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mtj |
hey #koha, does http://webchat.oftc.net work for anyone? |
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mtj |
ie: can anyone get to #koha from there? ^ |
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eythian |
mtj: it seems to fail to connect to the network, to me. |
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eythian |
it doesn't even look like it tries, really |
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mtj |
ta eythian, me too |
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hey Francesca |
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wahanui |
I love the 11th doctor! |
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what sup rangi |
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rangi |
not too much, just ticking away at work |
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rangi |
how's the first day of uni? |
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Francesca |
I was back last week |
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Francesca |
but to answer your question good but extremely busy |
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I |
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Francesca |
oops hit enter too soon |
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Francesca |
I'm normally free on friday afternoons now so if its ok with you could I come in then just to get some stuff done and get some help if needed |
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rangi |
yeah fridays are pretty much always fine |
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sweet |
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Francesca |
I probably won't come this week as I have extra choir rehearsals |
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rangi |
no worries |
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I will be getting on to the skin soon |
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just gotta get everything running on mac first |
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I'm doing it the hard way apparently |
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hi all |
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sup AmitG |
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AmitG |
hi Francesca |
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waves at aleisha |
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eythian |
https://www.elastic.co/guide/e[…]odules-tribe.html <-- what I think we should use to join Koha systems together, or add other data sources to Koha. |
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rangi |
ohh |
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rangi |
cool |
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there are data safety issues, but I'm sure we can work that out. |
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*nod* |
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morning #koha |
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gaetan_B |
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hello, gaetan_B |
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hello |
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janPasi |
hi koha! anyone got an idea why we're getting a bunch of "invalid value" errors for transport cost matrix? |
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janPasi |
also the matrix doesn't get saved at all |
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janPasi |
transport-cost-matrix.pl: Use of uninitialized value $value in pattern match (m//) at /home/koha/kohaclone/admin/transport-cost-matrix.pl line 85., referer: http://[...]/cgi-bin/koha/admin/transport-cost-matrix.pl? |
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janPasi |
that's in the error-log |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi marcelr |
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marcelr |
:) |
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janPasi |
seems that transport_cost table is empty, how is it supposed to get filled? |
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janPasi |
or how can i create it? |
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cait |
you don't need it until you are using the transport cost matrix to determine which libraires shoudl fill a hold |
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cait |
in a multibranch system |
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cait |
it's an optional feature |
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cait |
there is a system preference and a configuration page for it |
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janPasi |
that's what i'm planning to do, we need that feature |
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janPasi |
what's the system pref called? |
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cait |
search for transport |
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janPasi |
"use transport cost matrix" is "use", and we've tried setting them up with transport-cost-matrix.pl, but it just gives us those "invalid value" errors |
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janPasi |
and refuses to save the matrix |
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cait |
what have you tried to enter and which version are you using? |
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janPasi |
this is 3.16.04 and we just tried to set one value (30) in transport-cost-matrix.pl to test the feature |
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cait |
no error shown? |
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janPasi |
There were problems with your submission |
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janPasi |
Invalid value for Aseman kirjasto -> Jäälin kirjasto |
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cait |
hmm could you try with the english templates? just for testing? |
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janPasi |
and the same repeats for every branch-combination |
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janPasi |
cait: iäm currently using english templates |
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janPasi |
*i'm |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
and you just entered 30? |
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janPasi |
yep |
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cait |
my test database has only a single branch so i can't test |
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cait |
is there a javascript error by chance? |
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cait |
3.16 is pretty old by now |
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janPasi |
we have 50 branches here |
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cait |
i am teting in 3.20 and ther eit saves without any problems |
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cait |
i wonder if it could be an encoding issue - coudl you try 2 branches with no special characters? |
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cait |
what i do is click in the field, uncheck the disabled checkbox, enter "10" and save |
