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| 00:00 |
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dcook |
Let's point to All The Vocabularies!!! Each with their own implicit and explicit biases! |
| 00:00 |
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dcook |
Well hopefully explicit biases... |
| 00:02 |
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dcook |
I wonder how that would work with all the vocabularies... |
| 00:02 |
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dcook |
I would think you'd still need a thesaurus... |
| 00:03 |
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* dcook |
is going to cut off his ranting now for the sake of the rest |
| 00:04 |
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* Francesca |
waves |
| 00:04 |
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dcook |
yo Francesca |
| 00:04 |
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Francesca |
sup |
| 00:04 |
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dcook |
Werk |
| 00:04 |
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dcook |
You? |
| 00:04 |
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wahanui |
You are welcome |
| 00:04 |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: looks like the robots.txt tweak for git.k-c worked |
| 00:05 |
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Francesca |
dcook: I'm good, trying to survive last week of uni them I'm freeeee! |
| 00:05 |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt++ awesome thank you for taking care of that |
| 00:06 |
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dcook |
Francesca: Awesome :) |
| 00:07 |
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Francesca |
I am very much looking forward to my holiday |
| 00:07 |
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Francesca |
no uni means no early mornings yay |
| 00:08 |
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dcook |
Interesting... are authorities not a thing in BibFrame? |
| 00:08 |
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* dcook |
finds <bf:hasAuthority rdf:resource="http://id.loc.gov/authorities/[…]ects/sh2008108600"/> a bit confusing |
| 00:08 |
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dcook |
Francesca: A holiday would be nice |
| 00:08 |
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wizzyrea |
github is first that probably explains some things. |
| 00:25 |
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wizzyrea |
I need a frikkin holiday. |
| 01:23 |
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| 03:19 |
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| 03:25 |
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mtj |
meh, i just bumped into bug 5369 on master |
| 03:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5369 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, se queries with paranthesis fail |
| 03:40 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Don't suppose you're around? |
| 03:40 |
|
dcook |
Whoa... |
| 03:40 |
|
dcook |
Is that bug exactly what I was just thinking about? |
| 03:41 |
|
eythian |
sure am |
| 03:41 |
|
dcook |
eythian: I was just going to ask how your ES work copes with parentheses |
| 03:41 |
|
dcook |
Whether it creates groups or what.. |
| 03:41 |
|
eythian |
it does |
| 03:41 |
|
eythian |
it uses the lucene parser |
| 03:41 |
|
eythian |
http://lucene.apache.org/core/[…]parsersyntax.html |
| 03:41 |
|
dcook |
What would it do in the case of that bug mtj just mentioned? |
| 03:41 |
|
dcook |
Where the query string contains parentheses? |
| 03:42 |
|
eythian |
probably explode |
| 03:42 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 03:42 |
|
eythian |
it's a fair bit more sensitive to malformed queries than zebra, the way I'm using it. |
| 03:42 |
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dcook |
That's so weird that I would be thinking about this at this time.. |
| 03:42 |
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dcook |
Ahh |
| 03:42 |
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dcook |
Dinger |
| 03:42 |
|
dcook |
Yeah someone is trying to do the following: |
| 03:42 |
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eythian |
there's a more robust version, but then I lose a lot of necessary features. |
| 03:42 |
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dcook |
Host-item:Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal |
| 03:43 |
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dcook |
And of course it's not working |
| 03:43 |
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dcook |
Host-item:(Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal) |
| 03:43 |
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dcook |
would work though |
| 03:43 |
|
eythian |
ah |
| 03:43 |
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eythian |
I think quotes would solve it in ES |
| 03:43 |
|
eythian |
not 100% sure though |
| 03:43 |
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dcook |
I take it you don't use quotes atm? |
| 03:43 |
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| 03:43 |
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dcook |
I wonder what Koha is doing in the background here anyway.. |
| 03:44 |
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eythian |
I have a lot of query rewriting going on, I can't remember if I do things with quotes or not. |
| 03:44 |
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eythian |
this is what we need a query parser for, then these decisions can be made by koha itself :) |
| 03:44 |
|
dcook |
True dat |
| 03:45 |
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* dcook |
is in favour of a query parser |
| 03:45 |
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mtj |
my bug seems to be caused to having opacsuppression syspref = 1 |
| 03:45 |
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dcook |
mtj: Yeah, I'm noticing that too |
| 03:45 |
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mtj |
..it seems to generate bad CCL, in opac search :/ |
| 03:45 |
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mtj |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3657;hb=HEAD#l532 |
| 03:45 |
|
dcook |
Actually... mine is without parentheses |
| 03:46 |
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dcook |
Host-item:Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal is saying something about opac suppression.. |
| 03:46 |
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mtj |
} else { |
| 03:46 |
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mtj |
$query = "($query) not Suppress=1"; |
| 03:46 |
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mtj |
} |
| 03:46 |
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rangi |
you have at least one item suppressed eh? |
| 03:46 |
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dcook |
rangi: Yeah, but if I do a different query, it works |
| 03:46 |
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mtj |
yeah, i do |
| 03:46 |
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eythian |
