Time Nick Message
00:00 dcook Let's point to All The Vocabularies!!! Each with their own implicit and explicit biases!
00:00 dcook Well hopefully explicit biases...
00:02 dcook I wonder how that would work with all the vocabularies...
00:02 dcook I would think you'd still need a thesaurus...
00:03 * dcook is going to cut off his ranting now for the sake of the rest
00:04 * Francesca waves
00:04 dcook yo Francesca
00:04 Francesca sup
00:04 dcook Werk
00:04 dcook You?
00:04 wahanui You are welcome
00:04 gmcharlt wizzyrea: looks like the robots.txt tweak for git.k-c worked
00:05 Francesca dcook: I'm good, trying to survive last week of uni them I'm freeeee!
00:05 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ awesome thank you for taking care of that
00:06 dcook Francesca: Awesome :)
00:07 Francesca I am very much looking forward to my holiday
00:07 Francesca no uni means no early mornings yay
00:08 dcook Interesting... are authorities not a thing in BibFrame?
00:08 * dcook finds <bf:hasAuthority rdf:resource="http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh2008108600"/> a bit confusing
00:08 dcook Francesca: A holiday would be nice
00:08 wizzyrea github is first that probably explains some things.
01:05 wizzyrea I need a frikkin holiday.
03:25 mtj meh, i just bumped into bug 5369 on master
03:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5369 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, se queries with paranthesis fail
03:40 dcook eythian: Don't suppose you're around?
03:40 dcook Whoa...
03:40 dcook Is that bug exactly what I was just thinking about?
03:41 eythian sure am
03:41 dcook eythian: I was just going to ask how your ES work copes with parentheses
03:41 dcook Whether it creates groups or what..
03:41 eythian it does
03:41 eythian it uses the lucene parser
03:41 eythian http://lucene.apache.org/core/3_0_3/queryparsersyntax.html
03:41 dcook What would it do in the case of that bug mtj just mentioned?
03:41 dcook Where the query string contains parentheses?
03:42 eythian probably explode
03:42 dcook hehe
03:42 eythian it's a fair bit more sensitive to malformed queries than zebra, the way I'm using it.
03:42 dcook That's so weird that I would be thinking about this at this time..
03:42 dcook Ahh
03:42 dcook Dinger
03:42 dcook Yeah someone is trying to do the following:
03:42 eythian there's a more robust version, but then I lose a lot of necessary features.
03:42 dcook Host-item:Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal
03:43 dcook And of course it's not working
03:43 dcook Host-item:(Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal)
03:43 dcook would work though
03:43 eythian ah
03:43 eythian I think quotes would solve it in ES
03:43 eythian not 100% sure though
03:43 dcook I take it you don't use quotes atm?
03:43 dcook I wonder what Koha is doing in the background here anyway..
03:44 eythian I have a lot of query rewriting going on, I can't remember if I do things with quotes or not.
03:44 eythian this is what we need a query parser for, then these decisions can be made by koha itself :)
03:44 dcook True dat
03:45 * dcook is in favour of a query parser
03:45 mtj my bug seems to be caused to having opacsuppression syspref = 1
03:45 dcook mtj: Yeah, I'm noticing that too
03:45 mtj ..it seems to generate bad CCL, in opac search :/
03:45 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=opac/opac-search.pl;h=81f2bbb4eff978a7302b05c2d6cb0c95fa543657;hb=HEAD#l532
03:45 dcook Actually... mine is without parentheses
03:46 dcook Host-item:Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal is saying something about opac suppression..
03:46 mtj } else {
03:46 mtj $query = "($query) not Suppress=1";
03:46 mtj }
03:46 rangi you have at least one item suppressed eh?
03:46 dcook rangi: Yeah, but if I do a different query, it works
03:46 mtj yeah, i do
03:46 eythian opac suppression is currently done in the worst way possible :/
03:46 dcook So I'm guessing mine has something suppressed
03:46 eythian I need to change that significantly to make it work with ES
03:46 dcook WARNING: query problem with ( ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Search word expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM'
03:46 mtj i get this error..
