IRC log for #koha, 2016-01-07

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00:52 dcook Blah, bloody matching rules...
00:53 dcook @later tell eythian Awesome, although I can't see it changing much :(
00:53 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
00:55 dcook Ahh maybe it's crashing because of that NorwegianPatronDB thing..
00:56 dcook Mmm  I don't think so..
01:01 dcook wth...
01:01 dcook We're still using ISO Marc in
01:05 dcook So the query is working but something else is failing..
01:09 dcook Required match check fail..
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01:11 talljoy @later tell khall can you tell me why CIIS has custom code?  and why it would impact the serials module and/or the database structure?  If you point me to the db corrections needed, I can take a whack at it.  RT 30027
01:11 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.
01:12 talljoy thanks kidclamp for the update on ciis
01:12 talljoy @kidclamp++
01:12 huginn talljoy: downloading the Perl source
01:12 rangi w/w talljoy ?
01:12 rangi and happy new year
01:12 wizzyrea also hi
01:12 talljoy ha!  happy new year.
01:12 talljoy Heya wizzyrea
01:12 wahanui i think wizzyrea is so dumb at rewrite rules.
01:12 wizzyrea it's true.
01:12 wahanui I saw it on Digg!
01:12 talljoy pfft
01:13 talljoy i'm on mac and colloquy is so different from pidgin
01:13 talljoy i get all turned around.  like working in another timezone!
01:13 wizzyrea teehee
01:14 dcook Nowonder _passes_required_checks doesn't work... it's XML but it thinks it's ISO MARC
01:15 * dcook imagines no one must be using match checks or else all their imports must be going badly..
01:15 talljoy i've never found match checks to work.
01:15 talljoy they always just *failed* when i tried to implement.
01:15 dcook Yeah, I think I've found the same, and I've finally be frustrated enough to find out why... hehe
01:16 talljoy bless you!
01:16 talljoy i could use matchchecks if they worked!
01:16 talljoy mighty useful things in migrating data into consortiums
01:16 dcook Yeah, I've been thinking they'd be good
01:16 talljoy especially poorly cataloged libraries
01:17 dcook Looks like it's still broken in master, so I'll look at sending in a bug report now
01:17 talljoy "Why is my star wars DVD on this Hello Kitty record"
01:17 dcook While it's all still fresh
01:17 dcook hehe
01:17 talljoy i dunno....cuz your cataloger is lazy or inept?
01:17 dcook Did you see the Hello Kitty Darth Vader?
01:17 talljoy no, but i should now!!
01:17 dcook[…]y-darth-vader.jpg
01:17 dcook Relevant :D
01:17 wizzyrea ^ this is why your starwars dvd is on your hello kitty record.
01:18 talljoy *that* is funny
01:18 talljoy just snorted my coffee
01:18 talljoy i think we found the cataloger in question.
01:18 wizzyrea this is what happens when you turn up at odd hours :)
01:19 talljoy i need to do this more often.
01:19 talljoy this spring, i have to be out an about every night carting teens to sports/evening classes.
01:19 talljoy they don't drive yet, so i am in full on chauffeur mode.
01:19 dcook Oceania is pretty good value I think :p
01:19 talljoy and hanging at the starbucks.  :-/
01:19 dcook Driving age is pretty good
01:20 wizzyrea[…]5CoolStoryBro.gif
01:20 talljoy mix bag.  they can drive themselves.  but then i start to worry
01:20 wizzyrea sorry that isn't apropos anything
01:20 dcook wizzyrea: That's fantastic
01:20 wizzyrea I just found it funny
01:20 dcook talljoy: That's true
01:20 talljoy funny tho wizzyrea
01:20 dcook I think about some of the stupid things my friends did driving...
01:20 talljoy indeed.  me too!
