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mtompset |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on August 20, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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dcook |
@wunder syd |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 19.0°C (12:30 PM AEST on August 20, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
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dcook |
Damn. Why am I inside... |
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dcook |
It's actually quite nice looking outside.. |
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BobB_ |
hey dcook: |
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BobB_ |
http://www.bom.gov.au/nsw/forecasts/sydney.shtml |
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BobB_ |
time to start worrying about summer :) |
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dcook |
Worrying? |
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* dcook |
likes summer :) |
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dcook |
My wife is still using a heater, so I'm rather keen for summer to get here if only to lower the electricity bill :p |
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eythian |
elasticsearch is a sponsor of OSDC2015. I wonder if that's good or bad for the chances of my talk being accepted :) |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
I think I might end up coming out just as an attendee |
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dcook |
Plenty of time left for figuring that out I suppose |
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BobB_ |
dcook my suggestion was if its going to be 25 in August then it may not be too flash in February, but time will tell :) |
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dcook |
BobB_: But August is summer and Frebruary is winter! |
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* dcook |
will adjust to the southern hemisphere one day perhaps... |
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dcook |
:p |
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dcook |
February* |
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wizzyrea |
dcook: how long have you been in AU? |
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BobB_ |
lol ; check your orientation dcook :) |
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eythian |
dcook: why would you want a cold christmas? What a waste of beach time. |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: This'll be year 4 :p |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
cold christmas is totally for the birds. |
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wizzyrea |
to eat the birds. |
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dcook |
eythian: That's true, although usually Christmas isn't cold back home. |
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wizzyrea |
turkeys, mostly. |
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dcook |
Snowy - yes |
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wizzyrea |
on the beach. |
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dcook |
We have a lack of beaches back home though |
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wizzyrea |
similar story for kansas. no beach. No mountains. |
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wizzyrea |
and usually, it's just cold as, with no snow. |
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dcook |
:( |
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dcook |
Last Christmas was actually quite nice |
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dcook |
We hosted and it was just such a nice time |
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dcook |
My favourite moment was when my wife, myself, and our friend won Articulate with my wife shouting "cabbage!!!!!" |
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dcook |
We didn't hit the beach until January I think.. |
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BobB_ |
the water's not warm until January |
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BobB_ |
but then it stays warm till May |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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eythian |
you're early, magnuse |
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magnuse |
yup |
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dcook |
Whoa |
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dcook |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
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dcook |
Ah 7:18... guess that's not THAT early :p |
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* dcook |
still thinks magnuse should go back to bed |
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magnuse |
rest of the family is having a bit of a sleep-in, i gotta chip away at the ncip things |
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magnuse |
or rather nncipp |
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rangi |
the code has finally been signed off for production use, so it's fully functional for ILL .. just need to merge/tidy it and keep out regressions now |
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dcook |
rangi++ |
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magnuse |
rangi: talking about the ncipserver? |
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rangi |
yep |
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magnuse |
Dyrcona has done a lot of changes that break things for your koha parts |
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magnuse |
gonna take some work to make it work again |
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magnuse |
i have done some of it, but you'll need to do lots of testing |
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rangi |
yeah, I probably wont merge the changes in the near future |
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rangi |
at least not to be used in production |
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magnuse |
ok |
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rangi |
took literally years |
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rangi |
to get it tested and signed off |
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rangi |
in no hurry to break it :) |
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rangi |
but i do plan to merge the changes at some point, and get it working again |
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magnuse |
ncip! ncip! ncip! |
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eythian |
stop swearing. |
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magnuse |
lulz |
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* cait |
waves |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
