Time Nick Message 00:17 Francesca hello #koha 00:36 wizzyrea Hi Francesca 00:36 Francesca hey wizzyrea :) 00:37 Francesca what's up? 00:42 wizzyrea not a whole lot really 00:42 Francesca quiet day? lucky 00:42 Francesca dickinson is meeting me later to fix the driver issue on my vm 00:46 wizzyrea oh, work is busy enough :) 00:47 Francesca I 00:47 Francesca I am cat sitting 00:47 Francesca mum and david are in aus 00:48 Francesca first day of cat sitting they bought in a huge mouse 01:02 wizzyrea isn't that just the way 01:45 dcook wizzyrea: hey, are you still around? 01:45 wizzyrea a bit, sup 01:45 dcook I'm just curious about your patch for the EDS plugin: https://github.com/wizzyrea/edsapi-koha-plugin/commit/3cd0df32f9fda613574ef45bbff3267de7d31b11 01:46 dcook What was it for? 01:46 wizzyrea it was a patch file to apply to the cart 01:46 dcook But for what purpose? 01:46 dcook I'm having some problems with the cart, but don't know if it's related? 01:46 wizzyrea to make EDS work with the cart 01:46 wizzyrea the cart is a real problem for the plugin. 01:46 wizzyrea it's way old. 01:47 rangi its all folded into the code itself now 01:47 wizzyrea that patch. 01:47 wizzyrea mostly it was to show alvet how to do it in the future, if he needed to. 01:47 rangi so that patch shouldnt be needed (in theory) 01:47 wizzyrea ^ 01:47 rangi it would be nicer to have it as patches still 01:48 rangi because then you could just apply it, rather than replacing the files like you do now 01:48 rangi https://github.com/wizzyrea/edsapi-koha-plugin/tree/master/Patches/opac/cgi-bin/opac <-- you need those files for the eds stuff to work 01:48 rangi https://github.com/ebsco/edsapi-koha-plugin/tree/master/Patches/opac/cgi-bin/opac <-- those ones actually :) 01:48 dcook :S 01:48 wizzyrea yeah, that was the idea. 01:48 rangi but you get what i mean 01:49 dcook Well, I'm working on 3.14x atm 01:49 wizzyrea that you'd just apply the patches. 01:49 rangi yeah a patch for each version would be best 01:49 wizzyrea to your koha install, build a package off of that, and bada bing, all done. 01:49 dcook So do you mean the cart working with the Discovery results or the Koha results when using EDS? 01:49 wizzyrea then it's resolving conflicts instead of "has this moved since he made this" 01:49 dcook Because it's on the opac-search.pl page that it's not working? 01:49 dcook That is, you remove items, but you refresh the page and they're still there 01:50 wizzyrea I have no doubt that it's broken 01:50 wizzyrea it's an ongoing struggle for the plugin :( 01:50 wizzyrea having opac results and discovery results in the same plugin. 01:50 wizzyrea sorry cart. 01:50 dcook Hmm, I think this might be something else then? 01:50 dcook Or related.. 01:51 wizzyrea no idea, it's been a struggle and we've had so many version updates now I can't remember what's where. 01:51 dcook Hmm no worries 01:51 dcook I'll investigate more :) 01:55 wizzyrea needless to say, the cart and the EDS plugin are a work in progress 01:55 dcook The hell... 01:55 dcook You can say that again :) 01:56 dcook It looks like he's storing the cart cookie data in local storage as well... 01:57 * dcook is pretty sure the TTL stuff doesn't work at all 01:57 dcook But I think I'm meeting with Alvet tomorrow, so yay :) 02:03 dcook Hmm so the "Add to cart" and "(remove)" work from the search results... 02:05 wizzyrea oh nice, tell him hi from us 02:05 dcook Can do 02:34 dcook Ahhh no wonder remove wasn't working... 02:34 dcook There's no reference to it in the JS that I can see... 02:34 dcook Just "Empty and close" 02:35 dcook Which... doesn't quite work either 02:35 dcook Oooh. 02:35 dcook There is "-1" item in my cart :D 02:36 wizzyrea if you look at the other vrsions of the plugin there may be a fix for that in there 02:36 mtj hey #koha, anyone recall what values the 'message_queue.status' column has? 02:37 wizzyrea select distinct(status) from message_queue; 02:37 dcook mtj: I assume sent, failed, pending, but not sure 02:37 wizzyrea should tell you what it's doing 02:37 dcook wizzyrea: Yeah, good call 02:37 wizzyrea or at least it will tell you what ones have ever been used 02:38 dcook wizzyrea: no cigar. Code looks the same. 02:38 wizzyrea ah, bummer 02:39 mtj thanks dcook, i just checked.. i think you are right :) 02:39 wizzyrea I thought I saw a fix for that one. Maybe we only reported it. 02:39 dcook Maybe that'll make it easier to fix at least.. 