opac suppression is currently done in the worst way possible :/ |
| 03:46 |
|
dcook |
So I'm guessing mine has something suppressed |
| 03:46 |
|
eythian |
I need to change that significantly to make it work with ES |
| 03:46 |
|
dcook |
WARNING: query problem with ( ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Search word expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' |
| 03:46 |
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mtj |
i get this error.. |
| 03:46 |
|
mtj |
AH01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:33:30 2015] opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with ('pb=Bloomsbury,') not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Unknown qualifier") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/Search.pm line 384. |
| 03:47 |
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dcook |
mtj: Unknown qualifier, eh? |
| 03:47 |
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eythian |
dcook: oh, if a search part is marked as a "phrase" I do manually wrap quotes around it, I think that's all I do with them. |
| 03:48 |
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dcook |
eythian: Ahh |
| 03:48 |
|
dcook |
mtj: That's really weird |
| 03:49 |
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mtj |
ooh, actually the pb: search is ok |
| 03:50 |
|
mtj |
..i was mucking about with the opac-search.pl file then |
| 03:50 |
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* eythian |
closes 2**8 tabs. This make things less annoying. |
| 03:51 |
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mtj |
its the 'series:phr' search i was getting my error on |
| 03:51 |
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mtj |
H01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:48:50 2015] opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "')' expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/Search.pm line 384. |
| 03:51 |
|
dcook |
Yikes.. |
| 03:52 |
|
dcook |
That looks like a missing double quote? |
| 03:52 |
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mtj |
yeah.. somewhere...? |
| 03:52 |
|
eythian |
I guess the problem generally is it's easy to have a simple parser that can accept anything but isn't flexible, or a complex one that can be made to do anything, but isn't very relaxed about what it accepts. |
| 03:52 |
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mtj |
hey rangi, welcome home too ;0) |
| 03:52 |
|
rangi |
thanks |
| 03:53 |
|
eythian |
Finding one with both syntax and relaxed-ness is a hard problem. |
| 03:54 |
|
dcook |
mtj: What's your query? |
| 03:54 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Possibly |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
I mean... Zebra can be relaxed sometimes but that's because it forces defaults |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
So it works but it works differently than you think it does |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
thank how* |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
than how** |
| 03:55 |
|
mtj |
looks like its the trailing ';' in the search string thats causeing a problem too |
| 03:55 |
|
mtj |
440 #0 - SERIES STATEMENT/ADDED ENTRY--TITLE |
| 03:55 |
|
mtj |
Title Harry Potter ; |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
mtj: What on Earth are you searching, man? :p |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
I have an extra ":" which is causing my entire query to disappear |
| 03:56 |
|
dcook |
Hence why I got ( ) not Suppress=1 |
| 03:56 |
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eythian |
dcook: sure, but if it sees "se:(one two", is that broken syntax, or a literal string? |
| 03:56 |
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mtj |
opac-search.pl?q=se,phr:"Harry Potter ;" |
| 03:56 |
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eythian |
it's easier to treat it as broken syntax |
| 03:56 |
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dcook |
eythian: Ahhh I gotcha. Yeah. |
| 03:56 |
|
mtj |
if i remove the ';'... search works too :/ |
| 03:57 |
|
mtj |
opac-search.pl?q=se,phr:"Harry Potter " |
| 03:57 |
|
dcook |
wth... |
| 03:57 |
|
dcook |
My log says I got a Zebra error, but I'm seeing search results |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
Ah stale logs me thinks.. |
| 03:57 |
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wizzyrea |
mtj are you possibly not using xslt? |
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| 03:57 |
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mtj |
xslt is on |
| 03:58 |
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wizzyrea |
then it probably got regressed in bootstrap or something |
| 03:58 |
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dcook |
mtj: You might need to poke through Search.pm. I think that's where I might be headed next.. |
| 03:58 |
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wizzyrea |
iirc the fix wasn't super complicated. |
| 03:59 |
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mtj |
looks like is been busted forever, i reckon wiz |
| 03:59 |
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mtj |
i'll check again |
| 04:00 |
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mtj |
seems hard to believe it wouldnt have been spotted before tho |
| 04:01 |
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eythian |
wahanui: search.pm |
| 04:01 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that search.pm is full of bees. |
| 04:02 |
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mtj |
anyhoo, thanks for the advice folks |
| 04:02 |
|
dcook |
Search.pm is... arg |
| 04:03 |
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eythian |
full of bees, dcook |
| 04:03 |
|
eythian |
I say this as I just typed 'vim C4/Search.pm' to try to fix something |
| 04:03 |
|
eythian |
:< |
| 04:03 |
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wizzyrea |
mtj intranet or opac? |
| 04:04 |
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mtj |
opac wiz, (i dont think opacsuppress is enabled in intra?) |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
^ |
| 04:05 |
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wizzyrea |
cool, well hope you figure it out |
| 04:06 |
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dcook |
Zebra definitely does something funny with "=" and ":" in a query... |
| 04:06 |
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dcook |
I'm not getting errors per se but getting zero results (in yaz-client) |
| 04:06 |
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* dcook |
looks up mtj's query |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Not a good example for me as I have no Harry Potter... |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
wtf... |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Yeah, Zebra does interesting things with ";" |
| 04:07 |
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pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Punctuation in Zebra" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/107 |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Ahh it just truncated my query |