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magnuse |
and Viktor |
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Viktor |
kia ora magnuse and cait |
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cait |
hi Viktor and magnuse and everyone |
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eythian |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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liw |
@wunder Heidelberg |
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huginn |
liw: Error: No such location could be found. |
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magnuse |
kia ora liw |
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liw |
magnuse, hi there |
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magnuse |
@wunder Heidelberg, germany |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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liw |
eythian, btw, Debconf16 is in South Africa, about July or August 2016; just so you know, if you want to participate :) |
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eythian |
@wunder EDFM |
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huginn |
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eythian |
hmm, close |
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eythian |
liw: I had not given that any thought, interesting idea though. |
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liw |
eythian, I'm at Deconf15 myself right now, so the thought is close to me |
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magnuse |
huh, why would i suddenly be getting lots of "DBD::mysql::st execute failed: MySQL server has gone away at /home/magnus/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 2159"? this is using ncipserver, while koha on the same server has no problems |
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eythian |
magnuse: ah, that's a known thing |
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eythian |
we don't handle persistant connections well |
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magnuse |
restarting ncipserver seems to have fixed it (for now?) |
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eythian |
yeah, for now |
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eythian |
so, the connection is timing out or something, but that's not being realised. |
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eythian |
we need a real connection pooling thing. |
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magnuse |
but this was ncipserver failing, not koha |
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magnuse |
so not a big worry for koha this time, methinks |
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eythian |
it's a problem for koha under plack |
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cait |
think there are soem bugs right now about the connections |
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cait |
not sure any of them would fix, but probably good if it had more eyes on it :) |
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dcook |
eythian: I've wondered about persistent database connections with plack/mod_perl... |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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Joubu |
morning |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr and Joubu |
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marcelr |
hey Joubu magnuse |
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marcelr |
Joubu: bug 3333 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3333 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , item status for "not for loan" by item type / item is different |
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Joubu |
marcelr: ok, thanks for your reply |
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Joubu |
marcelr: but what does mean "for reference"? |
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marcelr |
well i would interpret it as you can read it in the library but not take it |
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marcelr |
or something like that |
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Joubu |
in this case, why does it work without your patch? |
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marcelr |
the xslt is better than non-xslt, i guess |
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marcelr |
they have gone their own way in time.. |
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marcelr |
we should dismiss the non-xslt |
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marcelr |
it was discussed before |
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Joubu |
yep but, I did not find where the flag "reference" was set |
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Joubu |
select="key('item-by-status', 'reference') |
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Joubu |
Anyway, I will retest the patch today |
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marcelr |
ok, will have a look again for reference |
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marcelr |
Joubu: $status = "reference"; see XSLT.pm sub buildKohaItemsNamespace (why did I forget that :) |
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Joubu |
so obvious... |
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Joubu |
should we remove the itemtype check from this sub? |
| 07:26 |
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Joubu |
hum no, we could introduce a side-effect |
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marcelr |
i think no |
| 07:28 |
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marcelr |
Joubu: why is patch 13324 still holding? anything particular? |
| 07:28 |
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marcelr |
bug 13324 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13324 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The fund values must be based on tax included values |
| 07:28 |
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marcelr |
oh a depends |
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marcelr |
bug 13321 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Tax and prices calculation need to be fixed |
| 07:29 |
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Joubu |
yep, on the "big one" |
| 07:29 |
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Joubu |
should be NQA |
| 07:34 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: do you remember has there been any discussion about having a database table which keeps track of which DB updates have been triggered for the database? |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: now we have atomicupdate which is great, but I am still missing the knowledge on when and if a specific bug upgrade has been done |
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marcelr |
kivilahtio: there has been a lot of discussion |
