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dcook |
Blah, bloody matching rules... |
00:53 |
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dcook |
@later tell eythian Awesome, although I can't see it changing much :( |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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dcook |
Ahh maybe it's crashing because of that NorwegianPatronDB thing.. |
00:56 |
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dcook |
Mmm I don't think so.. |
01:01 |
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dcook |
wth... |
01:01 |
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dcook |
We're still using ISO Marc in ImportBatch.pm? |
01:05 |
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dcook |
So the query is working but something else is failing.. |
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dcook |
Required match check fail.. |
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talljoy |
@later tell khall can you tell me why CIIS has custom code? and why it would impact the serials module and/or the database structure? If you point me to the db corrections needed, I can take a whack at it. RT 30027 |
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huginn |
talljoy: The operation succeeded. |
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talljoy |
thanks kidclamp for the update on ciis |
01:12 |
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talljoy |
@kidclamp++ |
01:12 |
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huginn |
talljoy: downloading the Perl source |
01:12 |
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rangi |
w/w talljoy ? |
01:12 |
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rangi |
and happy new year |
01:12 |
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wizzyrea |
also hi |
01:12 |
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talljoy |
ha! happy new year. |
01:12 |
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talljoy |
Heya wizzyrea |
01:12 |
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wahanui |
i think wizzyrea is so dumb at rewrite rules. |
01:12 |
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wizzyrea |
it's true. |
01:12 |
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wahanui |
I saw it on Digg! |
01:12 |
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talljoy |
pfft |
01:13 |
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talljoy |
i'm on mac and colloquy is so different from pidgin |
01:13 |
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talljoy |
i get all turned around. like working in another timezone! |
01:13 |
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wizzyrea |
teehee |
01:14 |
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dcook |
Nowonder _passes_required_checks doesn't work... it's XML but it thinks it's ISO MARC |
01:15 |
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* dcook |
imagines no one must be using match checks or else all their imports must be going badly.. |
01:15 |
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talljoy |
i've never found match checks to work. |
01:15 |
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talljoy |
they always just *failed* when i tried to implement. |
01:15 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I think I've found the same, and I've finally be frustrated enough to find out why... hehe |
01:16 |
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talljoy |
bless you! |
01:16 |
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talljoy |
i could use matchchecks if they worked! |
01:16 |
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talljoy |
mighty useful things in migrating data into consortiums |
01:16 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I've been thinking they'd be good |
01:16 |
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talljoy |
especially poorly cataloged libraries |
01:17 |
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dcook |
Looks like it's still broken in master, so I'll look at sending in a bug report now |
01:17 |
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talljoy |
"Why is my star wars DVD on this Hello Kitty record" |
01:17 |
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dcook |
While it's all still fresh |
01:17 |
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dcook |
hehe |
01:17 |
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talljoy |
i dunno....cuz your cataloger is lazy or inept? |
01:17 |
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dcook |
Did you see the Hello Kitty Darth Vader? |
01:17 |
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talljoy |
no, but i should now!! |
01:17 |
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dcook |
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net[…]y-darth-vader.jpg |
01:17 |
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dcook |
Relevant :D |
01:17 |
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wizzyrea |
^ this is why your starwars dvd is on your hello kitty record. |
01:18 |
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talljoy |
*that* is funny |
01:18 |
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talljoy |
just snorted my coffee |
01:18 |
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talljoy |
i think we found the cataloger in question. |
01:18 |
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wizzyrea |
this is what happens when you turn up at odd hours :) |
01:19 |
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talljoy |
i need to do this more often. |
01:19 |
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talljoy |
this spring, i have to be out an about every night carting teens to sports/evening classes. |
01:19 |
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talljoy |
they don't drive yet, so i am in full on chauffeur mode. |
01:19 |
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dcook |
Oceania is pretty good value I think :p |
01:19 |
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talljoy |
and hanging at the starbucks. :-/ |
01:19 |
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dcook |
Driving age is pretty good |
01:20 |
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wizzyrea |
http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]5CoolStoryBro.gif |
01:20 |
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talljoy |
mix bag. they can drive themselves. but then i start to worry |
01:20 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry that isn't apropos anything |
01:20 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: That's fantastic |
01:20 |
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wizzyrea |
I just found it funny |
01:20 |
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dcook |
talljoy: That's true |
01:20 |
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talljoy |
funny tho wizzyrea |
01:20 |
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dcook |
I think about some of the stupid things my friends did driving... |
01:20 |
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talljoy |
indeed. me too! |
01:20 |
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dcook |
I just hope my kids take after me and are awesome drivers :D |
01:20 |
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talljoy |
my brothers 'injured' many cars in their misspent youths |
01:21 |
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wizzyrea |
http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]Nye122415Stop.gif I have a feeling we've all had this reaction >.> |
01:21 |
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dcook |