02:39 dcook wizzyrea: Yeah, I think it's just a reported one 02:56 dcook I think maybe Koha is just trolling me now 02:56 dcook The plugin is relying on a number in "basketcount" but somehow I'm getting HTML :S 02:57 dcook I think perhaps that might be a jquery quirk... 02:59 dcook Yep... thought I'd seen this before 02:59 dcook That's a bit of a... Koha problem and an EDS problem... 03:15 dcook Hmm mmaybe I patched doc-head-close.inc incorrectly... 03:15 * dcook isn't counting on it.. 03:16 dcook Nope... exactly as instructed.. 03:47 mtj dcook: fwiw.. i do recall getting the EDS plugin running on 3.14 without too many problems 03:48 mtj hmm, but i'm not sure about the cart stuff either.. 03:52 dcook mtj: I'm fixing it ;) 03:52 dcook Yeah it works pretty well overall except for the cart I think 03:52 mtj aah, well done dcook :) 04:17 dcook While trying to juggle a bunch of other projects at once :) 04:17 dcook should change my job title to "System Juggler"... 04:20 dcook Or maybe I should say slowly and painfully trying to fix.. 04:29 eythian oh, hi dcook 04:29 dcook yo eythian 04:29 eythian http://piecomic.tumblr.com/post/124944353751 04:30 dcook hehe 04:31 eythian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_flags#/media/File:Flag_of_Afghanistan_(1880%E2%80%931901).svg <-- creative 04:35 dcook Those moments when you can't tell if it's a Koha bug or an EDS bug or... 04:35 dcook eythian: I was trying to think of a crack about how my soul sat for the painting of that one, but... :p 04:35 eythian heh 04:36 Francesca ahhh so cold 04:36 Francesca @wunder wlg 04:36 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 04:36 dcook Ahh, totally a Koha bug... 04:37 dcook Well, at least in 3.14.x 04:37 dcook If you add items to the cart, refresh the page, open the cart, "Empty and close", they'll be removed from your cart but the text on the page will still say "In your cart" 04:37 dcook Although the "incart" class is removed... 04:38 dcook Ahh nope... 04:38 dcook Refreshing the page removes the "incart" class.. 04:38 dcook Ha! That's the bug 04:38 dcook Take that OPAC! 04:38 * dcook kicks the air 04:38 Francesca I'm dying of laughter here 04:38 dcook ^_^ 04:38 Francesca what does kicking the air achieve against this bug? 04:39 Francesca mind you, I feel the same way 04:39 dcook Oh, it was a celebratory air kick 04:39 dcook Used to frighten the bug and boost my own spirits 04:39 Francesca cdickinson and I finally got that stupid video driver on my vm running 04:39 Francesca fair enough 04:39 dcook That does sound familiar 04:39 Francesca yeah it kept failing 04:40 Francesca and the vm was running slow 04:40 Francesca to the point where I would type something 04:40 Francesca and watch the vm type it out veeeeery slowly 04:40 dcook :/ 04:40 Francesca but its fixed now! 04:40 * Francesca does a happy dance 04:41 Francesca hey dcook what are things like weather wise over your way? 04:42 dcook Mmm 04:42 dcook Blue skies 04:42 Francesca warm? 04:42 dcook I haven't moved since 9am though so I don't know about temps 04:42 * dcook might just put roots into this chair... 04:42 Francesca you're in sydney right? 04:42 dcook Yarp 04:43 Francesca @wunder syd 04:43 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Rosebery, Rosebery, New South Wales is 19.3°C (2:40 PM AEST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 04:43 dcook oh, that doesn't sound too bad 04:43 dcook Not much wind either 04:43 Francesca my mum and step dad are in sydeny at the moment 04:43 Francesca I have the house to myself for the week 04:45 eythian put a party on facebook 04:45 eythian that never ends badly 04:45 Francesca hahahahahaha 04:45 Francesca I have tests this week 04:45 Francesca so no partying 04:45 Francesca unless you count beer o'clock 04:45 Francesca css I'll be in on friday 04:47 eythian CSS huh 04:48 Francesca cas 04:48 Francesca can't spell 04:48 Francesca also I apparently have web terms on the brain 04:56 Francesca yo cdickinphone 04:57 cdickinphone Good afternoon Francesca 04:57 Francesca its so cold 04:57 cdickinphone @wunder nzwn 04:57 huginn cdickinphone: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:30 PM NZST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 04:57 Francesca bet me to it 04:57 Francesca for once 04:58 cdickinphone Fuelled by cold 04:59 Francesca how is cold motivation? 