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marcelr |
and a lot of patches.. |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: because to maintain our own fork, we need to be able to know which of the 200+ patches we have in production have been upgraded |
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marcelr |
kivilahtio: a production machine does not have atomic updates |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: you don't want to know |
| 07:36 |
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marcelr |
the RM moves them to updatedatabase |
| 07:36 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: a preproduction machine has :) |
| 07:37 |
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marcelr |
ok |
| 07:37 |
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Joubu |
(bug 7167) |
| 07:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED WONTFIX, updatedatabase improvements |
| 07:37 |
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marcelr |
kivilahtio: the most simple design has been implemented; i once wrote something additional too that did not make it |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: Joubu: I am sorry for that |
| 07:38 |
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marcelr |
if a db rev can be executed more than once without blowing up Koha, there is no problem :) |
| 07:39 |
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marcelr |
just ignoring warnings .. |
| 07:39 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: it can but the problem is that repeatedly running updatedatabase.pl causes a heeluva lot of unnecessary warnings |
| 07:39 |
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marcelr |
so true |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: also due to the nature of how we deal with DBIx we cannot use DBIx introspection features before we have done the DB modifications |
| 07:39 |
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kivilahtio |
I have had a LOT of trouble with DBIx |
| 07:39 |
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kivilahtio |
a LOT |
| 07:39 |
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marcelr |
DBIx is another pain dossier |
| 07:40 |
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kivilahtio |
I feel like development times are down to 1/4 because of it |
| 07:40 |
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marcelr |
we only implemented it a little bit.. |
| 07:40 |
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kivilahtio |
especially since the DB structure of Koha in Serials doesn't have strinf foreign relations and DBIx needs them |
| 07:40 |
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marcelr |
we are doing half work and run after something else again.. |
| 07:41 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: I was thinking of making Koha::Object compatible from DBI, thus alleviating this pain a lot |
| 07:41 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: yes |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: DBIx and Koha::Object have very strong issues |
| 07:41 |
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marcelr |
sounds good |
| 07:42 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: Especially when it comes to joins |
| 07:42 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: They are really hacky |
| 07:42 |
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marcelr |
yeah |
| 07:42 |
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Joubu |
Are you always rambling? |
| 07:42 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: for some reason I cannot get deep join going through a chain of subscription => {serial => { serialitems => 'items'}} |
| 07:42 |
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kivilahtio |
to work |
| 07:43 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I will give you a DBIx challenge :) |
| 07:43 |
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kivilahtio |
one moment |
| 07:43 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: I don't want it |
| 07:43 |
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Joubu |
The first thing to do is to rewrite dirty parts |
| 07:43 |
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Joubu |
if you start with adding complexity on top of the existing dirt, it cannot work |
| 07:44 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: well maybe the patterns that are about to be included to master should actually be used to implement something moderately complex first? |
| 07:46 |
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Joubu |
I just meant that the serial/subscription module is a mess, and also the table structures |
| 07:46 |
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Joubu |
so it sounds normal to have issue if you try complex stuffs with DBIC in this area :) |
| 07:47 |
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Joubu |
s/issue/issues/ ;) |
| 07:47 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I asked few days ago from our RM that would he sign off my rewrite of the serials module :) |
| 07:47 |
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kivilahtio |
he said no |
| 07:47 |
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kivilahtio |
:) |
| 07:47 |
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kivilahtio |
but I don't have to do do that anyway |
| 07:47 |
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Joubu |
bug#? |
| 07:48 |
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marcelr |
kivilahtio: the RM will probably not sign off on more patches too; he is last in the queue |
| 07:48 |
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Joubu |
ok you didn't write it yet |
| 07:49 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: I think kivilahtio is just trying to find testers :) It seems they are quite busy atm... |
| 07:49 |
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marcelr |
there is not much signoff activity in august.. |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: :) |
| 07:50 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: SELECT serialseq, notforloan, onloan FROM subscription su LEFT JOIN serial s ON su.subscriptionid = s.subscriptionid LEFT JOIN serialitems si ON si.serialid = s.serialid LEFT JOIN items i ON i.itemnumber = si.itemnumber WHERE su.branchcode = 'CPL' AND su.biblionumber = 2123 ORDER BY serialseq DESC LIMIT 5; |
| 07:50 |
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marcelr |
Joubu: bug 11759 does not apply but if i read the report, you will not spend more time on it |
| 07:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11759 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch checkout |
| 07:51 |
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Joubu |
will try |
| 07:51 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: will try :) |
