IRC log for #koha, 2015-10-13

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00:00 dcook Let's point to All The Vocabularies!!! Each with their own implicit and explicit biases!
00:00 dcook Well hopefully explicit biases...
00:02 dcook I wonder how that would work with all the vocabularies...
00:02 dcook I would think you'd still need a thesaurus...
00:03 * dcook is going to cut off his ranting now for the sake of the rest
00:04 * Francesca waves
00:04 dcook yo Francesca
00:04 Francesca sup
00:04 dcook Werk
00:04 dcook You?
00:04 wahanui You are welcome
00:04 gmcharlt wizzyrea: looks like the robots.txt tweak for git.k-c worked
00:05 Francesca dcook: I'm good, trying to survive last week of uni them I'm freeeee!
00:05 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ awesome thank you for taking care of that
00:06 dcook Francesca: Awesome :)
00:07 Francesca I am very much looking forward to my holiday
00:07 Francesca no uni means no early mornings yay
00:08 dcook Interesting... are authorities not a thing in BibFrame?
00:08 * dcook finds <bf:hasAuthority rdf:resource="[…]ects/sh2008108600"/> a bit confusing
00:08 dcook Francesca: A holiday would be nice
00:08 wizzyrea github is first that probably explains some things.
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01:05 wizzyrea I need a frikkin holiday.
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03:25 mtj meh, i just bumped into bug 5369 on master
03:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5369 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, se queries with paranthesis fail
03:40 dcook eythian: Don't suppose you're around?
03:40 dcook Whoa...
03:40 dcook Is that bug exactly what I was just thinking about?
03:41 eythian sure am
03:41 dcook eythian: I was just going to ask how your ES work copes with parentheses
03:41 dcook Whether it creates groups or what..
03:41 eythian it does
03:41 eythian it uses the lucene parser
03:41 eythian[…]parsersyntax.html
03:41 dcook What would it do in the case of that bug mtj just mentioned?
03:41 dcook Where the query string contains parentheses?
03:42 eythian probably explode
03:42 dcook hehe
03:42 eythian it's a fair bit more sensitive to malformed queries than zebra, the way I'm using it.
03:42 dcook That's so weird that I would be thinking about this at this time..
03:42 dcook Ahh
03:42 dcook Dinger
03:42 dcook Yeah someone is trying to do the following:
03:42 eythian there's a more robust version, but then I lose a lot of necessary features.
03:42 dcook Host-item:Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal
03:43 dcook And of course it's not working
03:43 dcook Host-item:(Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal)
03:43 dcook would work though
03:43 eythian ah
03:43 eythian I think quotes would solve it in ES
03:43 eythian not 100% sure though
03:43 dcook I take it you don't use quotes atm?
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03:43 dcook I wonder what Koha is doing in the background here anyway..
03:44 eythian I have a lot of query rewriting going on, I can't remember if I do things with quotes or not.
03:44 eythian this is what we need a query parser for, then these decisions can be made by koha itself :)
03:44 dcook True dat
03:45 * dcook is in favour of a query parser
03:45 mtj my bug seems to be caused to having opacsuppression syspref = 1
03:45 dcook mtj: Yeah, I'm noticing that too
03:45 mtj seems to generate bad CCL, in opac search :/
03:45 mtj[…]3657;hb=HEAD#l532
03:45 dcook Actually... mine is without parentheses
03:46 dcook Host-item:Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal is saying something about opac suppression..
03:46 mtj } else {
03:46 mtj $query = "($query) not Suppress=1";
03:46 mtj }
03:46 rangi you have at least one item suppressed eh?
03:46 dcook rangi: Yeah, but if I do a different query, it works
03:46 mtj yeah, i do
03:46 eythian opac suppression is currently done in the worst way possible :/
03:46 dcook So I'm guessing mine has something suppressed
03:46 eythian I need to change that significantly to make it work with ES
03:46 dcook WARNING: query problem with ( ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Search word expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM'
03:46 mtj i get this error..
03:46 mtj AH01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:33:30 2015] WARNING: query problem with ('pb=Bloomsbury,') not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Unknown qualifier") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/ line 384.
03:47 dcook mtj: Unknown qualifier, eh?
03:47 eythian dcook: oh, if a search part is marked as a "phrase" I do manually wrap quotes around it, I think that's all I do with them.