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janPasi |
that's exactly what we've done here too |
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janPasi |
we have errors like this in koha-err.log: |
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janPasi |
[Mon Jul 20 10:45:20.540847 2015] [cgi:error] [pid 7762] [client 10.76.90.9:49034] AH01215: [Mon Jul 20 10:45:20 2015] transport-cost-matrix.pl: Use of uninitialized value $value in pattern match (m//) at /home/koha/kohaclone/admin/transport-cost-matrix.pl line 85. |
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cait |
hm can't check that here right now |
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cait |
could you try one of the public demos maybe? |
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janPasi |
got an address at hand? |
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cait |
demo? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it demo is at http://koha-community.org/demo/ or http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ha_Demo_Databases |
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janPasi |
ok, thanks :D |
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janPasi |
no-errors there and the value gets saved |
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cait |
hm so it could be 2 thing i guess... something about the data or the version |
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janPasi |
i think transport-cost-matrix.pl is pretty old, it has (c)2000-2002 katipo communications and 2010 biblibre, so not likely a version issue |
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janPasi |
unless ofcourse it's been fixed after 3.16 :D |
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janPasi |
it could be a problem with ä/ö actually |
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drojf |
if something has been fixed, it should be on the bugtracker |
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janPasi |
it seems to complain about transport pairs with one of those letters in the branch name |
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drojf |
what letters? |
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drojf |
(08:57:12) janPasi: it could be a problem with ?/? actually |
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drojf |
(maybe that is a problem on my side?) |
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cait |
hm i think the copyright is wrong there |
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cait |
the feature is not nearly that old |
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cait |
probably bad copy and paste |
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cait |
it's from 3.10 tho |
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cait |
http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]rix-in-koha-3-10/ |
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cait |
drojf: i only see question marks too :) |
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janPasi |
it was a problem with Ä |
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janPasi |
one our branch-codes has Ä in it and that seems to make the saving fail |
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cait |
it would be good to see if that is also a problem in later versions - maybe change a branchname on the demo for a test? |
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cait |
eek |
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cait |
yeah, don't use such things in branchcodes |
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cait |
branchnames can be anything, but any codes in koha should only be a-z0-9 |
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janPasi |
it wasn't me! :D |
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janPasi |
i swear |
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cait |
and no spaces or underscores |
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cait |
i believe you - and it's pretty hard to change later on |
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cait |
but *shudder* |
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janPasi |
_ is ok, though |
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janPasi |
you think an underscore will be a problem later on? |
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janPasi |
maybe we should change them |
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fridolin |
hie there |
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cait |
janPasi: i'd avoid underscores as well because of zebra - it might lead to strange search results |
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drojf |
oh look, some tumbleweed tumbled through my inbox |
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cait |
wow |
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drojf |
i guess it's unmotivated monday for everyone |
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drojf |
@later tell rangi the author line of the unsung heroes pdf says "chris cormack, chris" |
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huginn` |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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drojf |
@later tell wizzyrea any idea what options there are to translate (parts of) the website? i think it would be appropriate to have multilingual information available, but could not possibly translate all of it. would it be possible to use a fallback option for things that are not translated? es.koha-community.org does not seem to exist any longer, so i can't check what they did |
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huginn` |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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drojf |
@later tell wizzyrea this looks like it does what i am thinking about https://wordpress.org/plugins/polylang/ do you think it would be an option for the koha website? |
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huginn` |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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tcohen |
hi drojf |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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marcelr |
hi tcohen |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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drojf |
hi marcelr |
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tcohen |
i'm back from my holiday in buenos aires |
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marcelr |
hi drojf |
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tcohen |
hi marcelr |
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tcohen |
drojf: about the video's license https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797468 |
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jajm |
is there a way in Koha to store simple variables like systempreferences, but not editable by users (only by code) ? |
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drojf |
tcohen: thanks. can we put a version somewhere else too? like, not on youtube |
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drojf |
just as a file download |