03:46 mtj AH01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:33:30 2015] opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with ('pb=Bloomsbury,') not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Unknown qualifier") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/Search.pm line 384.
03:47 dcook mtj: Unknown qualifier, eh?
03:47 eythian dcook: oh, if a search part is marked as a "phrase" I do manually wrap quotes around it, I think that's all I do with them.
03:48 dcook eythian: Ahh
03:48 dcook mtj: That's really weird
03:49 mtj ooh, actually the pb: search is ok
03:50 mtj ..i was mucking about with the opac-search.pl file then
03:50 * eythian closes 2**8 tabs. This make things less annoying.
03:51 mtj its the 'series:phr' search i was getting my error on
03:51 mtj H01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:48:50 2015] opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "')' expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/Search.pm line 384.
03:51 dcook Yikes..
03:52 dcook That looks like a missing double quote?
03:52 mtj yeah.. somewhere...?
03:52 eythian I guess the problem generally is it's easy to have a simple parser that can accept anything but isn't flexible, or a complex one that can be made to do anything, but isn't very relaxed about what it accepts.
03:52 mtj hey rangi, welcome home too ;0)
03:52 rangi thanks
03:53 eythian Finding one with both syntax and relaxed-ness is a hard problem.
03:54 dcook mtj: What's your query?
03:54 dcook eythian: Possibly
03:55 dcook I mean... Zebra can be relaxed sometimes but that's because it forces defaults
03:55 dcook So it works but it works differently than you think it does
03:55 dcook thank how*
03:55 dcook than how**
03:55 mtj looks like its the trailing ';' in the search string thats causeing a problem too
03:55 mtj 440 #0 - SERIES STATEMENT/ADDED ENTRY--TITLE
03:55 mtj Title Harry Potter ;
03:55 dcook mtj: What on Earth are you searching, man? :p
03:55 dcook I have an extra ":" which is causing my entire query to disappear
03:56 dcook Hence why I got ( ) not Suppress=1
03:56 eythian dcook: sure, but if it sees "se:(one two", is that broken syntax, or a literal string?
03:56 mtj opac-search.pl?q=se,phr:"Harry Potter ;"
03:56 eythian it's easier to treat it as broken syntax
03:56 dcook eythian: Ahhh I gotcha. Yeah.
03:56 mtj if i remove the ';'... search works too :/
03:57 mtj opac-search.pl?q=se,phr:"Harry Potter "
03:57 dcook wth...
03:57 dcook My log says I got a Zebra error, but I'm seeing search results
03:57 dcook Ah stale logs me thinks..
03:57 wizzyrea mtj are you possibly not using xslt?
03:57 mtj xslt is on
03:58 wizzyrea then it probably got regressed in bootstrap or something
03:58 dcook mtj: You might need to poke through Search.pm. I think that's where I might be headed next..
03:58 wizzyrea iirc the fix wasn't super complicated.
03:59 mtj looks like is been busted forever, i reckon wiz
03:59 mtj i'll check again
04:00 mtj seems hard to believe it wouldnt have been spotted before tho
04:01 eythian wahanui: search.pm
04:01 wahanui it has been said that search.pm is full of bees.
04:02 mtj anyhoo, thanks for the advice folks
04:02 dcook Search.pm is... arg
04:03 eythian full of bees, dcook
04:03 eythian I say this as I just typed 'vim C4/Search.pm' to try to fix something
04:03 eythian :<
04:03 wizzyrea mtj intranet or opac?
04:04 mtj opac wiz, (i dont think opacsuppress is enabled in intra?)
04:04 dcook ^
04:05 wizzyrea cool, well hope you figure it out
04:06 dcook Zebra definitely does something funny with "=" and ":" in a query...
