IRC log for #koha, 2015-08-10

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00:06 Francesca joined #koha
00:17 Francesca hello #koha
00:36 wizzyrea Hi Francesca
00:36 Francesca hey wizzyrea :)
00:37 Francesca what's up?
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00:42 wizzyrea not a whole lot really
00:42 Francesca quiet day? lucky
00:42 Francesca dickinson is meeting me later to fix the driver issue on my vm
00:46 wizzyrea oh, work is busy enough :)
00:47 Francesca I
00:47 Francesca I am cat sitting
00:47 Francesca mum and david are in aus
00:48 Francesca first day of cat sitting they bought in a huge mouse
01:02 wizzyrea isn't that just the way
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01:45 dcook wizzyrea: hey, are you still around?
01:45 wizzyrea a bit, sup
01:45 dcook I'm just curious about your patch for the EDS plugin:[…]bbff3267de7d31b11
01:46 dcook What was it for?
01:46 wizzyrea it was a patch file to apply to the cart
01:46 dcook But for what purpose?
01:46 dcook I'm having some problems with the cart, but don't know if it's related?
01:46 wizzyrea to make EDS work with the cart
01:46 wizzyrea the cart is a real problem for the plugin.
01:46 wizzyrea it's way old.
01:47 rangi its all folded into the code itself now
01:47 wizzyrea that patch.
01:47 wizzyrea mostly it was to show alvet how to do it in the future, if he needed to.
01:47 rangi so that patch shouldnt be needed (in theory)
01:47 wizzyrea ^
01:47 rangi it would be nicer to have it as patches still
01:48 rangi because then you could just apply it, rather than replacing the files like you do now
01:48 rangi[…]opac/cgi-bin/opac  <-- you need those files for the eds stuff to work
01:48 rangi[…]opac/cgi-bin/opac  <-- those ones actually :)
01:48 dcook :S
01:48 wizzyrea yeah, that was the idea.
01:48 rangi but you get what i mean
01:49 dcook Well, I'm working on 3.14x atm
01:49 wizzyrea that you'd just apply the patches.
01:49 rangi yeah a patch for each version would be best
01:49 wizzyrea to your koha install, build a package off of that, and bada bing, all done.
01:49 dcook So do you mean the cart working with the Discovery results or the Koha results when using EDS?
01:49 wizzyrea then it's resolving conflicts instead of "has this moved since he made this"
01:49 dcook Because it's on the page that it's not working?
01:49 dcook That is, you remove items, but you refresh the page and they're still there
01:50 wizzyrea I have no doubt that it's broken
01:50 wizzyrea it's an ongoing struggle for the plugin :(
01:50 wizzyrea having opac results and discovery results in the same plugin.
01:50 wizzyrea sorry cart.
01:50 dcook Hmm, I think this might be something else then?
01:50 dcook Or related..
01:51 wizzyrea no idea, it's been a struggle and we've had so many version updates now I can't remember what's where.
01:51 dcook Hmm no worries
01:51 dcook I'll investigate more :)
01:55 wizzyrea needless to say, the cart and the EDS plugin are a work in progress
01:55 dcook The hell...
01:55 dcook You can say that again :)
01:56 dcook It looks like he's storing the cart cookie data in local storage as well...
01:57 * dcook is pretty sure the TTL stuff doesn't work at all
01:57 dcook But I think I'm meeting with Alvet tomorrow, so yay :)
02:03 dcook Hmm so the "Add to cart" and "(remove)" work from the search results...
02:05 wizzyrea oh nice, tell him hi from us
02:05 dcook Can do
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02:34 dcook Ahhh no wonder remove wasn't working...
02:34 dcook There's no reference to it in the JS that I can see...
02:34 dcook Just "Empty and close"
02:35 dcook Which... doesn't quite work either
02:35 dcook Oooh.
02:35 dcook There is "-1" item in my cart :D
02:36 wizzyrea if you look at the other vrsions of the plugin there may be a fix for that in there
02:36 mtj hey #koha, anyone recall what values the 'message_queue.status' column has?
02:37 wizzyrea select distinct(status) from message_queue;
02:37 dcook mtj: I assume sent, failed, pending, but not sure
02:37 wizzyrea should tell you what it's doing
02:37 dcook wizzyrea: Yeah, good call
02:37 wizzyrea or at least it will tell you what ones have ever been used
02:38 dcook wizzyrea: no cigar. Code looks the same.