03:48 dcook eythian: Ahh
03:48 dcook mtj: That's really weird
03:49 mtj ooh, actually the pb: search is ok
03:50 mtj ..i was mucking about with the file then
03:50 * eythian closes 2**8 tabs. This make things less annoying.
03:51 mtj its the 'series:phr' search i was getting my error on
03:51 mtj H01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:48:50 2015] WARNING: query problem with (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "')' expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/ line 384.
03:51 dcook Yikes..
03:52 dcook That looks like a missing double quote?
03:52 mtj yeah.. somewhere...?
03:52 eythian I guess the problem generally is it's easy to have a simple parser that can accept anything but isn't flexible, or a complex one that can be made to do anything, but isn't very relaxed about what it accepts.
03:52 mtj hey rangi, welcome home too ;0)
03:52 rangi thanks
03:53 eythian Finding one with both syntax and relaxed-ness is a hard problem.
03:54 dcook mtj: What's your query?
03:54 dcook eythian: Possibly
03:55 dcook I mean... Zebra can be relaxed sometimes but that's because it forces defaults
03:55 dcook So it works but it works differently than you think it does
03:55 dcook thank how*
03:55 dcook than how**
03:55 mtj looks like its the trailing ';' in the search string thats causeing a problem too
03:55 mtj Title Harry Potter ;
03:55 dcook mtj: What on Earth are you searching, man? :p
03:55 dcook I have an extra ":" which is causing my entire query to disappear
03:56 dcook Hence why I got  ( ) not Suppress=1
03:56 eythian dcook: sure, but if it sees "se:(one two", is that broken syntax, or a literal string?
03:56 mtj,phr:"Harry Potter ;"
03:56 eythian it's easier to treat it as broken syntax
03:56 dcook eythian: Ahhh I gotcha. Yeah.
03:56 mtj if i remove the ';'... search works too :/
03:57 mtj,phr:"Harry Potter "
03:57 dcook wth...
03:57 dcook My log says I got a Zebra error, but I'm seeing search results
03:57 dcook Ah stale logs me thinks..
03:57 wizzyrea mtj are you possibly not using xslt?
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03:57 mtj xslt is on
03:58 wizzyrea then it probably got regressed in bootstrap or something
03:58 dcook mtj: You might need to poke through I think that's where I might be headed next..
03:58 wizzyrea iirc the fix wasn't super complicated.
03:59 mtj looks like is been busted forever, i reckon wiz
03:59 mtj i'll check again
04:00 mtj seems hard to believe it wouldnt have been spotted before tho
04:01 eythian wahanui:
04:01 wahanui it has been said that is full of bees.
04:02 mtj anyhoo, thanks for the advice folks
04:02 dcook is... arg
04:03 eythian full of bees, dcook
04:03 eythian I say this as I just typed 'vim C4/' to try to fix something
04:03 eythian :<
04:03 wizzyrea mtj intranet or opac?
04:04 mtj opac wiz, (i dont think opacsuppress is enabled in intra?)
04:04 dcook ^
04:05 wizzyrea cool, well hope you figure it out
04:06 dcook Zebra definitely does something funny with "=" and ":" in a query...
04:06 dcook I'm not getting errors per se but getting zero results (in yaz-client)
04:06 * dcook looks up mtj's query
04:07 dcook Not a good example for me as I have no Harry Potter...
04:07 dcook wtf...
04:07 dcook Yeah, Zebra does interesting things with ";"
04:07 pastebot "dcook" at pasted "Punctuation in Zebra" (16 lines) at
04:07 dcook Ahh it just truncated my query
04:08 * dcook ponders
04:08 dcook Actually, this could be a normalization thing
04:08 dcook mtj: ICU or CHR?
04:08 mtj chr, afaik
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04:09 dcook Hmm probably not related after all..
04:11 dcook Yikes... yeah ";" is definitely bad news
04:22 dcook mtj: Just got that same error and I'm quite confident it's because of that semicolon
04:23 dcook The weird thing is that if I plug in "test ; test"... it works
04:23 dcook I wind up with this query:
04:23 dcook (rk=(Title-cover,ext,r1="test ; test" or ti,ext,r2="test ; test" or Title-cover,phr,r3="test ; test" or wrdl,right-Truncation,r9="test? ; test? " or wrdl,r9="test ; test"))
04:23 dcook Which fails in yaz-client but works in Koha...