01:20 dcook I just hope my kids take after me and are awesome drivers :D
01:20 talljoy my brothers 'injured' many cars in their misspent youths
01:21 wizzyrea[…]Nye122415Stop.gif I have a feeling we've all had this reaction >.>
01:21 dcook Ouch
01:21 dcook wizzyrea: hehehehe
01:21 talljoy daily in my situations.  hahaha
01:21 dcook I need to save these two for all my internet interactions
01:21 wizzyrea[…]ry=349614#gallery
01:21 wizzyrea there's a whole series
01:21 wizzyrea and they're all pretty good
01:21 wizzyrea[…]2415MindBlown.gif
01:22 wizzyrea[…]EmailResponse.gif
01:22 talljoy wizzyrea you have just become a hero to my 14 year old
01:22 talljoy he is enjoying the show
01:22 wizzyrea hehe
01:22 wizzyrea[…]ye122415Party.gif lulz
01:24 talljoy he just bookmarked these on his phone.
01:24 wizzyrea A+
01:24 talljoy i envision a few emails with these embedded.
01:25 dcook "1 records not staged because of MARC error"
01:25 dcook wth does that mean..
01:26 talljoy now if only neil degrasse tyson would do some clips like that
01:26 talljoy dcook how many records were you trying to upload/stage?
01:26 dcook 1 :/
01:26 dcook Can we only upload iso marc?
01:26 dcook This was marcxml..
01:26 wizzyrea therea re some great tyson gifs
01:26 talljoy you should be able to xml, don't you just specify the file type?
01:27 dcook Nah, there's no type
01:27 dcook I thought it might be smart enough to tell the difference
01:27 wizzyrea[…]1qbh26io1_500.gif < talljoy
01:27 talljoy i just binge watched cosmos over christmas.
01:27 wizzyrea[…]-4f60098236cb.gif
01:27 talljoy love that show
01:28 rangi dcook: naw its MARC only, not MARCXML
01:28 rangi you cand do xml via the commandline though
01:28 talljoy ah, that's what i'm thinking of
01:29 dcook rangi: That's... interesting
01:29 dcook Thanks for the head's up
01:29 * dcook would love to refactor a lot of the import code...
01:30 dcook I wonder how that factors in with the matcher..
01:31 dcook BatchFindDuplicates uses the isomarc... as import_records stores both xml and iso marc...
01:31 rangi the matching will be done on a MARC::Record object
01:31 rangi we dont try to compare files together
01:31 dcook Well, the MARC::Record is created from iso marc
01:32 dcook That's the problem in the match checks
01:32 dcook It tries to create a MARC::Record from iso but the data is xml
01:32 dcook I suppose because it's coming from Zebra
01:32 * dcook looks more at that bit
01:32 rangi that would be a trivial fix if that's all it is
01:32 dcook No... not Zebra..
01:32 dcook That's why I'm hoping to fix it right now :)
01:33 dcook The keys of the matches hash are xml...
01:33 dcook So yeah it must be because the record from Zebra is XML
01:34 dcook Oh my... there's more lower down..
01:35 dcook Hmm new_record_from_zebra makes a lot of assumptions..
01:35 dcook Yeah, this should be a trivial fix
01:36 dcook But it would be easy to break again in the future if Zebra were returning something different..
01:36 dcook Nature of the game I guess
01:38 dcook And we don't do match checks for authority records... even though you can define them in the matching rules... yikes..
01:38 * dcook ponders
01:43 dcook Oh that's special..
01:47 dcook So Matcher::get_matches() takes a MARC::Record...
01:51 dcook H'okay... let's try this again
01:52 dcook Would love to use Gearman/Minion/Icarus for "Stage MARC records for import"... rather than having Job Status at 0% when it crashes..
02:08 dcook This is so confusing..
02:08 dcook C4::Search::new_record_from_zebra() seems to be returning something bogus..
02:09 dcook Or..
02:09 kidclamp @wizzyrea++
02:09 huginn kidclamp: I've exhausted my database of quotes
02:09 kidclamp wizzyrea++
02:10 dcook Oh wait, it's probably me being silly..
02:11 dcook Yes... definitely me..
02:13 dcook Ugh, there's no easy way to do this efficiently without rewriting heaps of it..
02:19 wizzyrea ugh there's one more polish thing I want to do to 8753 but I'm not fixing any more of it until it's in master.
02:19 dcook ^those feels
02:19 wizzyrea where's my gif for "unreasonable tantrum"
02:20 wizzyrea[…]y-darth-vader.jpg let's just look at hello kitty darth vader again
02:20 wizzyrea that fixes everything.
