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wahanui: we don't need no water |
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wahanui |
Are you CRAZY? The roof is ON FIRE! |
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eythian |
@later tell tcohen no, I have a better plan than that. |
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eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/re[…]aland/2015p305812 |
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friday fun |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait! |
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magnuse |
eythian++ for 3.18.6.1 |
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cait |
hi magnuse |
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hello |
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Oak |
eythian++ |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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Oak |
Guten morgen cait |
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Oak |
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Oak |
:) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
have to go - bbl |
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KotH |
good morning |
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KotH |
is there a way to dublicate a marc record? |
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* KotH |
has been looking but couldnt find anything |
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magnuse |
KotH: when you are on the "normal" detail view in the staff client, you can do... |
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magnuse |
Edit > Edit as new (duplicate) |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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magnuse |
bonjour sophie_m et alex_a |
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KotH |
*facepalm* |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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KotH |
i've been looking at that drop down box 10 times at least |
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KotH |
must be blind, or tired, or both |
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magnuse |
hidden in plain view :-) |
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KotH |
thanks, magnuse! |
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sophie_m |
hi magnuse, hi #koha |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 10.8°C (8:37 AM CEST on April 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 24, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
ice on the car this morning, snow showers yesterday |
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KotH |
sounds like perfectly fine summer weather |
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KotH |
just for the record: i really love koha and its simplicity to manage my own library! |
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KotH |
best tool i found |
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magnuse |
KotH: good to hear that :-) |
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KotH |
:-) |
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KotH |
i actually was surprised how simple koha is to use, given the fact that it was made for libraries and not for home users like me |
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KotH |
the only thing i still didnt get used to are the marc records |
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magnuse |
hehe, yeah that is the really weird part |
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magnuse |
my motto: MARC must die! |
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KotH |
heh |
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KotH |
i doubt it will |
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KotH |
at least not soon |
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KotH |
btw: is there any layman understandable introduction to marc? |
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magnuse |
dunno, maybe this? http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/ |
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* magnuse |
learned about marc in library school |
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* KotH |
never went to library school |
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KotH |
i've seen that site, but when i tried to read it, it didnt make much sense |
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KotH |
maybe i should try again |
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magnuse |
maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARC_standards for a really short intro? |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
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jajm |
hi all |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian paul_p jajm |
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jajm |
eythian, about the mojolicious package... won't it be acceptable to debian.koha-community.org ? |
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* cait |
waves |
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jajm |
hello magnuse cait |
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cait |
jajm: it's friday beer o clock in nz - i think maybe try a little earlier monday maybe |
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cait |
hm or tuesday, i think there is aholiday in nz on monday |
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jajm |
oh.. ok cait, thanks |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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cdickinson |
Monday is Anzac Day observed |
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drojf |
morning #koha |
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moin drojf |
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cait |
morning drojf :) |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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Hey #koha. |
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Viktor |
Greetings! |
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wahanui |
and beatings! |
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cait |
hi Viktor :) |
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Hi cait! |
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tcohen |
morning |
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cait |
morning tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
morning cait |
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tcohen |
@later tell eythian saw it |
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huginn` |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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gerundio |
hey mtompset |
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wahanui |
rumour has it mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry |
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mtompset |
Has anyone ever encountered a hash problem like: $key = 'bar'; if ($row->{$key} ne $row->{'bar'}) { print "what is going on?!"; } |
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mtompset |
Greetings gerundio. :) |
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gerundio |
mtompset, is everything ok with bug 14036 now? (I'm Rolando Isidoro) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14036 major, P5 - low, ---, rolando.isidoro, Signed Off , "Date::Calc::Add_Delta_YM(): not a valid date" error when accessing subscription detail |
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mtompset |
Not quite. |
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mtompset |
You didn't sign off properly. |
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mtompset |
Just like you didn't attach the patch correctly in the first place. |
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mtompset |
