj, this tiket is an urgent one[…]play.html?id=1664
10:19 irma could you pls look at what the problem might be?
10:19 irma thank you
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10:28 drojf hi #koha
10:31 magnuse moin drojf
10:31 drojf hei magnuse
10:31 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:31 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 3.0°C (11:20 AM CET on February 17, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling).
10:31 magnuse @wunder boo
10:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (11:20 AM CET on February 17, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
10:32 magnuse @wunder marseille
10:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 6.0°C (11:00 AM CET on February 17, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
10:33 cait moin drojf
10:34 drojf hi cait
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11:27 Joubu Could someone confirm that the inputs in the header search are not displayed in tabs?
11:27 Joubu (master)
11:28 Joubu hum, it must come from my install, forget it
11:41 cait lunch
12:00 drojf Joubu: translation maybe? my dev install looks very broken in german atm
12:01 Joubu drojf: no, I have just enabled NoScript when testing my last patch...
12:01 Joubu I always forget to disable it!
12:06 drojf heh
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12:39 oleonard Hi #koha
12:40 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
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13:13 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:13 mtompset @seen wizzyrea
13:13 huginn mtompset: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 9 hours, 55 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> with apt-get install
13:23 oleonard mtompset: Remember, wizzyrea is on New Zealand time
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13:35 mtompset True enough, oleonard.
13:35 drojf1 hm
13:35 mtompset She didn't understand my Failed QA, so I wanted to discuss it.
13:36 mtompset Guess I'll try to catch her tonight.
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13:53 oleonard Is no one else getting random errors from Bugzilla when trying to make changes?
13:56 nengard um ... i haven't tried to change a bug report today
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13:58 cait oleonard: hm not so far
13:58 cait mid-air collision? or something else?
13:58 oleonard No, big scary red error that includes "This should not happen" But then my changes are submitted anyway.
13:58 * oleonard will copy the error next time
13:59 oleonard It's happened a couple of times with git-bz and a couple of times in the web interface.
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14:08 cait hm sometimes renewal notices appear as one notice with multiple entries and sometiems single notices for each book...
14:08 cait *sigh*
14:08 cait why?
14:17 Joubu khall: it seems that bug 9303 adds privacy_guarantor_checkouts with not null default 0
14:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , relative's checkouts in the opac
14:17 Joubu khall: when importing patrons with a csv file which does not contain this column in the header
14:17 Joubu I get:
14:17 Joubu DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Column 'privacy_guarantor_checkouts' cannot be null at /home/koha/src/C4/ line 768
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14:18 khall Joubu: file a bug report and send it my way
14:20 Joubu khall: bug 15842
14:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15842 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, ASSIGNED , Cannot import patrons if the csv file does not contain privacy_guarantor_checkouts
14:20 khall thanks!
14:21 Joubu The import patron tool is scary. If you import a csv file which contains the same number of columns of the table, the tool assumes that the headers are in the same order as the column's table
14:21 khall egad!
14:22 cait egad?
14:23 Joubu something like "ho f***" I'd say :)
14:23 cait oh
14:23 cait i am still puzzled by the renewal notice :(
14:26 cait i mean... it should not be possible :( it's located in AddRenewal - that seems to be called by itemnumber
14:26 cait so it should always be the same
14:26 cait if you renewa all, some or a single one... they all call that for each itemnumber... and then the renewal notice is generated ah huh.
14:27 cait so why would it send out muitple notices sometiems... and then one with a list at othr times...
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14:27 * cait digs deeper - sorry
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14:35 * cait has no idea why it happens and gives up
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15:01 mtompset oleonard: Have you updated you git bz? Sometimes I find people update the tools without telling people. :)
15:03 mtompset cait: How about you blame the cronjob ordering bug? ;)
15:04 cait not to blame in this case
15:04 cait and don't remind me
15:04 cait still don't knwo what to do there, only kno w right now it's totally wrong.
15:04 * mtompset chuckles, "Sorry."
15:04 cait we will just keep our well working customization then.
15:05 cait using packages seems to make things easier - i think they wait for each other?
15:05 mtompset cait: Well, I say choose a consistent wrong and go with it. :)
15:08 oleonard mtompset: That would explain the git-bz error but not the error when I use the web interface
15:08 mtompset The web interface has updated, perhaps you have stale cache?
15:08 mtompset I'm totally guessing.
15:11 oleonard git says I tested Bug 12138 and I guess it must be right but I don't remember it.
15:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12138 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, CLOSED FIXED, Use placeholders in translatable javascript strings
15:13 oleonard I was going to say I needed git for my brain, but then I started thinking about what could go wrong with a bad merge and having to git reset --hard 1990-01-01
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15:17 LibraryClaire flights and hotel booked for KohaCon :)
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15:40 cait wow
15:40 cait LibraryClaire++
15:40 cait how long are you staying?
15:41 LibraryClaire the week, sun - sun
15:42 cait very cool :)
15:42 cait did you see the wiki page for the arrivals?
15:42 LibraryClaire ooh, no
15:42 oleonard https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_is_arriving_when
15:42 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_is_arriving_when
15:42 cait jinx :)
15:42 LibraryClaire haha :)
15:43 cait oh cool
15:43 cait fredericd
15:43 wahanui i heard fredericd was translation manager for 3.8
15:43 oleonard LibraryClaire: Don't forget to put down that you have a pet lion in case someone goes to burgle your house while you're gone:
15:44 LibraryClaire lol!
15:44 LibraryClaire angry badger should do the trick
15:44 cait rofl
15:46 LibraryClaire I'll add my arrival details etc once I have an account ;)
15:50 cait have you already signed up?
15:50 * cait chekcs the queue
15:51 cait you shoudl have an email now
15:51 LibraryClaire nothing yet
15:51 cait hm maybe just try to login
15:52 LibraryClaire wonder if I mistyped my email
15:53 cait hm not sure
15:53 cait or the email feature is not working
15:53 cait login doesn't work?
15:55 LibraryClaire no, cos i don't have a password, so i tried it anyway and then asked it to email me a new one
15:55 LibraryClaire but no email from that either
15:55 cait hm
15:55 cait i think i don't see the user details
15:55 cait let me see
15:55 cait not after accepting... but trying to find it
15:56 LibraryClaire aha!
15:56 cait it arrived?
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15:57 LibraryClaire I got an email to click a link, yeah :)
15:57 cait oh good :)
15:58 LibraryClaire thanks
15:59 LibraryClaire Off for now, laters all :)
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16:05 cbrannon Anyone know why https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14171 shows as a new circulation feature in 3.22?
16:05 huginn Bug 14171: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Buttons instead of links in messages
16:09 Joubu cbrannon: that's very weird!
16:10 Joubu cbrannon: you should ping tcohen
16:10 cait cbrannon: possibly... a typo in a commit message
16:11 cait we fixed some, but maybe not all
16:11 cait it parses the numbers from git
16:11 * cait blames Joubu
16:11 cait[…]3c4e20503d86b28bf
16:12 cait ;)
16:12 Joubu oops :)
16:12 Joubu 14171 vs 14717
16:12 cait some were more obviosu
16:13 cbrannon My work here is done.
16:13 cait this one got robably lost in the mass of bug fixes :)
16:23 Joubu bye #koha
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16:59 bag morning
17:01 oleonard Hi bag
17:01 bag hi oleonard
17:17 drojf lots of koha stuff in europe this year
17:17 drojf awesome!
17:17 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, drojf
17:17 drojf so worth it
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17:24 drojf @wunder rome
17:24 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
17:24 drojf @wunder rome, italy
17:24 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Largo di Torre Argentina, Roma, Italy is 14.6°C (6:17 PM CET on February 17, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
17:24 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
17:24 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (6:20 PM CET on February 17, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
17:24 drojf yeah well rome it is
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17:27 oleonard @wunder 45701
17:27 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 1.5°C (12:27 PM EST on February 17, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
17:27 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5
17:27 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is -1.0°C (12:11 PM EST on February 17, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
17:29 mtompset who collects for the jar of the word that starts with awe? Or is it just a virtual gag?
17:30 oleonard Send dollars to me mtompset.
17:31 mtompset But it was drojf  that triggered it. :P He owes you the $1. ;)
17:32 oleonard[…]tompset&q=awesome
17:32 drojf i don't have $1 :P
17:33 pianohacker the defense may now present its case
17:33 mtompset When was the jar instituted?
17:34 bag mtompset: the koha international fund should collect :)
17:34 mtompset As of the date the jar was set up, sure. :P
17:36 mtompset I would guess 2013-02-09
17:39 mtompset So, if I owe anything to the jar -- it's $15.
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17:41 oleonard The sad cost of thinking things are awesome and expressing it...
17:42 mtompset No, just using that word alone seems to trigger it.
