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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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fridolin |
hie |
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marcelr |
hi fridolin |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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Joubu |
hello #koha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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magnuse |
just one week to go now! |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 5.4°C (9:01 AM CET on February 23, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait and Viktor |
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Viktor |
Kia ora Magnuse! And greetings all of #koha |
| 08:12 |
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cait |
good mroning all |
| 08:14 |
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magnuse |
so, did the main performance stuff make it into 3.18.4? |
| 08:14 |
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cait |
not sure, i think not yet |
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cait |
not sure what is in master yet either |
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magnuse |
bug 13690 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13690 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Koha::Schema should be lazy-loaded |
| 08:16 |
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magnuse |
i *think* that is the main one |
| 08:16 |
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magnuse |
"Pushed to 3.18.x will be in 3.18.4" |
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cait |
i think that made it |
| 08:17 |
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magnuse |
bug 13645 "Holding for 3.18.5, I need to test this more." |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13645 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , DBIx connection needs to be cached |
| 08:20 |
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* magnuse |
goes to upgrade his "test" server |
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magnuse |
ah, no packages yet |
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* magnuse |
delays that upgrade |
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* magnuse |
tries to not nag eythian |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour gaetan_B |
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gaetan_B |
hi magnuse, ready for the cheese ? |
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magnuse |
gaetan_B: yup, really starting to look forward to the whole thing! |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
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ashimema |
morning koha |
| 09:22 |
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ashimema |
in response to your later magnuse.. |
| 09:23 |
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ashimema |
though I won't be making marseille myself, Alex S will be going and he's the one whose been doing all the ILL work.. |
| 09:23 |
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ashimema |
I'll get him to walk you through it.. it's shifted and changed allot throughout proceedings as we've learnt stuff.. |
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magnuse |
very cool |
| 09:23 |
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ashimema |
so i'm a bit out of the loop on it at the minute i'm afraid |
| 09:24 |
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magnuse |
no worries |
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* ashimema |
is bitter that he can't get to hackfest.. |
| 09:24 |
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ashimema |
next year |
| 09:24 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
| 09:24 |
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ashimema |
there's awlays next year. |
| 09:24 |
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magnuse |
was it the passport thing? |
| 09:24 |
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ashimema |
unless anyone wants to organise another one a bit later in th eyear ;) |
| 09:24 |
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ashimema |
yup |
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ashimema |
that and the daughter.. was a mix of not easily being able to get the passport back in time and feeling I sohuld stick around here to help the misses with our few week old daughter still at that point ;) |
| 09:26 |
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magnuse |
infants are perfectly good reasons for staying at home! :-) |
| 09:26 |
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magnuse |
you will be missed, though |
| 09:26 |
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ashimema |
I hope to join in allot online though.. just means I can't easily join in the group discussions and the evening entertainments ;( |
| 09:26 |
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magnuse |
and the cheese! |
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wahanui |
the cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter. |
| 09:26 |
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ashimema |
:) |
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magnuse |
ooh, lucky cait |
| 09:27 |
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ashimema |
lucky cait? |
| 09:27 |
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ashimema |
oh.. lol.. just spotted it |
| 09:28 |
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ashimema |
Cash Management is flying along now.. we wen't live with it two fridays back for a big public customer.. |
| 09:28 |
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ashimema |
been ironing out bugs ever since.. |
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magnuse |
nice |
| 09:28 |
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ashimema |
it'll be a nice one to submit once I'm happy it's all working. |
| 09:28 |
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magnuse |
hehe, putting things in production do tend to highlight the bugs, yes |
| 09:29 |
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ashimema |
indeed it does.. goes against my better judgment.. but they had a desperate timeline and were willingto take the fallout |
| 09:29 |
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ashimema |
it did highlight how bad the accounts stuff is in koha though.. and how the re-wrtie didn't actually seem to make anything any better |
| 09:30 |
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ashimema |
I really want to do an alternative re-write now :( |
| 09:30 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: how bad is the accounts stuff? |
| 09:30 |
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ashimema |
all our stuff is based on the original. |
| 09:30 |
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ashimema |
