IRC log for #koha, 2015-08-19

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00:13 rangi @later tell joubu ah yes it had stopped, fixed now
00:13 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
00:37 Francesca @wunder wlg
00:37 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
01:18 eythian[…]e-room-of-manuals
01:44 wizzyrea kohadevbox
01:44 wahanui i think kohadevbox is at
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02:28 dcook @wunder syd
02:28 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 16.0°C (12:00 PM AEST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
02:29 dcook eythian: Oh man...
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02:57 rangi @marc 852
02:57 huginn rangi: Identifies the organization holding the item or from which it is available. May also contain detailed information about how to locate the item in a collection. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,s,t,u,x,z,2,3,6,8]
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03:39 dcook OFTC sure seems a bit unstable lately?
03:39 eythian could be, or it could be some part of the internet
03:40 dcook Hmm, I suppose it does tend to be the Americans?
03:40 cdickinson at least that netsplit was just a small one
03:40 cdickinson lol
03:52 dcook On an unrelated note, here's hoping that REST API is coming along...
03:53 dcook I wonder if anyone is still using the ILS-DI API...
03:59 dcook So surprised to see this on the ILS-DI page -> "Search (Use SRU instead)"
04:00 dcook Well, maybe not super surprised
04:00 dcook I suppose everything in a MARC record should be public except for whatever fields/subfields are supposed to be private
04:01 dcook Although 541 is the only field I can think of with indicators for privacy...
04:01 * dcook loves MARC's consistency
04:02 dcook marc?
04:02 wahanui
04:02 dcook marc history?
04:02 wahanui marc history is
04:02 dcook Hmm seems like a few
04:03 dcook 541, 542, 561, 583
04:03 dcook[…]hic/ecbdlist.html
04:03 dcook marc list?
04:03 dcook marc list is[…]hic/ecbdlist.html
04:03 dcook marc list?
04:03 wahanui it has been said that marc list is[…]hic/ecbdlist.html
04:03 dcook forget marc list
04:03 wahanui dcook: I forgot marc list
04:03 dcook marc bib list is[…]hic/ecbdlist.html
04:03 dcook marc bib list?
04:03 wahanui marc bib list is[…]hic/ecbdlist.html
04:04 dcook I suppose we don't respect those indicators but then we have the frameworks...
04:04 dcook But then there's all the OPAC system preferences for hiding and suppressing stuff and arggh...
04:05 rangi .00000001% of the library workers would even know what those indicators are
04:05 rangi i don't think we can ever trust that indicators are filled in correctly
04:06 dcook Truuue that
04:06 wizzyrea all of that.
04:06 rangi people forget that the places people think of as libraries (publics and academics) are the minority
04:06 rangi and almost everyone is not a trained cataloguer
04:06 dcook ?
04:06 rangi specials and corporates
04:06 rangi far outnumber
04:06 dcook Even trained cataloguers don't know heaps of things about MARC
04:06 rangi publics and academic libraries
04:07 dcook Yeah, I suppose only our academic libraries have pointed out the indicator privacy thing
04:07 dcook The special/corporate libraries are more interested in the APIs I think
04:07 dcook s/The/Our/
04:08 dcook And I suppose if they're using the APIs, they have their own ideas about what should be shown and not shown
04:08 dcook And they can use the 942$whatever in terms of record suppression
04:09 dcook Aside: I get why GetAvailability wasn't finished for the bib-level... GetRecords works quite well and can be used hand in hand with GetAvailability at the item-level... beauty
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04:26 dcook Actually, I just remembered that we don't respect the framework visibility either except in the editor and maybe the MARC pages...
04:26 dcook Although I suppose mtompset is working on that
04:26 wizzyrea i thought mtompset was working on that
04:26 wizzyrea lol
04:26 wizzyrea yes.
04:26 wizzyrea he is.
04:27 * Francesca waves
04:27 dcook I didn't like his initial implementation, so I did a quick version for us locally for the OPAC, but hopefully something comes of that
04:27 dcook I think tcohen was also working on that...
04:27 dcook yo Francesca
04:27 Francesca hey dcook :)
04:27 * dcook liked tcohen's idea much better
04:27 Francesca hows aussie?
04:27 dcook Mmm not bad
04:27 dcook Spent ages this morning locating and purchasing cat food
04:28 Francesca hahahahaha I thought you weren't a cat person?