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tcohen |
jajm, maybe systempreferences ? |
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tcohen |
drojf: will ask the authors, I think I have a version somewhere, the problem is i lost lots of things on my stolen laptop |
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cait |
jajm: what's the use case? |
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jajm |
tcohen, system prefrences are meant to be editable by user, right ? |
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drojf |
tcohen: oh yes forgot about that :(( |
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tcohen |
no worries |
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tcohen |
jajm: yes, I think cait's question is the best way to go |
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tcohen |
I was thinking systempreferences are only available for editing iif they are explicitly listed in the yaml file |
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jajm |
cait, to display a question with a button "remind me later" |
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cait |
tcohen: on local use tab they are all :) |
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tcohen |
oh |
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cait |
jajm: oh, sorry, in which context? |
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drojf |
i wish i had that button as an option for everything |
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tcohen |
drojf: i've just found a 720p version (not the 1080p original file, but might work) |
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tcohen |
it is 364MB |
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jajm |
cait, we want to display a message at intranet front page saying "Hea is disabled. Do you want to enable it ?" "Yes" "No (dont show again)" "Remind me later" |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
it sounds a bit aggressive |
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cait |
to have that by default |
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tcohen |
jajm: I'd use a local syspref, as cait said |
| 12:57 |
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tcohen |
well, she didn't, but is monday, we are allowed to make no sense |
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drojf |
tcohen: great! maybe we can put it on the website, don't know if that would be a traffic problem though. i already @latered wizzyrea with something else so i'll postpone that ;) but its good the file is still available |
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tcohen |
drojf: just let me know what you need from me |
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tcohen |
i was waiting for liz's remake of the film (shorter version) |
| 12:59 |
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drojf |
maybe we could do a smaller webm to stream file at least |
| 12:59 |
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drojf |
oh there is a remake? |
| 12:59 |
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drojf |
or, will be |
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jajm |
cait, we can make something discreet :) and also we're afraid that nobody will be using this feature if not suggested |
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tcohen |
she wanted to make one, removing the kohacon part |
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drojf |
ok, then we should wait for that |
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tcohen |
i think we should both ask her about it |
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drojf |
peer pressure, good idea ;) |
| 13:03 |
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tcohen |
yeha |
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cait |
jajm: yeah, but i think it sounds like suggesting it a lot :) and i think a pref then - why would you not let them change it? |
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cait |
jajm: because i'd like to turn that off for our customers after updating |
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cait |
so a prf would be handy |
| 13:04 |
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cait |
to avoid 20 libraries getting scared ;) |
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jajm |
cait, there's already a system preference for that, my first question was about storing the last time we showed the message (in case of "Remind me later" click) |
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jajm |
not something we want to be editable |
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cait |
I am not totally sold on the idea of such pop-ups to be honest |
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cait |
but i'd not worry so much about people editing it - the whatdidyoumean is also stored as a pref (see local use) |
| 13:12 |
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jajm |
cait, it can be a simple line under the "XXX pending approval", not very intrusive I think, but still visible |
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drojf |
it sounds a bit like an anti-feature to me |
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cait |
i know it's meant well... but such things can be pretty annoying to some people |
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drojf |
people like me :) |
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jajm |
I understand... so... any other idea to encourage using this feature ? :) |
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cait |
hm, blog post, newsletter, about page? |
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drojf |
what advantages does a library have from hea? |
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cait |
i guess one of the problems for us would be privacy - because the biblibre server can store all the ip addresses of the koha servers |
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drojf |
like google, where they all want to be listed ;) |
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cait |
yeah i know |
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cait |
i know... |
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jajm |
cait, how could we fix that ? |
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cait |
not sure - i haven't had time yet to look into this |
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cait |
would have to talk to our expert what is ok and needed |
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cait |
sorry, need to fix something now - have only 25 mins left before i have to run to my bus ) |
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drojf |
jajm: i think there should be more information about -what kind of information is provided -provided to whom -what is the background. |
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drojf |
so that libraries can have a reason to actively opt in |
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drojf |