02:20 ibeardslee[…]1sia4voo1_400.gif
02:20 ibeardslee ?
02:21 wizzyrea lol
02:21 wizzyrea who can be sad looking at the carleton
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02:42 bora hi
02:42 wahanui que tal, bora
02:43 dcook Huzzah. I think I just fixed the match checks
02:43 dcook For bibs...
02:43 wizzyrea neat!
02:43 dcook Fixing them for auth records just requires more work..
02:44 dcook And doesn't work anyway so whatever... that can be a separate bug report
03:07 dcook Oh, looks like Olli has already done a fix..
03:13 wizzyrea oh?
03:13 wizzyrea which bug
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03:27 dcook @later tell talljoy Olli has already written a fix for the match checks :[…]_bug.cgi?id=12586
03:27 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
03:27 huginn Bug 12586: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Record matching rules - Required match checks doesn't work with MARCXML
03:27 dcook wizzyrea^
03:28 dcook I signed off his, but added a follow-up
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03:32 wizzyrea cool
03:34 dcook Now back to my regular scheduled programming..
03:35 dcook Hmm... why's my scheduled programming bad now..
03:35 dcook Huh... now it's fine. Weird.
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03:36 dcook Oh that is cool...
03:37 dcook So the OAI harvester can pull down small respones in about 2-3 seconds
03:37 dcook And I have the importer working every 5 seconds
03:37 dcook I have it importing the same record every 5 seconds for debugging purposes...
03:37 dcook Went in and changed the title... then it was replaced with an  imported version so fast...
03:38 Amit_Gupta hi dcook
03:38 dcook yo
03:39 dcook Oooo match checks are totally what I need too...
03:39 dcook Because if I use the 035a to search Identifier-Standard for 123456...
03:39 dcook Some other field may have put 123456 into Identifier-Standard
03:39 dcook So it doesn't hurt to make sure it actually has a 035a of 123456 in both the source and target...
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04:07 dcook Hmm... using import_bib is a bit slow...
04:08 dcook Or at least the way I'm using it
04:08 dcook Adding 1 record every 2 seconds..
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04:11 dcook I suppose if I were sending those HTTP requests asynchronously that could improve performance...
04:11 dcook But I can't use import_bib asynchronously as I might wind up with newer records being imported before older records...
04:12 dcook Import started at 15:06:34... and the 167th record is imported by 15:12:28...
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04:13 dcook I suppose if you import 3 records every 3 seconds, you'd be able to import those 3 records within 6 seconds... so download and import is 9 seconds for that "batch"
04:14 dcook Could be faster but that's not necessarily that bad..
04:14 dcook Although you can download 100 records in 5 seconds...
04:15 dcook That's about the best download ratio I can get..
04:15 dcook 2
04:15 dcook But that would take 3.3 minutes to import those 100 records... so you'd get a backlog fast if you were downloading a lot of records
04:15 dcook But... it would catch up (in theory), so if you were running it often enough...
04:15 dcook Your first import would suck but subsequent ones might be fine
04:17 dcook But if you had a big dump at 1pm... you would be stuck with your backlog for a while
04:17 dcook So updates made upstream wouldn't trickle down until much later than expected..
04:18 dcook ... that sounded less gross when I was typing it
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05:14 dcook fredericd: I don't suppose you're around atm?
05:17 dcook $AnyEvent::MODEL
05:17 dcook That's what I wanted
05:18 dcook Damn, it is autodetecting POE...
05:19 dcook I guess that's not necessarily a bad thing..
05:22 dcook Hmm... seems ok
05:28 dcook Hmm AnyEvent is quite slick
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06:36 dcook It would be interesting if the matching rules let you have > and < instead of just =
06:37 dcook You might have a match point of 001...
06:37 dcook But you want to make sure that the 005 of the incoming record is >= than the existing record...
06:37 dcook That might not actually be *that* hard of an enhancement..
06:38 dcook Especially as match checks haven't been working lately anyway..
06:38 dcook I suppose the difference between "eq" and "==" would be annoying..
06:40 dcook I suppose Scalar::Util is in core... so you could use looks_like_number()...