04:06 dcook I'm not getting errors per se but getting zero results (in yaz-client)
04:06 * dcook looks up mtj's query
04:07 dcook Not a good example for me as I have no Harry Potter...
04:07 dcook wtf...
04:07 dcook Yeah, Zebra does interesting things with ";"
04:07 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Punctuation in Zebra" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/107
04:07 dcook Ahh it just truncated my query
04:08 * dcook ponders
04:08 dcook Actually, this could be a normalization thing
04:08 dcook mtj: ICU or CHR?
04:08 mtj chr, afaik
04:09 dcook Hmm probably not related after all..
04:11 dcook Yikes... yeah ";" is definitely bad news
04:22 dcook mtj: Just got that same error and I'm quite confident it's because of that semicolon
04:23 dcook The weird thing is that if I plug in "test ; test"... it works
04:23 dcook I wind up with this query:
04:23 dcook (rk=(Title-cover,ext,r1="test ; test" or ti,ext,r2="test ; test" or Title-cover,phr,r3="test ; test" or wrdl,right-Truncation,r9="test? ; test? " or wrdl,r9="test ; test"))
04:23 dcook Which fails in yaz-client but works in Koha...
04:29 dcook ZOOM::Query::CCL2RPN might do something..
04:31 dcook Booyah...
04:31 dcook Fix yaz-client: semicolon terminates arguments YAZ-851.
04:31 dcook Of course it's not fixed until 5.14.5 2015/08/06
04:31 dcook mtj: ^
04:35 dcook Ahhh
04:35 dcook I'm guessing ZOOM::QUERY::CCL2RPN is converting the semicolon to a colon...
04:35 dcook Because Zebra is being hit with this: @or @or @or @or @attr 1=36 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=32 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 1=4 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=28 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 1=36 @attr 4=1 @attr 9=26 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 "test? : test? " @attr 4=6 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 "test : test"
04:35 dcook Which is why it's working...
04:39 dcook Interesting... lots of punctuation creates problems
04:39 dcook Without errors
04:43 dcook Oh... but you can see it in the zebra logs..
04:43 dcook test * test
04:43 dcook becomes: @and @and test @attr 5=2 "" test
04:44 dcook That's cool... * and ? really are both truncation characters after all..
05:01 dcook eythian: Are you still around?
05:01 dcook Or anyone that uses packages...
05:12 dcook I've investigated this before...
05:12 dcook That's slightly depressing
05:27 dcook Well that's confusing. The semicolon thing appears to only be in yaz-client..
05:27 dcook Koha seems to handle it fine?
05:29 * magnuse waves
05:29 dcook yo magnuse
05:29 magnuse yo yo!
05:30 * magnuse uses packages
05:31 dcook Cool!
05:31 dcook Does zebrasrv log anywhere?
05:38 cdickinson dcook: /var/log/koha/{site_name}/zebra[-{error|output}].log?
05:38 dcook cdickinson: Sweet. Thanks :)
05:38 dcook I was too lazy to boot up a VM to check
05:38 dcook We use a non-standard Koha setup, so I never know what all y'all are doing
05:39 cdickinson the machine I'm using now has some Koha test sites on it
05:39 cdickinson debugging Zebra is so annoying
05:39 dcook You get used to it
05:39 dcook Sort of ;)
05:40 cdickinson gives cryptic error messages
05:40 cdickinson but they're unique at least so in that way they're helpful because you know what causes them
05:40 mtj thanks for the zeb info dcook
05:40 dcook mtj: I figured out your problems
05:41 dcook ('pb=Bloomsbury,') not Suppress=1
05:41 dcook It's the single quotes
05:41 dcook It thinks you're saying 'pb is a qualifier
05:41 dcook (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1
05:41 dcook You're missing a second double quote
05:41 dcook Double quotes denote a term
05:41 dcook Single quotes are literals
05:42 dcook cdickinson: Yeah some errors are easier to understand than others
05:42 dcook For instance:
05:42 dcook H01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:48:50 2015] opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "')' expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/Search.pm line 384.