Ouch |
01:21 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: hehehehe |
01:21 |
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talljoy |
daily in my situations. hahaha |
01:21 |
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dcook |
I need to save these two for all my internet interactions |
01:21 |
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wizzyrea |
http://nerdist.com/bill-nye-re[…]ry=349614#gallery |
01:21 |
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wizzyrea |
there's a whole series |
01:21 |
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wizzyrea |
and they're all pretty good |
01:21 |
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wizzyrea |
http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]2415MindBlown.gif |
01:22 |
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wizzyrea |
http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]EmailResponse.gif |
01:22 |
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talljoy |
wizzyrea you have just become a hero to my 14 year old |
01:22 |
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talljoy |
he is enjoying the show |
01:22 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
01:22 |
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wizzyrea |
http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]ye122415Party.gif lulz |
01:24 |
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talljoy |
he just bookmarked these on his phone. |
01:24 |
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wizzyrea |
A+ |
01:24 |
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talljoy |
i envision a few emails with these embedded. |
01:25 |
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dcook |
"1 records not staged because of MARC error" |
01:25 |
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dcook |
wth does that mean.. |
01:26 |
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talljoy |
now if only neil degrasse tyson would do some clips like that |
01:26 |
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talljoy |
dcook how many records were you trying to upload/stage? |
01:26 |
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dcook |
1 :/ |
01:26 |
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dcook |
Can we only upload iso marc? |
01:26 |
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dcook |
This was marcxml.. |
01:26 |
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wizzyrea |
therea re some great tyson gifs |
01:26 |
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talljoy |
you should be able to xml, don't you just specify the file type? |
01:27 |
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dcook |
Nah, there's no type |
01:27 |
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dcook |
I thought it might be smart enough to tell the difference |
01:27 |
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wizzyrea |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/d56[…]1qbh26io1_500.gif < talljoy |
01:27 |
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talljoy |
i just binge watched cosmos over christmas. |
01:27 |
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wizzyrea |
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/98[…]-4f60098236cb.gif |
01:27 |
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talljoy |
love that show |
01:28 |
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rangi |
dcook: naw its MARC only, not MARCXML |
01:28 |
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rangi |
you cand do xml via the commandline though |
01:28 |
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talljoy |
ah, that's what i'm thinking of |
01:29 |
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dcook |
rangi: That's... interesting |
01:29 |
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dcook |
Thanks for the head's up |
01:29 |
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* dcook |
would love to refactor a lot of the import code... |
01:30 |
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dcook |
I wonder how that factors in with the matcher.. |
01:31 |
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dcook |
BatchFindDuplicates uses the isomarc... as import_records stores both xml and iso marc... |
01:31 |
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rangi |
the matching will be done on a MARC::Record object |
01:31 |
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rangi |
we dont try to compare files together |
01:31 |
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dcook |
Well, the MARC::Record is created from iso marc |
01:32 |
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dcook |
That's the problem in the match checks |
01:32 |
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dcook |
It tries to create a MARC::Record from iso but the data is xml |
01:32 |
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dcook |
I suppose because it's coming from Zebra |
01:32 |
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* dcook |
looks more at that bit |
01:32 |
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rangi |
that would be a trivial fix if that's all it is |
01:32 |
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dcook |
No... not Zebra.. |
01:32 |
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dcook |
That's why I'm hoping to fix it right now :) |
01:33 |
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dcook |
The keys of the matches hash are xml... |
01:33 |
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dcook |
So yeah it must be because the record from Zebra is XML |
01:34 |
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dcook |
Oh my... there's more lower down.. |
01:35 |
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dcook |
Hmm new_record_from_zebra makes a lot of assumptions.. |
01:35 |
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dcook |
Yeah, this should be a trivial fix |
01:36 |
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dcook |
But it would be easy to break again in the future if Zebra were returning something different.. |
01:36 |
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dcook |
Nature of the game I guess |
01:38 |
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dcook |
And we don't do match checks for authority records... even though you can define them in the matching rules... yikes.. |
01:38 |
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* dcook |
ponders |
01:43 |
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dcook |
Oh that's special.. |
01:47 |
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dcook |
So Matcher::get_matches() takes a MARC::Record... |
01:51 |
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dcook |
H'okay... let's try this again |
01:52 |
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dcook |
Would love to use Gearman/Minion/Icarus for "Stage MARC records for import"... rather than having Job Status at 0% when it crashes.. |
02:08 |
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dcook |
This is so confusing.. |
02:08 |
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dcook |
C4::Search::new_record_from_zebra() seems to be returning something bogus.. |
02:09 |
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dcook |
Or.. |
02:09 |
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kidclamp |
@wizzyrea++ |
02:09 |
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huginn |
kidclamp: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
02:09 |
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kidclamp |
wizzyrea++ |
02:10 |