06:40 * dcook thinks this holds up
06:50 liw @wunder espoo
06:50 huginn` liw: The current temperature in Viherlaakso, Espoo, Finland is -24.3°C (8:45 AM EET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -26.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
06:50 eythian @wunder Amsterdam, nl
06:50 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 5.8°C (7:45 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady).
06:55 eythian I win 🙂
06:56 dcook @wunder syd
06:56 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (5:30 PM AEDT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
06:56 dcook :)
07:23 dcook I am so confused...
07:23 dcook The path sent to IO::File is "/tmp/koha_upload/79f22cc1d09cb6c6​f441db3b417bd7d5_z-koha-test.mrc"
07:23 dcook But the actual path is "/tmp/systemd-private-628941b8dd1849859e8e745f8e​d038ac-apache2.service-TKz6hp/tmp/koha_upload/79​f22cc1d09cb6c6f441db3b417bd7d5_z-koha-test.mrc"
07:27 dcook Ah, I think I see..
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07:36 dcook Ah, it's down to /usr/lib/systemd/system/apache2.service...
07:36 dcook PrivateTmp
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07:41 dcook Hmm don't see an apache2.service in Debian..
07:42 dcook at least not in /lib/systemd/system..
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07:47 reiveune hello
07:53 * magnuse waves
07:53 * dcook waves and wanders off
07:53 magnuse have fun dcook
07:55 magnuse @wunder boo
07:55 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -13.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
07:56 magnuse @wunder maspalomas
07:56 huginn` magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
07:57 magnuse @wunder las palmas
07:57 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:57 magnuse @wunder las palmas, spain
07:57 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:57 magnuse gah
07:59 Joubu hi
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08:00 alex_a bonjour
08:00 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
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08:33 * cait waves
08:34 cait happy new year to everyone returning to work today :)
08:34 cait @later tell pianohacker maybe i can locate it tonight... probably using other words than we are thinking about :)
08:34 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
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08:35 marcelr hi #koha
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08:38 cait hi marcelr - happy new year :)
08:38 marcelr :)
08:55 eythian Hi marcelr. I'm in your city. We should get a beer or something some time soon.
08:55 cait :)
08:56 cait eythian: what's the next 'a' museum?
09:00 eythian cait: the Amsterdam Tulip Museum
09:00 cait flowers - nice :)
09:00 eythian Oddly, it you click the maps link in their website, it takes you to the cheese museum
09:00 eythian (which is nearby)
09:00 cait lol
09:02 eythian I'm skipping the cheese museum, it's apparently more just a shop with the name "museum" in it, and it's not in the source list.
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09:07 marcelr hi eythian
09:08 eythian Hola
09:08 wahanui kia ora, eythian
09:08 marcelr eythian: or visit rijks?
09:09 eythian "r" is a long way through the alphabet 😉
09:09 eythian Do you hang out there outside normal work hours much?
09:09 marcelr not really
09:11 eythian Because I'm usually at work during the day. But I will have to arrange something. In the meantime I was thinking a generically social thing ☺
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09:17 cait eythian: what's the source list?
09:17 * Francesca waves
09:18 cait hi Francesca :)
09:18 Francesca hey cait :) hows its going
09:19 cait good - happy new year :)
09:19 cait how are you doing? big plans for 2016?
09:21 Francesca eh uni stuff
09:21 Francesca catalyst stuff
09:21 wahanui catalyst stuff is all about koha-plackify as  such.
09:21 Francesca same old same old I guess
09:21 Francesca lol wahanui
09:21 cait wahanui forget catalyst stuff
09:21 wahanui cait: I forgot catalyst stuff
09:21 Francesca wahanui botsnack cookie
09:21 wahanui thanks Francesca :)
09:21 Francesca oh and music stuff
09:22 eythian cait: the Wikipedia page
09:22 cait same old doesn't sound too bad :)
09:23 Francesca no it really isn't :) though hopefully I can actually manage to get a job this year
09:23 Francesca oh I forgot choir stuff
09:23 magnuse @wunder røros
09:23 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -20.0°C (9:50 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
09:23 Francesca though I suppose that falls under music stuff
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09:23 Francesca ohh so cold
09:23 Francesca @wunder wlg
09:23 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:00 PM NZDT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
09:23 magnuse @wunder kautokeino
09:24 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -37.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -40.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
09:24 LibraryClaire morning #koha
09:24 magnuse now that is some temperature...