17:42 mtompset And so, I posit I owe nothing! :P
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18:03 gaetan_B bye
18:16 oleonard Everyone drop everything and devote all your resources to fixing Bug 15794! Koha will not survive if I can't tag a record in the OPAC with an emoji of a pile of poo.
18:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15794 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Allow the use of emojis as tags on records
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18:42 mtompset oleonard: How would one enter U+1F4A9?
18:44 pianohacker Option-Shift-Poop
18:44 mtompset That's probably only available on a CRAP-PLE keyboard. ;)
18:46 oleonard That's another way OS/#2 was ahead of it's time.
18:50 * mtompset chuckles.
18:50 mtompset Nice, oleonard
18:51 mtompset Okay, actually we may have a UTF-8/unicode type bug.
18:51 mtompset I tagged a book with 💩
18:51 mtompset and -- yes that's the unicode --
18:51 mtompset and when I go to look at my tags, nothing is displayed.
18:51 mtompset in the box.
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18:52 mtompset Now, why in the world they'd tag them with unicode character rather than plain text, I don't understand, but if it saves it, it should display it.
18:53 mtompset Because, kidclamp, an item is good or it is 💩.
18:53 oleonard Are there any other emoji? I've never seen them.
18:53 mtompset Yes.
18:53 mtompset[…]l-emoji-list.html
18:54 kidclamp mtompset++
18:54 oleonard :|
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18:56 mtompset And granted, 🔫, does look cooler than typing pistol. :)
18:57 kidclamp
18:57 kidclamp hmm...not all work
18:58 mtompset And we don't want to give anyone a 💔 (broken heart)
18:58 oleonard kidclamp: Hence the problem with devoting development time to such a feature.
18:58 mtompset I don't think it is a feature, oleonard.
18:58 mtompset I think it is a bug fix.
18:59 mtompset I should be able to type 💔 and have it show up in my tags.
18:59 mtompset I suspect this is a utf-8/unicode issue we missed.
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19:55 oleonard Bye all
19:58 magnuse druthb!
19:58 wahanui druthb is an amazing person
19:58 magnuse yay
19:58 druthb lies!  All lies!
19:59 mtompset Heee heee... druthb is an AWESOME person. ;)
20:01 * druthb hides
20:05 mtj hiya #koha
20:06 mtj mtompset: i think i agree, re: unicode bug ^
20:08 mtj ..its probably an issue for many unicode chars - not just emoji
20:09 mtj like a general CJK char
20:09 mtompset Yes, but emoji are what makes it visible. :)
20:09 mtompset (from an english context)
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20:20 mtj the bug is visible with other non-emoji chars
20:25 pianohacker mtj: non-BMP, maybe?
20:26 talljoy o/ druthb!
20:27 druthb o/
20:27 druthb Hi, talljoy. :)
20:27 talljoy hows things?
20:27 druthb chugging along decently.  Coming to Houston in April for TLA?
20:27 talljoy nope.  bummer
20:28 talljoy i'm scheduled to go to gruppo italiano in rome in march
20:28 druthb !  For reals a bummer--would love to see you.
20:28 talljoy yah, totally
20:28 talljoy been too long!
20:28 druthb If you get down this way, holler--would love to have you visit the Lair.
20:29 druthb Indeed.  :)   How's the Purser doing?
20:30 mtj pianohacker: yeah, or other SMP chars?
20:30 mtj[…]ultilingual_Plane
20:32 talljoy oh the purser is well.  never sits still that one.
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20:35 druthb :)
20:35 * druthb waves, and runs away to hide more.
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20:45 magnuse yeah, going to rome in march sounds like a real drag... :-)
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21:08 mtj talljoy: congrats re: Rome :p
21:09 talljoy thanks!
21:09 talljoy magnuse  someone must bear the burden.  i gladly sacrificed my time.
21:09 talljoy :-P
21:10 magnuse very noble of you, talljoy!
21:10 talljoy indeed.
21:10 talljoy ha!
21:10 talljoy brendan and I are going to be on the hunt for the perfect gnocchi!
21:11 mtj magnuse:  i discovered this last night...
21:12 talljoy scandivanian yodeling?
21:12 mtj yep, exactly talljoy
21:14 mtj caution, its a rabbithole
21:17 talljoy pretty though.  found a youtube video.  stunning.
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22:02 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "Getting stuck in a database upgrade loop after upgrading Koha package" (3 lines) at
22:03 oleonard Do those errors mean anything to anyone?
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22:52 dcook Hmm how to do this again..