04:59 cdickinphone To see how much i can complain :p 05:01 Francesca hahaha ok 05:02 cdickinphone Hey Francesca, you're still free for the Pizza Thursday at the first Thursday of September, right? 05:02 Francesca uhhhh no idea 05:02 Francesca I didn't even know there was a pizza thursday 05:02 Francesca I come fridays 05:03 cdickinphone There is one, the next one is in the mid-term break 05:03 Francesca what time? 05:03 wahanui somebody said time was like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff. or generously donated to giving support in #koha but if you need more help faster than we can give it try http://koha-community.org/support/paid/ 05:03 Francesca omg who taught him that 05:04 Francesca that is amazing 05:04 cdickinphone Mid day, sort of 12:30 onwards 05:04 Francesca wahanui: botsnack cookie 05:04 wahanui thanks Francesca :) 05:04 cdickinphone Something like that 05:04 Francesca theres a possibility I'm busy but that won't be till 4pm 05:04 Francesca and you said it was during mid-term? 05:05 cdickinphone Yeah 05:05 Francesca yeah ok I can come 05:05 cdickinphone I just had a light bulb moment 05:06 cdickinphone During Pizza Thursday, anyone can present stuff 05:06 Francesca yeah 05:06 cdickinphone I want to do one ob my project 05:06 Francesca you gonna present your project?] 05:06 Francesca cool 05:06 Francesca wish I had a cool project to present on 05:06 Francesca the last big one I did was the website for level 3 nice 05:07 cdickinphone On* 05:07 cdickinphone And actually show it working 05:07 cdickinphone And i want you to be there for that 05:07 cdickinphone That's where it is 05:08 Francesca want a hand presenting? 05:09 Francesca cdickinson: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/70985336/hackers-use-dodgy-web-ads-in-firefox-to-steal-your-files <--- have you got an add blocker installed 05:10 cdickinphone That would be awesome, Francesca 05:10 cdickinphone Actually, i just thought of something you can do that would be awesome that i can't 05:10 Francesca ok 05:11 Francesca explain 05:12 cdickinphone Make a simple registration page for adding new sites to Koha as a Service that isn't ugly and interactively checks the status on everything 05:13 Francesca so you need / want me to do that 05:13 cdickinphone Want 05:13 cdickinphone That would be really awesome 05:14 Francesca I can do that 05:14 Francesca I think 05:14 Francesca not sure i know how to do the last part 05:14 cdickinphone You can leave the scripting stuff to me 05:15 Francesca what the html? 05:15 wahanui the html is, like, great for the slips 05:15 Francesca I can do that too 05:15 cdickinphone Nah, the code to interact with Koha as a Service 05:15 Francesca ok cool 05:15 cdickinphone You HTML rings around me :p 05:15 Francesca I'll just get a basic webpage up and running then 05:15 Francesca :P 05:15 cdickinphone Thank you so much 05:16 Francesca no worries 05:16 Francesca It'll be fun for me 05:16 Francesca do you know how long it's been since I built a site from scratch? 05:16 cdickinphone I'll treat you to anything on Thursday 05:17 Francesca lets meet Wednesday to discuss further 05:17 cdickinphone Good idea 05:17 Francesca oh and a quick question - do you want me to build in the latest standard html 5? 05:17 Francesca a lot of the webpages here are using xhtml still 05:18 cdickinphone Please do 05:18 Francesca yay! 05:18 cdickinphone Go nuts 05:18 Francesca So you're telling me I get to build a site from scratch using the latest standards? 05:18 cdickinphone I'm using latest everything 05:18 Francesca you may have just made my day 05:18 Francesca am I building off a platform like wordpress? 