also, can i (or anyone, or the libraries) access the data and play with it? |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12352: Patron modification request page: Add link to patron record <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ec2c1867bfd633016> / Bug 14524: Don't escape query_cgi with uri <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]07e8d3be310dd358b> / Bug 14494: Add some unit tests too for CalcDateDue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko |
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jajm |
drojf, you can access the data here http://hea.koha-community.org/ |
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drojf |
jajm: i mean raw data. i don't really know what all is collected, but if you want libraries to take part, you should consider making it open data officially. and maybe find use cases beyond displaying it on the website |
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i mean, as a library, i would wonder what goals are there behind hea. display some graphs on a website? not very convincing |
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drojf |
btw i think that "On this way they will concentrate on features used by most people." from the rfc is problematic. maybe some features are used less, because they would need more attention, not less? |
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(also i do not see how you can get an idea of that from the data on the website) |
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the website certainly needs some work |
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drojf |
i think my first question would be, what data is actually collected from my library. i do not see that documented anywhere |
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drojf |
well, it will be in the source code probably :) but that is not where the library will go to find that out |
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drojf |
german word of the day:Zeitschriftenabonnementstatistik |
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tcohen |
@seen Joubu |
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huginn` |
tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 20 hours, and 56 seconds ago: <Joubu> I will be off for the next 2 weeks, see you! |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12137: DBRev 3.21.00.015 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]de521c4bb38b501ea> / Bug 12137: Use Koha.Preference to access pref value <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]575662f401dce438c> / Bug 12137: followup sort index by value <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]51adc64a298b9970e |
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tcohen |
morning talljoy khall_away |
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talljoy |
morning! |
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geek_cl |
Hi #koha ! |
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geek_cl |
any idea how to measure the Koha enviroment ' |
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geek_cl |
? |
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tcohen |
du --si -s koha_env/ |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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tcohen |
that's a measure |
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geek_cl |
yes, but focus on the answer of the entire koha env system, i mean answer by apache, the responses from mysql |
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tcohen |
what do you want to measure? |
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geek_cl |
not like, top, du, free and etc |
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tcohen |
the question itself is vague |
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geek_cl |
apache+mysql basically |
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tcohen |
performance? |
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wahanui |
well, performance is a non-issue with it these days, computer are plain good at encryption ;) |
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geek_cl |
one minute, i will try to explaint the context |
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geek_cl |
(with my bad english ) :D |
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tcohen |
geek_cl: i used nytprof to measure the time it takes a page and find bottlenecks |
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tcohen |
you can do it in spanish, of course |
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geek_cl |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]th_Devel::NYTProf |
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geek_cl |
ok, we get the database to a remote server,now we need to measure the new behavior to have done with this division. |
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tcohen |
you want to measure the added latency |
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tcohen |
introduced by moving to a remote DB server |
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tcohen |
just pick a page, nytprof it, with local vs. remote db server |
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tcohen |
the page should be meaningful I guess |
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tcohen |
a page that makes lots of db queries |
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tcohen |
(any of Koha's page heh) |
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tcohen |
khall_away: I'm sorry |
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* tcohen |
just failed 13022 |
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geek_cl |
Ok tomas, i will consider that |
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tcohen |
geek_cl: i'm glad to help |
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geek_cl |
as always ;) |
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geek_cl |
thanks ! ;) |
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sseeeee u |
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reiveune |
mibye |
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bye |
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bag |
cait: HI |
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bag |
tcohen: HI THERE |
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wahanui |
que tal, bag |
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cait |
hi bag |
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tcohen |
qqqhi bag |
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AmitG |
heya cait, bag |
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* cait |
waves |
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drojf |
cait: i hope you enjoy my translation email :P |
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drojf |
later #koha |
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tcohen |
matts_away: around? |
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tcohen |
@later tell matts i need your feedback regarding your discharge patch |
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huginn` |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
tcohen: wrong time, 8 pm here :) |
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tcohen |
ah, i'm still catching up with being back to the office it seems |
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cait |