| 07:52 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: I would say it depends on your interest in the patch, is it to switch to PQA/FQA or does not apply? |
| 07:52 |
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Joubu |
or let it to SO if I rebase it |
| 07:53 |
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marcelr |
if it does not apply, i do not start QA |
| 07:53 |
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marcelr |
i did not look further |
| 07:53 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: do you remember the bugnumber of your atomicupdate improvement? |
| 07:53 |
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marcelr |
search for sandbox |
| 07:53 |
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marcelr |
and look at obsolete patches |
| 07:53 |
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kivilahtio |
:) |
| 07:54 |
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marcelr |
it was pushed in a simplified way |
| 07:54 |
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marcelr |
but bug 7167 even had a table |
| 07:54 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED WONTFIX, updatedatabase improvements |
| 07:54 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: I was planning to have a table which would automatically infer the bug number/ID from the filename and the output of the upgrade script |
| 07:55 |
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kivilahtio |
so you dont need a YAML to map what needs doing |
| 07:55 |
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marcelr |
kivilahtio: there is always room for improvements |
| 07:55 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: that should be a rapid development |
| 07:56 |
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marcelr |
just open up a new report :) |
| 07:56 |
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kivilahtio |
I like your style :) |
| 07:57 |
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marcelr |
kivilahtio: look at bug 13068 in obsolete patches |
| 07:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox |
| 07:57 |
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kivilahtio |
after that I implement a backwards compatibility layer for Koha::Object, totally pulling the carpet from the intent of it ;) |
| 07:58 |
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marcelr |
like this one: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=32300 |
| 07:58 |
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marcelr |
could you also add PostgreSQL support kivilahtio LOL |
| 07:59 |
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kivilahtio |
:) |
| 07:59 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: do you need it? |
| 07:59 |
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marcelr |
no it is just such a topic.. |
| 07:59 |
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kivilahtio |
Hmm, looking at Bug 13893, the atomicupdates are always executed when updatedatabase.pl is ran? |
| 07:59 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add ability to execute perl scripts in atomicupdates |
| 07:59 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: you should know since you was part of it |
| 08:00 |
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marcelr |
yes my variant did not do that see bug 13068 |
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marcelr |
i also wanted to prevent rerunning it when backporting.. |
| 08:02 |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: that is against the original design idea of atomicupdate |
| 08:02 |
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marcelr |
well it was obsoleted.. |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: the original design idea was obsoleted? |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: or your bug was obsoleted? |
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marcelr |
no my patch |
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marcelr |
original_design_ideas++ |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: I wonder why the atomicupdate dile extension needs to be .perl |
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marcelr |
i favor .pl too |
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kivilahtio |
I guess it makes it easier to distinguish them with find and grep, but then why .sql is not .sqlang for ex |
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marcelr |
it is just perl code so pl would be fine |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: that one subroutine dealing with atomicupdates has so many issues in it. I mean how many issues can you have in 10 lines of code :) |
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marcelr |
but .perl should be some perl snippet |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: I think the idea was that they are perl snippets |
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marcelr |
Joubu: bug 11625 with a counter patch ;) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Default to logged in library for circ rules and notices & slips |
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marcelr |
QAing can be so nice |
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marcelr |
This script is a house of cards |
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kivilahtio |
marcelr: do you like failing QA a lot? |
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Joubu |
yes, that's why I don't like the first patchset, too complex to be sure no regression will be introduced |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: how about writing regression tests? |
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cait |
marcelr++ thx for the library tour :) |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: it's a perl script, we should rewrite completely the script |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: we have plenty of rewrite bugs lying around which rewrite this and that, none has regression tests |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: ? which ones? |
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Joubu |
all the ones I write have tests |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: really?!?! |
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Joubu |
I think so :) |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: Like... Selenium... tests? |
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Joubu |
no |
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Joubu |
I have tried, nobody cares |
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Joubu |
I stopped |
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kivilahtio |
well we just started |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: And have endured a lot to build the infrastructure to make it much much more easier |