| 04:08 |
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* dcook |
ponders |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
Actually, this could be a normalization thing |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
mtj: ICU or CHR? |
| 04:08 |
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mtj |
chr, afaik |
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| 04:09 |
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dcook |
Hmm probably not related after all.. |
| 04:11 |
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dcook |
Yikes... yeah ";" is definitely bad news |
| 04:22 |
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dcook |
mtj: Just got that same error and I'm quite confident it's because of that semicolon |
| 04:23 |
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dcook |
The weird thing is that if I plug in "test ; test"... it works |
| 04:23 |
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dcook |
I wind up with this query: |
| 04:23 |
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dcook |
(rk=(Title-cover,ext,r1="test ; test" or ti,ext,r2="test ; test" or Title-cover,phr,r3="test ; test" or wrdl,right-Truncation,r9="test? ; test? " or wrdl,r9="test ; test")) |
| 04:23 |
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dcook |
Which fails in yaz-client but works in Koha... |
| 04:28 |
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| 04:29 |
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dcook |
ZOOM::Query::CCL2RPN might do something.. |
| 04:31 |
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dcook |
Booyah... |
| 04:31 |
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dcook |
Fix yaz-client: semicolon terminates arguments YAZ-851. |
| 04:31 |
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dcook |
Of course it's not fixed until 5.14.5 2015/08/06 |
| 04:31 |
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dcook |
mtj: ^ |
| 04:35 |
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dcook |
Ahhh |
| 04:35 |
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dcook |
I'm guessing ZOOM::QUERY::CCL2RPN is converting the semicolon to a colon... |
| 04:35 |
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dcook |
Because Zebra is being hit with this: @or @or @or @or @attr 1=36 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=32 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 1=4 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=28 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 1=36 @attr 4=1 @attr 9=26 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 "test? : test? " @attr 4=6 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 "test : test" |
| 04:35 |
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dcook |
Which is why it's working... |
| 04:39 |
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dcook |
Interesting... lots of punctuation creates problems |
| 04:39 |
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dcook |
Without errors |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
Oh... but you can see it in the zebra logs.. |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
test * test |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
becomes: @and @and test @attr 5=2 "" test |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
That's cool... * and ? really are both truncation characters after all.. |
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dcook |
eythian: Are you still around? |
| 05:01 |
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dcook |
Or anyone that uses packages... |
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| 05:12 |
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dcook |
I've investigated this before... |
| 05:12 |
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dcook |
That's slightly depressing |
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| 05:27 |
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dcook |
Well that's confusing. The semicolon thing appears to only be in yaz-client.. |
| 05:27 |
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dcook |
Koha seems to handle it fine? |
| 05:29 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 05:29 |
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dcook |
yo magnuse |
| 05:29 |
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magnuse |
yo yo! |
| 05:30 |
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* magnuse |
uses packages |
| 05:31 |
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dcook |
Cool! |
| 05:31 |
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dcook |
Does zebrasrv log anywhere? |
| 05:38 |
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cdickinson |
dcook: /var/log/koha/{site_name}/zebra[-{error|output}].log? |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
cdickinson: Sweet. Thanks :) |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
I was too lazy to boot up a VM to check |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
We use a non-standard Koha setup, so I never know what all y'all are doing |
| 05:39 |
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cdickinson |
the machine I'm using now has some Koha test sites on it |
| 05:39 |
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cdickinson |
debugging Zebra is so annoying |
| 05:39 |
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dcook |
You get used to it |
| 05:39 |
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dcook |
Sort of ;) |
| 05:40 |
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cdickinson |
gives cryptic error messages |
| 05:40 |
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cdickinson |
but they're unique at least so in that way they're helpful because you know what causes them |
| 05:40 |
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mtj |
thanks for the zeb info dcook |
| 05:40 |
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dcook |
mtj: I figured out your problems |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
('pb=Bloomsbury,') not Suppress=1 |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
It's the single quotes |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
It thinks you're saying 'pb is a qualifier |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
(se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
You're missing a second double quote |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
Double quotes denote a term |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
Single quotes are literals |
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| 05:42 |
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dcook |
cdickinson: Yeah some errors are easier to understand than others |
| 05:42 |
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dcook |
For instance: |
| 05:42 |
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dcook |
H01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:48:50 2015] opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "')' expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/Search.pm line 384. |