:) |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 23.0°C (7:50 PM CEST on July 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn` |
tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 15.6°C (3:10 PM ART on July 20, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Falling). |
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bag |
@wunder pdx |
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huginn` |
bag: The current temperature in Vancouver Heights, Vancouver, Washington is 24.3°C (11:13 AM PDT on July 20, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
could someone cook my potato soup? that would be awesome |
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drojf |
oh come on. are we a community or not? |
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drojf |
not sure if i should put "make potato soup for drojf" on the bugtracker or the meeting agenda |
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pianohacker |
drojf: sorry, I don't think you'd like if I redistributed your soup with modification |
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drojf |
oh sure. it's free and open source soupware! |
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drojf |
pianohacker: as long as your enhancements go back into the community… |
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drojf |
in the light of recent events (there has been a discussion in germany whether girls are allowed to wear hot pants in school), i was wondering about our code of conduct. what exactly is "sexualized clothing/uniforms/costumes" and who is judging that? |
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drojf |
and how am i supposed to judge it if i host a hackfest |
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pianohacker |
drojf: wait, that's on the code of conduct? |
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drojf |
pianohacker: http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ |
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drojf |
first paragraph of the second version |
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bag |
drojf: each of us is a judge. it is for us to judge on what we are comfortable with? If we aren’t comfortable with something then we look to conference organizers for a place to find help? |
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* bag |
ok stepping out for a little bit |
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rangi |
morning |
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rangi |
drojf: its specifically referring to |
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drojf |
bag: yes, of course. and i'm sure they will be happy to help. i will be. but i wonder what i am supposed to answer when i announce an event and refer to the code of conduct and get asked that question. i am not sure what sexualized clothing is. sexualized by the person wearing it, or the person seeing it? and so on. given that is in the section for sponsors and booth staff, that may have a background that i am not aware of |
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rangi |
Booth staff (including volunteers) should not use sexualized clothing/uniforms/costumes, or otherwise create a sexualized environment. |
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rangi |
Booth staff |
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rangi |
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Booth_babes <-- it's to deal with this |
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rangi |
which shouldnt arise at any of our conferences, but if it does, at least we have a clause to deal with it |
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rangi |
so it's not what people decide to wear to attend the conference, it's what companies/organisations dress people in to sell services |
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rangi |
does that help? |
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drojf |
ok, i understand the background now, thanks. and no, i can hardly imagine that applying to any koha event, thankfully |
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rangi |
cool |
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drojf |
yes, a lot. thanks |
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rangi |
it suprisingly happens at some of the bigger library confernces |
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drojf |
i don't think it is a thing in germany. at least i hope so |
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rangi |
but no where to the extent it does at same, gaming or automobile, or gun ones |
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drojf |
oh yes i can imagine that |
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drojf |
i attend such things rarely ;) |
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rangi |
good choice :) |
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drojf |
heh |
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ibeardslee |
also part of the reason I stopped going to kickboxing fight nights .. ring girls rather than booth babes |
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rangi |
true |
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rangi |
drojf: did you get any replies to your kohacon email? |
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* drojf |
hides the plans for the "koha hackfest and gun nuts meeting" |
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drojf |
rangi: not yet |
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rangi |
hey nengard |
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wahanui |
nengard is the queen of documentation. |
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nengard |
hi there |
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nengard |
from oscon |
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drojf |
good night #koha |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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wizzyrea |
drojf I don't know, I'll have to look into it |
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cait |
wizzyrea: can you take a look at bug 14524 for 3.18 maybe? Tomas pushed it just today, but it would be nice to see it fixed |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14524 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Result list RSS feed broken |
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wizzyrea |
let me get caught up with bug updates and then I will have a look |
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cait |
sure thx :) |
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indradg |
wizzyrea++ |
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eythian |
hi |
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hello, eythian |
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hi eythian |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ |
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* Francesca |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
Hi Francesca :) |
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morning |
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whatsup |
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