Do you have a git installation? |
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gerundio |
I performed a git checkout yes |
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mtompset |
Do you have git-bz installed? |
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gerundio |
nope |
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mtompset |
Okay, there is part of your problem. |
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mtompset |
Do you have a git so alias? |
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gerundio |
I talked to cait about the patch submission yesterday |
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gerundio |
I pushed the commit to the master branch |
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gerundio |
extracted a patch using git diff and attached it to one of my comments |
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mtompset |
You are doing it the "wrong" way. |
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gerundio |
I'm sure I am :D |
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mtompset |
Use git bz. It makes life much simpler. |
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mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
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tcohen |
mtompset: maybe you should take the quotes out |
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mtompset |
tcohen: I was being safe, in case I was wrong. :P |
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cait |
gerundio: you can also generate a patch file using: git format-patch HEAD^ |
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cait |
it has all the information git bz has too |
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cait |
but it's less convenient if you do it more often :) |
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cait |
way less |
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gerundio |
it's been a year (or more) since my last contribution to koha's git repository |
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gerundio |
I don't think I do it that often |
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mtompset |
So, gerundio, I was expecting.... git bz apply 14036\n ... testing ... git so 2\n git bz attach -e 14036 HEAD^^..HEAD |
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* chris_n |
wonders how we got along before git bz... :-P |
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mtompset |
I'm pretty sure git format-patch and git am's. :) |
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cait |
gerundio: or wget patch file... git am -iu3 patcfile ... testing ... git commit --amend -s ... git format-patch HEAD^ ... upload via gui |
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cait |
chris_n: it worked... but git-bz probably saved ym life witht he many 6+ patches bugs that end up in the qa queue |
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mtompset |
I hate large number of commits for a patch, but sometimes smaller means easier step by step sign offs. |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14030: DBRev 3.19.00.030 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1fbf22af38e48616b> / Bug 14030 - Added tests for duplicates. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9afad01dea1a4b6b1> / Bug 14030: Add Georgian language and fix Kannada language code <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iff;h=a91dad2b031 |
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mtompset |
tcohen: have you ever encountered a hash problem like: $key = 'bar'; if ($row->{$key} ne $row->{'bar'}) { print "what is going on?!"; } |
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tcohen |
no |
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magnuse |
mtompset: works for me |
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tcohen |
i did some experiments a couple minutes back |
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tcohen |
and it works for me |
| 13:09 |
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tcohen |
you should stop using perl on window$ |
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mtompset |
So you have it print something?! |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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tcohen |
id doesn't print, because they are eq |
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mtompset |
Because I'm trying to make sense of this kind of problem with the inventory. |
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mtompset |
I looked at my output and the original output.... |
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mtompset |
and thought, "Why does withdrawn say 0?!" |
| 13:10 |
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mtompset |
It should say text. |
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mtompset |
And for some strange reason, I'm getting the equivalent of printing. |
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mtompset |
because for some reason $row->{$key} is handing the value of the first key in the hash. |
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mtompset |
which because of randomness, may or may not be the proper key. |
| 13:15 |
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tcohen |
so it is broken by design |
| 13:15 |
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tcohen |
because you sould always know your key :-D |
| 13:16 |
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tcohen |
whne is the next general meeting held? |
| 13:16 |
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mtompset |
tcohen: That's the annoying part. I do know the key. |
| 13:17 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14030: (RM followup) fix copypasta blooper <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fce120bdc1a8e5775> / Bug 13992: Software error in reports if field or table does not exist <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9d69c17d2c79997ff> |
| 13:24 |
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gerundio |
I can't connect to koha's git repository using port 9418 |
| 13:24 |
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gerundio |
when I try to clone git-bz I get this error message: "fatal: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]-bz.git/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?" |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
how did your git clone look like? |
| 13:24 |
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gerundio |
that messages occurs when I try to clone using http |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
did you use http:// or git:// |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
i think we only allow git:// |
| 13:25 |
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gerundio |
git clone http://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git |
| 13:25 |
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cait |
replace http:// with git:// |
| 13:25 |
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gerundio |
getting koha using git? |
| 13:25 |
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gerundio |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Koha_using_Git |
| 13:25 |
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gerundio |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Cloning_over_HTTP |
| 13:25 |
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cait |
just try it? ;) |
| 13:25 |
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gerundio |
I was able to clone koha.git via http |
| 13:26 |
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cait |
git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone |
| 13:26 |
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cait |
see here it's there too |
| 13:26 |
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cait |
git:// |
| 13:26 |