| 05:42 |
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dcook |
That's a bit misleading |
| 05:42 |
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dcook |
It's actually a " which is expected... |
| 05:42 |
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dcook |
I guess it says ')' because it's treating ) as part of the term |
| 05:43 |
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dcook |
More fun? |
| 05:43 |
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dcook |
"This is a term" is good |
| 05:43 |
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dcook |
"This "is" a term" is good... it'll ignore the double quotes around is |
| 05:43 |
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dcook |
""This is a term"" is bad |
| 05:43 |
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dcook |
As "" and "" are ignored |
| 05:44 |
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dcook |
More fun... |
| 05:45 |
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cdickinson |
lol |
| 05:45 |
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dcook |
Host-item:"Criminology and criminal justice an international journal" |
| 05:45 |
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dcook |
I need those double quotes to specify that's one big term |
| 05:45 |
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dcook |
So that the "and" doesn't get interpreted as an operator |
| 05:45 |
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dcook |
Well not one big term... |
| 05:45 |
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dcook |
But as a unit I guess.. |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
Actually, I'm going to overload my brain in a moment :p |
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magnuse |
cdickinson++ for providing the right answer while i was elsewhere |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune |
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reiveune |
salut magnuse rangi dcook |
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magnuse |
Viktor: is there a list somewhere of all the libraries in sweden that use koha? |
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Joubu |
hello |
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dojobo |
'morning (or whatever) everyone |
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Viktor |
magnuse Not really. Think it's been discussed briefly somewhere. But since there's (not yet) any user group it's sort of what I come across while being "the guy who works with Koha" |
| 07:00 |
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magnuse |
Viktor: is there a list of what you have come across, then? :-) |
| 07:01 |
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Viktor |
magnuse Not yet. But I'll try and give it a quick compile. |
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magnuse |
yay |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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atheia |
morning cait! |
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cait |
morning atheia :) |
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cait |
morning mveron |
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mveron |
cait: You are fast! Good morning :-) |
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mveron |
...and good morning / daytime to everybody |
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magnuse |
hiya cait atheia mveron paul_p |
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mveron |
Hi magnuse and paul_p |
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dojobo |
morning cait |
| 07:42 |
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* mveron |
did a search for 'Remove C4::Dates': 31 Bugs, 15 need Sign-off, 6 Signed-off, 1 Fail, 9 Pushed. 4 files left on Bug 14870. And Bug 12072 is ready for testing, but needs all C4::Dates removals. |
| 07:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System |
| 07:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy |
| 07:42 |
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cait |
morning dojobo |
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cait |
wow |
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ashimema |
morning cait |
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cait |
morning ashimema :) |
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magnuse |
hiya ashimema |
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cait |
Joubu: will try to continue tonight - i already started checking some of hte pages it changes too |
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ashimema |
wow.. |
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ashimema |
huggin just gave me some laters dating back weeks.. |
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ashimema |
sure I've taling in main chat more recnelty that that |
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ashimema |
@later tell pianohacker is that not related to http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14034 |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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huginn |
Bug 14034: normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , User logged out on refresh after Shibboleth authentication |
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cait |
ashimema: love the interaction on the rest api patches - keep the ball rolling :) |
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* ashimema |
needs to look at them again soon |
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cait |
and reminder - dev meeting tomorrow! |
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ashimema |
:) |
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ashimema |
over google hangouts too if I get my way :) |
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cait |
hm might be good to annoucne then, if that's the plan |
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cait |
or do you want to do it in parallel? |
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cait |
i have no access here to google hangouts at work |
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ashimema |
:( |
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cait |
and no camera |
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ashimema |
always throwing spanners cait. |
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ashimema |
it's the audio I was really after.. not the video |
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ashimema |
it's generally more fruitful to talk then to type I find :0 |
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cait |
it's just quite unusual here for us - skype or google hangout - i have had problems with that a few times |
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ashimema |
:( |
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cait |
which time is the meeting anyway? *checks* |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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andreashm |
cait: around? |