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dcook |
Oh wait, it's probably me being silly.. |
02:11 |
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dcook |
Yes... definitely me.. |
02:13 |
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dcook |
Ugh, there's no easy way to do this efficiently without rewriting heaps of it.. |
02:19 |
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wizzyrea |
ugh there's one more polish thing I want to do to 8753 but I'm not fixing any more of it until it's in master. |
02:19 |
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dcook |
^those feels |
02:19 |
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wizzyrea |
where's my gif for "unreasonable tantrum" |
02:20 |
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wizzyrea |
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net[…]y-darth-vader.jpg let's just look at hello kitty darth vader again |
02:20 |
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wizzyrea |
that fixes everything. |
02:20 |
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ibeardslee |
https://45.media.tumblr.com/82[…]1sia4voo1_400.gif |
02:20 |
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ibeardslee |
? |
02:21 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
02:21 |
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wizzyrea |
who can be sad looking at the carleton |
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bora |
hi |
02:42 |
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wahanui |
que tal, bora |
02:43 |
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dcook |
Huzzah. I think I just fixed the match checks |
02:43 |
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dcook |
For bibs... |
02:43 |
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wizzyrea |
neat! |
02:43 |
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dcook |
Fixing them for auth records just requires more work.. |
02:44 |
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dcook |
And doesn't work anyway so whatever... that can be a separate bug report |
03:07 |
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dcook |
Oh, looks like Olli has already done a fix.. |
03:13 |
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wizzyrea |
oh? |
03:13 |
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wizzyrea |
which bug |
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dcook |
@later tell talljoy Olli has already written a fix for the match checks : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12586 |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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huginn |
Bug 12586: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Record matching rules - Required match checks doesn't work with MARCXML |
03:27 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea^ |
03:28 |
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dcook |
I signed off his, but added a follow-up |
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wizzyrea |
cool |
03:34 |
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dcook |
Now back to my regular scheduled programming.. |
03:35 |
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dcook |
Hmm... why's my scheduled programming bad now.. |
03:35 |
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dcook |
Huh... now it's fine. Weird. |
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dcook |
Oh that is cool... |
03:37 |
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dcook |
So the OAI harvester can pull down small respones in about 2-3 seconds |
03:37 |
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dcook |
And I have the importer working every 5 seconds |
03:37 |
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dcook |
I have it importing the same record every 5 seconds for debugging purposes... |
03:37 |
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dcook |
Went in and changed the title... then it was replaced with an imported version so fast... |
03:38 |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi dcook |
03:38 |
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dcook |
yo |
03:39 |
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dcook |
Oooo match checks are totally what I need too... |
03:39 |
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dcook |
Because if I use the 035a to search Identifier-Standard for 123456... |
03:39 |
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dcook |
Some other field may have put 123456 into Identifier-Standard |
03:39 |
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dcook |
So it doesn't hurt to make sure it actually has a 035a of 123456 in both the source and target... |
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dcook |
Hmm... using import_bib is a bit slow... |
04:08 |
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dcook |
Or at least the way I'm using it |
04:08 |
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dcook |
Adding 1 record every 2 seconds.. |
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dcook |
I suppose if I were sending those HTTP requests asynchronously that could improve performance... |
04:11 |
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dcook |
But I can't use import_bib asynchronously as I might wind up with newer records being imported before older records... |
04:12 |
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dcook |
Import started at 15:06:34... and the 167th record is imported by 15:12:28... |
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dcook |
I suppose if you import 3 records every 3 seconds, you'd be able to import those 3 records within 6 seconds... so download and import is 9 seconds for that "batch" |
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dcook |
Could be faster but that's not necessarily that bad.. |
04:14 |
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dcook |
Although you can download 100 records in 5 seconds... |
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dcook |
That's about the best download ratio I can get.. |
04:15 |
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dcook |
2 |
04:15 |
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dcook |
But that would take 3.3 minutes to import those 100 records... so you'd get a backlog fast if you were downloading a lot of records |
04:15 |
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dcook |
But... it would catch up (in theory), so if you were running it often enough... |
04:15 |
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dcook |
Your first import would suck but subsequent ones might be fine |
04:17 |
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dcook |
But if you had a big dump at 1pm... you would be stuck with your backlog for a while |
04:17 |
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dcook |
So updates made upstream wouldn't trickle down until much later than expected.. |
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dcook |
... that sounded less gross when I was typing it |
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dcook |
fredericd: I don't suppose you're around atm? |
05:17 |
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dcook |
$AnyEvent::MODEL |
05:17 |
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dcook |
That's what I wanted |
05:18 |
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dcook |
Damn, it is autodetecting POE... |
05:19 |
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dcook |
I guess that's not necessarily a bad thing.. |
05:22 |
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dcook |
Hmm... seems ok |