05:19 Francesca or totally from scratch 05:19 cdickinphone It doesn't need to be fancy 05:20 cdickinphone From scratch keeps it simple and allows us to change everything 05:20 Francesca bingo 05:20 cdickinphone You'll be getting a credit in my thesis by the way 05:20 Francesca oh cool 05:21 dcook Man I love SSH tunnels... 05:21 cdickinphone Seriously, i'm grateful for this 05:22 Francesca no worries :) 05:22 Francesca heres an example of what kind of stuff i like to do 05:22 Francesca http://francescam.freewebhost.co.nz/SistaDansen/index.php?ckattempt=1 05:22 Francesca thats my NCEA level 3 webpage 05:25 cdickinphone I already know you're good 05:25 Francesca cdickinphone: you will need to tell me what text you want 05:25 cdickinphone Something minimal like that is not a bad idea 05:25 Francesca and how many pages 05:25 eythian dcook: just buying Anathema tickets now. I had forgot to do that so far. 05:26 Francesca cdickinphone: I can do something like that page in kohl colours 05:26 Francesca *koha 05:26 Francesca or I can do something different 05:26 dcook eythian: Well, good thing you remembered now! 05:26 cdickinphone Francesca: yeah, please, Koha colours 05:26 Francesca sweet 05:27 Francesca more than one page? 05:27 * dcook wishes what he was doing before he got interrupted by a 40 minute phone call... 05:27 Francesca dcook: killing bugs? 05:27 dcook Yeah, I think it was the EDS thing 05:27 dcook But now I have more bugs 05:27 Francesca fun 05:27 dcook And my 3rd different system of the day :) 05:27 Francesca go kill them off 05:28 dcook Ugh, I hate when documentation is wrong... 05:29 Francesca that is annoying isn't it 05:29 dcook Very :( 05:29 Francesca cdickinphone: more than one page? 05:29 Francesca and how many browsers? 05:30 Francesca probably the only one I don't know is the new microsoft one 05:30 cdickinphone Francesca: it'd only be a few pages: registration form, confirmation, and then the page tracking the progress of provision 05:30 Francesca oh cool 05:30 cdickinphone Francesca: don't worry about browser compatibility too much 05:31 Francesca its mainly for the css 05:31 cdickinphone Ah 05:32 cdickinphone Sounds like Firefox and Chrome are all we'd be using 05:32 Francesca look when are you free on Wednesday? 05:32 cdickinphone If I use JavaScript, it'll be platform agnostic 05:33 Francesca oh I can even give you the koha favicon 05:33 cdickinphone :p 05:33 cdickinphone 1-2, and after 3 to an extent 05:33 Francesca what? I have the file - I designed it 05:34 eythian dcook: ticket: acquired. 05:34 cdickinphone Nice 05:34 Francesca (that is the one thats being used on the dashboard) 05:34 Francesca cdickinphone: I am in a tutorial from 1-2 05:34 Francesca perhaps we discuss on thursday instead? 05:35 cdickinphone Francesca: good idea 05:35 Francesca I won't build any test pages just yet 05:35 cdickinphone Mmm, good excuse to hang out for a while 05:35 Francesca but can draw up some sketches instead 05:35 cdickinphone That's cool 05:35 Francesca we'd already agreed to hang out anyway 05:36 Francesca sketches mean you get an overview, and I get a good idea before I start coding 05:36 cdickinphone :p yeah 05:36 cdickinphone You sound just like an engineer 05:37 Francesca #IlookLikeAnEngineer 05:37 dcook eythian: Nicely done :) 05:38 dcook Turns out that the new DSpace stores a lot of text values in a single table... 05:38 dcook And that if you have a repeated entry for a certain resource, you get inexplicably duplicated data... 05:38 dcook I mean... you shouldn't have a repeated entry... but still 05:38 Francesca cdickinphone: did you see that article I posted? Its important for you since you use firefox 05:38 * dcook wonders how someone repeated an entry... 05:38 cdickinphone Francesca: happy to have you as my engineer for this small projecg 05:38 cdickinphone Yeah, i did 05:38 Francesca got an add blocker? 05:39 cdickinphone Project* 05:39 cdickinphone Yep 05:39 dcook Oh wow... the bloody UI adds the duplicated entries... 