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04:29 dcook ZOOM::Query::CCL2RPN might do something..
04:31 dcook Booyah...
04:31 dcook Fix yaz-client: semicolon terminates arguments YAZ-851.
04:31 dcook Of course it's not fixed until 5.14.5 2015/08/06
04:31 dcook mtj: ^
04:35 dcook Ahhh
04:35 dcook I'm guessing ZOOM::QUERY::CCL2RPN is converting the semicolon to a colon...
04:35 dcook Because Zebra is being hit with this: @or @or @or @or @attr 1=36 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=32 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 1=4 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=28 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 1=36 @attr 4=1 @attr 9=26 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 "test? : test? " @attr 4=6 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 "test : test"
04:35 dcook Which is why it's working...
04:39 dcook Interesting... lots of punctuation creates problems
04:39 dcook Without errors
04:43 dcook Oh... but you can see it in the zebra logs..
04:43 dcook test * test
04:43 dcook becomes: @and @and test @attr 5=2 "" test
04:44 dcook That's cool... * and ? really are both truncation characters after all..
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05:01 dcook eythian: Are you still around?
05:01 dcook Or anyone that uses packages...
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05:12 dcook I've investigated this before...
05:12 dcook That's slightly depressing
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05:27 dcook Well that's confusing. The semicolon thing appears to only be in yaz-client..
05:27 dcook Koha seems to handle it fine?
05:29 * magnuse waves
05:29 dcook yo magnuse
05:29 magnuse yo yo!
05:30 * magnuse uses packages
05:31 dcook Cool!
05:31 dcook Does zebrasrv log anywhere?
05:38 cdickinson dcook: /var/log/koha/{site_name}/z​ebra[-{error|output}].log?
05:38 dcook cdickinson: Sweet. Thanks :)
05:38 dcook I was too lazy to boot up a VM to check
05:38 dcook We use a non-standard Koha setup, so I never know what all y'all are doing
05:39 cdickinson the machine I'm using now has some Koha test sites on it
05:39 cdickinson debugging Zebra is so annoying
05:39 dcook You get used to it
05:39 dcook Sort of ;)
05:40 cdickinson gives cryptic error messages
05:40 cdickinson but they're unique at least so in that way they're helpful because you know what causes them
05:40 mtj thanks for the zeb info dcook
05:40 dcook mtj: I figured out your problems
05:41 dcook ('pb=Bloomsbury,') not Suppress=1
05:41 dcook It's the single quotes
05:41 dcook It thinks you're saying 'pb is a qualifier
05:41 dcook (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1
05:41 dcook You're missing a second double quote
05:41 dcook Double quotes denote a term
05:41 dcook Single quotes are literals
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05:42 dcook cdickinson: Yeah some errors are easier to understand than others
05:42 dcook For instance:
05:42 dcook H01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:48:50 2015] WARNING: query problem with (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "')' expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/ line 384.
05:42 dcook That's a bit misleading
05:42 dcook It's actually a " which is expected...
05:42 dcook I guess it says ')' because it's treating ) as part of the term
05:43 dcook More fun?
05:43 dcook "This is a term" is good
05:43 dcook "This "is" a term" is good... it'll ignore the double quotes around is
05:43 dcook ""This is a term"" is bad
05:43 dcook As "" and "" are ignored
05:44 dcook More fun...
05:45 cdickinson lol
05:45 dcook Host-item:"Criminology and criminal justice an international journal"
05:45 dcook I need those double quotes to specify that's one big term
05:45 dcook So that the "and" doesn't get interpreted as an operator
05:45 dcook Well not one big term...
05:45 dcook But as a unit I guess..
05:47 dcook Actually, I'm going to overload my brain in a moment :p
06:04 magnuse cdickinson++ for providing the right answer while i was elsewhere
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06:48 reiveune hello
06:48 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:49 reiveune salut magnuse rangi dcook
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06:56 magnuse Viktor: is there a list somewhere of all the libraries in sweden that use koha?
06:57 Joubu hello
06:58 dojobo 'morning (or whatever) everyone
06:58 Viktor magnuse Not really. Think it's been discussed briefly somewhere. But since there's (not yet) any user group it's sort of what I come across while being "the guy who works with Koha"
07:00 magnuse Viktor: is there a list of what you have come across, then? :-)
07:01 Viktor magnuse Not yet. But I'll try and give it a quick compile.