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dcook |
Hmm AnyEvent is quite slick |
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dcook |
It would be interesting if the matching rules let you have > and < instead of just = |
06:37 |
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dcook |
You might have a match point of 001... |
06:37 |
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dcook |
But you want to make sure that the 005 of the incoming record is >= than the existing record... |
06:37 |
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dcook |
That might not actually be *that* hard of an enhancement.. |
06:38 |
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dcook |
Especially as match checks haven't been working lately anyway.. |
06:38 |
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dcook |
I suppose the difference between "eq" and "==" would be annoying.. |
06:40 |
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dcook |
I suppose Scalar::Util is in core... so you could use looks_like_number()... |
06:40 |
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* dcook |
thinks this holds up |
06:50 |
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liw |
@wunder espoo |
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huginn` |
liw: The current temperature in Viherlaakso, Espoo, Finland is -24.3°C (8:45 AM EET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -26.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
06:50 |
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eythian |
@wunder Amsterdam, nl |
06:50 |
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huginn` |
eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 5.8°C (7:45 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). |
06:55 |
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eythian |
I win 🙂 |
06:56 |
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dcook |
@wunder syd |
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huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (5:30 PM AEDT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
06:56 |
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dcook |
:) |
07:23 |
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dcook |
I am so confused... |
07:23 |
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dcook |
The path sent to IO::File is "/tmp/koha_upload/79f22cc1d09cb6c6f441db3b417bd7d5_z-koha-test.mrc" |
07:23 |
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dcook |
But the actual path is "/tmp/systemd-private-628941b8dd1849859e8e745f8ed038ac-apache2.service-TKz6hp/tmp/koha_upload/79f22cc1d09cb6c6f441db3b417bd7d5_z-koha-test.mrc" |
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dcook |
Ah, I think I see.. |
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dcook |
Ah, it's down to /usr/lib/systemd/system/apache2.service... |
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dcook |
PrivateTmp |
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dcook |
Hmm don't see an apache2.service in Debian.. |
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dcook |
at least not in /lib/systemd/system.. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* dcook |
waves and wanders off |
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magnuse |
have fun dcook |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -13.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder maspalomas |
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huginn` |
magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
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magnuse |
@wunder las palmas |
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huginn` |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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magnuse |
@wunder las palmas, spain |
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huginn` |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
07:57 |
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magnuse |
gah |
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Joubu |
hi |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
kia ora, alex_a |
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* cait |
waves |
08:34 |
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cait |
happy new year to everyone returning to work today :) |
08:34 |
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cait |
@later tell pianohacker maybe i can locate it tonight... probably using other words than we are thinking about :) |
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huginn` |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi marcelr - happy new year :) |
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marcelr |
:) |
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eythian |
Hi marcelr. I'm in your city. We should get a beer or something some time soon. |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
eythian: what's the next 'a' museum? |
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eythian |
cait: the Amsterdam Tulip Museum |
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cait |
flowers - nice :) |
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eythian |
Oddly, it you click the maps link in their website, it takes you to the cheese museum |
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eythian |
(which is nearby) |
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cait |
lol |
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eythian |
I'm skipping the cheese museum, it's apparently more just a shop with the name "museum" in it, and it's not in the source list. |
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marcelr |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
Hola |
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wahanui |
kia ora, eythian |
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marcelr |
eythian: or visit rijks? |
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eythian |
"r" is a long way through the alphabet 😉 |
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eythian |
Do you hang out there outside normal work hours much? |
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not really |
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eythian |
Because I'm usually at work during the day. But I will have to arrange something. In the meantime I was thinking a generically social thing ☺ |
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cait |
eythian: what's the source list? |
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waves |
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cait |
hi Francesca :) |
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Francesca |
hey cait :) hows its going |
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cait |
good - happy new year :) |
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cait |
how are you doing? big plans for 2016? |
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Francesca |
eh uni stuff |
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Francesca |
catalyst stuff |
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wahanui |
catalyst stuff is all about koha-plackify as such. |
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Francesca |
same old same old I guess |
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Francesca |
lol wahanui |
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cait |
wahanui forget catalyst stuff |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot catalyst stuff |
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Francesca |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
thanks Francesca :) |