the original stuff is madelning |
| 09:30 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: lot of the original stuff is maddening :) |
| 09:30 |
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kivilahtio |
this... is... KOHAAA! |
| 09:31 |
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ashimema |
it's crazyhow many overlapping subs there are in C4::Accounts |
| 09:31 |
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ashimema |
there's simply no need for so many.. |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: In two years ill help you refactor somehting :) |
| 09:32 |
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ashimema |
haha.. |
| 09:32 |
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* magnuse |
makes a note of that promise |
| 09:32 |
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kivilahtio |
I am currently refactoring the overdues module |
| 09:32 |
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ashimema |
I can't say I like Kyles re-write either.. he did it ages ago now and it's grown into a monster over the years.. and it shows |
| 09:32 |
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kivilahtio |
rewriting the overdue letter rules and sending subsystems to an sane OO-model |
| 09:32 |
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kivilahtio |
from the scratch :) |
| 09:32 |
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ashimema |
oooh.. cool.. |
| 09:33 |
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ashimema |
that's pretty much exactly the route I'm hoping to take with accounts.. |
| 09:33 |
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ashimema |
our cash man stuff is all nice OO.. |
| 09:33 |
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kivilahtio |
we need to send overdues only on tuesdays, and the current Koha model doesnät really work very well like that. |
| 09:33 |
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ashimema |
so it should sit nicely atop an accounts OO module when we slot it in :) |
| 09:33 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: you should ask and discuss before any refactoring... :) |
| 09:33 |
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kivilahtio |
I made some crappy hacks on to of the message_queue but that sucked so bad and eventually the module I wrote broke, but now I have toime for a proper rewrite |
| 09:33 |
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ashimema |
deffo.. speak out about refactor kivi.. |
| 09:33 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I will share the code this week |
| 09:33 |
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ashimema |
get everyone singing from the same hym sheet |
| 09:34 |
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ashimema |
we're really bad at that as a community |
| 09:34 |
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kivilahtio |
If I had a committee for everything, I wouldnt have even started :) |
| 09:34 |
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kivilahtio |
and what is the point of committeering about, if there is nothing done? |
| 09:34 |
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kivilahtio |
its just empty talk |
| 09:34 |
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ashimema |
I was less thinking committee.. more thinking talk out to a few key devs and get their support on a method ;) or at least their agreement not to overlap in scope ;) |
| 09:35 |
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kivilahtio |
you can scrap my commits, that is for you as a community tyo decide |
| 09:35 |
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kivilahtio |
but I need to solve our overdue issues and I am trying to do it in as extendable fashion as I can |
| 09:35 |
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Joubu |
It has been proved that when people work alone and arrive with "look at that, it's amazing, I did it!", it does no really work |
| 09:35 |
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ashimema |
coolios |
| 09:35 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I agree, but somebody can use my work as a basis |
| 09:36 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: and I don't have time to solve other peoples issues atm. |
| 09:36 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: for instance there are already someone working on overdues |
| 09:36 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: I didn't see any commits in hte bugzilla? |
| 09:36 |
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kivilahtio |
ot open bugs |
| 09:36 |
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magnuse |
yeah, early warnings are good because 1) it decreases the risk of your work getting shot down when you think you are done with it 2) because it decreases the chance that people work on the same things in paralell |
| 09:37 |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: If his approach is better I am happy to srap my code |
| 09:37 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: bug 9296 |
| 09:37 |
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wahanui |
bug 9296 is mine but that's less radical |
| 09:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9296 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , overduerules table needs restructuring to allow future extension |
| 09:37 |
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kivilahtio |
well see. thanks for the bug! |
| 09:55 |
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cait |
kivilahtio: about overdues... i think you run into conflicts with inlibro's work there :( |
| 09:56 |
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cait |
there are rfcs for the work on the wiki |
| 09:57 |
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cait |
and some first patches on bugzilla |
| 09:57 |
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cait |
just a warning - you might run into each other there badly |
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andreashm |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi andreashm |
| 10:03 |
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andreashm |
hey cait |
| 10:03 |
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cait |
kivilahtio: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]otice_Enhancement |
| 10:03 |
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cait |
andreashm: one week now to Marseille :) |
| 10:04 |
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andreashm |
I know. Getting close! |
| 10:05 |
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andreashm |
I hope that overdue notice improvment is progressing nicely. We would like it to happen too! =) |
| 10:07 |
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cait |
andreashm: there has been some first patches from inlibro on bugzilla, but haven' thad a chance to take a closer look |
| 10:07 |