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cait |
here |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
now i missed him |
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ashimema |
he's over there |
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cait |
hm? |
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cait |
where is over there? :) |
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ashimema |
now you missed him? |
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ashimema |
lol |
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cait |
you are confusing me :) |
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ashimema |
that's what I do best.. |
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declares "confuse cait" day |
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cait |
hmpf |
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druthb |
magnuse! |
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wahanui |
magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
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druthb |
be nice to cait, Or Else. |
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jcamins |
francharb: hey, do I recall that you moved to Montreal? |
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cait |
this cati wonders how she can create debarment entries... when the patron import doesn't :( |
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cait |
like... what if i want to add a debarment for a group of borrowers... hm. |
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francharb |
Hi jcamins! Yes I did! 2 years ago. |
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francharb |
:) |
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francharb |
And I was in NY this week end |
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francharb |
Do you still live there? jcamins |
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jcamins |
Yes I do. |
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jcamins |
You should've let us know... you could've come to the milonga we went to on Saturday! |
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jcamins |
It was excellent. |
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jcamins |
We're thinking of a vacation in Montreal at the end of November. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: noooo, come to norway! |
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tcohen |
morning |
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nengard |
morning tcohen |
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jcamins |
magnuse: flights to Montreal are a whole lot cheaper. |
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nengard |
norway is better though :) hehe |
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magnuse |
jcamins: and shorter, i bet ;-) |
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jcamins |
magnuse: that too. |
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magnuse |
...and therefore less damaging to the environment... |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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* Kchris |
waves |
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cait |
hi andreashm :) |
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Kchris |
hi cait :) |
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cait |
hi Kchris |
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Kchris |
I just tested a bug on the sandboxes (#2). I got an email that the sandbox was not ready, but it appears to me that the patch WAS applied. Does this make any sense? |
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* andreashm |
is back again. keep getting logged out today it seems. |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
*pokes andreashm to see if he is really here now* |
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andreashm |
I'm here! |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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andreashm |
hi cait, tcohen |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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andreashm |
hey mtompset |
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wahanui |
somebody said mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
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mtompset |
Dev meeting in 3 minutes, right? |
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andreashm |
oh, dev meeting now? nice timing from me - I had forgotten. |
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mtompset |
I think so. |
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mtompset |
wahanui: forget mtompset |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot mtompset |
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mtompset |
mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects. |
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mtompset |
mtompset? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects |
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cait |
i think it's 14th |
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cait |
tomorrow |
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wahanui |
tomorrow is a mystical land where 99% of all human productivity, motivation and achievement is stored. |
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andreashm |
ah, darned |
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mtompset |
I just rechecked... You're right. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, andreashm cait. :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, amyk |
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amyk |
hello! |
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mtompset |
@karma druthb |
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huginn |
mtompset: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
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* mtompset |
smiles. |
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andreashm |
anyone know if it is possible to pay fines through a web interface using any of Koha's API:s? (Other than SIP2) |
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cait |
all i can think of is sip2 right now hm. |
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cait |
i think ils-di doesn't include that... did you check? |
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andreashm |
not yet, checked here first. (yes, the lazy option) |
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druthb |
not bad karma for someone who hasn't contributed a patch in gosh-knows-when. |
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andreashm |
@karma andreashm |
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huginn |
andreashm: Karma for "andreashm" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. |
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cait |
andreashm: i think kyle has written a patch to pay via paypal |
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cait |
but it will be directly in koha if pushed i think |