05:42 dcook That's a bit misleading
05:42 dcook It's actually a " which is expected...
05:42 dcook I guess it says ')' because it's treating ) as part of the term
05:43 dcook More fun?
05:43 dcook "This is a term" is good
05:43 dcook "This "is" a term" is good... it'll ignore the double quotes around is
05:43 dcook ""This is a term"" is bad
05:43 dcook As "" and "" are ignored
05:44 dcook More fun...
05:45 cdickinson lol
05:45 dcook Host-item:"Criminology and criminal justice an international journal"
05:45 dcook I need those double quotes to specify that's one big term
05:45 dcook So that the "and" doesn't get interpreted as an operator
05:45 dcook Well not one big term...
05:45 dcook But as a unit I guess..
05:47 dcook Actually, I'm going to overload my brain in a moment :p
06:04 magnuse cdickinson++ for providing the right answer while i was elsewhere
06:48 reiveune hello
06:48 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:49 reiveune salut magnuse rangi dcook
06:56 magnuse Viktor: is there a list somewhere of all the libraries in sweden that use koha?
06:57 Joubu hello
06:58 dojobo 'morning (or whatever) everyone
06:58 Viktor magnuse Not really. Think it's been discussed briefly somewhere. But since there's (not yet) any user group it's sort of what I come across while being "the guy who works with Koha"
07:00 magnuse Viktor: is there a list of what you have come across, then? :-)
07:01 Viktor magnuse Not yet. But I'll try and give it a quick compile.
07:01 magnuse yay
07:24 cait good morning #koha
07:24 atheia morning cait!
07:24 cait morning atheia :)
07:26 cait morning mveron
07:26 mveron cait: You are fast! Good morning :-)
07:27 mveron ...and good morning / daytime to everybody
07:27 magnuse hiya cait atheia mveron paul_p
07:28 mveron Hi magnuse and paul_p
07:38 dojobo morning cait
07:42 * mveron did a search for 'Remove C4::Dates': 31 Bugs, 15 need Sign-off, 6 Signed-off, 1 Fail, 9 Pushed. 4 files left on Bug 14870. And Bug 12072 is ready for testing, but needs all C4::Dates removals.
07:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System
07:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy
07:42 cait morning dojobo
07:42 cait wow
09:18 ashimema morning cait
09:19 cait morning ashimema :)
09:19 magnuse hiya ashimema
09:19 cait Joubu: will try to continue tonight - i already started checking some of hte pages it changes too
09:19 ashimema wow..
09:19 ashimema huggin just gave me some laters dating back weeks..
09:20 ashimema sure I've taling in main chat more recnelty that that
09:21 ashimema @later tell pianohacker is that not related to http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14034
09:21 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
09:21 huginn 04Bug 14034: normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , User logged out on refresh after Shibboleth authentication
09:26 cait ashimema: love the interaction on the rest api patches - keep the ball rolling :)
09:26 * ashimema needs to look at them again soon
09:26 cait and reminder - dev meeting tomorrow!
09:27 ashimema :)
09:27 ashimema over google hangouts too if I get my way :)
09:31 cait hm might be good to annoucne then, if that's the plan
09:31 cait or do you want to do it in parallel?
09:31 cait i have no access here to google hangouts at work
09:31 ashimema :(
09:31 cait and no camera
09:32 ashimema always throwing spanners cait.
09:32 ashimema it's the audio I was really after.. not the video
09:32 ashimema it's generally more fruitful to talk then to type I find :0
09:32 cait it's just quite unusual here for us - skype or google hangout - i have had problems with that a few times
09:33 ashimema :(
09:33 cait which time is the meeting anyway? *checks*
10:30 drojf hi #koha
10:41 * andreashm waves
10:41 andreashm cait: around?
10:57 cait here
10:57 cait oh
10:57 cait now i missed him
11:41 ashimema he's over there
11:45 cait hm?