02:38 wizzyrea ah, bummer
02:39 mtj thanks dcook, i just checked.. i think you are right :)
02:39 wizzyrea I thought I saw a fix for that one. Maybe we only reported it.
02:39 dcook Maybe that'll make it easier to fix at least..
02:39 dcook wizzyrea: Yeah, I think it's just a reported one
02:56 dcook I think maybe Koha is just trolling me now
02:56 dcook The plugin is relying on a number in "basketcount" but somehow I'm getting HTML :S
02:57 dcook I think perhaps that might be a jquery quirk...
02:59 dcook Yep... thought I'd seen this before
02:59 dcook That's a bit of a... Koha problem and an EDS problem...
03:15 dcook Hmm mmaybe I patched incorrectly...
03:15 * dcook isn't counting on it..
03:16 dcook Nope... exactly as instructed..
03:47 mtj dcook: fwiw.. i do recall getting the EDS plugin running on 3.14 without too many problems
03:48 mtj hmm, but i'm not sure about the cart stuff either..
03:52 dcook mtj: I'm fixing it ;)
03:52 dcook Yeah it works pretty well overall except for the cart I think
03:52 mtj aah, well done dcook :)
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04:17 dcook While trying to juggle a bunch of other projects at once :)
04:17 dcook should change my job title to "System Juggler"...
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04:20 dcook Or maybe I should say slowly and painfully trying to fix..
04:29 eythian oh, hi dcook
04:29 dcook yo eythian
04:29 eythian
04:30 dcook hehe
04:31 eythian[…]g_of_Afghanistan_(1880%E2%80%931901).svg <-- creative
04:35 dcook Those moments when you can't tell if it's a Koha bug or an EDS bug or...
04:35 dcook eythian: I was trying to think of a crack about how my soul sat for the painting of that one, but... :p
04:35 eythian heh
04:36 Francesca ahhh so cold
04:36 Francesca @wunder wlg
04:36 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
04:36 dcook Ahh, totally a Koha bug...
04:37 dcook Well, at least in 3.14.x
04:37 dcook If you add items to the cart, refresh the page, open the cart, "Empty and close", they'll be removed from your cart but the text on the page will still say "In your cart"
04:37 dcook Although the "incart" class is removed...
04:38 dcook Ahh nope...
04:38 dcook Refreshing the page removes the "incart" class..
04:38 dcook Ha! That's the bug
04:38 dcook Take that OPAC!
04:38 * dcook kicks the air
04:38 Francesca I'm dying of laughter here
04:38 dcook ^_^
04:38 Francesca what does kicking the air achieve against this bug?
04:39 Francesca mind you, I feel the same way
04:39 dcook Oh, it was a celebratory air kick
04:39 dcook Used to frighten the bug and boost my own spirits
04:39 Francesca cdickinson and I finally got that stupid video driver on my vm running
04:39 Francesca fair enough
04:39 dcook That does sound familiar
04:39 Francesca yeah it kept failing
04:40 Francesca and the vm was running slow
04:40 Francesca to the point where I would type something
04:40 Francesca and watch the vm type it out veeeeery slowly
04:40 dcook :/
04:40 Francesca but its fixed now!
04:40 * Francesca does a happy dance
04:41 Francesca hey dcook what are things like weather wise over your way?
04:42 dcook Mmm
04:42 dcook Blue skies
04:42 Francesca warm?
04:42 dcook I haven't moved since 9am though so I don't know about temps
04:42 * dcook might just put roots into this chair...
04:42 Francesca you're in sydney right?
04:42 dcook Yarp
04:43 Francesca @wunder syd
04:43 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Rosebery, Rosebery, New South Wales is 19.3°C (2:40 PM AEST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
04:43 dcook oh, that doesn't sound too bad
04:43 dcook Not much wind either
04:43 Francesca my mum and step dad are in sydeny at the moment
04:43 Francesca I have the house to myself for the week
04:45 eythian put a party on facebook
04:45 eythian that never ends badly
04:45 Francesca hahahahahaha
04:45 Francesca I have tests this week
04:45 Francesca so no partying
04:45 Francesca unless you count beer o'clock
04:45 Francesca css I'll be in on friday
04:47 eythian CSS huh
04:48 Francesca cas
04:48 Francesca can't spell
04:48 Francesca also I apparently have web terms on the brain
04:55 cdickinphone joined #koha
04:56 Francesca yo cdickinphone
04:57 cdickinphone Good afternoon Francesca
04:57 Francesca its so cold
04:57 cdickinphone @wunder nzwn
04:57 huginn cdickinphone: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:30 PM NZST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
04:57 Francesca bet me to it
04:57 Francesca for once
04:58 cdickinphone Fuelled by cold
04:59 Francesca how is cold motivation?