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cait |
just warning kivilahtio - I think he wants to rewrite it too - so might be good to know about each others efforts |
| 10:07 |
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andreashm |
is there anything that is preferable to install on my computer (mac) for the hackfest? As a librarian, not a developer. |
| 10:08 |
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cait |
hm generally having a koha is good |
| 10:08 |
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cait |
there are sandboxes - but they are a bit limited in testing |
| 10:08 |
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cait |
i have heard good things about koha-dev-box |
| 10:08 |
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cait |
magnuse: ? |
| 10:08 |
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andreashm |
I'm tempted to install the koha dev-box |
| 10:08 |
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cait |
i thnk it would be worth a try |
| 10:09 |
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ashimema |
koha dev-box is great :) |
| 10:09 |
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andreashm |
looked at that last night but didn't get around to it before bedtime |
| 10:09 |
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ashimema |
depends how technical a librarian you are ;) |
| 10:09 |
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andreashm |
I've just added an account to bugzilla too, for that. |
| 10:09 |
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ashimema |
sandboxes are good for lots of more basic patches.. dev-box is a step up to allow testing of some of the more complex ones :) |
| 10:10 |
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andreashm |
ashimema: not that tech. skilled... but I try, and fail a lot. =) |
| 10:10 |
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cait |
important bit is that you try :) |
| 10:11 |
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cait |
and we can help you with the first steps |
| 10:11 |
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cait |
might be a good opportunity to figure things out |
| 10:11 |
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andreashm |
cait: sounds great |
| 10:11 |
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cait |
< is a librarian too |
| 10:17 |
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* ashimema |
started off knowing very little about libraries |
| 10:22 |
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* magnuse |
is a librarian too |
| 10:22 |
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magnuse |
andreashm: feedback on how you usable https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox is is always welcome :-) |
| 10:22 |
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magnuse |
s/you// |
| 10:24 |
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andreashm |
just cloned the git. now to figure out what I need to do in the config files. |
| 10:54 |
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* magnuse |
needs lunch |
| 11:11 |
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* andreashm |
too |
| 11:13 |
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cait |
hi khall |
| 11:13 |
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khall |
mornin! |
| 11:13 |
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cait |
when do you arrive on sunday? |
| 11:22 |
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khall |
cait: not sure, I'll have to look it up |
| 11:37 |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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tcohen |
morning |
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tcohen |
@later tell rangi thanks, I think it was because master was incoherently failing too much |
| 12:50 |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
morning tcohen :) |
| 12:52 |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
| 12:52 |
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tcohen |
just saw your later |
| 12:53 |
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cait |
it's alright - Joubu fixed it :) |
| 12:53 |
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cait |
Joubu++ again |
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tcohen |
Joubu++ |
| 13:06 |
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cait |
tcohen: did we set a date for the next dev meeting? |
| 13:06 |
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tcohen |
we havent |
| 13:06 |
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cait |
i have added soething to the possible topics yesterday and wondered |
| 13:10 |
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tcohen |
yes i was thinking of two things to discuss |
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* magnuse |
waves to tcohen and looks forward to meeting him |
| 13:18 |
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* tcohen |
too ! |
| 13:20 |
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* tcohen |
has stuff to finish before leaving argentina |
| 13:22 |
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magnuse |
finish all the stuff! |
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magnuse |
tcohen: when do you leave again? |
| 13:22 |
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tcohen |
thrusday |
| 13:23 |
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tcohen |
actually wednesday night to buenos aires, rest and leave country by thursday |
| 13:25 |
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magnuse |
nice |
| 13:26 |
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magnuse |
you'll have some time to adjust to the timezone before it all starts |
| 13:26 |
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magnuse |
get to know marseille a bit |
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* magnuse |
hates the yearly reporting of official statistics |
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magnuse |
sorry to scare you off Viktor ;-) |
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cait |
hmmm |
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cait |
i am trying to build a short title info with concat and marcxml... |
| 13:47 |
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cait |
but if one of the fields is not there it doesn't seem to work |
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magnuse |
hm? |
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cait |
concat( |
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cait |
ExtractValue(marcxml,'//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="a"]'), |
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cait |
" ", |
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cait |
ExtractValue(marcxml,'//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="b"]'), |
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cait |
" ", |