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09:24 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:24 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
09:25 LibraryClaire @wunder LHR
09:25 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 9.0°C (9:20 AM GMT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 28.97 in 981 hPa (Rising).
09:25 liw @wunder espoo
09:25 huginn` liw: The current temperature in Viherlaakso, Espoo, Finland is -23.5°C (11:22 AM EET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
09:26 magnuse @wunder karasjok
09:26 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -27.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -30.0°C. Windchill: -36.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
09:26 magnuse karasjok had -41.4 last night
09:26 LibraryClaire Norway is cold!
09:26 magnuse yup
09:27 Francesca norway is damn right freezing from what I can see
09:27 magnuse i think we are getting some cold winds from siberia these days
09:27 Francesca is -41.4 normal for this time of year?
09:28 magnuse well, it's extreme, but not unheard of in those places at this time
09:28 liw magnuse, yeah, Finland too -- but we're promised a heat wave from the Arctic ocean with temps as high as -15
09:28 magnuse they get that a couple of times a year, i think
09:28 magnuse liw: yay!
09:28 * Francesca cries for all those poor cold cold people
09:29 LibraryClaire Apparently we might get some 'Scandinavian air' coming over next week. We might get as low as 0... :O
09:29 Francesca I'm glad its summer here
09:29 Francesca and that winters are never that cold
09:29 magnuse Francesca: they are used to it :-)
09:29 magnuse and their houses are built for it
09:29 Francesca luckily
09:30 cait @wunder Bodo
09:30 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -13.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
09:30 cait brr.
09:30 magnuse @wunder boo
09:30 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -13.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
09:31 magnuse the trouble here is the wind. luckily not too much of it today
09:31 Francesca now wind issues I can relate too
09:31 Francesca thats a year round issue in weliington
09:31 magnuse forecast says even colder + wind tomorrow = -26 effective temperature
09:31 Francesca eeeek
09:31 * Francesca shivers just thinking about it
09:31 LibraryClaire brrr
09:31 magnuse yeah, Bodø has a bad reputation for wind, but Wellington is worse
09:32 magnuse rangi and i found some graphs once that showed way more wind in wellington
09:32 Francesca thats impressive
09:32 eythian Heh yeah, people think Amsterdam is windy. Little do they know.
09:32 LibraryClaire it's damp air I can't handle, makes everything feel way colder
09:32 * Francesca waves at eythian
09:33 eythian Hello
09:33 wahanui que tal, eythian
09:33 magnuse LibraryClaire: yup
09:34 LibraryClaire Even though the temp in the UK isn't really that bad by comparison the dampness and wind makes it harder to bear
09:34 Francesca hey eythian hows the other side of the world?
09:34 eythian A little bit wintery, otherwise pretty nice ☺
09:35 Francesca speaking of wind and weather:[…]ain-for-the-south
09:35 Francesca its supposed to be summer here
09:37 eythian Yeah, was that. We just got down to 2° yesterday, that's been the worst of it ☺
09:37 eythian *saw that
09:38 Francesca 2 degrees is very cold by my standards
09:38 magnuse Francesca: sounds like fun
09:38 eythian I'm from the south, it's not too bad
09:39 Francesca yeah fun.. grumpy cats, getting blown around outside
09:39 Francesca still its better than freezing to death
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09:52 drojf1 @wunder berlin, germany
09:52 huginn` drojf1: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is -6.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling).
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10:08 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
10:08 huginn` ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 7.8°C (10:08 AM GMT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 28.94 in 980 hPa (Steady).
10:10 cait morning ashimema :)
10:10 ashimema morning
10:12 * LibraryClaire waves
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12:20 Joubu re-outch
12:20 LibraryClaire yeah...
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13:10 tcohen Joubu: I'm launching the tests alone, just to check. But the server has 2 cores and doesn't seem overloaded
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16:01 reiveune bye
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16:03 Joubu bye #koha
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17:14 pianohacker @later tell dcook trying to use any op the special "elements zebra::" commands from[…]al-retrieval.html fails for me, though I can dump the indices by just doing "format xml". Any thoughts?