07:01 magnuse yay
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07:24 cait good morning #koha
07:24 atheia morning cait!
07:24 cait morning atheia :)
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07:26 cait morning mveron
07:26 mveron cait: You are fast! Good morning :-)
07:27 paul_p joined #koha
07:27 mveron ...and good morning / daytime to everybody
07:27 magnuse hiya cait atheia mveron paul_p
07:28 mveron Hi magnuse and paul_p
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07:38 dojobo morning cait
07:42 * mveron did a search for 'Remove C4::Dates': 31 Bugs, 15 need Sign-off, 6 Signed-off, 1 Fail, 9 Pushed. 4 files left on Bug 14870. And Bug 12072 is ready for testing, but needs all C4::Dates removals.
07:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Delete C4/ from System
07:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat
07:42 cait morning dojobo
07:42 cait wow
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09:18 ashimema morning cait
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09:19 cait morning ashimema :)
09:19 magnuse hiya ashimema
09:19 cait Joubu: will try to continue tonight - i already started checking some of hte pages it changes too
09:19 ashimema wow..
09:19 ashimema huggin just gave me some laters dating back weeks..
09:20 ashimema sure I've taling in main chat more recnelty that that
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09:21 ashimema @later tell pianohacker is that not related to[…]_bug.cgi?id=14034
09:21 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
09:21 huginn Bug 14034: normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , User logged out on refresh after Shibboleth authentication
09:26 cait ashimema: love the interaction on the rest api patches - keep the ball rolling :)
09:26 * ashimema needs to look at them again soon
09:26 cait and reminder - dev meeting tomorrow!
09:27 ashimema :)
09:27 ashimema over google hangouts too if I get my way :)
09:31 cait hm might be good to annoucne then, if that's the plan
09:31 cait or do you want to do it in parallel?
09:31 cait i have no access here to google hangouts at work
09:31 ashimema :(
09:31 cait and no camera
09:32 ashimema always throwing spanners cait.
09:32 ashimema it's the audio I was really after.. not the video
09:32 ashimema it's generally more fruitful to talk then to type I find :0
09:32 cait it's just quite unusual here for us - skype or google hangout - i have had problems with that a few times
09:33 ashimema :(
09:33 cait which time is the meeting anyway? *checks*
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10:30 drojf hi #koha
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10:41 * andreashm waves
10:41 andreashm cait: around?
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10:57 cait here
10:57 cait oh
10:57 cait now i missed him
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11:41 ashimema he's over there
11:45 cait hm?
11:46 cait where is over there? :)
11:46 ashimema now you missed him?
11:46 ashimema lol
11:46 cait you are confusing me :)
11:47 ashimema that's what I do best..
11:49 * magnuse declares "confuse cait" day
11:49 cait hmpf
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12:08 druthb magnuse!
12:08 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
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12:08 druthb be nice to cait, Or Else.
12:17 jcamins francharb: hey, do I recall that you moved to Montreal?
12:17 cait this cati wonders how she can create debarment entries... when the patron import doesn't :(
12:17 cait like... what if i want to add a debarment for a group of borrowers... hm.
12:18 francharb Hi jcamins! Yes I did! 2 years ago.
12:18 francharb :)
12:18 francharb And I was in NY this week end
12:19 francharb Do you still live there? jcamins
12:19 jcamins Yes I do.
12:19 jcamins You should've let us know... you could've come to the milonga we went to on Saturday!
12:19 jcamins It was excellent.
12:20 jcamins We're thinking of a vacation in Montreal at the end of November.
12:27 magnuse jcamins: noooo, come to norway!
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12:32 tcohen morning
12:32 nengard morning tcohen
12:33 jcamins magnuse: flights to Montreal are a whole lot cheaper.
12:34 nengard norway is better though :) hehe
12:35 magnuse jcamins: and shorter, i bet ;-)
12:36 jcamins magnuse: that too.
12:39 magnuse ...and therefore less damaging to the environment...
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13:36 * andreashm waves
13:38 * Kchris waves
13:40 cait hi andreashm :)
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13:47 Kchris hi cait :)
13:47 cait hi Kchris
13:48 Kchris I just tested a bug on the sandboxes (#2). I got an email that the sandbox was not ready, but it appears to me that the patch WAS applied. Does this make any sense?