04:59 cdickinphone To see how much i can complain :p
05:01 Francesca hahaha ok
05:02 cdickinphone Hey Francesca, you're still free for the Pizza Thursday at the first Thursday of September, right?
05:02 Francesca uhhhh no idea
05:02 Francesca I didn't even know there was a pizza thursday
05:02 Francesca I come fridays
05:03 cdickinphone There is one, the next one is in the mid-term break
05:03 Francesca what time?
05:03 wahanui somebody said time was like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff. or generously donated to giving support in #koha but if you need more help faster than we can give it try
05:03 Francesca omg who taught him that
05:04 Francesca that is amazing
05:04 cdickinphone Mid day, sort of 12:30 onwards
05:04 Francesca wahanui: botsnack cookie
05:04 wahanui thanks Francesca :)
05:04 cdickinphone Something like that
05:04 Francesca theres a possibility I'm busy but that won't be till 4pm
05:04 Francesca and you said it was during mid-term?
05:05 cdickinphone Yeah
05:05 Francesca yeah ok I can come
05:05 cdickinphone I just had a light bulb moment
05:06 cdickinphone During Pizza Thursday, anyone can present stuff
05:06 Francesca yeah
05:06 cdickinphone I want to do one ob my project
05:06 Francesca you gonna present your project?]
05:06 Francesca cool
05:06 Francesca wish I had a cool project to present on
05:06 Francesca the last big one I did was the website for level 3 nice
05:07 cdickinphone On*
05:07 cdickinphone And actually show it working
05:07 cdickinphone And i want you to be there for that
05:07 cdickinphone That's where it is
05:08 Francesca want a hand presenting?
05:09 Francesca cdickinson:[…]-steal-your-files <--- have you got an add blocker installed
05:10 cdickinphone That would be awesome, Francesca
05:10 cdickinphone Actually, i just thought of something you can do that would be awesome that i can't
05:10 Francesca ok
05:11 Francesca explain
05:12 cdickinphone Make a simple registration page for adding new sites to Koha as a Service that isn't ugly and interactively checks the status on everything
05:13 Francesca so you need / want me to do that
05:13 cdickinphone Want
05:13 cdickinphone That would be really awesome
05:14 Francesca I can do that
05:14 Francesca I think
05:14 Francesca not sure i know how to do the last part
05:14 cdickinphone You can leave the scripting stuff to me
05:15 Francesca what the html?
05:15 wahanui the html is, like, great for the slips
05:15 Francesca I can do that too
05:15 cdickinphone Nah, the code to interact with Koha as a Service
05:15 Francesca ok cool
05:15 cdickinphone You HTML rings around me :p
05:15 Francesca I'll just get a basic webpage up and running then
05:15 Francesca :P
05:15 cdickinphone Thank you so much
05:16 Francesca no worries
05:16 Francesca It'll be fun for me
05:16 Francesca do you know how long it's been since I built a site from scratch?
05:16 cdickinphone I'll treat you to anything on Thursday
05:17 Francesca lets meet Wednesday to discuss further
05:17 cdickinphone Good idea
05:17 Francesca oh and a quick question - do you want me to build in the latest standard html 5?
05:17 Francesca a lot of the webpages here are using xhtml still
05:18 cdickinphone Please do
05:18 Francesca yay!
05:18 cdickinphone Go nuts
05:18 Francesca So you're telling me I get to build a site from scratch using the latest standards?
05:18 cdickinphone I'm using latest everything
05:18 Francesca you may have just made my day
05:18 Francesca am I building off a platform like wordpress?