17:14 huginn` pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
17:14 pianohacker also hello all :)
17:15 oleonard Hi pianohacker
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17:41 eythian @wunder Amsterdam, nl
17:41 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 7.3°C (6:30 PM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.00 in 982 hPa (Falling).
17:41 eythian Drizzle? I should be so lucky.
17:44 cwitty Does Circulation/Renew work for anyone else in Koha 3.22.01?
17:44 cwitty I always get: Software error:  Can't call method "single" without a package or object reference at /home/admin/git-koha/koha/circ/ line 57.
18:13 pianohacker cwitty: known (bad) bug, one sec...
18:14 pianohacker cwitty:[…]_bug.cgi?id=15462 ; we have a fix, it should be in a bugfix release soonish
18:14 huginn` Bug 15462: critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Unable to renew books via circ/
18:15 oleonard Is there a way to cancel a transfer on an item without checking it in?
18:17 oleonard Oh there is a cancel transfer link on the transfers to receive report. I wonder if that does anything to lost statuses.
18:17 pianohacker oleonard: that just links off to :/
18:18 oleonard Oh you're right. Boo.
18:19 cwitty huginn`: Thanks!
18:19 huginn` cwitty: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:25 pianohacker cwitty: huginn` is a bot, is why he's confused :)
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18:34 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15462 - Unable to renew books via circ/ <[…]603ecd7341826c23c>
18:35 cwitty pianohacker: well, now I feel silly :)
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18:38 * cait waves
18:38 pianohacker cwitty: happens to all of us. wahanui is a bot too, and a rather silly one
18:38 pianohacker hi cait
18:44 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15493: Use the correct CSV profile when exporting records from the export tool <[…]4f1d49eb177732144>
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18:54 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15478 - Update the remaining schema files that do not match the db schema <[…]1f171e740b9c04e72> / Bug 15478 - Checksum mismatch when regenerating schema <[…]d746e3fcc7e529964>
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19:04 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15511: Fix tabbed display on OPAC patron account summary page <[…]bf93236ec8cf67be2> / Bug 15453: Assign the correct shelfid to the download list links <[…]c817293eecd9b4672>
19:16 pianohacker @later tell Joubu I fixed a tiny issue on bug 14658; I think it's still effectively passed QA, but wanted your go-ahead
19:16 huginn` pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
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19:24 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15467: If authtypecode is not defined, do not explode <[…]4d0ffc4f7d4ec94b2>
19:34 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15412: Enable dropdowns date selector when suspending holds <[…]d7294a6ae880d5fc4> / Bug 15466: Do not assume $values_in is a hashref <[…]41bb10484e38f3ada>
19:37 * cait waves
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20:31 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
20:31 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 08, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
20:31 wizzyrea warm, but terrible out.
20:32 nengard @weather 78754
20:32 huginn` nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 21.9°C (2:26 PM CST on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
20:32 wizzyrea that seems high for january eh
20:35 nengard Austin :)
20:35 nengard It's why I'm here :)
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20:37 rangi morning
20:37 * cait puts her QA hat on
20:43 wizzyrea man hiding those obsolete comments is THE BEST THING EVER.
20:43 wizzyrea so nice.
20:43 wizzyrea bugzilla experience improved greatly.
20:43 rangi yup
20:43 wizzyrea was that your doing?
20:44 rangi jonathan i think
20:44 wizzyrea joubu++
20:44 rangi or maybe me
20:44 wahanui maybe rangi is still here
20:44 rangi i dunno
20:44 wizzyrea rangi++
20:44 rangi i think joubu and julian actually
20:44 rangi i lose track of things :)
20:44 wizzyrea irc regulars?
20:44 wahanui i guess irc regulars is at
20:44 wizzyrea jajm++
20:45 cait wizzyrea: the checkbox thing or something automatic i misssed?
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20:46 wizzyrea whatever it was that did this
20:46 cait aah not sure
20:46 wizzyrea it might even have been gmcharlt...