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cait |
ExtractValue(marcxml,'//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="c"]'), |
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cait |
" ; ", |
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cait |
copyrightdate |
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cait |
) |
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cait |
something like this |
| 13:48 |
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tcohen |
cait: you should consider using COALESCE at some point |
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tcohen |
COALESCE(ExtractValue...,"") |
| 13:49 |
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tcohen |
because CONCAT would fail on NULL values me thinks |
| 13:49 |
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tcohen |
so, COALESCE (i.e. NULL => second parameter, "" in this case) |
| 13:49 |
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cait |
hmmm but i don't want a fallback |
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cait |
aah |
| 13:50 |
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cait |
i see |
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cait |
let me try that :) |
| 13:50 |
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cait |
thx! |
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cait |
tcohen++ it works :) |
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tcohen |
ashimema: we definitely want to move business logic into Koha:: |
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ashimema |
:) |
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ashimema |
glad you agree tcohen :) |
| 14:01 |
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* cait |
just wants all the checks in one central place |
| 14:01 |
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cait |
which is i think what the 2 of you are saying :) |
| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
yup.. |
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cait |
so we all agree - nice :) |
| 14:02 |
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Joubu |
I think everybody agrees, and for a long time |
| 14:02 |
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ashimema |
I'd like to see that point moving towards objects in the Koha namespace as hopefully that would mean some nicer, clearer mehods and less duplication of code.. |
| 14:03 |
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ashimema |
C4::Accounts is a prime example of this.. why oh why are there like 7 subs that all do almost exactly the same thing.. |
| 14:03 |
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ashimema |
there should be just one! |
| 14:05 |
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Joubu |
Does someone use nginx with Koha? |
| 14:05 |
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ashimema |
it's just actually doing it that matters.. we need to agree on some QA targets for this sort of thing really.. Like 'when' should the delete functionality be written afresh in the borrowers object... and whether that work also means you should immediately ensure all cases calling C4::Members should instead call Koha::Borrowers or whether that's a progressive thing |
| 14:05 |
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ashimema |
I've played with nginx a while back Jonathan.. |
| 14:05 |
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ashimema |
but we've never done it for production |
| 14:07 |
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Joubu |
I have submited a patc on bug 13726 to make Koha::Acq::Bookseller using Koha::Object |
| 14:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13726 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Koha::Acquisition::Bookseller should use Koha::Object |
| 14:07 |
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Joubu |
it replaces all CRUD calls and remove the code from C4:: |
| 14:07 |
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Joubu |
it is a quite huge patch, and not easy to test |
| 14:11 |
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kivilahtio |
Does anybody know if there is some bug about doing date transformations to the preferred dateformat in the C4::LetterGetPreparedLetter? |
| 14:12 |
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kivilahtio |
I think the Letter-module should be responsible for doing the preferred dateformat conversion. |
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* Dyrcona |
waves to kivilahtio. |
| 14:13 |
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kivilahtio |
hi Dyrcona |
| 14:13 |
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kivilahtio |
Same goes with preferred money format |
| 14:14 |
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kivilahtio |
currency_format() |
| 14:14 |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: bug 11244 ? |
| 14:14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11244 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , notices ignoring the dateformat preference |
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kivilahtio |
thanks! |
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tcohen |
would we agree on accepting patches that add more and more fields to the XSLTs, but also hide them by default through CSS? |
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tcohen |
it is difficult to make a decision on patches that add more and more fields |
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cait |
i am guilty of that - so better stay out of it :) |
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tcohen |
many users could see it as adding more and more noise |
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cait |
but it hink we need to built in some flexibility for RDA |
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tcohen |
cait: I agree, 100% |
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cait |
because catalogs will have to deal with both types of records at once :( |
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cait |
which is... well. hmpf. |
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tcohen |
just thinking on a workflow that wouldn't change users' visualization, but doesn't hakt improvements |
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tcohen |
*halt |
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tcohen |
also, I'd like to see the UNIMARC XSLTs match MARC21 and NORMARC ones |
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tcohen |
regarding layout, functionality, etc |
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cait |
hm actually the marc21 are not well written either |
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cait |
it shoudl all be nice templates... but it isn't |
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cait |
the structure is hard to work with for customizing currently - if you wanted to reuse/inherit from a base one for example |