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Francesca |
oh and music stuff |
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cait: the Wikipedia page |
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cait |
same old doesn't sound too bad :) |
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Francesca |
no it really isn't :) though hopefully I can actually manage to get a job this year |
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oh I forgot choir stuff |
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@wunder røros |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -20.0°C (9:50 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
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though I suppose that falls under music stuff |
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Francesca |
ohh so cold |
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@wunder wlg |
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Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:00 PM NZDT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
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@wunder kautokeino |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -37.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -40.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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LibraryClaire |
morning #koha |
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magnuse |
now that is some temperature... |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder LHR |
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LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 9.0°C (9:20 AM GMT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 28.97 in 981 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder espoo |
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liw: The current temperature in Viherlaakso, Espoo, Finland is -23.5°C (11:22 AM EET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder karasjok |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -27.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -30.0°C. Windchill: -36.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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karasjok had -41.4 last night |
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LibraryClaire |
Norway is cold! |
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magnuse |
yup |
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Francesca |
norway is damn right freezing from what I can see |
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magnuse |
i think we are getting some cold winds from siberia these days |
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Francesca |
is -41.4 normal for this time of year? |
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magnuse |
well, it's extreme, but not unheard of in those places at this time |
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magnuse, yeah, Finland too -- but we're promised a heat wave from the Arctic ocean with temps as high as -15 |
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magnuse |
they get that a couple of times a year, i think |
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liw: yay! |
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cries for all those poor cold cold people |
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LibraryClaire |
Apparently we might get some 'Scandinavian air' coming over next week. We might get as low as 0... :O |
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Francesca |
I'm glad its summer here |
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Francesca |
and that winters are never that cold |
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Francesca: they are used to it :-) |
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magnuse |
and their houses are built for it |
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Francesca |
luckily |
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@wunder Bodo |
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cait: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -13.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
brr. |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -13.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
the trouble here is the wind. luckily not too much of it today |
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Francesca |
now wind issues I can relate too |
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Francesca |
thats a year round issue in weliington |
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magnuse |
forecast says even colder + wind tomorrow = -26 effective temperature |
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Francesca |
eeeek |
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* Francesca |
shivers just thinking about it |
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LibraryClaire |
brrr |
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magnuse |
yeah, Bodø has a bad reputation for wind, but Wellington is worse |
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magnuse |
rangi and i found some graphs once that showed way more wind in wellington |
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Francesca |
thats impressive |
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eythian |
Heh yeah, people think Amsterdam is windy. Little do they know. |
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LibraryClaire |
it's damp air I can't handle, makes everything feel way colder |
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* Francesca |
waves at eythian |
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eythian |
Hello |
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wahanui |
que tal, eythian |
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magnuse |
LibraryClaire: yup |
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LibraryClaire |
Even though the temp in the UK isn't really that bad by comparison the dampness and wind makes it harder to bear |
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Francesca |
hey eythian hows the other side of the world? |
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eythian |
A little bit wintery, otherwise pretty nice ☺ |
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Francesca |
speaking of wind and weather: http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]ain-for-the-south |
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Francesca |
its supposed to be summer here |
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eythian |
Yeah, was that. We just got down to 2° yesterday, that's been the worst of it ☺ |
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eythian |
*saw that |
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Francesca |
2 degrees is very cold by my standards |
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magnuse |
Francesca: sounds like fun |
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eythian |
I'm from the south, it's not too bad |
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Francesca |
yeah fun.. grumpy cats, getting blown around outside |
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Francesca |
still its better than freezing to death |
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@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf1: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is -6.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
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@wunder stevenage, uk |