05:19 Francesca or totally from scratch
05:19 cdickinphone It doesn't need to be fancy
05:20 cdickinphone From scratch keeps it simple and allows us to change everything
05:20 Francesca bingo
05:20 cdickinphone You'll be getting a credit in my thesis by the way
05:20 Francesca oh cool
05:21 dcook Man I love SSH tunnels...
05:21 cdickinphone Seriously, i'm grateful for this
05:22 Francesca no worries :)
05:22 Francesca heres an example of what kind of stuff i like to do
05:22 Francesca http://francescam.freewebhost.[…]x.php?ckattempt=1
05:22 Francesca thats my NCEA level 3 webpage
05:25 cdickinphone I already know you're good
05:25 Francesca cdickinphone: you will need to tell me what text you want
05:25 cdickinphone Something minimal like that is not a bad idea
05:25 Francesca and how many pages
05:25 eythian dcook: just buying Anathema tickets now. I had forgot to do that so far.
05:26 Francesca cdickinphone: I can do something like that page in kohl colours
05:26 Francesca *koha
05:26 Francesca or I can do something different
05:26 dcook eythian: Well, good thing you remembered now!
05:26 cdickinphone Francesca: yeah, please, Koha colours
05:26 Francesca sweet
05:27 Francesca more than one page?
05:27 * dcook wishes what he was doing before he got interrupted by a 40 minute phone call...
05:27 Francesca dcook: killing bugs?
05:27 dcook Yeah, I think it was the EDS thing
05:27 dcook But now I have more bugs
05:27 Francesca fun
05:27 dcook And my 3rd different system of the day :)
05:27 Francesca go kill them off
05:28 dcook Ugh, I hate when documentation is wrong...
05:29 Francesca that is annoying isn't it
05:29 dcook Very :(
05:29 Francesca cdickinphone: more than one page?
05:29 Francesca and how many browsers?
05:30 Francesca probably the only one I don't know is the new microsoft one
05:30 cdickinphone Francesca: it'd only be a few pages: registration form, confirmation, and then the page tracking the progress of provision
05:30 Francesca oh cool
05:30 cdickinphone Francesca: don't worry about browser compatibility too much
05:31 Francesca its mainly for the css
05:31 cdickinphone Ah
05:32 cdickinphone Sounds like Firefox and Chrome are all we'd be using
05:32 Francesca look when are you free on Wednesday?
05:32 cdickinphone If I use JavaScript, it'll be platform agnostic
05:33 Francesca oh I can even give you the koha favicon
05:33 cdickinphone :p
05:33 cdickinphone 1-2, and after 3 to an extent
05:33 Francesca what? I have the file - I designed it
05:34 eythian dcook: ticket: acquired.
05:34 cdickinphone Nice
05:34 Francesca (that is the one thats being used on the dashboard)
05:34 Francesca cdickinphone: I am in a tutorial from 1-2
05:34 Francesca perhaps we discuss on thursday instead?
05:35 cdickinphone Francesca: good idea
05:35 Francesca I won't build any test pages just yet
05:35 cdickinphone Mmm, good excuse to hang out for a while
05:35 Francesca but can draw up some sketches instead
05:35 cdickinphone That's cool
05:35 Francesca we'd already agreed to hang out anyway
05:36 Francesca sketches mean you get an overview, and I get a good idea before I start coding
05:36 cdickinphone :p yeah
05:36 cdickinphone You sound just like an engineer
05:37 Francesca #IlookLikeAnEngineer
05:37 dcook eythian: Nicely done :)
05:38 dcook Turns out that the new DSpace stores a lot of text values in a single table...
05:38 dcook And that if you have a repeated entry for a certain resource, you get inexplicably duplicated data...
05:38 dcook I mean... you shouldn't have a repeated entry... but still
05:38 Francesca cdickinphone: did you see that article I posted? Its important for you since you use firefox
05:38 * dcook wonders how someone repeated an entry...
05:38 cdickinphone Francesca: happy to have you as my engineer for this small projecg
05:38 cdickinphone Yeah, i did
05:38 Francesca got an add blocker?
05:39 cdickinphone Project*
05:39 cdickinphone Yep
05:39 dcook Oh wow... the bloody UI adds the duplicated entries...
05:39 cdickinphone Adblock Plus, but considering switching to UBlock
05:40 Francesca cool
05:40 eythian I've heard uBlock Origin is the way to go
05:40 cdickinphone ^ yeah
05:40 Francesca hmmm is it available for chrome as well?