04:28 dcook Hehe. I'm not :p
04:28 dcook But we don't have a car and cat food is heavy, so I lug it around
04:29 dcook One of them also whines if he can't sleep on my feet
04:29 dcook That reminds me of an article I saw somewhere...
04:29 Francesca loool
04:29 Francesca my cats complain about everything
04:29 dcook[…]_t_like_them.html
04:30 dcook Not that I hate cats
04:30 Francesca hahahaha thats brilliant
04:31 Francesca glad to hear it
04:31 Francesca one of mine is currently watching me write an essay
04:31 Francesca on cats
04:31 dcook wizzyrea: It was cool seeing you in that video!
04:32 wizzyrea :)
04:32 dcook Although I hate to laugh about cjh... I still haven't ever heard him speak :p
04:32 dcook have to laugh*
04:32 wizzyrea pity I hadn't had a haircut
04:32 dcook Story of my life O_O
04:32 * dcook should add that caption to every family photo ever
04:32 dcook My mum is amazing at taking bad photos of her children :p
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04:33 dcook On an unrelated topic, wizzyrea, did you recently comment on a bug relating to the RSS format of opac-search?
04:33 * dcook swears he's seen that recently..
04:33 wizzyrea erm
04:33 wizzyrea I don't think so?
04:33 dcook[…]_bug.cgi?id=14524
04:33 huginn Bug 14524: major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Result list RSS feed broken
04:33 dcook Katrin I think
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04:34 dcook Usually if I need to find something, either you or cait has already found it :p
04:34 wizzyrea well I did, but only to say that it would be in 3.18.09 :P
04:34 dcook Hmm I don't think that's the problem I may or may not have though..
04:35 dcook It looks really funny in my dev tools... like things aren't nested correctly..
04:35 dcook I suppose I could use the RSS reader that eythian hosts...
04:35 wizzyrea ironically I'm wearing that exact shirt/sweater combo today
04:35 wizzyrea but my hair is shorter :P
04:36 dcook :p
04:36 wizzyrea probably ought to go fetch my child.
04:36 dcook Hmm they do require that..
04:36 dcook Such a different way I grew up
04:36 dcook I remember there was one kid who got picked up by their parents. We all thought they were weird.
04:37 dcook Of course, there were about 500 people in the town, and the town wasn't that wide
04:39 dcook Hmm RSS reader parsed it OK...
04:39 dcook Iirc, elements inspectors don't cope well with empty elements...
04:42 dcook Yarp... looks like that might be the case
04:42 dcook Chrome is not a fan of "<opensearch:Query role="request" searchTerms="" startPage="" />"
04:43 dcook Or the self-closed "atom" element..
04:43 dcook I suppose because it's thinking of it as HTML and it's all "AHHHHHH"
04:52 Francesca lol
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06:25 * magnuse waves
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06:27 magnuse @later tell Kchris not sure i understand you question correctly. installing another language should just be "sudo koha-translate --install <langcode>"
06:27 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
06:27 magnuse kia ora Viktor
06:39 Viktor kia ora magnuse
06:42 Viktor Btw xarragon uploaded the patch for bug 14367 yesterday. It's one that I look forward to running myself :)
06:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14367 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , History for MARC records. Roll back changes on a timeline or per field.
06:44 Viktor And bumby started this week and warmed up with a patch for bug 14675
06:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14675 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin, Needs Signoff , Updating personal details on OPAC - request sent even if no changes are made
06:50 magnuse Viktor: should 14367 be "needs signoff", or isn't it ready yet?
06:51 Viktor I think needs signoff. But I'll check. Not at the office currently :)
06:52 Viktor I got it as a patch a while ago but find it easier to pull from Bugzilla so I asked him to upload it :)
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06:56 Joubu hello
06:56 Joubu rangi: do you know why it had stopped?
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07:03 magnuse kia ora cait
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07:03 drojf morning #koha
07:03 magnuse moin drojf
07:03 drojf hei magnuse
07:03 * cait waves
07:04 cait breakfast time  - mini pancakes!
07:04 * Francesca waves at everyone
07:04 Francesca yuuuum
07:04 drojf hi cait. shouldn't you be vacaiting? ;)
07:04 drojf heh
07:05 drojf hi Francesca
07:06 Francesca heya!
07:09 magnuse ooh, pancakes!