11:46 cait where is over there? :)
11:46 ashimema now you missed him?
11:46 ashimema lol
11:46 cait you are confusing me :)
11:47 ashimema that's what I do best..
11:49 * magnuse declares "confuse cait" day
11:49 cait hmpf
12:08 druthb magnuse!
12:08 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
12:08 druthb be nice to cait, Or Else.
12:17 jcamins francharb: hey, do I recall that you moved to Montreal?
12:17 cait this cati wonders how she can create debarment entries... when the patron import doesn't :(
12:17 cait like... what if i want to add a debarment for a group of borrowers... hm.
12:18 francharb Hi jcamins! Yes I did! 2 years ago.
12:18 francharb :)
12:18 francharb And I was in NY this week end
12:19 francharb Do you still live there? jcamins
12:19 jcamins Yes I do.
12:19 jcamins You should've let us know... you could've come to the milonga we went to on Saturday!
12:19 jcamins It was excellent.
12:20 jcamins We're thinking of a vacation in Montreal at the end of November.
12:26 jcamins [off] Bahahaha! "SharePoint is the new tool of the 21st century for information professionals!" <-- the twentieth century called and wants its technology back
12:27 magnuse jcamins: noooo, come to norway!
12:32 tcohen morning
12:32 nengard morning tcohen
12:33 jcamins magnuse: flights to Montreal are a whole lot cheaper.
12:34 nengard norway is better though :) hehe
12:35 magnuse jcamins: and shorter, i bet ;-)
12:36 jcamins magnuse: that too.
12:39 magnuse ...and therefore less damaging to the environment...
13:36 * andreashm waves
13:38 * Kchris waves
13:40 cait hi andreashm :)
13:47 Kchris hi cait :)
13:47 cait hi Kchris
13:48 Kchris I just tested a bug on the sandboxes (#2). I got an email that the sandbox was not ready, but it appears to me that the patch WAS applied. Does this make any sense?
13:50 * andreashm is back again. keep getting logged out today it seems.
13:50 cait oh
13:51 cait *pokes andreashm to see if he is really here now*
13:51 andreashm I'm here!
13:53 tcohen hi cait
13:54 cait hi tcohen :)
13:55 andreashm hi cait, tcohen
13:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:57 andreashm hey mtompset
13:57 wahanui somebody said mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
13:57 mtompset Dev meeting in 3 minutes, right?
13:58 andreashm oh, dev meeting now? nice timing from me - I had forgotten.
13:59 mtompset I think so.
13:59 mtompset wahanui: forget mtompset
13:59 wahanui mtompset: I forgot mtompset
13:59 mtompset mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects.
14:00 mtompset mtompset?
14:00 wahanui rumour has it mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects
14:00 cait i think it's 14th
14:00 cait tomorrow
14:00 wahanui tomorrow is a mystical land where 99% of all human productivity, motivation and achievement is stored.
14:00 andreashm ah, darned
14:01 mtompset I just rechecked... You're right.
14:02 mtompset Greetings, andreashm cait. :)
14:02 mtompset Greetings, amyk
14:02 amyk hello!
14:04 mtompset @karma druthb
14:04 huginn mtompset: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
14:04 * mtompset smiles.
14:05 andreashm anyone know if it is possible to pay fines through a web interface using any of Koha's API:s? (Other than SIP2)
14:05 cait all i can think of is sip2 right now hm.
14:05 cait i think ils-di doesn't include that... did you check?
14:06 andreashm not yet, checked here first. (yes, the lazy option)
14:07 druthb not bad karma for someone who hasn't contributed a patch in gosh-knows-when.
14:07 andreashm @karma andreashm
14:07 huginn andreashm: Karma for "andreashm" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7.