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kivilahtio |
Bug 14536 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14536 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , PageObject-pattern base implementation |
| 08:17 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: but really, I don't want to write selenium test for old scripts, they have to be rewrite, with tests |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: they work well in most cases. Sometimes you need to add some id-attributes to target specific action elements |
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kivilahtio |
also PageObject-Pattern changes the way you think of Selenium tests. If you are not familiar with it I recommend you read about it |
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kivilahtio |
The way the community started to write Selenium tests was rather crude |
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kivilahtio |
and very prone to gui changes breaking everything everywhere |
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Joubu |
Joonas around? |
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kivilahtio |
this pattern fixes it |
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kivilahtio |
atleast to the degree humanly possible :) |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: "Joonas Kylmälä" is a Finnish name? |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: yes |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: his nick is putti |
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Joubu |
Is he one of your collegue? |
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kivilahtio |
he is sitting right next to me |
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kivilahtio |
why? |
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Joubu |
cool :) |
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putti |
what about me |
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Joubu |
putti: Hello! |
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Joubu |
putti: you forgot to change the bug status for bug 14696 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14696 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , useless use of String::Random in catalogue/search.pl |
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Joubu |
and thanks for your signoffs btw ;) |
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kivilahtio |
putti: they are much appreciated |
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putti |
Joubu, I wasn't sure what's the deal with when to change the status: after one or two sign-offs. |
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Joubu |
putti: the rule is one |
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Joubu |
especially when it's for small patches |
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putti |
alright |
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Joubu |
can be 2 if it's a new big ft/enh |
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marcelr |
putti++ |
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putti |
marcelr, ++? |
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marcelr |
putti: your balance increased with one |
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putti |
wow ! |
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marcelr |
:) |
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Joubu |
@karma putti |
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huginn |
Joubu: Karma for "putti" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
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Joubu |
putti++ :) |
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marcelr |
even better |
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wahanui |
even better is, like, what oleonard said just after that |
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marcelr |
@later khall please look at bug 11625 |
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huginn |
marcelr: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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marcelr |
@later tell khall please look at bug 11625 |
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huginn |
marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
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marcelr |
better |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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marcelr |
thx Joubu++ # 3333 |
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Joubu |
Jul: did you plan to update the hea website with the new commits? |
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Jul |
Joubu, We try it yesterday but there is some bugs to correct before ;) |
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Joubu |
Jul: ok, let us know when it's done! |
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Joubu |
@later tell rangi Do you think it is easy to add the signoffer info on a bug report? It would be the last NSO=>SO change which is not the assignee. |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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marcelr |
If the user is sophisticated enough to specify an index, turn off field weighting, stemming, and stopword handling |
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marcelr |
Joubu around |
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Joubu |
marcelr: yep |
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marcelr |
batch checkouts |
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marcelr |
if i am adding staff as a category |
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marcelr |
i do not get the right form |
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marcelr |
still normal checkout |
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Joubu |
it should be a category type |
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marcelr |
ok |
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Joubu |
the ones defined in admin/categories.pl |
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marcelr |
have to look better :) |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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marcelr |
hola tcohen |
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tcohen |
Hoi marcelr |
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marcelr |
Joubu: the categorycode S was fine; I just some looked over the Batch tab at the left side |
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Joubu |
marcelr: yes sorry, it's the category code, the one defined in admin/cat :) |
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marcelr |
just did not see the tab |
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Joubu |
actually S is not a good choice, there is a categorycode S and a category_type S |