05:40 cdickinphone I think Chrome has another better alternative
05:41 Francesca oh?
05:41 Francesca do tell
05:41 Francesca I use ad block pro
05:41 cdickinphone Dunno, not familiar with Chrome addons
05:41 * Francesca turns to google
05:42 cdickinphone All i know is Adblock Plus is not the best
05:42 eythian on ffx it's fairly memory hungry
05:42 Francesca hmm
05:42 cdickinphone Looks like i'm driving to Pak'nSave when i get home
05:42 Francesca no chocolate avalible?
05:43 cdickinphone Too much
05:43 cdickinphone Not on special at all
05:45 Francesca sad
05:45 cdickinphone 1% battery, prepare for me disconnecting
05:46 Francesca ok
05:46 Francesca return when you have your laptop
05:47 cdickinphone Francesca, if you get an S6, beware the screen brightness, these OLED screens destroy battery when you're viewing bright stuff
05:47 Francesca yeah I know
05:47 Francesca sony has great battery
05:47 Francesca but samsungs are so pretty
05:47 Francesca plus I find them more usable
05:47 cdickinphone But god it's beautiful when watching video...
05:48 Francesca do you have one?
05:48 Francesca ??
05:48 cdickinphone My S III mini has an OLED screen
05:49 Francesca ah
05:49 cdickinphone Best thing about it
05:49 Francesca I always carry a usb
05:49 Francesca so I can charge
05:49 cdickinphone I need a battery bank
05:49 Francesca I have a portable charger
05:50 cdickinphone The battery is a couple of years old and i use it a lot on thw go lately
05:50 Francesca yeah after about 3 years they start to die
05:51 cdickinphone I want to buy a higher end phone this time around, so i'm sticking with this until i can afford one
05:51 Francesca mm there is a kitty cat cuddling up to me
05:52 Francesca portable phone
05:52 Francesca maybe don't go straight to the s6
05:52 Francesca css expensive
05:52 cdickinphone Nah
05:52 Francesca cas
05:52 Francesca s4, s5?
05:52 Francesca I have my own personal heater
05:53 cdickinphone Those wouldn't be bad but i want the latest Android version, and support for future ones
05:53 cdickinphone Still cold here
05:53 Francesca so nexus
05:53 Francesca my heater is a cat
05:53 cdickinphone Train isn't bad then
05:53 cdickinphone Though*
05:53 Francesca what are you thinking of?
05:54 Francesca for phones
05:54 cdickinphone Had a Nexus 5 while i was doing an NWEN project, but not a big fan of the ergonomics
05:54 cdickinphone Nexus 6 is too big
05:54 Francesca so what are you thinking of then?
05:55 cdickinphone I was looking into the ASUS ZenFone 2, which is basically a high end phone for mid-range prices
05:55 Francesca ok
05:55 cdickinphone Only available here as an import though
05:55 Francesca so not samsung
05:55 Francesca oh be careful - some import phones don't support nz
05:55 cdickinphone Nah, too expensive
05:55 cdickinphone Nah, that one is good
05:56 Francesca you've checked?
05:56 cdickinphone Yeah :p Pretty much everything should be nowadays, as connection standards are globalising
05:56 cdickinphone Especially with LTE being rolled out
05:57 Francesca mmm
05:57 Francesca u going 4g?
05:57 Francesca its really fast
05:57 cdickinphone For sure
05:57 Francesca I love it
05:57 * Francesca has a phone that supports 4G
05:57 cdickinphone 3G is not bad, but having fast Internet on the go would be sweeeet
05:58 Francesca its a bit big for me to easily hold though
05:58 Francesca IKR?
05:58 cdickinphone My phone has a 4 inch screen
05:58 Francesca maybe we should move to individual chat
05:58 Francesca tiny
05:58 cdickinphone Lol
05:58 Francesca no sersiouly
05:58 Francesca anyways
05:58 Francesca facebook?
05:58 wahanui facebook is *not* a universal authenticator!
05:58 Francesca shush wahanui
05:58 cdickinphone Yeah
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06:11 cdickinson my phone died just as I got home
06:15 BobB hey dcook, eythian still about?
06:15 eythian for a moment
06:15 BobB is there a sys pref that turns search facets off and on?