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ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 7.8°C (10:08 AM GMT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 28.94 in 980 hPa (Steady). |
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morning ashimema :) |
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morning |
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re-outch |
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yeah... |
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bye #koha |
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@later tell dcook trying to use any op the special "elements zebra::" commands from http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]al-retrieval.html fails for me, though I can dump the indices by just doing "format xml". Any thoughts? |
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pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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pianohacker |
also hello all :) |
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Hi pianohacker |
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@wunder Amsterdam, nl |
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eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 7.3°C (6:30 PM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.00 in 982 hPa (Falling). |
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Drizzle? I should be so lucky. |
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cwitty |
Does Circulation/Renew work for anyone else in Koha 3.22.01? |
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cwitty |
I always get: Software error: Can't call method "single" without a package or object reference at /home/admin/git-koha/koha/circ/renew.pl line 57. |
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pianohacker |
cwitty: known (bad) bug, one sec... |
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cwitty: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15462 ; we have a fix, it should be in a bugfix release soonish |
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huginn` |
Bug 15462: critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Unable to renew books via circ/renew.pl |
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Is there a way to cancel a transfer on an item without checking it in? |
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oleonard |
Oh there is a cancel transfer link on the transfers to receive report. I wonder if that does anything to lost statuses. |
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oleonard: that just links off to returns.pl :/ |
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oleonard |
Oh you're right. Boo. |
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huginn`: Thanks! |
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huginn` |
cwitty: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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cwitty: huginn` is a bot, is why he's confused :) |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15462 - Unable to renew books via circ/renew.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]603ecd7341826c23c> |
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pianohacker: well, now I feel silly :) |
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cwitty: happens to all of us. wahanui is a bot too, and a rather silly one |
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hi cait |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15493: Use the correct CSV profile when exporting records from the export tool <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f1d49eb177732144> |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15478 - Update the remaining schema files that do not match the db schema <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f171e740b9c04e72> / Bug 15478 - Checksum mismatch when regenerating schema <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d746e3fcc7e529964> |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15511: Fix tabbed display on OPAC patron account summary page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bf93236ec8cf67be2> / Bug 15453: Assign the correct shelfid to the download list links <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c817293eecd9b4672> |
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@later tell Joubu I fixed a tiny issue on bug 14658; I think it's still effectively passed QA, but wanted your go-ahead |
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pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15467: If authtypecode is not defined, do not explode <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d0ffc4f7d4ec94b2> |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15412: Enable dropdowns date selector when suspending holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d7294a6ae880d5fc4> / Bug 15466: Do not assume $values_in is a hashref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]41bb10484e38f3ada> |
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waves |
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@wunder nzwn |
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wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 08, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
warm, but terrible out. |
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@weather 78754 |
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nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 21.9°C (2:26 PM CST on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
that seems high for january eh |
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nengard |
Austin :) |
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nengard |
It's why I'm here :) |
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rangi |
morning |
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* cait |
puts her QA hat on |
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wizzyrea |
man hiding those obsolete comments is THE BEST THING EVER. |
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wizzyrea |
so nice. |
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wizzyrea |
bugzilla experience improved greatly. |
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rangi |
yup |
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wizzyrea |
was that your doing? |
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rangi |
jonathan i think |
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wizzyrea |
joubu++ |
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rangi |
or maybe me |
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wahanui |
maybe rangi is still here |
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rangi |
i dunno |
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wizzyrea |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
i think joubu and julian actually |
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rangi |
i lose track of things :) |
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wizzyrea |
irc regulars? |
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wahanui |
i guess irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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wizzyrea |
jajm++ |
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cait |
wizzyrea: the checkbox thing or something automatic i misssed? |
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wizzyrea |
http://i.imgur.com/6dYUBTa.png |
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wizzyrea |
whatever it was that did this |
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cait |
aah not sure |