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marcelr |
just testing |
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putti |
Has anyone idea of what kind of files we can stage here: cgi-bin/koha/tools/stage-marc-import.pl |
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Joubu |
a marc records file |
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Joubu |
can be get using the export button on biblio detail page |
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putti |
but there is 10 different types of MARC files. |
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Joubu |
or using the export tool tools/export.pl |
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Joubu |
save as MARC utf8 should be fine |
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putti |
utf-8, not utf-8 standard? |
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Joubu |
not sure to know the difference... |
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putti |
with utf-8 it worked good, but with the standard everything died, if I remember right.. |
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putti |
I think we should change the script to only accept the right type of MARC file. Joubu, do you agree? |
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Joubu |
"everything died" needs to be defined :) |
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xarragon |
Nuked from orbit? |
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putti |
the fields values didn't come with the staging |
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putti |
ah, hard to explain because I don't even know what I'm trying to fix here :D |
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putti |
Please, someone, tell me which type(s) of files are allowed to stage in stage-marc-import.pl script. I tried to look every manual entry but they just say "import a MARC file". |
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marcelr |
Joubu: if bug 14544 gets signed, i will be interested in looking further.. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves |
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Joubu |
thanks marcelr! |
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Joubu |
putti: both worked for me |
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Joubu |
But the .marcstd file does not contain the item info |
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putti |
Ok. That's why there was problem with the .marcstd |
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Joubu |
putti: note the records are certainly imported using the default framework |
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Joubu |
and thanks again marcelr for the batch checkout :) |
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putti |
stage-marc-import.pl works fine, but for example, manage-marc-import.pl, doesn't know what type of file it's handling and it causes anomalies. |
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putti |
Either manage-marc-import.pl need to be fixed to handle all the different types of MARC or stage-marc-import.pl to accept only one type of MARC |
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Joubu |
pianohacker: around? |
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grharry |
Hello There! I am now on Debian Jessie and Koha 3.20.02! My LOGS are Full of the "CGI:error" warning ... "CGI::param called in list context from package main line 448, this can lead to vulnerabilities." !!! :P Is there a way to get rid of this ?? |
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tcohen |
grharry: nope |
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Joubu |
which scripts? |
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Joubu |
see bug 14121 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14121 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Silence warnings t/db_dependent/Auth_with_cas.t |
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grharry |
:-/ |
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xarragon |
Is there an easy way to test overdue messages? |
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xarragon |
Ah, wait maybe I can set a due date that has passed when loading? |
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xarragon |
Last time I just changed it with mysql. |
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Joubu |
xarragon: set a due date should work |
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xarragon |
Yeah it just needed a confirmation. |
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xarragon |
I tried to get koa to email me by running the overdue_notice.pl script but so far no luck |
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xarragon |
Not sure if it accepts local mail |
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pianohacker |
Joubu: I am now :) |
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Joubu |
pianohacker: I was waiting for an answer on a bug, don't remember which one... |
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Joubu |
ha, maybe the column stuff on the items table |
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pianohacker |
oh, right, lemme respond to that |
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pianohacker |
Joubu: there you go. |
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Joubu |
thx |
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Joubu |
pianohacker: for instance stocknumber is not mapped by default, but can be mapped |
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pianohacker |
hrm, decent point. |
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pianohacker |
Joubu: based on my patch, and your work with the datatables stuff, even if I throw in all those columns it will only show the ones that are actually visible in the "show/hide columns" menu, and in the correct order, right? |
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Joubu |
I think so, yes |
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Joubu |
that's the point, I think it's better to show all columns |
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pianohacker |
agreed |
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Joubu |
and display them either the order on admin/koha2marclinks.pl either the DB order |
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Joubu |
DB order ie. kohastructure.sql |
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pianohacker |
yeah, to be consistent with something |
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pianohacker |
Joubu: all right, have that on my todo list. |
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pianohacker |
going dark for the day, bye all! |
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Joubu |