06:15 eythian hmm
06:15 BobB I can't remember (:
06:15 eythian not aware of one
06:15 BobB and can't find one
06:15 eythian I think you can switch between koha facets and zebra facets though
06:16 eythian but I don't think you can just turn them off
06:16 BobB but I have an instance where facets display and one where they don't
06:16 eythian huh
06:16 eythian that's unexpected
06:16 eythian I don't think I've ever not seen them show
06:16 BobB ok, thx
06:16 BobB the install is not ours, its on centos
06:17 BobB and we can't easily poke at it
06:18 eythian I mean, I'd have a look for any syspref that matches "facet"
06:18 eythian but I've never noticed one that'll do this
06:18 BobB done that, no luck :)
06:19 BobB and went one by one through the search, opac and intranet sys prefs, to boot
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06:52 marcelr hi #koha
06:53 dcook yo marcelr
06:54 marcelr hi dcook
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07:10 cait morning #koha
07:10 dcook Ugh, I love how the ILS-DI documentation is a bit of a lie...
07:11 dcook yo cait :)
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07:16 cait hi dcook .9
07:16 cait :)
07:16 dcook :)
07:16 Francesca hi cait
07:17 cait hi Francesca
07:17 Francesca how goes it?
07:18 cait it's monday ;)
07:20 dcook ^
07:20 dcook So much that
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07:39 dcook wizzyrea: Keep finding more things... yikes...
07:40 Francesca bugs bugs and more bugs?
07:40 * Francesca thinks that dcook needs an exterminator
07:41 dcook yarp
07:41 dcook And it's so time to go home
07:41 dcook Way past time to go home
07:41 Francesca so homeward bound it is then?
07:42 dcook Pretty soon
07:42 * dcook appears to be a masochist
07:43 Francesca masochist?
07:44 dcook Apparently I like working even when it's painful :p
07:44 Francesca wow ok
07:44 dcook Nah, it's awful. I rather just work it out now while I'm on a roll
07:44 Francesca fair enough
07:58 dcook I love when a person wraps a "try-catch" around something but never deals with the catch
07:58 dcook No fatal errors because the error is being caught so we can just stroll along pretending everything is fine...
08:01 Francesca dcook: if you need stress relief...[…]s/pokePenguin.php
08:02 dcook Nah, no time for games
08:02 dcook Home-made perogies that my wife and I made last night though... those will be my dinner
08:02 dcook :D
08:04 Francesca :)
08:06 dcook En fait, I think I'll go now
08:06 dcook au revoir :D
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08:19 Joubu hello
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08:20 cait ping drojf
08:20 cait morning Joubu
08:20 cait @later ping drojf - ich hab da mal ne Frage... :)
08:20 huginn cait: downloading the Perl source
08:20 cait @later tell drojf - ich hab da mal ne Frage... :)
08:20 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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09:06 xarragon in 4
09:07 xarragon Damn this keyboard
09:29 cait xarragon: ?
09:39 xarragon cait: I was trying to type '/win 4', to change the current IRC window.
09:39 xarragon But this keyboard requires you to really pound the keys home.
09:50 cait new keyboard? :)
09:57 xarragon Old new keyboard, yes. But I think I will buy a proepr one, this is just a standard keyboard shipped with HP desktops. very nice feel, but with some hidden drawbacks
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11:49 tcohen morning
11:51 cait morning tcohen
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11:59 drojf hi #koha
12:11 cait morning drojf
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12:25 tcohen morning
12:25 tcohen @wunder cordoba,argentina
12:25 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.9°C (9:25 AM ART on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:25 tcohen hi Joubu
12:26 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
12:26 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 31.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
12:26 drojf i win
12:27 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
12:27 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 4.9°C (12:20 AM NZST on August 11, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
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12:42 tcohen drojf: :-P
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12:52 Joubu hi tcohen
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14:38 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:38 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 27.3°C (4:38 PM CEST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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15:43 tcohen hi cait
15:43 pianohacker hi tcohen
15:45 cait tcohen: you are lagging :)
15:45 tcohen hi pianohacker
15:45 tcohen i've been working with myu intern
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15:58 pianohacker tcohen: myu?
15:58 tcohen s/u//
15:59 tcohen cait: don't push me
15:59 tcohen it is taking me more time than expected to adjust the 'attach files' patches
15:59 cait me? push you?