07:09 wahanui pancakes are always good
07:10 Francesca for once I actually agree with wahanui
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08:05 drojf are there any koha-related reasons not to use debian jessie these days? i still run wheezy everywhere, i wonder what other people do
08:21 Joubu drojf: It depends on the version you are using
08:21 Joubu I think > 3.18.x is Jessie compatible
08:22 Joubu see bug 14106 for instance
08:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14106 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-conf paths to zebra libraries are wrong in jessie
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08:54 Viktor Does anyone else think that the news looks like a bunch of scattered postits?
08:55 Viktor I like it more as we did here to keep it together in a common newsarea. But unshure if that's just personal taste or if a patch would be motivated.
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09:15 drojf thanks Joubu
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11:07 magnuse @wunder boo
11:07 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 21.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
11:07 magnuse and no wind!
11:10 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
11:10 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 21.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
11:11 drojf you win (no clouds) ;)
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11:17 magnuse woohoo!
11:17 magnuse bug 14100 sounds pretty awesome!
11:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14100 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Generic solution for language overlay
11:21 Joubu thanks for the advertisement magnuse :)
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11:21 magnuse thanks for the great work Joubu :-)
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11:24 bumby m
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11:55 irma Hi all :-)
11:56 irma I am preparing a presentation and just checked
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11:57 Joubu whaou 132 lib!
11:57 irma If 132 participating libraries have a total of 9.1 Million biblios ... what do you think is the number of Koha powered libraries globally?
11:59 irma If it were 7000 libraries that would be approx 453 million biblio records !
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12:00 BobB_ so what is the best estimate of the number of Koha libraries world wide today?
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12:02 Joubu I think that nobody knows...
12:03 irma Joubu I think you are right, nobody knows  ...
12:04 Joubu more than 132 :p
12:04 magnuse libwebcats has 2479 then there is ~1000 in argentina + ~1000 in turkey
12:05 magnuse that gives a very minimum figure
12:05 irma and in the Philipines
12:05 Joubu + india
12:05 magnuse we know it is more than 4500
12:05 magnuse yup
12:06 irma This is my talk : "Leveraging Collaborating Communities to Expand Collections’ Visibility,
12:06 irma Discovery and Linking."
12:07 BobB_ does anyone have a link to zeno tajoli's work on federated searching?
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12:10 marcelr hi #koha
12:12 irma hi marcelr
12:12 marcelr :)
12:20 barton jcamins: I ran across[…]ng_Zebra_indexing last night -- this includes an IRC discussion that you had with hdl it's down in the "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here" section -- um... who knows when ;-) ... it's not clear to me whether that discussion is entirely GRS-1, or whether the information there is still relevant. ... I think that the 'all,any' index still exists, but I've never been clear on h
12:21 barton morning druthb :-)
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12:24 tcohen morning
12:24 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:24 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.6°C (9:20 AM ART on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
12:25 Joubu tcohen: whatch though the window!
12:25 tcohen I was presuming :-D
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12:28 tcohen hi Joubu
12:29 Joubu ¡Buenos dias tcohen!
12:29 tcohen ¡Bonjour, Joubu!
12:30 tcohen i'm trying to figure what's going on with Contract.t
12:31 tcohen i think it is the tests failing due to the dates that were chosen on writing them
12:31 tcohen but I'm not used to how acqs work
12:32 tcohen oh
12:32 jcamins barton: A) your message was cut off, and B) "all any" is a command in GRS-1, so it doesn't apply to DOM.
12:32 Joubu 76     contractenddate     => '2015-07-31',
12:32 Joubu I suspect it fails since this date :)
12:33 Joubu confirmed, it passes if I set the contractenddate to 2015-08-31
12:34 tcohen yeah, that was my guess too, was trying to figure how to generate a date with our tools
12:34 tcohen jcamins: good morning
12:34 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
12:36 jcamins Good morning.
12:36 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
12:36 BobB_ wahanui never sleeps
12:36 wahanui BobB_: excuse me?
12:36 barton jcamins: isn't there an 'any' index in DOM? or is it 'any,any'? I know that I've seen something like it.
12:37 jcamins barton: sure, there's an any index, but that has nothing to do with "all any"
12:38 barton ah... could we reomove that discussion from the wiki then? (it's there in history, of course)
12:38 jcamins I don't care.
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12:58 tcohen Joubu: will you provide a counter-patch for updatedatabase on bug 14598?
12:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14598 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , itemtype is not set on statistics by C4::Circulation::AddReturn
13:00 Joubu tcohen: I haven't planned to do it
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13:03 tcohen Joubu: what would you do instead of what I did?