22:52 * dcook waves to oleonard
22:52 oleonard Hi dcook
22:52 dcook @last dcook
22:52 huginn dcook: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
22:52 dcook @last --with dcook
22:52 huginn dcook: [22:52:42] <dcook> @last dcook
22:52 * dcook facepalm
22:52 wahanui rumour has it facepalm is a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity
22:53 oleonard Ha
22:53 dcook @last --with dcook --nolimit
22:53 dcook @last --nolimit --with dcook
22:53 dcook :S
22:53 pianohacker *tick*
22:53 pianohacker *tick*
22:53 pianohacker *tick*
22:53 dcook I know pianohacker knows this one :p
22:53 pianohacker @success
22:54 pianohacker I think huginn just exploded in a cloud of feathers
22:54 huginn dcook: [22:52:53] <dcook> @last --with dcook, [22:52:42] <dcook> @last dcook, and [22:52:41] <oleonard> Hi dcook
22:54 huginn dcook: [22:54:26] <dcook> @last --with dcook --nolimit, [22:52:53] <dcook> @last --with dcook, [22:52:42] <dcook> @last dcook, and [22:52:41] <oleonard> Hi dcook
22:54 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
22:55 dcook I went with the wizzyrea method in the end
22:55 dcook Joubu asking about me ages ago..
22:55 dcook How are things, American fellows?
22:55 wizzyrea wait what's my method?
22:56 * oleonard is having upgrade problems
22:56 dcook wizzyrea: Ctrl+F :p
22:56 dcook oleonard: Yikes :(
22:56 wizzyrea hmm
22:57 wizzyrea current master?
22:57 pianohacker oleonard: I think all of those are red herrings, unfortunately :/
22:57 pianohacker any other errors?
22:57 oleonard gitified package installation
22:57 wizzyrea what does it say on your screen?
22:58 oleonard Oh but you know what, it doesn't tell you if you put in the wrong password. I wonder if I have passwords mixed up between VMs...
22:59 pianohacker xmlstarlet sel -t -v '//pass/text()' ~/l/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml
23:00 oleonard That was the problem! It didn't occur to me until just now that it wouldn't warn me if I put in the wrong password.
23:01 dcook hehe
23:01 dcook I'm glad that I'm not the only one who has these problems someitmes
23:01 dcook sometimes*
23:01 oleonard dcook: So now everything is great :)
23:01 dcook :D
23:01 dcook Great to hear!
23:02 * oleonard dispatches someone to hunt down and catch red herrings
23:03 wizzyrea yay
23:03 wizzyrea !
23:03 dcook That reminds me of a video game from back in the day..
23:03 wizzyrea wolfenstein
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23:04 dcook Mmm I don't think so
23:04 dcook Although I totally forgot that name until now
23:04 dcook I'd seen screenshots recently but could not remember the name (as they were using a different and incorrect name for the screenshot)
23:04 dcook This was a more obscure game. I played so many computer games back in the day O_O. Can't keep them all straight.
23:05 dcook Hey, pianohacker, did you ever play "Loom"?
23:05 pianohacker dcook: descent? doom? breakout?
23:05 pianohacker dcook: oh, that rings a quiet bell
23:05 dcook[…]ce_screenshot.png
23:05 dcook "What do you mean IRC doesn't automatically load pictures?"
23:05 pianohacker whoah
23:05 dcook I loved that game
23:06 * dcook has pretty much no musical talent though, of course
23:06 pianohacker this sounds cool!
23:06 pianohacker I wonder if it's on gog?
23:06 dcook gog?
23:07 pianohacker oh man
23:07 pianohacker
23:07 dcook :D
23:07 pianohacker dcook: apologies for only telling you this as you're about to become a dad ;)
23:08 dcook haha
23:08 dcook I have a stack of games at home which I haven't played in years for lack of time
23:08 dcook These days, if I have time for computers, it's usually related to Android or Ansible
23:08 * dcook misses the gym...
23:09 pianohacker there's always at-home bodyweight workouts :)
23:09 dcook True true
23:09 dcook I haven't done yoga much in years but I have the mat as well
23:09 dcook Always seems like there's so much else going on :S
23:09 * dcook looks at looming parenthood and knows it's only going to get worse :p
23:10 dcook Ahh ScummVM. I saw a reference to that at
23:10 dcook DOSBox + Sword of the Samurai = :D
23:12 pianohacker that's one of the best parts of gog, they ship prepackaged dosboxen that work on mac, windows or linux
23:12 dcook :3
23:13 dcook Huh... looks like ScummVM has the Loom character on their banner:
23:13 dcook Monkey Island was another classic..
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