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13:50 * andreashm is back again. keep getting logged out today it seems.
13:50 cait oh
13:51 cait *pokes andreashm to see if he is really here now*
13:51 andreashm I'm here!
13:53 tcohen hi cait
13:54 cait hi tcohen :)
13:55 andreashm hi cait, tcohen
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13:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:57 andreashm hey mtompset
13:57 wahanui somebody said mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
13:57 mtompset Dev meeting in 3 minutes, right?
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13:58 andreashm oh, dev meeting now? nice timing from me - I had forgotten.
13:59 mtompset I think so.
13:59 mtompset wahanui: forget mtompset
13:59 wahanui mtompset: I forgot mtompset
13:59 mtompset mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects.
14:00 mtompset mtompset?
14:00 wahanui rumour has it mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects
14:00 cait i think it's 14th
14:00 cait tomorrow
14:00 wahanui tomorrow is a mystical land where 99% of all human productivity, motivation and achievement is stored.
14:00 andreashm ah, darned
14:01 mtompset I just rechecked... You're right.
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14:02 mtompset Greetings, andreashm cait. :)
14:02 mtompset Greetings, amyk
14:02 amyk hello!
14:04 mtompset @karma druthb
14:04 huginn mtompset: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
14:04 * mtompset smiles.
14:05 andreashm anyone know if it is possible to pay fines through a web interface using any of Koha's API:s? (Other than SIP2)
14:05 cait all i can think of is sip2 right now hm.
14:05 cait i think ils-di doesn't include that... did you check?
14:06 andreashm not yet, checked here first. (yes, the lazy option)
14:07 druthb not bad karma for someone who hasn't contributed a patch in gosh-knows-when.
14:07 andreashm @karma andreashm
14:07 huginn andreashm: Karma for "andreashm" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7.
14:08 cait andreashm: i think kyle has written a patch to pay via paypal
14:08 cait but it will be directly in koha if pushed i think
14:10 andreashm We will want to use our current payment system (DIBS). We can fix the calls made to Koha, we just need the functionality set-up (either improve SIP2 or use something else).
14:16 mtompset @karma mtompset
14:16 huginn mtompset: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28.
14:17 mtompset @karma cait
14:17 huginn mtompset: Karma for "cait" has been increased 263 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 263.
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14:28 andreashm another question about fines: is it possible to change the description of the various fines somewhere? ("fines", "lost item" etc.)
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14:36 cait andreashm: hm in what context?
14:36 cait the display shoudl be mostly translated by now - but not sure what you want to do
14:37 andreashm cait: We would want to change that to show our users when paying fines through our website.
14:40 cait ah
14:40 cait the templates map the fines code to a description
14:41 cait the codes are hardocded into Koha
14:41 andreashm ah, ok
14:41 cait and then translated in the templates
14:42 cait hm not sure what SIP gives back - looking at the accountlines table the accounttype would be what i would use
14:42 cait the description is often not ideal (yet)
14:42 andreashm I guess we will need to change that in our web implementation then.
14:42 cait there are some places in Koha that still write some English terms here - like wehn you do a writeoff
14:42 cait but ideally that shoudl not be done
14:43 andreashm thanks cait!
14:43 andreashm cait++
14:51 drojf the issue_id in the issues table is auto incremented. the issue_id in old_issues is not. why?
14:51 tcohen cait, do u have the rights to add rel_3_22_candidate to bz's list of keywords?
14:51 cait nope
14:52 cait drojf: correct
14:52 cait because we move lines from issues to old_issues
14:52 cait and they keep their id
14:52 cait same for items deleteditems and the other tables where we move lines from here to there
14:52 drojf ah, i see. so it's not really possible to import circulation history from an old system?
14:53 cait you can
14:53 cait but i'd import the circs first
14:53 cait and then you know which numbers to use
14:53 cait or the other way
14:53 wahanui i guess the other way is to pass the array as an arrayref
14:53 cait you import the history and then you can set the PK in issues to the needed value
14:53 tcohen cait: who can?
14:54 cait tcohen: you can migrate circulation history
14:54 tcohen cait: ok
14:54 cait drojf: i think the latter is probably better - circ history first and then make sure the first pk is correct in issues - an example should be in updatedatabase from when we added the pk to reserves/old_reserves
14:54 drojf ok but i have to set a fake id before import than? otherwise i will get an error for duplicate entry 0
14:55 drojf *then
14:55 cait can you generate an id? just 1 ...