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13:05 Joubu I'd write the SQL queries
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13:14 Shane-S is there a keyboard shortcut to get back to the circulation checkout box versus mouse my case slow and shift-tab takes forever too
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13:25 magnuse Shane-S: Alt+u?
13:26 Shane-S sweet thanks, does that return to the page default focus, or is that html coded?
13:27 magnuse there is some javascript trickery behind it
13:29 magnuse Shane-S: http://translate.koha-communit[…]op/#keyboardshort
13:34 wnickc those are awesome, I will begin sharing them far and wide
13:34 nengard they've been in the manual for years and years and years ... just saying wnickc
13:37 wnickc nengard: yeah, I suspected as much
13:37 wnickc but I have never seen anyone use them
13:39 nengard grumble grumble
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13:40 wnickc I did have an infant ith me at my last training, so easily my miss ;-)
13:41 wnickc and is always good to read the friendly manual
13:48 nengard wnickc hehe - well I guess I have to forgive you then :)
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14:26 xarragon Hmm, when I try out patches that has atomic upgrades as .pl files rather than .sql, do I just execute them manually?
14:27 marcelr xarragon: run the webinstaller upgrade
14:28 marcelr xarragon: i look at updatedatabase now, and see that it still only runs .perl files (not .pl files)
14:30 xarragon marcelr: Ok, thanks. I just saw that there is a second patch that actually renames it to .perl rather than .pl.
14:30 marcelr yeah i remember discussing this with kyle
14:30 marcelr i think we should add .pl
14:30 marcelr it is confusing
14:31 xarragon Any special kind of upgrades that needs to be perl scripts rather than plain SQL? In this case it is 13624, which replaces 2 columns in a table with a foreign key to another table.
14:32 xarragon Havn't really tried that particular stunt myself yet..
14:36 xarragon Love how opening the manual web page takes nonstop loading for more than a minute
14:37 xarragon holy hell the pdfd is 40 megs.. no wonder
14:50 Joubu[…]o/1?ref_src=twsrc
14:50 Joubu "Today an item has been returned with a delay of 28yearsé
14:50 Joubu "
14:51 Joubu "This book should be returned before the last date", and the last date is June 13, 1987
14:51 marcelr Joubu: large fine?
14:51 Joubu marcelr: no! Only 1FF (French Franc, before Euro)
14:52 Joubu which is something like 1/6€ :)
14:52 marcelr :)
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15:47 Shane-S_ i have an item i fixed it has a status Withdrawn i want to change it back to available but Withdrawn Status box for the item is to I change it back?
15:54 pianohacker Shane-S_: as in, there's no options in the dropdown?
16:00 Shane-S_ No, the drop down box is empty.
16:01 Shane-S_ Found item, clicked Edit, then 0-Withdrawn status is followed by a small empty white box, no options.
16:09 pianohacker Shane-S_: is your authorized value correctly set up?
16:12 Shane-S_ says no values set for asort1
16:14 Shane-S_ I only have values set for damaged in the list there...withdrawn isn't an option in the authorities drop down
16:16 Shane-S_ nm i found restore button on a different items view
16:34 Joubu see you #koha
16:34 bag later Joubu
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19:10 * wajasu testing ipv6 connectivity
19:11 pianohacker wajasu_: hello from ipv6 as well :)
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19:22 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
19:24 mtompset wnickc:  You here?
19:24 wnickc I am
19:24 mtompset How might I patch your scripts? :)
19:24 mtompset Logic in bug 10625 might be useful in your scripts.
19:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10625 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Inventory/Stocktaking tool cannot handle windows file uploads
19:25 wnickc hmm...first tiem using github here
19:26 wnickc can I not just make it a free for all?
19:26 mtompset I think I have github somewhere... Let me check...
19:28 wnickc mtompset: you, or someone with your username, are now a collaborator
19:29 mtompset I forked yours. :)
19:29 mtompset So that I can send you a pull request. :)
19:31 wnickc cool
19:33 mtompset How do you feel about GPL3? :)
19:34 xarragon What are the requirements to change a ticket's status to 'Signed-off'? I am not the owner or assignee, just a humble tester/reviewer.
19:34 mtompset I was thinking for hacking in Koha license to the top. :)
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19:34 wnickc If it's good enough for Koha, it's good enough for me :)
19:36 mtompset When did you first write this?