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andreashm |
We will want to use our current payment system (DIBS). We can fix the calls made to Koha, we just need the functionality set-up (either improve SIP2 or use something else). |
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mtompset |
@karma mtompset |
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huginn |
mtompset: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. |
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mtompset |
@karma cait |
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huginn |
mtompset: Karma for "cait" has been increased 263 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 263. |
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andreashm |
another question about fines: is it possible to change the description of the various fines somewhere? ("fines", "lost item" etc.) |
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cait |
andreashm: hm in what context? |
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cait |
the display shoudl be mostly translated by now - but not sure what you want to do |
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andreashm |
cait: We would want to change that to show our users when paying fines through our website. |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
the templates map the fines code to a description |
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cait |
the codes are hardocded into Koha |
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andreashm |
ah, ok |
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cait |
and then translated in the templates |
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cait |
hm not sure what SIP gives back - looking at the accountlines table the accounttype would be what i would use |
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cait |
the description is often not ideal (yet) |
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andreashm |
I guess we will need to change that in our web implementation then. |
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cait |
there are some places in Koha that still write some English terms here - like wehn you do a writeoff |
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cait |
but ideally that shoudl not be done |
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andreashm |
thanks cait! |
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andreashm |
cait++ |
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drojf |
the issue_id in the issues table is auto incremented. the issue_id in old_issues is not. why? |
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tcohen |
cait, do u have the rights to add rel_3_22_candidate to bz's list of keywords? |
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cait |
nope |
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cait |
drojf: correct |
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cait |
because we move lines from issues to old_issues |
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cait |
and they keep their id |
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cait |
same for items deleteditems and the other tables where we move lines from here to there |
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drojf |
ah, i see. so it's not really possible to import circulation history from an old system? |
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cait |
you can |
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cait |
but i'd import the circs first |
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cait |
and then you know which numbers to use |
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cait |
or the other way |
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wahanui |
i guess the other way is to pass the array as an arrayref |
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cait |
you import the history and then you can set the PK in issues to the needed value |
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tcohen |
cait: who can? |
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cait |
tcohen: you can migrate circulation history |
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tcohen |
cait: ok |
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cait |
drojf: i think the latter is probably better - circ history first and then make sure the first pk is correct in issues - an example should be in updatedatabase from when we added the pk to reserves/old_reserves |
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drojf |
ok but i have to set a fake id before import than? otherwise i will get an error for duplicate entry 0 |
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drojf |
*then |
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cait |
can you generate an id? just 1 ... |
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cait |
and before you do issues, you set the counter like we did when introducing the feature |
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drojf |
sure. just making sure that is the right way |
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drojf |
thanks. cait++ |
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cait |
nt sure there is a right way... but i think it could work :) |
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drojf |
not sure if the library wants to keep the old data at all, so maybe that is not needed in the end |
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drojf |
but good i checked before offering to do that :D |
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cait |
have to admit... we normally don't migrate history |
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drojf |
i doubt it is necessary in this case |
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cait |
btw... http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.24 :) |
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drojf |
i have not wrangled much bugs this term :/ |
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cait |
why did we translate ordered to Gebunden? :( |
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drojf |
huh? that sounds weird? what context? |
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cait |
order status |
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cait |
and why is the column with the number of ordered items named Pending order? |
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* cait |
got a long list of questions from a library |
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* drojf |
heads home |
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drojf |
later #koha |
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reiveune |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14966: Table header broken at detail.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f41df92fda3e51052> / Bug 14653: Acq planning export always use default active period <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8d492c1dafd291f0d> / Bug 14653: Acq planning filter always use default active period <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb |
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tcohen |
this is what I call 'side effects' http://snag.gy/O2Hq1.jpg |
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cait |
ugh? |
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mtompset |
tcohen: Nice support company page. It's a very clean look. |
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nitz0 |
Hi people, I am testing to send an email to notice overdue. I read that if I run koha_common from crontab daily directory is enough but nothing happens. How can I test mail from koha? |
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cait |
did you configure the overdue notices? |
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cait |
you want tot ake a look at the triggers in the tools section |
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cait |
also the delay given there needs to match with the due dates of your test items so a overdue notice gets generated |
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hector |
mveron: Hi Marc |
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mveron |
Hi Hector :-) |
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* mveron |
has to run away, invitation to diner.. will be back in a couple of hours... |
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hector |
I was looking that QA doesn't aprove the las change for bug 14956 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from files opac/*.pl |
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mveron |
Hector: I will look at thi bug later in the evening... |
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mveron |
See you later... |
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hector |
okidoki |
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nitz0 |
cait: Yes I think I did everything right. |
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nitz0 |
It's not possible to force the email? |
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Joubu |
bye #koha |
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nitz0 |
If I send the first notice the script will not send an email again? |
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nitz0 |
Or where I can find the generated overdue notice...? |
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mtompset |
views/temp/index.php |
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mtompset |
Oops. :) |
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pianohacker |
*gasp* |
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pianohacker |
php-- |
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mtompset |
Corporate policy. Sorry. |
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pianohacker |
(I'm messing with a PHP CSM for a side project as well, so I can't really throw stones, but it's requisite :) ) |
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pianohacker |
*CMS |
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pianohacker |
@later tell ashimema I'm catching up too, what was that in reference to? And would you like a signoff on that? |
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huginn |
pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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* cait |
waves |
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wnickc |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi wnickc :) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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cait |
:) |
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pianohacker |
cait: confuse confuse confuse |
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cait |
hmpf |
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pianohacker |
hehehehe |
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magnuse |
confuse all the things! |
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cait |
not the cait things... |
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rangi |
pianohacker: do you want easy baking recipes? I saw on FB |
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rangi |
and morning |
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pianohacker |
rangi: oh, hi :) I'm fine with all recipes, love cooking |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8rNRmmosmA |
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pianohacker |
rangi: back from vacation? |
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rangi |
for a couple of days more, then off to kohacon on friday |
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pianohacker |
oh yeah that is soon |
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pianohacker |
cool |
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pianohacker |
(YES jaboody dubs, I haven't seen that one) |
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* cait |
waves |
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rangi |
oh cool interesting email from Turkey |
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jcamins |
It would be pretty cool if they integrated Tumer's Zebra changes to 3.x. |
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mtj |
hey #koha |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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magnuse |
yay turkey |
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rangi |
we would have had most of them in if it wasnt for a certain angel investor who thought he was smarter than everyone, be great to get them. And having kohacon next door to turkey next year works out really well! |
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mtj |
so.. is the Turkish Koha a modded verision 2.x ? |
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rangi |
check your inbox |
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rangi |
https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]tober/043888.html |
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mtj |
hmm, i did - but was a bit confused still |
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mtj |
Project went live on 2014 April. ... It was a derived version of Koha 2.x |
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rangi |
2.2 |
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pianohacker |
how on earth are they doing that many bibs without zebra? |
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rangi |
zebra is in there |
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jcamins |
Tumer had a vastly superior Zebra configuration. |
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mtj |
aaaah, ok |
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rangi |
Tumer Garip did a ton of work on zebra, at kohacon6 |
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pianohacker |
oh, gotcha |
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* mtj |
<- mind blown |
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rangi |
@later tell tcohen made the new keyword |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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mtj |
wow, thats impressive |
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cait |