14:08 cait andreashm: i think kyle has written a patch to pay via paypal
14:08 cait but it will be directly in koha if pushed i think
14:10 andreashm We will want to use our current payment system (DIBS). We can fix the calls made to Koha, we just need the functionality set-up (either improve SIP2 or use something else).
14:16 mtompset @karma mtompset
14:16 huginn mtompset: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28.
14:17 mtompset @karma cait
14:17 huginn mtompset: Karma for "cait" has been increased 263 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 263.
14:28 andreashm another question about fines: is it possible to change the description of the various fines somewhere? ("fines", "lost item" etc.)
14:36 cait andreashm: hm in what context?
14:36 cait the display shoudl be mostly translated by now - but not sure what you want to do
14:37 andreashm cait: We would want to change that to show our users when paying fines through our website.
14:40 cait ah
14:40 cait the templates map the fines code to a description
14:41 cait the codes are hardocded into Koha
14:41 andreashm ah, ok
14:41 cait and then translated in the templates
14:42 cait hm not sure what SIP gives back - looking at the accountlines table the accounttype would be what i would use
14:42 cait the description is often not ideal (yet)
14:42 andreashm I guess we will need to change that in our web implementation then.
14:42 cait there are some places in Koha that still write some English terms here - like wehn you do a writeoff
14:42 cait but ideally that shoudl not be done
14:43 andreashm thanks cait!
14:43 andreashm cait++
14:51 drojf the issue_id in the issues table is auto incremented. the issue_id in old_issues is not. why?
14:51 tcohen cait, do u have the rights to add rel_3_22_candidate to bz's list of keywords?
14:51 cait nope
14:52 cait drojf: correct
14:52 cait because we move lines from issues to old_issues
14:52 cait and they keep their id
14:52 cait same for items deleteditems and the other tables where we move lines from here to there
14:52 drojf ah, i see. so it's not really possible to import circulation history from an old system?
14:53 cait you can
14:53 cait but i'd import the circs first
14:53 cait and then you know which numbers to use
14:53 cait or the other way
14:53 wahanui i guess the other way is to pass the array as an arrayref
14:53 cait you import the history and then you can set the PK in issues to the needed value
14:53 tcohen cait: who can?
14:54 cait tcohen: you can migrate circulation history
14:54 tcohen cait: ok
14:54 cait drojf: i think the latter is probably better - circ history first and then make sure the first pk is correct in issues - an example should be in updatedatabase from when we added the pk to reserves/old_reserves
14:54 drojf ok but i have to set a fake id before import than? otherwise i will get an error for duplicate entry 0
14:55 drojf *then
14:55 cait can you generate an id? just 1 ...
14:55 cait and before you do issues, you set the counter like we did when introducing the feature
14:56 drojf sure. just making sure that is the right way
14:56 drojf thanks. cait++
14:57 cait nt sure there is a right way... but i think it could work :)
14:57 drojf not sure if the library wants to keep the old data at all, so maybe that is not needed in the end
14:58 drojf but good i checked before offering to do that :D
14:58 cait have to admit... we normally don't migrate history
14:58 drojf i doubt it is necessary in this case
14:59 cait btw... http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.24 :)
14:59 drojf i have not wrangled much bugs this term :/
15:01 cait why did we translate ordered to Gebunden? :(
15:01 drojf huh? that sounds weird? what context?
15:02 cait order status
15:03 cait and why is the column with the number of ordered items named Pending order?
15:04 * cait got a long list of questions from a library
15:16 * drojf heads home
15:17 drojf later #koha
15:22 reiveune bye
15:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14966: Table header broken at detail.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=390233a10c789a241f948f0f41df92fda3e51052> / Bug 14653: Acq planning export always use default active period <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=852075d48e84c519c6bf0a28d492c1dafd291f0d> / Bug 14653: Acq planning filter always use default active period <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb
15:28 tcohen this is what I call 'side effects' http://snag.gy/O2Hq1.jpg
15:30 cait ugh?
15:41 mtompset tcohen: Nice support company page. It's a very clean look.