19:36 wnickc Um...A year ago, roughly
19:36 wnickc well, proof of concept maybe 2 years
19:36 mtompset Good enough... 2014 it is.
19:37 mtompset *shrug* 2013 for good measure then.
19:39 wnickc xarragon: follow the test plan, if it works as described, Sign Off!
19:40 wnickc if no test plan, ask for one (unless simple or obvious)
19:40 mtompset Archaic page:[…]gn_off_on_patches
19:40 wnickc you just make sure the fix works, QA makes sure it is a good fix
19:41 mtompset Though, git bz is your friend:[…]_bz_configuration
19:41 mtompset git bz?
19:41 wahanui i think git bz is so much fun :) or[…]_bz_configuration or just about anything except intuitive or AMAZING and WONDERFUL
19:41 xarragon wnickc: Ok, thanks.. Wasn't sure if I had the authority (Cartman voice) to do that.
19:41 mtompset authorita. :P
19:42 xarragon wahanui: git bz bit me in the butt when I thought it refered to commits the same way git show did
19:42 mtompset wnickc: Are your barcodes ISBNs?
19:42 wahanui xarragon: sorry...
19:42 xarragon Ah, right
19:42 mtompset no, because bz means BUGZILLA. :)
19:43 wnickc mtompset: god no!  Just alternate them unmarked in the file
19:44 mtompset Okay, your variable naming is horrible then. :P
19:44 mtompset I see that you are correct, now that you said that.
19:44 xarragon So it makes perfect sense to motivate a purchase of a $300 SSD since I am buying a DisplayPort cable for $13 and I do not want to squander the $8 shipping cost, right? right?
19:45 wnickc mtompset: hehe, I provide no warranty with these, and I did a lot of cut and pasting and going "noone will see this but me"
19:45 mtompset How thoughtful, I'll take 2, xarragon. ;)
19:45 mtompset wnickc: No problems. :)
19:45 mtompset Been there. Done that. :)
19:46 mtompset So, could you have an empty barcode or an empty isbn?
19:47 wnickc I think it dies if you do
19:47 wnickc it may warn, or may just stop processing abruptly
19:52 xarragon mtompset: well that would mean more shipping costs..
19:52 xarragon So in that case I have to buy something even more expensive to save more money etc
19:53 mtompset In that case, I have a $15,000 dream machine to pre-assemble. ;)
19:53 xarragon But if I buy something REALLY expensive then maybe it will wrap around and I'll make money instead of paying,
20:04 mtompset xarragon: Did you prove t/db_dependent/Overdues.t?
20:07 mtompset Because that's the beauty of tests being included with the patch. If they are well written, they test what needs to be tested. :)
20:09 xarragon mtompset: Yep it reported all good, as I say in the comment (I think).
20:10 xarragon Ah I mention "automated tests", could be a bit more explicit I guess.
20:11 xarragon Moving on to 12772
20:12 mtompset No, what you did seems fine.
20:12 mtompset Also, that SQL stuff is a confusing read.
20:13 xarragon mtompset: I was curious if it would be possible to do such a change in SQL only; withoyut the need for a perl file?
20:15 mtompset It's often best to not think about some things. :) -- Between the QA and RM, someone would complain if that is the wrong way to do it. At the lowest level, the issue is more, does it work as expected without expressly violating known guidelines.
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20:21 xarragon mtompset: I did not mean to complain, it was just that when I first submitted a db patch I needlessly put it into a .pl file. But mine was trivial; this task was more complex. I had merely had an academic interest in it.
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20:22 xarragon But no matter, I have more patches to sign off on
20:22 mtompset I didn't say you were complaining, so I apologize if it came off that way. :)
20:22 xarragon Also there will be no free SSDs, because I found a cheaper cable in a local store here. No shipping costs to offset.
20:23 xarragon mtompset: It did not, I am sorry if I gave that impression.
20:23 mtompset Sayang! (Oh well)
20:51 mtompset wnickc: You here?
20:51 wnickc mtompset: indeed
20:51 mtompset Take a look at my pull request. :)
20:52 mtompset I'm trying to figure out how NOT to pull request to master.
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20:54 mtompset I'm hating this interface.
20:55 wnickc I can't help you there, I only sort of understand git
20:55 wnickc I also think you can merge it in to master
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20:58 wnickc mtompset: there is a second branch now though, maybe try that?
20:59 tubaclarinet Good day everyone. Did I hear correctly that the inventory feature of Koha is being upgraded in v.3.20?