05:39 cdickinphone Adblock Plus, but considering switching to UBlock 05:40 Francesca cool 05:40 eythian I've heard uBlock Origin is the way to go 05:40 cdickinphone ^ yeah 05:40 Francesca hmmm is it available for chrome as well? 05:40 cdickinphone I think Chrome has another better alternative 05:41 Francesca oh? 05:41 Francesca do tell 05:41 Francesca I use ad block pro 05:41 cdickinphone Dunno, not familiar with Chrome addons 05:41 * Francesca turns to google 05:42 cdickinphone All i know is Adblock Plus is not the best 05:42 eythian on ffx it's fairly memory hungry 05:42 Francesca hmm 05:42 cdickinphone Looks like i'm driving to Pak'nSave when i get home 05:42 Francesca no chocolate avalible? 05:43 cdickinphone Too much 05:43 cdickinphone Not on special at all 05:45 Francesca sad 05:45 cdickinphone 1% battery, prepare for me disconnecting 05:46 Francesca ok 05:46 Francesca return when you have your laptop 05:47 cdickinphone Francesca, if you get an S6, beware the screen brightness, these OLED screens destroy battery when you're viewing bright stuff 05:47 Francesca yeah I know 05:47 Francesca sony has great battery 05:47 Francesca but samsungs are so pretty 05:47 Francesca plus I find them more usable 05:47 cdickinphone But god it's beautiful when watching video... 05:48 Francesca do you have one? 05:48 Francesca ?? 05:48 cdickinphone My S III mini has an OLED screen 05:49 Francesca ah 05:49 cdickinphone Best thing about it 05:49 Francesca I always carry a usb 05:49 Francesca so I can charge 05:49 cdickinphone I need a battery bank 05:49 Francesca I have a portable charger 05:50 cdickinphone The battery is a couple of years old and i use it a lot on thw go lately 05:50 Francesca yeah after about 3 years they start to die 05:51 cdickinphone I want to buy a higher end phone this time around, so i'm sticking with this until i can afford one 05:51 Francesca mm there is a kitty cat cuddling up to me 05:52 Francesca portable phone 05:52 Francesca maybe don't go straight to the s6 05:52 Francesca css expensive 05:52 cdickinphone Nah 05:52 Francesca cas 05:52 Francesca s4, s5? 05:52 Francesca I have my own personal heater 05:53 cdickinphone Those wouldn't be bad but i want the latest Android version, and support for future ones 05:53 cdickinphone Still cold here 05:53 Francesca so nexus 05:53 Francesca my heater is a cat 05:53 cdickinphone Train isn't bad then 05:53 cdickinphone Though* 05:53 Francesca what are you thinking of? 05:54 Francesca for phones 05:54 cdickinphone Had a Nexus 5 while i was doing an NWEN project, but not a big fan of the ergonomics 05:54 cdickinphone Nexus 6 is too big 05:54 Francesca so what are you thinking of then? 05:55 cdickinphone I was looking into the ASUS ZenFone 2, which is basically a high end phone for mid-range prices 05:55 Francesca ok 05:55 cdickinphone Only available here as an import though 05:55 Francesca so not samsung 05:55 Francesca oh be careful - some import phones don't support nz 05:55 cdickinphone Nah, too expensive 05:55 cdickinphone Nah, that one is good 05:56 Francesca you've checked? 05:56 cdickinphone Yeah :p Pretty much everything should be nowadays, as connection standards are globalising 05:56 cdickinphone Especially with LTE being rolled out 05:57 Francesca mmm 05:57 Francesca u going 4g? 05:57 Francesca its really fast 05:57 cdickinphone For sure 05:57 Francesca I love it 05:57 * Francesca has a phone that supports 4G 05:57 cdickinphone 3G is not bad, but having fast Internet on the go would be sweeeet 05:58 Francesca its a bit big for me to easily hold though 05:58 Francesca IKR? 05:58 cdickinphone My phone has a 4 inch screen 05:58 Francesca maybe we should move to individual chat 05:58 Francesca tiny 05:58 cdickinphone Lol 05:58 Francesca no sersiouly 05:58 Francesca anyways 05:58 Francesca facebook? 05:58 wahanui facebook is *not* a universal authenticator! 05:58 Francesca shush wahanui 05:58 cdickinphone Yeah 06:11 cdickinson my phone died just as I got home 06:15 BobB hey dcook, eythian still about? 