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wizzyrea |
it might even have been gmcharlt... |
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wizzyrea |
dunno I'd have to go back through and read the list |
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cait |
pianohacker++ # patience :) |
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patience is a virtue..... |
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cait |
hi talljoy :) |
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talljoy |
hiya cait!! |
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cait |
happy new year :) |
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talljoy |
thanks! and happy new year to you too! |
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cait |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
am i imagining it or is staging marc files for imports crazy slow now? |
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wizzyrea |
i mean importing a staged file |
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wizzyrea |
more testing is required |
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wizzyrea |
clearl. |
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wizzyrea |
clearly* |
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wizzyrea |
importing 500 records used to take 2-5 seconds |
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wizzyrea |
and I've already been waiting 30 and it's only half done! |
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cait |
git bz is sleepy too |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: we've noticed a similar bug in bulkmarcimport.pl; it seems to be caused by the cache-busting code in 11842 |
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pianohacker |
bug 11842 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11842 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, MARC framework editing is broken when memcache is enabled |
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cait |
hm still 3 tests failing on jenkins? |
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pianohacker |
I think there's stuff in Passed QA to fix that |
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cait |
hm not sure, those i knew about were already pushed |
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rangi |
pianohacker: i think an if would fix that |
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rangi |
no point making a cache object if you have caching disabled |
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pianohacker |
rangi: how so? khall and I have been debating possible fixes, as it currently reloads GetMarcStructure every time _get_unlinked_item_subfields is called |
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rangi |
yeah thats what it was always doing |
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rangi |
it was just memoized |
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so it was fast |
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rangi |
but wrong |
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because it was loading the framework from last week |
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pianohacker |
is there a safe way of re-memoizing it? khall suggested stuffing it in userenv. The speed loss is pretty noticeable for large bulkmarcimports. |
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no |
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rangi |
thats the wrong approach |
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pianohacker |
k... |
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rangi |
the right approach is to not refetch the framework |
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rangi |
every time |
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rangi |
its a long running scritp, just a local variable will do, if someone changes the framework while you are running an import .. well, its probably better to stick with the one you started with anyway |
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cait |
makes sense |
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wizzyrea |
(you can batch modify later) |
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rangi |
the problem with memoize is it's not safe |
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rangi |
you can't flush it |
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rangi |
you can set a timeout |
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rangi: wouldn't you have to either pass the framework object in all the function calls all the way down to _get_unlinked_item_subfields or stuff it in a global variable (making plack unhappy), then? |
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pianohacker |
yeah, we're not thinking memoizing stritcly |
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rangi |
caching is for scalability .. not speed, thats the trick to remember |
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pianohacker: id look into MMAP |
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http://search.cpan.org/~robm/C[…]Cache/FastMmap.pm |
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pianohacker |
rangi: for large bulkmarcimports, getting the framework out of memcached/fastmmap using Storable is still a pain point |
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Storable is 80% of the runtime in our profiling |
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rangi |
but yes, not regetting it is still the win |
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rangi |
serialising and deserialising is slow |
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rangi |
the db is faster |
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pianohacker |
yup |
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rangi |
still slow is better than wrong |
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pianohacker |
absolutely. My goal is to take out the slow without putting in wrong in its place |
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rangi |
id have to look, passing the structure down might be doable |
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if (! $data{'marc_structure'}) { |
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rangi |
get it |
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would mean you woudlnt have to make sure everywhere was doing it |
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if that makes sense? |
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rangi: I get what you're talking about, just have to make sure that there's a place to stuff that on the road from bulkmarcimport -> _get_unlinked_blahblah |
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yep |
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bag |
felt like an earthquake |
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bag |
knock on wood |
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rangi |
maybe tidy stuff up to take a hashref instead :) |
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rangi |
then stuff like this is way less annoying in the future :) |
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rangi: yup. AddBiblio, blessedly, already does, but ModBiblioMarc and _get_whatever should too |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
the same fix for stuff like search results etc could be done in the future too |
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rangi |
theres a lot where we just fetch stuff we just fetch |
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rangi |
ed |
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