++ |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14181: MARC21 773 -- Display when ind1 = 0 or blank <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64b810b4038e6d70e> / Bug 14484: warns when changing patron pw <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8c157719dcf33a040> / Bug 14646: Koha::RecordProcessor should accept more than one filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh |
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DKD |
:) |
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DKD |
CHEERS |
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DKD |
WINDOWS RULES |
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Topic for #koha is now #koha Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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Dyrcona |
What a lamer. |
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liw |
it hit two other channels I'm on; lamer seems right |
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wnickc |
but he was totally 733t |
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liw |
very leet. such skillz. much hacker. |
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Dyrcona |
he |
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Dyrcona |
heh |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu not sure what you mean, add the info where? |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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* magnus_afk |
waves at rangi then falls asleep |
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Hello |
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rangi are you around? |
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Francesca |
Hey rangi just letting you know I might not get in today |
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Francesca |
my mac has crashed and won't boot up so I'm going to have it looked at. |
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rangi |
ahh bummer |
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rangi |
im in a training thingy all day anyway |
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ok. Theres a chance I might get in late afternoon but thats only if we can get the computer running again |
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* dac |
wonders what Debian will do when they run out of Toy Story characters... |
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wizzyrea |
on to Nemo! |
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wizzyrea |
Debian Nemo has a nice ring to it. |
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wizzyrea |
Debian Dory. |
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wizzyrea |
Debian Marlin. |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
I like |
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* wizzyrea |
plays spot the parent |
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dcook |
:P |
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bag |
HA - ginny will love Nemo |
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dcook |
I've never actually seen Finding Nemo... it's like the one kids movie I haven't seen |
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bag |
it’s fun - like all of them |
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bag |
the turtles are the best part IMO |
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wizzyrea |
it is fun |
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wizzyrea |
It's also not super sonically dense |
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bag |
they are sort of like hippy stoners |
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wizzyrea |
so it doesn't drive you insane watching it over and over |
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wizzyrea |
wall-e is good for that too |
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wizzyrea |
actually wall-e would make more sense for debian releases |
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wizzyrea |
debian eve - that sounds nice. |
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dcook |
hehe |
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bag |
that would be really cool |
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bag |
but they’d have to change the start up noise for wall-e |
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wizzyrea |
they hyphenated names are potentially problematic :P |
| 23:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
so scratch that :) |
| 23:47 |
|
bag |
hmm I’m flying in the morning - I think I will download that movie for the plane - thanks wizzyrea |
| 23:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
wall-e is awesome. |
| 23:47 |
|
bag |
totally |
| 23:48 |
|
bag |
trea’s back has been hurting the last week or so - he’s had to sit a few games :( |
| 23:48 |
|
bag |
get better buddy |
| 23:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hscu7cc1_2Y |
| 23:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
^ that's the end credits of wall-e, for those of you uninitiated |
| 23:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
possibly the best end credits ever. |
| 23:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's a whole movie in itself. |
| 23:50 |
|
dcook |
Mmm I do love the end credits |
| 23:50 |
|
bag |
bbias |
| 23:50 |
|
dcook |
I think I watched that on my old netbook before it got stolen.. |
| 23:50 |
|
dcook |
I remember the end credits were a bit jerky, so I was trying to find a way of making VLC run better on the low end hardware.. |
| 23:51 |
|
dcook |
Fortunately someone stole the computer and that led to me buying a better one that has no problem with video now :D |
| 23:53 |
|
bag |
sorry to hear about the netbook - some people man… why do that? |
| 23:53 |
|
bag |
doesn’t make sense to me |
| 23:53 |
|
* dcook |
shrugs |
| 23:53 |
|
dcook |
I can think of a few reasons, but it does suck :/ |
| 23:54 |
|
bag |
pros and cons though :) |
| 23:54 |
|
dcook |
Felt a little bit bad that the stuff they stole wasn't worth much, so sort of a waste of their time |
| 23:54 |
|
dcook |
Of course, they absolutely trashed the place, so hard to feel too bad for them :p |
| 23:54 |
|
bag |
pros and cons |
| 23:54 |
|
bag |
HA |
| 23:54 |
|
dcook |
haha |
| 23:54 |
|
dcook |
Yeah I just got that |
| 23:55 |
|
bag |
heya trea - happy birthday man! |
| 23:55 |
|
* dcook |
was waiting for the bday message |
| 23:55 |
|
bag |
:D happy birthday to you too dcook |
| 23:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
smh |
| 23:55 |
|
dcook |
bag: I have been thinking about celebrating my bday at a different time of year |
| 23:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
half birthdays :) |
| 23:55 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: Alas, that's around Christmas :/ |
| 23:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
hm, my halfbirthday is close to spud's |
| 23:56 |
|
dcook |
Maybe February would be good.. |
| 23:56 |
|
bag |
when is your birthday dcook ? |