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gerundio |
but cloning git-bz is throwing that error |
| 13:26 |
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gerundio |
shouldn't it be possible to? |
| 13:26 |
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mtompset |
You should try git first. |
| 13:27 |
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cait |
did you try git clone git://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git git-bz |
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gerundio |
cait, mtompset yes |
| 13:27 |
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cait |
what's the error? |
| 13:27 |
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gerundio |
our firewall is blocking connections to port 9418 |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
not sure how to get it then to be honest - not sure we mirror git bz to github |
| 13:28 |
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gerundio |
I can't telnet git.koha-community.org 9418 |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
or another repo |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 13:28 |
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gerundio |
the weird thing is I got the koha.git repo just fine via http |
| 13:29 |
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mtj_ |
https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify |
| 13:29 |
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gerundio |
does the git-bz.git repo have different setting? |
| 13:29 |
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mtj_ |
hi all |
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mtj_ |
gerundio: try that? ^ |
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mtj_ |
ah, oops sorry, your'e after git-bz |
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mtj_ |
hmm, github version is a bit old :/ |
| 13:31 |
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mtj_ |
its not mirrored properly |
| 13:33 |
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mtj_ |
i really need to head to bed :0) |
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mtompset |
Not sure, gerundio. |
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* magnuse |
wanders off to make pizza - have fun #koha! |
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mtompset |
Ah ha! Found the annoying inventory bug. |
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nengard |
mtompset just one? |
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nengard |
there are a few |
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mtompset |
nengard: The one I was hunting. |
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mtompset |
withdrawn = 0 |
| 14:12 |
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mtompset |
Why display 0?! |
| 14:12 |
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nengard |
LOL |
| 14:13 |
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mtompset |
bug 14061 if you care to sign off. ;) |
| 14:13 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14061 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Inventory fails to map withdrawn authorized values |
| 14:14 |
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cait |
tcohen: do we have working packages now? |
| 14:14 |
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cait |
and is the fix in git? |
| 14:15 |
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mtompset |
That's what Robin said in the email. I would assume do. :) |
| 14:15 |
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mtompset |
^do^so^ |
| 14:15 |
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cait |
hm but doesn't look like it's in git |
| 14:16 |
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cait |
mtompset: we build our own... i need to know how to fix it |
| 14:16 |
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mtompset |
cait: I'll be having the same problem shortly. Let me know when you figure that out. :) |
| 14:20 |
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tcohen |
cait: not yet, busy right now |
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mtompset |
nengard: Do you still see 0 in withdrawn?! |
| 14:21 |
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nengard |
yes |
| 14:21 |
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nengard |
attached an image |
| 14:21 |
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nengard |
just now |
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nengard |
i cleared cache too |
| 14:21 |
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mtompset |
Did you check your authorised_values? |
| 14:22 |
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mtompset |
perhaps it put 0 in the description? |
| 14:22 |
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nengard |
nope |
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nengard |
all i have is value =1 and description = withdrawn |
| 14:22 |
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nengard |
it's a clean db |
| 14:25 |
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mtompset |
If you add 0 to the WITHDRAWN authorized value as blank, it will be correct. If it doesn't have a mapping, it doesn't map it. |
| 14:25 |
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mtompset |
Or even "This was zero" as the description. |
| 14:29 |
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nengard |
mtompset but there isn't a 0 in the default koha db install - so people will always see 0 ... that said i'll go ahead an add it and see |
| 14:29 |
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mtompset |
thanks, perhaps there should be a 0 added to the default as well then. |
| 14:29 |
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mtompset |
because 0 and 1 are values that will occur normally. |
| 14:30 |
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nengard |
it didn't work ... |
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nengard |
i added a 0 authorized value with a blank description and I still see 0 ... hmmm |
| 14:30 |
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mtompset |
screen shot of your authorized values for WITHDRAWN would be helpful. |
| 14:33 |
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nengard |
done :) |
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mtompset |
That's what I would expect to generate blank. |
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nengard |
i promise it's not :( i can try again |
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mtompset |
I believe you. Code doesn't always run the same for everyone. |
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mtompset |
Okay... try the negative test... look for withdrawn books. |
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mtompset |
before patch 1, after patch Withdrawn. |
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nengard |
mtompset okay new image attached - both before and after the patch I see 1 instead of 'withdrawn' |
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nengard |
I did a fresh pull before applying your patch and the patch applied cleanly |
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nengard |
sorry :( |
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nengard |
maybe we need another tester to see if it's just my system, but I did a fresh install of my system at the hackfest because my old test was so full of crap :) |
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nengard |
so it's relatively new |
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mtompset |
No... I have one more idea. :) |
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mtompset |
New patch coming... there is another place. :) |
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mtompset |
If this fails... I'm comfused. :) |
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mtompset |