15:57 nitz0 Hi people, I am testing to send an email to notice overdue. I read that if I run koha_common from crontab daily directory is enough but nothing happens. How can I test mail from koha?
16:00 cait did you configure the overdue notices?
16:00 cait you want tot ake a look at the triggers in the tools section
16:01 cait also the delay given there needs to match with the due dates of your test items so a overdue notice gets generated
16:06 hector mveron: Hi Marc
16:07 mveron Hi Hector :-)
16:07 * mveron has to run away, invitation to diner.. will be back in a couple of hours...
16:07 hector I was looking that QA doesn't aprove the las change for bug 14956
16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from files opac/*.pl
16:08 mveron Hector: I will look at thi bug later in the evening...
16:08 mveron See you later...
16:09 hector okidoki
16:10 nitz0 cait: Yes I think I did everything right.
16:11 nitz0 It's not possible to force the email?
16:12 Joubu bye #koha
16:20 nitz0 If I send the first notice the script will not send an email again?
16:22 nitz0 Or where I can find the generated overdue notice...?
18:24 mtompset views/temp/index.php
18:24 mtompset Oops. :)
18:25 pianohacker *gasp*
18:25 pianohacker php--
18:28 mtompset Corporate policy. Sorry.
18:29 pianohacker (I'm messing with a PHP CSM for a side project as well, so I can't really throw stones, but it's requisite :) )
18:29 pianohacker *CMS
18:30 pianohacker @later tell ashimema I'm catching up too, what was that in reference to? And would you like a signoff on that?
18:30 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
18:48 * cait waves
18:50 wnickc hi cait
18:51 cait hi wnickc :)
19:01 * magnuse waves
19:07 cait :)
19:11 pianohacker cait: confuse confuse confuse
19:11 cait hmpf
19:11 pianohacker hehehehe
19:14 magnuse confuse all the things!
19:14 cait not the cait things...
19:18 rangi pianohacker: do you want easy baking recipes? I saw on FB
19:18 rangi and morning
19:21 pianohacker rangi: oh, hi :) I'm fine with all recipes, love cooking
19:21 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8rNRmmosmA
19:21 pianohacker rangi: back from vacation?
19:21 rangi for a couple of days more, then off to kohacon on friday
19:22 pianohacker oh yeah that is soon
19:22 pianohacker cool
19:22 pianohacker (YES jaboody dubs, I haven't seen that one)
19:27 * cait waves
19:29 rangi oh cool interesting email from Turkey
19:36 jcamins It would be pretty cool if they integrated Tumer's Zebra changes to 3.x.
19:36 mtj hey #koha
19:36 rangi *nod*
19:37 magnuse yay turkey
19:37 rangi we would have had most of them in if it wasnt for a certain angel investor who thought he was smarter than everyone, be great to get them. And having kohacon next door to turkey next year works out really well!
19:38 mtj so.. is the Turkish Koha a modded verision 2.x ?
19:38 rangi check your inbox
19:41 rangi https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2015-October/043888.html
19:41 mtj hmm, i did - but was a bit confused still
19:41 mtj Project went live on 2014 April. ... It was a derived version of Koha 2.x
19:42 rangi 2.2
19:42 pianohacker how on earth are they doing that many bibs without zebra?
19:42 rangi zebra is in there
19:42 jcamins Tumer had a vastly superior Zebra configuration.
19:42 mtj aaaah, ok
19:42 rangi Tumer Garip did a ton of work on zebra, at kohacon6
19:42 pianohacker oh, gotcha
19:42 * mtj <- mind blown
19:43 rangi @later tell tcohen made the new keyword
19:43 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:43 mtj wow, thats impressive
19:43 cait will be really ineresting to see them moving to 3.20
19:43 cait very very cool project
19:43 cait hope it will be good for them and maybe we can get some of the zebra goodness...?