06:15 eythian for a moment 06:15 BobB is there a sys pref that turns search facets off and on? 06:15 eythian hmm 06:15 BobB I can't remember (: 06:15 eythian not aware of one 06:15 BobB and can't find one 06:15 eythian I think you can switch between koha facets and zebra facets though 06:16 eythian but I don't think you can just turn them off 06:16 BobB but I have an instance where facets display and one where they don't 06:16 eythian huh 06:16 eythian that's unexpected 06:16 eythian I don't think I've ever not seen them show 06:16 BobB ok, thx 06:16 BobB the install is not ours, its on centos 06:17 BobB and we can't easily poke at it 06:18 eythian I mean, I'd have a look for any syspref that matches "facet" 06:18 eythian but I've never noticed one that'll do this 06:18 BobB done that, no luck :) 06:19 BobB and went one by one through the search, opac and intranet sys prefs, to boot 06:52 marcelr hi #koha 06:53 dcook yo marcelr 06:54 marcelr hi dcook 07:10 cait morning #koha 07:10 dcook Ugh, I love how the ILS-DI documentation is a bit of a lie... 07:11 dcook yo cait :) 07:16 cait hi dcook .9 07:16 cait :) 07:16 dcook :) 07:16 Francesca hi cait 07:17 cait hi Francesca 07:17 Francesca how goes it? 07:18 cait it's monday ;) 07:20 dcook ^ 07:20 dcook So much that 07:39 dcook wizzyrea: Keep finding more things... yikes... 07:40 Francesca bugs bugs and more bugs? 07:40 * Francesca thinks that dcook needs an exterminator 07:41 dcook yarp 07:41 dcook And it's so time to go home 07:41 dcook Way past time to go home 07:41 Francesca so homeward bound it is then? 07:42 dcook Pretty soon 07:42 * dcook appears to be a masochist 07:43 Francesca masochist? 07:44 dcook Apparently I like working even when it's painful :p 07:44 Francesca wow ok 07:44 dcook Nah, it's awful. I rather just work it out now while I'm on a roll 07:44 Francesca fair enough 07:58 dcook I love when a person wraps a "try-catch" around something but never deals with the catch 07:58 dcook No fatal errors because the error is being caught so we can just stroll along pretending everything is fine... 08:01 Francesca dcook: if you need stress relief... http://www.gamesville.com/html_downloads/pokePenguin.php 08:02 dcook Nah, no time for games 08:02 dcook Home-made perogies that my wife and I made last night though... those will be my dinner 08:02 dcook :D 08:04 Francesca :) 08:06 dcook En fait, I think I'll go now 08:06 dcook au revoir :D 08:19 Joubu hello 08:20 cait ping drojf 08:20 cait morning Joubu 08:20 cait @later ping drojf - ich hab da mal ne Frage... :) 08:20 huginn cait: downloading the Perl source 08:20 cait @later tell drojf - ich hab da mal ne Frage... :) 08:20 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 09:06 xarragon in 4 09:07 xarragon Damn this keyboard 09:29 cait xarragon: ? 09:39 xarragon cait: I was trying to type '/win 4', to change the current IRC window. 09:39 xarragon But this keyboard requires you to really pound the keys home. 09:50 cait new keyboard? :) 09:57 xarragon Old new keyboard, yes. But I think I will buy a proepr one, this is just a standard keyboard shipped with HP desktops. very nice feel, but with some hidden drawbacks 11:49 tcohen morning 11:51 cait morning tcohen 11:59 drojf hi #koha 12:11 cait morning drojf 12:25 tcohen morning 12:25 tcohen @wunder cordoba,argentina 12:25 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.9°C (9:25 AM ART on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 12:25 tcohen hi Joubu 12:26 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 12:26 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 31.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 12:26 drojf i win 12:27 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt 12:27 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 4.9°C (12:20 AM NZST on August 11, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 12:42 tcohen drojf: :-P 12:52 Joubu hi tcohen 14:38 cait @wunder Konstanz 14:38 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 27.3°C (4:38 PM CEST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 15:43 tcohen hi cait 15:43 pianohacker hi tcohen 15:45 cait tcohen: you are lagging :) 15:45 tcohen hi pianohacker 15:45 tcohen i've been working with myu intern 15:58 pianohacker tcohen: myu? 15:58 tcohen s/u// 15:59 tcohen cait: don't push me 15:59 tcohen it is taking me more time than expected to adjust the 'attach files' patches 15:59 cait me? push you? 15:59 cait you mus mistake me with pianohacker :P 16:00 pianohacker hey now :) 16:00 pianohacker I just want tcohen to push bgkriegel to answer my email, I'm not _that_ demanding... 