confused, even. :) |
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nengard |
LOL |
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mtompset |
I very much appreciate your testing, even if it ends up not working for you. |
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nengard |
got another question while mtompset works on that - anyone know what permission you need to be able to edit serial frequencies? I have a user with all serial permissions who can't do the editing - was there a bug about this? |
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mtompset |
nengard: Are you running on plack or something like that? |
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nengard |
nope |
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nengard |
out of the box install - nothing fancy |
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* mtompset |
shrugs. |
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mtompset |
Try again, one last time. :) |
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mtompset |
New patch is up. |
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mtompset |
If your withdrawn mapped to something other than 952$0? |
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nengard |
will check the mapping and then apply the patch |
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nengard |
:( |
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nengard |
don't want to share my results |
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mtompset |
Sorry to hear. |
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mtompset |
Okay... I'm going to fresh install from scratch and test... because this is weird. |
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nengard |
anyone know what permission you need to be able to edit serial frequencies? I have a user with all serial permissions who can't do the editing - was there a bug about this? |
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oliver_ |
hi |
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cait |
koha version? |
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cait |
version number? |
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wahanui |
version number is set to 3.03.032 |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
hi oliver_ |
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cait |
nengard: which version? |
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wahanui |
i heard which version was recommended? |
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cait |
nengard: some early version after the new serials it was admin - should be changed now to serials |
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cait |
nengard: do we have a text explaining the version number? thoughtthere was something on the website but can't find it |
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mtompset |
nengard: What OS? Debian? |
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oliver_ |
I have a question regarding required fields in MARC frameworks that have an authorized value constraint: why is always the first value selected, despite an empty default value? can this be fixed? |
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oliver_ |
specifically: 952c |
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oliver_ |
so this is about items, not the record |
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mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
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mtompset |
Sorry, wasn't pay attention to the question. :) |
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oliver_ |
:-) |
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nengard |
sorry was on the phone |
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nengard |
cait 3.16.10 i think |
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cait |
oliver_: hm, i thin it selects the alphabetically first |
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oliver_ |
IMHO, defining mandatory field *and* preselecting an undefined default is not a good idea as a wrong value will get saved |
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cait |
and offers no empty option for mandatory, is that possible? |
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nengard |
mtompset yes debian |
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mtompset |
squeeze, wheezy, jessie? |
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nengard |
um ... hehe |
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nengard |
wait -mine for your bug or the serial permission issue? |
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nengard |
mine is wheezy |
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cait |
nengard: which koha version? |
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wahanui |
which koha version is that? |
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cait |
i think mtompset is on the wrong path :) |
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mtompset |
separate thread, yes. |
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Joubu |
what cait said, confirmed |
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nengard |
cait the serial permission issue is 3.16.04.000 |
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nengard |
mtompset mine is on master |
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Joubu |
the empty entry is only displayed if the field is not mandatory |
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mtompset |
so master, debian, wheezy... got it... |
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cait |
nengard: try giving admin perm... if it works ... that's it |
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cait |
bug 11226 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11226 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Working with serials now requires admin (parameters) permission |
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nengard |
yes, superlibrairna permission works - but we don't want to give htis person that permission |
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nengard |
okay |
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oliver_ |
cait: yes, it selects the first value but that is bad when the field is mandatory. the whole point of a mandatory field is to enfore an explicit choice |
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nengard |
thanks - i'll share that bug |
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cait |
hm it's supposed to be fixed with 3.16.2 |
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cait |
full serial permissions... ohoh |
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cait |
nengard: doyou really have all all checkboxes checked there? for serials? |
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cait |
even superserials and the like? |
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nengard |
cait - checking - that's what they told me |
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oliver_ |
cait: granted, the field has a red label for new items but hitting save will store the preselected/first authorized value which is most likely wrong |
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cait |
oliver_: i agree, it's not a very good behaviour |
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cait |
it would be good to have it reported |
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oliver_ |
cait: I'd consider this a bug if there isn't a setting to change that behavior. |
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oliver_ |
cait: ok, I couldn't think of me being the first ever stumbling such a central thing |
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gerundio |
mtompset, I'm trying to sign off your tests patch from bug 14036 |
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nengard |