21:02 mtompset What do you mean? I was refering to a bug report that is already in Koha now.
21:03 mtompset wnickc: Okay, I'll pull against unstable. :)
21:03 Francesca hello
21:03 Francesca tubaclarinet: love your username
21:03 wahanui bidet, Francesca
21:04 tubaclarinet Francesca: :-)
21:04 mtompset Greetings, Francesca. :)
21:05 Francesca Hey mtompset
21:05 wahanui somebody said mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
21:05 Francesca what's up?
21:06 mtompset Just making wnickc's scripts pretty. :)
21:07 Francesca oh I like making stuff look pretty
21:08 wnickc mtompset++
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21:08 * Francesca waves at cdickinson
21:08 cdickinson =_=
21:09 Francesca is that a tired face?
21:09 cdickinson bags under my tired eyes
21:09 Francesca lol
21:10 Francesca love how there are now 2 musical usernames on here
21:12 mtompset pianohacker and tubaclarinet?
21:12 Francesca ypu
21:12 Francesca yup
21:13 tubaclarinet Anyone know about updates to Koha inventory tool?
21:14 mtompset tubaclarinet: Why are you asking?
21:15 mtompset Are you encountering a problem?
21:16 tubaclarinet mtompset: at present, inventory during lib open hrs is problematic w/ currently checked out items & i thot i heard that this was being improved.
21:16 tubaclarinet Not encountering problems, i will just suggest we wait 2 inventory until the nxt version of Koha.
21:17 mtompset OH.... you are probably thinking of ....
21:17 mtompset bug 11405
21:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11405 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Inventory tool enhancements
21:18 Francesca @wunder wlg
21:18 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on August 20, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
21:18 mtompset As you can see, it hasn't been signed off yet. But it is one of the ones I do want to get around to testing and confirming. :)
21:18 tubaclarinet mtompset: Thx, i'll check it out
21:19 tubaclarinet mtompset: So bug 11405 might be in koha v.3.22, but not any sooner than that?
21:20 cait_ it's marked as an enh - so yes
21:20 cait_ if it was a bug fix, it could get backported
21:20 mtompset What cait_ said.
21:21 * cait_ waves
21:21 tubaclarinet "enh" = enhancement or...?
21:21 Francesca tubaclarinet: I'm you're a fan of music if not a musician
21:21 * Francesca waves at cait_
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21:22 Francesca *I'm guessing (left a word out)
21:22 tubaclarinet Francesca: my wife plays clarinet (very well if i may brag) & i play tuba :-)
21:22 Francesca oh cool
21:23 tubaclarinet Francesca: it works for us
21:24 Francesca I study music at uni
21:25 tubaclarinet Francesca: me 2...bachelor of music in tuba perf
21:25 Francesca oh cool
21:25 cait_ yep
21:26 tubaclarinet Francesca: that degree basically says, "as fas as we know, this person practiced a lot and performed in our ensembles" but not good 4 much more than that ;-)
21:26 Francesca hahahahaha
21:26 wahanui hmmm... hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask?
21:27 Francesca I'm a music studies student
21:27 Francesca so don't quite have that
21:27 rangi morning
21:28 Francesca hey rangi :)
21:28 tubaclarinet Francesca: in general or somethings specific?
21:28 Francesca general: I play multiple instruments outside of the uni though
21:30 tubaclarinet Francesca: ur musical style? classical? jazz? pop? folk? etc.
21:30 Francesca classical
21:30 tubaclarinet Francesca: classical = my fav
21:31 Francesca yay!
21:32 tubaclarinet Frencesca: it was good 2 meet u, but I gotta go now :-( c u around the irc
21:33 tubaclarinet mtompset: thx 4 ur help
21:33 mtompset No problem, tubaclarinet.
21:33 tubaclarinet bye!
21:33 Francesca see ya lter tubaclarinet
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21:51 wnickc bye #koha
22:00 eythian hi
22:00 wahanui hello, eythian
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22:54 wizzyrea hi
22:55 * dcook wonders if wizzyrea is secretly eythian
22:55 wizzyrea nope, pretty sure not.
22:55 eythian oh no! my secret!
22:55 Francesca hahahahaha
22:55 wahanui hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask?
22:56 dcook Hmm I don't know how to say what I want to say..
22:56 * dcook researches quickly
22:56 dcook That "hi" seemed eythianesque
22:57 Francesca lol
22:57 dcook Except I don't think "esque" is quite the right thing to say..