will be really ineresting to see them moving to 3.20 |
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cait |
very very cool project |
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cait |
hope it will be good for them and maybe we can get some of the zebra goodness...? |
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rangi |
yup |
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mtj |
great to hear you are going to kohacon this year, rangi - (i was not sure) |
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rangi |
yep, i think BWS and I might be the only non africans going |
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mtj |
nice brooke too! :0) |
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jcamins |
As long as Brooke is able to get her visa, anyway. |
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magnuse |
isn't paul_p going? |
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jcamins |
She said it hadn't arrived yet. |
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rangi |
naw he got ill |
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magnuse |
oh noes! |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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huginn |
Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen1 |
@later tell Joubu after reading your link, I realized the missing piece is Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath |
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huginn |
tcohen1: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen1 |
hi |
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bag |
can’t be forgetting the middleware tcohen1 |
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tcohen1 |
heh |
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* cait |
waves |
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tcohen1 |
hi cait |
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tcohen |
so I now reveal my real identity |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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cait |
heh |
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tcohen |
rangi: thanks |
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tcohen |
rangi et al: on a packages install (master, preferably kohadevbox:ansible) there is this situation |
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tcohen |
if you trigger an update (like changing the version on the DB) |
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tcohen |
with plack enabled |
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rangi |
right |
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tcohen |
well, you will notice the form points to /intranet/ |
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tcohen |
which is the plack endpoint we have |
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tcohen |
(in the apache config) |
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rangi |
right |
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tcohen |
that means either apache is not sending the right headers |
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tcohen |
http-x-forward-for or something like that |
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wizzyrea |
which os tcohen |
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tcohen |
or we need that other Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath lib (which I didn't make work) |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: osx |
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wizzyrea |
command-shift-3 for whole screen, command-shift-4 for selectable area |
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tcohen |
thanks wizzyrea |
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tcohen |
!! |
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tcohen |
I wasn't remembering to add ctrl |
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tcohen |
so it goes to memory instead of a file |
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tcohen |
http://snag.gy/6tqy3.jpg |
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tcohen |
so, Joubu started to explore tweaking how we deal with paths in our codebase with the assumption we were doing things wrong (my assumption) |
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tcohen |
but it seems we are not doing things that wrong, and there is a problem with this plack configuration schema |
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tcohen |
any volunteer who likes puzzles is welcome :-D |
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rangi |
you have the reverseproxy stuff in apache eh? |
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tcohen |
welcome, and needed |
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rangi |
https://httpd.apache.org/docs/[…]#proxypassreverse |
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rangi |
? |
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tcohen |
rangi: this is it http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/master |
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tcohen |
we have both |
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tcohen |
I think those work for response URLs |
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rangi |
have you tried it with just the reverse, and without the preserve host? |
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tcohen |
hm, I think so |
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tcohen |
rangi: it might be that UDS proxying is just buggy |
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tcohen |
but the mere existence of Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath made me think we need more tweak on our psgi file |
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tcohen |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/master |
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rangi |
yeah could be |
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tcohen |
we definitely need more expert eyes on this |
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rangi |
i wont have a chance until after kohacon |
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tcohen |
ok rangi |
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tcohen |
it was worth trying :-D |
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tcohen |
just more info for the logs: http://search.cpan.org/~bowman[…]verseProxyPath.pm |
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tcohen |
the example creates the scenario by setting several headers, which are expected to be set by apache, anyone debugging this should check that, which could be the root cause |
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tcohen |
thanks rangi |
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rangi |
no worries |
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eythian |
hi |
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* cait |
waves |
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waves |
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