so cait, all boxes are checked, but no the serial box - so i'm telling her to make that change and try again |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14036 major, P5 - low, ---, rolando.isidoro, Signed Off , "Date::Calc::Add_Delta_YM(): not a valid date" error when accessing subscription detail |
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Joubu |
191 push @authorised_values, "" unless ( $subfieldlib->{mandatory} ); |
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gerundio |
running prove t/db_dependent/Serials/GetNextDate.t before applying your patch works as expected |
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gerundio |
after applying your patch I get a "Dubious, test returned 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00) |
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gerundio |
Failed 88/88 subtests " error message |
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gerundio |
I'm not sure this is the "bomb horribly" you mention |
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mtompset |
? |
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gerundio |
after applying the other patch the result is the same |
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* mtompset |
sighs. |
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mtompset |
Okay... I've scrolled back and read. |
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gerundio |
given the dependency on bug 13109 I also tried running the tests after applying the patch for that bug too |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13109 major, P3, ---, mtj, Passed QA , Serial failure for received and general viewing |
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mtompset |
1) Did you 'git pull' to make sure your master you were up to do? |
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gerundio |
yes |
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mtompset |
2) What steps did you use after you were sure you were current? |
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cait |
nengard_phone: that could be it |
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Joubu |
oliver_: the behavior exists since the "beginning" (2006), if you have good arguments, you can open a new bug report. It will be very easy to submit a fix. |
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cait |
nengard_phone: just in case...tell them to log out and back in |
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Joubu |
have to go, have a good w-e #koha |
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nengard_phone |
will do ciat |
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cait |
you too Joubu |
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mtompset |
Bye, Joubu |
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gerundio |
mtompset, I followed the instructions in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
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gerundio |
manually |
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mtompset |
gerundio: I want you to tell me everything you typed. |
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gerundio |
downloaded 3 patches |
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mtompset |
Because that is a bunch of instructions that I don't know that you did correctly. |
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oliver_ |
Joubu: ok, that's interesting. will do |
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gerundio |
1 from bug 13109 and 2 from bug 14036 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14036 major, P5 - low, ---, rolando.isidoro, Signed Off , "Date::Calc::Add_Delta_YM(): not a valid date" error when accessing subscription detail |
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gerundio |
created a new branch for testing purposes |
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mtompset |
Okay, manually downloaded patches. |
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mtompset |
created new branch |
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mtompset |
git am'd them all 13109 first? |
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gerundio |
applyed patch from the 13109 |
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gerundio |
them attachment 38467 |
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huginn` |
Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]38467&action=edit patch, Bug 14036 - GetNextDate.t lacking test cases., Bug-14036---GetNextDatet-lacking-test-cases.patch |
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gerundio |
ran tests which failed with the message I mentioned above |
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gerundio |
applied patch 38468 and ran tests again |
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gerundio |
still fail with the same message |
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oliver_ |
I have another, more general question: what's the purpose of specifying the classification source? purely informational or does that influence some functionality? related: what does the "Classification filing rule Sorting routine" "generic" do? |
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mtompset |
Seriously?! |
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mtompset |
paste? |
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wahanui |
paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
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mtompset |
Could you please paste a git diff origin/master there? |
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oliver_ |
background: we use a combination of MCS/PACS and I created a custom source and filing rule (based on generic) for it - I just wonder what the actual effect might be :-) |
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oliver_ |
... since you can't really customize anything |
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cait |
oliver_: it affects how the sort form of your callnumber is generated |
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cait |
it hink if you use something custom you made a good first step by defining your own based on z - that's what we do too |
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cait |
there are specific scripts for ddc and loc |
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oliver_ |
cait: that's what I thought. so what's the meaning of "generic" in that case? full call number sorted alphanum? |
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cait |
if you have saved a few items, check for the items.cn_sort column |
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cait |
it will have the 'sortable' generated form |
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cait |
i think alphanum yes |
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cait |
but I haven't done a lot of testing there |
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mtompset |
gerundio: Could you paste a git diff origin/master at http://paste.koha-community.org? |
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oliver_ |
cait: yep, noticed that field already. ok, will do |
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cait |
you could write your own sorting algorithm by writing a script and then changing the sorting rule in the config |
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oliver_ |
cait: where is this sorting applied? mainly for the shelf browser? |
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oliver_ |
cait: I see, a guess how to get that script into the list of available sorting routines is different question :-) |
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pastebot |
"gerundio" at 193.136.124.225 pasted "Bug 14036 sign off patches" (176 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/63 |
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gerundio |
mtompset, I pasted the full procedure |