22:57 dcook eythianian?
22:57 * Francesca waves at dcook
22:57 dcook hey Francesca :)
22:57 wizzyrea well, I only do it because if I don't put something in, I might miss my @laters :P
22:57 dcook Ah, fair enough
22:57 dcook No one laters me :(
22:57 dcook Well, recently :p
22:57 dcook O_O
22:57 dcook Forget I said that
22:58 wizzyrea hehe
22:58 * dcook anticipates spam laters now
22:58 * Francesca laughs at dcook
23:00 wizzyrea @later tell dcook that thing you did? that thing? it was awesome.
23:00 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
23:00 * wizzyrea flexes
23:00 dcook hehe
23:00 dcook Oooh
23:00 dcook Sent just now: <wizzyrea> that thing you did? that thing? it was awesome.
23:00 dcook I wonder what the threshold of "just now" is...
23:00 dcook At least 13 seconds..
23:01 dcook Actually, that makes me think about that whole "we'll be there presently" thing as well...
23:01 eythian <-- dcook, so about your adoptive country
23:01 eythian[…]r&oldid=510193971 <-- but this is a better infobox
23:01 dcook I went to "Emu Bank" the other day
23:01 dcook It was not a bank run by emus. I was disappointed.
23:01 Francesca emu war??? I'm trying not to laugh here
23:02 dcook Francesca: If you're trying not to laugh about Australia, I recommend not watching the Australian news
23:02 eythian Francesca: also, the emus won
23:02 dcook Well laugh/cry
23:02 dcook eythian: Well done, emus.
23:02 Francesca the emus won?? this just gets better and better
23:02 dcook emuae?
23:02 eythian emus
23:02 eythian 'u' is not a latinate suffix
23:02 dcook emuatta
23:02 dcook I know :P
23:02 eythian also, it's not a latin word
23:03 dcook And I suppose "ae" would refer to one, eh?
23:03 eythian no
23:03 eythian puella/puellae
23:03 dcook antenna/antennae... is the latter plural?
23:03 eythian oh wait
23:03 * dcook goes back to reading about machine guns
23:03 eythian oh, it can be both
23:03 * Francesca returns to essay writing
23:03 eythian nom/voc pl, gen/dat sing
23:04 eythian normally plural though cos who uses genitive or dative, really
23:04 dcook "The gun jammed after only twelve birds were killed, however, and the remainder scattered before more could be killed." Awks...
23:04 dcook Same thing happened to Canada in WWI I think...
23:05 dcook Although I don't think those were even automatics..
23:05 Francesca dcook: why are you reading about machine guns?
23:06 dcook Because they tried to kill the emus with machine guns
23:06 Francesca right
23:06 wizzyrea Spurious text after =cut  in file C4/ urgh, how tf does one track this down. I looked at the docs for pod::Checker but the thing that it says it is, I don't think it is..
23:06 wizzyrea so if anyone has an idea, please say.
23:06 dcook Apparently they used gases to wipe out rabbit hordes as well
23:06 dcook I think they had more success there though
23:06 dcook wizzyrea: Come again?
23:07 eythian wizzyrea: you might have a =cut without a blank line after it somewhere?
23:07 wizzyrea AH!
23:07 wizzyrea eythian++ for practical advice
23:07 dcook Ahhh I didn't know the Lee-Enfield rifle was a "three-oh-three"
23:07 dcook Or rather that the "three-oh-three" was a Lee-Enfield...
23:08 rangi line 163
23:08 wizzyrea yep, I actually found that but since my qa tools don't actually throw the error for god knows what reason I couldn't check it.
23:08 wizzyrea something is screwed up with my qa tools, apparently
23:09 wizzyrea yay?
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23:36 mtompset wizzyrea: You must be testing that forgotten password bug. ;)
23:36 wizzyrea how ever did you guess.
23:39 mtompset And now I see the error you see.
23:42 wizzyrea well you are welcome to that one.
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23:58 mtompset wizzyrea: Line 162.
23:58 wizzyrea did you happen to notice the new patch that looks at line 162 that I just put on the bug?
23:58 mtompset I hunted through the code to figure out what the QA tool was doing.
23:58 mtompset perl -e "use Pod::Checker; podchecker('/home/mtompset/kohac​lone/C4/');"
23:59 mtompset DOH! I was too slow. Okay. :(
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