15:59 cait you mus mistake me with pianohacker :P
16:00 pianohacker hey now :)
16:00 pianohacker I just want tcohen to push bgkriegel to answer my email, I'm not _that_ demanding...
16:01 tcohen i want to push pianohacker so he finishes rancor in a pusheable form in time for 3.22
16:02 pianohacker tcohen: working on it... gonna poke khall in person later today to find out how testing at nakug went
16:05 cait pianohacker: your comment made me hopeful - you were able to fix it all?
16:05 cait pianohacker: there is also a comment froma  potential sign-offer ont he bug :)
16:06 pianohacker cait: I was able to fix everything but the 003. That's a finicky issue that I'm not sure how to fix, because I realized that a widget like the ones for leader/005/008 wouldn't really be quite appropriate
16:06 cait hm, could you pull in the pref, when empty, like it is now?
16:07 pianohacker cait: well, yes, that part isn't hard, it's the infrastructure to make that without hard-coding it for MARC21 that's a bit trickier :)
16:08 pianohacker it's on my list of things to fix once I know that everything actually, y'know, works
16:11 cait i will try to give it another test drive soon... but this week is super busy and next week i am on vactaiont ravelling
16:12 Joubu bye #koha!
16:39 cait bye #koha
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17:25 tcohen @seen marcelr
17:25 huginn tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 31 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi dcook
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20:14 cait so was it only me or was the chat broken?
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20:15 rangi only you
20:16 cait the logs are pretty empty as well
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20:18 rangi 04:39 < cait> bye #koha
20:18 rangi 05:25 < tcohen> @seen marcelr
20:18 cait and then silence
20:18 rangi yep
20:18 rangi but still 30 people on the channel
20:18 cait weird
20:18 rangi its like that pretty much every morning
20:18 cait i couldn't even get to the oftc website
20:21 rangi i wonder if it was your isp being weird
20:22 cait no idea, everything else was ok
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21:08 burdsjm Has the hold's filled checkbox disappeared on patron accounts for anyone else?
21:09 rangi you mean in the messaging preferences?
21:10 burdsjm yes
21:10 rangi no, its there in master and 3.20.2 for me
21:11 burdsjm I'm on
21:11 rangi it's most likely data related
21:11 burdsjm Ok
21:12 burdsjm other checkboxes are there for email and working.
21:12 burdsjm email info is in there for the notices
21:12 wizzyrea I'll have a look 2 shakes.
21:13 rangi check your message_transports table
21:14 burdsjm ok
21:14 wizzyrea looks ok to me
21:14 wizzyrea on 3.18.x
21:24 cait it's a bug
21:24 cait it appears sometimes after updating
21:24 cait it happened to us in 1 of 18 instances
21:25 cait let me find the workaround
21:25 burdsjm great
21:25 cait but what rangi said is right, it's missing a line in a table
21:26 cait bug 13171
21:26 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13171 normal, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Check box for email is missing for hold notifications in patron messaging preferences.
21:26 burdsjm I see it
21:27 cait the sql is on the last comment
21:40 burdsjm thanks guys
21:40 burdsjm and girls :)
21:41 cait :)
21:42 cait wish we could figure out why and when that happens
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21:46 rangi probably the way to find out, turn on mysql logging, do the upgrade, roll back, do the upgrade, roll back, etc until it happens
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21:46 rangi then check the log to see what query was run that changed it
21:47 cait yeah, i just didn't have the time
21:47 cait i figured out a fix the first time it happened and then it got lost in the big pile
21:47 cait and hard when you don#t even know where to start... you could run quite a lot of updates
21:47 cait hm
21:48 rangi yeah but then you just grep the mysql log for message_transports
21:48 rangi its gonna have to have that in it
21:50 cait true
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22:18 eythian hi
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22:31 Francesca ahhh cold
22:32 Francesca @wunder wlg
22:32 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on August 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
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23:25 cdickinson literal Debian
23:25 wahanui cdickinson: Debian =is= what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that|Debian is never late or early. Debian arrives precisely when it means to.
23:26 cdickinson wahanui: Debian also is <reply> the operating system equivalent of rangi - straight up open source
23:26 wahanui OK, cdickinson.
23:28 rangi heh
23:39 Francesca cdickinson: lol
23:39 * Francesca waves at rangi
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