14:55 cait and before you do issues, you set the counter like we did when introducing the feature
14:56 drojf sure. just making sure that is the right way
14:56 drojf thanks. cait++
14:57 cait nt sure there is a right way... but i think it could work :)
14:57 drojf not sure if the library wants to keep the old data at all, so maybe that is not needed in the end
14:58 drojf but good i checked before offering to do that :D
14:58 cait have to admit... we normally don't migrate history
14:58 drojf i doubt it is necessary in this case
14:59 cait btw...[…]ki/Roles_for_3.24 :)
14:59 drojf i have not wrangled much bugs this term :/
15:01 cait why did we translate ordered to Gebunden? :(
15:01 drojf huh? that sounds weird? what context?
15:02 cait order status
15:03 cait and why is the column with the number of ordered items named Pending order?
15:04 * cait got a long list of questions from a library
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15:17 drojf later #koha
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15:22 reiveune bye
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15:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14966: Table header broken at <[…]f41df92fda3e51052> / Bug 14653: Acq planning export always use default active period <[…]8d492c1dafd291f0d> / Bug 14653: Acq planning filter always use default active period <
15:28 tcohen this is what I call 'side effects'
15:30 cait ugh?
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15:41 mtompset tcohen: Nice support company page. It's a very clean look.
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15:57 nitz0 Hi people, I am testing to send an email to notice overdue. I read that if I run koha_common from crontab daily directory is enough but nothing happens. How can I test mail from koha?
16:00 cait did you configure the overdue notices?
16:00 cait you want tot ake a look at the triggers in the tools section
16:01 cait also the delay given there needs to match with the due dates of your test items so a overdue notice gets generated
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16:06 hector mveron: Hi Marc
16:07 mveron Hi Hector :-)
16:07 * mveron has to run away, invitation to diner..  will be back in a couple of hours...
16:07 hector I was looking that QA doesn't aprove the las change for bug 14956
16:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from files opac/*.pl
16:08 mveron Hector: I will look at thi bug later in the evening...
16:08 mveron See you later...
16:09 hector okidoki
16:10 nitz0 cait: Yes I think I did everything right.
16:11 nitz0 It's not possible to force the email?
16:12 Joubu bye #koha
16:20 nitz0 If I send the first notice the script will not send an email again?
16:22 nitz0 Or where I can find the generated overdue notice...?
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18:24 mtompset views/temp/index.php
18:24 mtompset Oops. :)
18:25 pianohacker *gasp*
18:25 pianohacker php--
18:28 mtompset Corporate policy. Sorry.
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18:29 pianohacker (I'm messing with a PHP CSM for a side project as well, so I can't really throw stones, but it's requisite :) )
18:29 pianohacker *CMS
18:30 pianohacker @later tell ashimema I'm catching up too, what was that in reference to? And would you like a signoff on that?
18:30 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
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18:48 * cait waves
18:50 wnickc hi cait
18:51 cait hi wnickc :)
19:01 * magnuse waves
19:07 cait :)
19:11 pianohacker cait: confuse confuse confuse
19:11 cait hmpf
19:11 pianohacker hehehehe
19:14 magnuse confuse all the things!
19:14 cait not the cait things...
19:18 rangi pianohacker: do you want easy baking recipes? I saw on FB
19:18 rangi and morning
19:21 pianohacker rangi: oh, hi :) I'm fine with all recipes, love cooking
19:21 rangi
19:21 pianohacker rangi: back from vacation?
19:21 rangi for a couple of days more, then off to kohacon on friday
19:22 pianohacker oh yeah that is soon
19:22 pianohacker cool
19:22 pianohacker (YES jaboody dubs, I haven't seen that one)
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19:27 * cait waves
19:29 rangi oh cool interesting email from Turkey
19:36 jcamins It would be pretty cool if they integrated Tumer's Zebra changes to 3.x.
19:36 mtj hey #koha
19:36 rangi *nod*
19:37 magnuse yay turkey
19:37 rangi we would have had most of them in if it wasnt for a certain angel investor who thought he was smarter than everyone, be great to get them. And having kohacon next door to turkey next year works out really well!
19:38 mtj so.. is the Turkish Koha a modded verision 2.x ?