16:01 tcohen i want to push pianohacker so he finishes rancor in a pusheable form in time for 3.22 16:02 pianohacker tcohen: working on it... gonna poke khall in person later today to find out how testing at nakug went 16:05 cait pianohacker: your comment made me hopeful - you were able to fix it all? 16:05 cait pianohacker: there is also a comment froma potential sign-offer ont he bug :) 16:06 pianohacker cait: I was able to fix everything but the 003. That's a finicky issue that I'm not sure how to fix, because I realized that a widget like the ones for leader/005/008 wouldn't really be quite appropriate 16:06 cait hm, could you pull in the pref, when empty, like it is now? 16:07 pianohacker cait: well, yes, that part isn't hard, it's the infrastructure to make that without hard-coding it for MARC21 that's a bit trickier :) 16:08 pianohacker it's on my list of things to fix once I know that everything actually, y'know, works 16:11 cait i will try to give it another test drive soon... but this week is super busy and next week i am on vactaiont ravelling 16:12 Joubu bye #koha! 16:39 cait bye #koha 17:25 tcohen @seen marcelr 17:25 huginn tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 31 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi dcook 20:14 cait so was it only me or was the chat broken? 20:15 rangi only you 20:16 cait the logs are pretty empty as well 20:18 rangi 04:39 < cait> bye #koha 20:18 rangi 05:25 < tcohen> @seen marcelr 20:18 cait and then silence 20:18 rangi yep 20:18 rangi but still 30 people on the channel 20:18 cait weird 20:18 rangi its like that pretty much every morning 20:18 cait i couldn't even get to the oftc website 20:21 rangi i wonder if it was your isp being weird 20:22 cait no idea, everything else was ok 21:08 burdsjm Has the hold's filled checkbox disappeared on patron accounts for anyone else? 21:09 rangi you mean in the messaging preferences? 21:10 burdsjm yes 21:10 rangi no, its there in master and 3.20.2 for me 21:11 burdsjm I'm on 3.18.08.000 21:11 rangi it's most likely data related 21:11 burdsjm Ok 21:12 burdsjm other checkboxes are there for email and working. 21:12 burdsjm email info is in there for the notices 21:12 wizzyrea I'll have a look 2 shakes. 21:13 rangi check your message_transports table 21:14 burdsjm ok 21:14 wizzyrea looks ok to me 21:14 wizzyrea on 3.18.x 21:24 cait it's a bug 21:24 cait it appears sometimes after updating 21:24 cait it happened to us in 1 of 18 instances 21:25 cait let me find the workaround 21:25 burdsjm great 21:25 cait but what rangi said is right, it's missing a line in a table 21:26 cait bug 13171 21:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13171 normal, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Check box for email is missing for hold notifications in patron messaging preferences. 21:26 burdsjm I see it 21:27 cait the sql is on the last comment 21:40 burdsjm thanks guys 21:40 burdsjm and girls :) 21:41 cait :) 21:42 cait wish we could figure out why and when that happens 21:46 rangi probably the way to find out, turn on mysql logging, do the upgrade, roll back, do the upgrade, roll back, etc until it happens 21:46 rangi then check the log to see what query was run that changed it 21:47 cait yeah, i just didn't have the time 21:47 cait i figured out a fix the first time it happened and then it got lost in the big pile 21:47 cait and hard when you don#t even know where to start... you could run quite a lot of updates 21:47 cait hm 21:48 rangi yeah but then you just grep the mysql log for message_transports 21:48 rangi its gonna have to have that in it 21:50 cait true 22:18 eythian hi 22:31 Francesca ahhh cold 22:32 Francesca @wunder wlg 22:32 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on August 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 23:25 cdickinson literal Debian 23:25 wahanui cdickinson: Debian =is= what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that|Debian is never late or early. Debian arrives precisely when it means to. 23:26 cdickinson wahanui: Debian also is <reply> the operating system equivalent of rangi - straight up open source 23:26 wahanui OK, cdickinson. 23:28 rangi heh 23:39 Francesca cdickinson: lol 23:39 * Francesca waves at rangi