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gerundio |
the git diff is at the end |
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cait |
oliver_: i think you can also use it in reports |
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mtompset |
As far as I can tell, this is an unrelated bug. |
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cait |
oliver_: might be enough to save the file in the right place :) |
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mtompset |
line 2468 in C4/Serials does not reference the publisheddate. |
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mtompset |
The if condition attempted to compare and increment things. |
| 15:51 |
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mtompset |
make sure your issuesperunit value is set for your subscription. |
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mtompset |
Don't ask me how, because that I do not know. |
| 15:52 |
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mtompset |
But your subscription data is probably not filled out fully. |
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oliver_ |
cait: ok, now to my final question for today: is it possible to add a tag (and its subfields!) to a MARC framework as it already exists, say, in the default framework without basing the new framework on the default one (then deleting 90% of the unneeded tags) |
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oliver_ |
example: what's the easiest way to add 520 (summary) and all its subfields to the "fast add" framework? |
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cait |
oliver_: try using the export options - to tods |
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cait |
ods for example |
| 15:54 |
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cait |
that#s the easisest way for batch edits |
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cait |
you will still want to base it on default... but hide fields you don't want to use maybe |
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cait |
there are a lot of things marc21 is unhappy without that you shoudl be careful wit - or also koha, like the 999 and 942/52 fields |
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oliver_ |
cait: hm, sounds cumbersome. I would have expected a feature that allows you to pick single tags from the default framework "pool". would make things much easier |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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oliver_ |
cait: exactly that's the reason why any manual interaction (copy/paste via ods) should be avoided IMHO |
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cait |
oliver_: be aware that koha will delete everything that is not in your framework |
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oliver_ |
cait: delete from where? |
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wahanui |
delete from is probably slower, but works on all versions of MySQL/MariaDB. |
| 15:57 |
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cait |
so if you download a record, and forgot to add a field or subfield, on saving they will be deleted |
| 15:57 |
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oliver_ |
cait: sure |
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cait |
that's why it's more recommended to hide fields from the editor instead of deleting them |
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mtompset |
gerundio: So, did you try fixing all your subscriptions? :) |
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oliver_ |
cait: ok, but sounds like a nightmare to create new slim framework based on the default one and then clicking through 90% of the tags in order to hide them (example: doctoral theses with just a handful of tags) |
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cait |
that's why i recommended exproting and reimporting - it's the easisest way apart from sql update |
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cait |
i have to leave - spanish class |
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oliver_ |
cait: will look into it. |
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cait |
bye all :) |
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gerundio |
mtompset, I'll get back to you asap |
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oliver_ |
cait: thanks, as always |
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cait |
np |
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cait |
sorry to run off |
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mtompset |
ARG! Perhaps I didn't have current master. |
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gerundio |
mtompset, was your last comment about our topic? |
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mtompset |
gerundio: In part, but it doesn't affect anything. My tests run the same still even after update. |
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mtompset |
Wow. This git clone is failing to happen. |
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gerundio |
well, I'm off for the weekend |
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gerundio |
I'll pick it up next Monday |
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gerundio |
thanks for all the help |
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mtompset |
Enjoy. Sorry you couldn't get the same results. |
| 17:03 |
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gerundio |
have a nice weekend everyone |
| 17:10 |
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mtompset |
Well, I guess I killed it. Can someone kick git.koha-community.org? |
| 17:13 |
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mtompset |
Just 150ish away from finished the compressing. NOOOOOOOOO! Git clone why are you hanging on me like this? |
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mtompset |
Who do I have to give money to upgrade git.koha-community.org so it doesn't do this? :) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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mtompset |
Greetings, druthb |
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druthb |
hiyas. |
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mtompset |
Did you see my facebook update? |
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mtompset |
I'm very frustrated right now. |
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druthb |
I did. Well, if you'd stop breaking stuff... |
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mtompset |
I can't do a full git clone. |
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mtompset |
So, I just tried: git clone -b master --single-branch git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone |
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mtompset |
AND still ... |
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nengard |
hola |
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wahanui |
what's up, nengard |
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mtompset |
I'm hating the last 1%. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, nengard. :) |
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nengard |
:) |
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mtompset |
with all this pain trying to do a regular git install, I can see why people want to gitify. |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
I love my git install ... |
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nengard |
but i didn't install it |
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nengard |
hehe |
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mtompset |
trying to do a git install from SCRATCH... just to confirm everything is truly default. |
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mtompset |
Sucky. Even a router reboot didn't help. :( |