19:38 rangi check your inbox
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19:41 rangi[…]tober/043888.html
19:41 mtj hmm, i did - but was a bit confused still
19:41 mtj Project went live on 2014 April. ... It was a derived version of Koha 2.x
19:42 rangi 2.2
19:42 pianohacker how on earth are they doing that many bibs without zebra?
19:42 rangi zebra is in there
19:42 jcamins Tumer had a vastly superior Zebra configuration.
19:42 mtj aaaah, ok
19:42 rangi Tumer Garip did a ton of work on zebra, at kohacon6
19:42 pianohacker oh, gotcha
19:42 * mtj <- mind blown
19:43 rangi @later tell tcohen made the new keyword
19:43 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:43 mtj wow, thats impressive
19:43 cait will be really ineresting to see them moving to 3.20
19:43 cait very very cool project
19:43 cait hope it will be good for them and maybe we can get some of the zebra goodness...?
19:43 rangi yup
19:44 mtj great to hear you are going to kohacon this year, rangi - (i was not sure)
19:45 rangi yep, i think BWS and I might be the only non africans going
19:45 mtj nice brooke too! :0)
19:45 jcamins As long as Brooke is able to get her visa, anyway.
19:45 magnuse isn't paul_p going?
19:46 jcamins She said it hadn't arrived yet.
19:46 rangi naw he got ill
19:46 magnuse oh noes!
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20:28 Francesca @wunder wlg
20:28 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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20:57 tcohen1 @later tell Joubu after reading your link, I realized the missing piece is Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath
20:57 huginn tcohen1: The operation succeeded.
20:58 tcohen1 hi
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21:04 bag can’t be forgetting the middleware tcohen1
21:05 tcohen1 heh
21:06 * cait waves
21:07 tcohen1 hi cait
21:07 tcohen so I now reveal my real identity
21:07 cait hi tcohen :)
21:07 cait heh
21:07 tcohen rangi: thanks
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21:09 tcohen rangi et al: on a packages install (master, preferably kohadevbox:ansible) there is this situation
21:09 tcohen if you trigger an update (like changing the version on the DB)
21:09 tcohen with plack enabled
21:09 rangi right
21:11 tcohen well, you will notice the form points to /intranet/
21:11 tcohen which is the plack endpoint we have
21:11 tcohen (in the apache config)
21:11 rangi right
21:11 tcohen that means either apache is not sending the right headers
21:12 tcohen http-x-forward-for or something like that
21:12 wizzyrea which os tcohen
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21:12 tcohen or we need that other Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath lib (which I didn't make work)
21:12 tcohen wizzyrea: osx
21:13 wizzyrea command-shift-3 for whole screen, command-shift-4 for selectable area
21:13 tcohen thanks wizzyrea
21:13 tcohen !!
21:13 tcohen I wasn't remembering to add ctrl
21:14 tcohen so it goes to memory instead of a file
21:14 tcohen
21:15 tcohen so, Joubu started to explore tweaking how we deal with paths in our codebase with the assumption we were doing things wrong (my assumption)
21:15 tcohen but it seems we are not doing things that wrong, and there is a problem with this plack configuration schema
21:15 tcohen any volunteer who likes puzzles is welcome :-D
21:16 rangi you have the reverseproxy stuff in apache eh?
21:16 tcohen welcome, and needed
21:17 rangi[…]#proxypassreverse
21:17 rangi ?
21:17 tcohen rangi: this is it[…]refs/heads/master
21:17 tcohen we have both
21:17 tcohen I think those work for response URLs
21:17 rangi have you tried it with just the reverse, and without the preserve host?
21:17 tcohen hm, I think so
21:19 tcohen rangi: it might be that UDS proxying is just buggy
21:19 tcohen but the mere existence of Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath made me think we need more tweak on our psgi file
21:19 tcohen[…]refs/heads/master
21:19 rangi yeah could be
21:20 tcohen we definitely need more expert eyes on this
21:22 rangi i wont have a chance until after kohacon
21:22 tcohen ok rangi
21:22 tcohen it was worth trying :-D
21:23 tcohen just more info for the logs:[…]
21:23 tcohen the example creates the scenario by setting several headers, which are expected to be set by apache, anyone debugging this should check that, which could be the root cause
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21:32 tcohen thanks rangi
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21:32 rangi no worries
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21:36 eythian hi
21:39 * cait waves
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