19:43 rangi yup
19:44 mtj great to hear you are going to kohacon this year, rangi - (i was not sure)
19:45 rangi yep, i think BWS and I might be the only non africans going
19:45 mtj nice brooke too! :0)
19:45 jcamins As long as Brooke is able to get her visa, anyway.
19:45 magnuse isn't paul_p going?
19:46 jcamins She said it hadn't arrived yet.
19:46 rangi naw he got ill
19:46 magnuse oh noes!
20:28 Francesca @wunder wlg
20:28 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
20:57 tcohen1 @later tell Joubu after reading your link, I realized the missing piece is Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath
20:57 huginn tcohen1: The operation succeeded.
20:58 tcohen1 hi
21:04 bag can’t be forgetting the middleware tcohen1
21:05 tcohen1 heh
21:06 * cait waves
21:07 tcohen1 hi cait
21:07 tcohen so I now reveal my real identity
21:07 cait hi tcohen :)
21:07 cait heh
21:07 tcohen rangi: thanks
21:09 tcohen rangi et al: on a packages install (master, preferably kohadevbox:ansible) there is this situation
21:09 tcohen if you trigger an update (like changing the version on the DB)
21:09 tcohen with plack enabled
21:09 rangi right
21:10 tcohen [off] damn, how did I take screenshots on this OS?
21:11 tcohen well, you will notice the form points to /intranet/
21:11 tcohen which is the plack endpoint we have
21:11 tcohen (in the apache config)
21:11 rangi right
21:11 tcohen that means either apache is not sending the right headers
21:12 tcohen http-x-forward-for or something like that
21:12 wizzyrea which os tcohen
21:12 tcohen or we need that other Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath lib (which I didn't make work)
21:12 tcohen wizzyrea: osx
21:13 wizzyrea command-shift-3 for whole screen, command-shift-4 for selectable area
21:13 tcohen thanks wizzyrea
21:13 tcohen !!
21:13 tcohen I wasn't remembering to add ctrl
21:14 tcohen so it goes to memory instead of a file
21:14 tcohen http://snag.gy/6tqy3.jpg
21:15 tcohen so, Joubu started to explore tweaking how we deal with paths in our codebase with the assumption we were doing things wrong (my assumption)
21:15 tcohen but it seems we are not doing things that wrong, and there is a problem with this plack configuration schema
21:15 tcohen any volunteer who likes puzzles is welcome :-D
21:16 rangi you have the reverseproxy stuff in apache eh?
21:16 tcohen welcome, and needed
21:17 rangi https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html#proxypassreverse
21:17 rangi ?
21:17 tcohen rangi: this is it http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/templates/apache-shared-intranet-plack.conf;h=65a34a26d4798593645f2cc28c964be34025adf7;hb=refs/heads/master
21:17 tcohen we have both
21:17 tcohen I think those work for response URLs
21:17 rangi have you tried it with just the reverse, and without the preserve host?
21:17 tcohen hm, I think so
21:19 tcohen rangi: it might be that UDS proxying is just buggy
21:19 tcohen but the mere existence of Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath made me think we need more tweak on our psgi file
21:19 tcohen http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/templates/plack.psgi;h=6da039f1f8b4828dddadacd5cb9cf98ddbe4ff53;hb=refs/heads/master
21:19 rangi yeah could be
21:20 tcohen we definitely need more expert eyes on this
21:22 rangi i wont have a chance until after kohacon
21:22 tcohen ok rangi
21:22 tcohen it was worth trying :-D
21:23 tcohen just more info for the logs: http://search.cpan.org/~bowmanbs/Plack-Middleware-ReverseProxyPath-0.03/lib/Plack/Middleware/ReverseProxyPath.pm
21:23 tcohen the example creates the scenario by setting several headers, which are expected to be set by apache, anyone debugging this should check that, which could be the root cause
21:32 tcohen thanks rangi
21:32 rangi no worries
21:36 eythian hi
21:39 * cait waves
23:15 * Francesca waves