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* mtompset |
grumbles about his virtualbox. |
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nengard |
:( |
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mtompset |
I think it was my virtualbox NAT failing me. |
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mtompset |
Okay, git-bz cloned, qa-test-tools cloned, koha almost cloned. |
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mtompset |
Progress... finally. |
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nengard |
awesome mtompset |
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mtompset |
I really should eat lunch. :) |
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mtompset |
nengard: have you ever tried a sandbox? |
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nengard |
not with your patch, but yes |
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cait |
wnickc++ |
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cait: what did I do? |
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cait |
thx for retesting relatives checkouts :) |
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wnickc |
ah yes |
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wnickc |
I was keeping my fingers crossed |
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cait |
it sure has proven to be a bit of a difficult one |
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wnickc |
yeah |
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nengard |
wnickc got any more xslt patches to sign off on?? hehe |
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wnickc |
nengard: I did go after those pretty hard :) |
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nengard |
i loved it!!! |
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wnickc |
I wanted 'em in |
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nengard |
I want them all in 3.20 |
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nengard |
not sure they'll make it though |
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nengard |
they're just template changes - so maybe |
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wnickc |
oh, that reminds me, one needs a comment |
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wnickc |
5 pushed so far is pretty good |
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wnickc |
bug 13734 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13734 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wsalesky, Failed QA , RDA: Display 33xs |
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wnickc |
I was waiting to see if anyone else had thoughts on the separators, but I am happy with Winona's solution |
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cait |
i asked drojf to take a look - he said the 2 missing are in fqa |
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nengard |
I like it wnickc |
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cait |
i think next we need to change the indexing |
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cait |
especically pudate |
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cait |
pubdate |
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nengard |
YES |
| 20:21 |
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nengard |
but the problem is that no one is updating old records |
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cait |
and i have no idea how to solve the mappings... probably we can't - or we map the old to copyrightdate and the new to publicationyear |
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nengard |
so we need 260 and 264 |
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cait |
unimarc uses the latter currently... and a lot of the displays look at both |
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nengard |
oh - so that's good |
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cait |
not all of them, but it's the best that came to my mind so far |
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nengard |
i figured we needed to do the koha to marc mapping |
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cait |
making it possible to map to mulitple fields is probably much harder to do |
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nengard |
and wasn't sure what to map 264 to |
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cait |
publicationyear might be an option |
| 20:23 |
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cait |
some of the displays display whatever is filled... other look for marcflavour - but that would not be hard to change |
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wnickc |
I always use the 008 for dates when running reports, consistent across AACR/RDA, and more often filled correctly |
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cait |
makes sense |
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cait |
it seems some libraries don#t have those tho - and we use the other fields for display in a lot of places |
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cait |
bit messy overall |
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wnickc |
I blame the standards for doubling up on info and moving things that don't need ot be moved |
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wnickc |
librarians, we like to complicate things |
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nengard |
yup!! |
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nengard |
who thought we needed a new field for this info - it makes no sense |
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wnickc |
but how will you know we are moving forward if the numbers don't change, 264 is 4 more than 260 |
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wnickc |
onward and upward! |
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nengard |
:p |
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heh |
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ARG... 403 error on a fresh git install. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, indradg. |
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mtompset |
Any clues on what apache tweaks are necessary for a fresh git install? |
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mtompset |
I'm getting a 403. |
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@whoami |
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bag: I don't recognize you. |
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@whoami |
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wahanui |
24601! |
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bag: bag |
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:D |
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hi |
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tcohen |
eythian: around? |
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tcohen |
night #koha |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10423: Show date due with time if it's a hourly loan <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0dd3b9a33048db13d> / Bug 10971: Hide EAN search for MARC21 / template corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15c4e86069c7861e0> / Bug 14055: remove symlink that breaks upgrades <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko |
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tcohen |
@later tell paul_p can anyone at biblibre check the SMTP server installed on the jenkins server? if you look at the output of failed test you will notice some misconfiguration on the SMTP server |
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tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
@later tell paul_p for example: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ter_D8/17/console |
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tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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