20:47 wizzyrea dunno I'd have to go back through and read the list
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21:30 cait pianohacker++ # patience :)
21:31 talljoy patience is a virtue.....
21:33 cait hi talljoy :)
21:33 talljoy hiya cait!!
21:33 cait happy new year :)
21:34 talljoy thanks!  and happy new year to you too!
21:39 cait :)
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22:06 wizzyrea am i imagining it or is staging marc files for imports crazy slow now?
22:06 wizzyrea i mean importing a staged file
22:06 wizzyrea more testing is required
22:06 wizzyrea clearl.
22:06 wizzyrea clearly*
22:07 wizzyrea importing 500 records used to take 2-5 seconds
22:07 wizzyrea and I've already been waiting 30 and it's only half done!
22:12 cait git bz is sleepy too
22:14 pianohacker wizzyrea: we've noticed a similar bug in; it seems to be caused by the cache-busting code in 11842
22:14 pianohacker bug 11842
22:14 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11842 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, MARC framework editing is broken when memcache is enabled
22:15 cait hm still 3 tests failing on jenkins?
22:15 pianohacker I think there's stuff in Passed QA to fix that
22:16 cait hm not sure, those i knew about were already pushed
22:16 rangi pianohacker: i think an if would fix that
22:17 rangi no point making a cache object if you have caching disabled
22:17 pianohacker rangi: how so? khall and I have been debating possible fixes, as it currently reloads GetMarcStructure every time _get_unlinked_item_subfields is called
22:17 rangi yeah thats what it was always doing
22:17 rangi it was just memoized
22:18 rangi so it was fast
22:18 rangi but wrong
22:18 rangi because it was loading the framework from last week
22:19 pianohacker is there a safe way of re-memoizing it? khall suggested stuffing it in userenv. The speed loss is pretty noticeable for large bulkmarcimports.
22:19 rangi no
22:19 rangi thats the wrong approach
22:19 pianohacker k...
22:19 rangi the right approach is to not refetch the framework
22:19 rangi every time
22:20 rangi its a long running scritp, just a local variable will do, if someone changes the framework while you are running an import .. well, its probably better to stick with the one you started with anyway
22:20 cait makes sense
22:20 wizzyrea (you can batch modify later)
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22:20 rangi the problem with memoize is it's not safe
22:21 rangi you can't flush it
22:21 rangi you can set a timeout
22:21 pianohacker rangi: wouldn't you have to either pass the framework object in all the function calls all the way down to _get_unlinked_item_subfields or stuff it in a global variable (making plack unhappy), then?
22:21 pianohacker yeah, we're not thinking memoizing stritcly
22:22 rangi caching is for scalability .. not speed, thats the trick to remember
22:23 rangi pianohacker: id look into MMAP
22:24 rangi[…]Cache/
22:24 pianohacker rangi: for large bulkmarcimports, getting the framework out of memcached/fastmmap using Storable is still a pain point
22:24 pianohacker Storable is 80% of the runtime in our profiling
22:25 rangi but yes, not regetting it is still the win
22:25 rangi serialising and deserialising is slow
22:25 rangi the db is faster
22:25 pianohacker yup
22:26 rangi still slow is better than wrong
22:26 pianohacker absolutely. My goal is to take out the slow without putting in wrong in its place
22:27 rangi id have to look, passing the structure down might be doable
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22:27 rangi if (! $data{'marc_structure'}) {
22:27 rangi get it
22:27 rangi would mean you woudlnt have to make sure everywhere was doing it
22:28 rangi if that makes sense?
22:28 pianohacker rangi: I get what you're talking about, just have to make sure that there's a place to stuff that on the road from bulkmarcimport -> _get_unlinked_blahblah
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22:29 rangi yep
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22:30 bag felt like an earthquake
22:30 bag knock on wood
22:30 rangi maybe tidy stuff up to take a hashref instead :)
22:31 rangi then stuff like this is way less annoying in the future :)
22:32 pianohacker rangi: yup. AddBiblio, blessedly, already does, but ModBiblioMarc and _get_whatever should too
22:32 rangi yep
22:34 rangi the same fix for stuff like search results etc could be done in the future too
22:34 rangi theres a lot where we just fetch stuff we just fetch
22:34 rangi ed
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