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ashimema |
the xslt's are a huge pain to maintain.. |
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ashimema |
and in fact every time someone adds somthing they become a nightmare to merge your customisations into |
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nengard |
agreed!!! |
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ashimema |
i've not found a mergetool that deals with them in a remotely sensible way yet.. xml is nasty for mergetools |
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nengard |
we're looking into maintaining git repos for local customizations |
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ashimema |
If I were to start again in that area, I'd probably use clientside js based templates of some sort.. |
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ashimema |
they somehow seem simpler to work with |
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ashimema |
nengard.. |
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wahanui |
it has been said that nengard is fast |
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nengard |
:) |
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cait |
we could do it more sanely with xslt too |
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ashimema |
we've tried that/are trying that.. but it's proving challenign to adopt |
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cait |
we just... don't |
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* tcohen |
just knew he's not meeting some people he expected in marseille, will miss you there! http://snag.gy/0ulYk.jpg |
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ashimema |
sorry tcohen |
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ashimema |
:'( |
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ashimema |
I'm aiming to join virtually for as much as I can |
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tcohen |
YAY! |
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ashimema |
nengard.. how are you doing xslt's then? |
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ashimema |
I'd be interested in others workflows.. |
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nengard |
We just started talking it through |
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nengard |
up until now we were maintaining separate sheets for each library that wanted customizations and no upgrading them |
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ashimema |
we've got a big split now of customers on pacakges vs dev installs and the xslt workflow even differes amongst them.. |
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nengard |
so they were stuck on the version we customized |
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nengard |
that's not ideal |
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cait |
nengard: imagine you'd have to maintain translated versions... |
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nengard |
so now we're going to create a git repo and pull in the upgrades from Koha and then merge the customizations with the standard Koha xslt |
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tcohen |
xslts don't change too often, and/or they have minor fixes |
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ashimema |
my best plan to date is on the packages.. I've got a koha-create-custom script which adds a /var/koha/instance/wwwdocs directory with a git controlled set of customs xslt's for that isntance |
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cait |
itmakes all more difficult because of the translation process |
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nengard |
tcohen, but many of our partners are on OLD xslt - so before the rda stuff started to make its way in |
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cait |
i use a trick now... with an external include that has the translated/untrasnlated terms and pull that into my customized one |
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ashimema |
but it's a bit of a mare to work with during upgrades if you actually want to attempt to merge in the koha core xslt changes |
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nengard |
yup |
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tcohen |
a recent dcook set of patches tweaked XSLT_handler so it allows passing parameters to the XSLT's |
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ashimema |
xslt's change fairly often actaully.. |
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ashimema |
we merge in the community ones for every upgrade and i've found that pretty much every upgrade i've done over the last few yeras has had some pretty large xslt changes between versions |
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tcohen |
ashimema: that's cait fault |
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tcohen |
ashimema: that's cait fault |
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cait |
huh?? |
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ashimema |
yup.. I blame cait ;) |
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ashimema |
well.. it is really so blame laid where blame due ;) |
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* cait |
hmpfs |
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* tcohen |
did something to the defaultview on the results |
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* tcohen |
recalls |
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tcohen |
ah, make it easier to read, no one would blame me for that :-P |
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Viktor |
Just did a git pull and broke my dev install. Complaint about DBIx/Connector. Should I be worried? |
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nengard |
i got that too |
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cait |
a new dependency |
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nengard |
you need to install that dependency |
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nengard |
jinx |
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cait |
sudo apt-get install libdbix-connector-perl or like that |
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Viktor |
Thanks cait, nengard - I'll try that :) |
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* tcohen |
wrote robin about it |
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Viktor |
Yay - worked fine cait++ |
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Viktor |
Even if I had to spell it right before it worked ;) |
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Joubu |
QA pov needed on bug 9303 comment 200 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , relative's checkouts in the opac |
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Joubu |
tcohen: what can I do with bug 11592? I know it will be in conflict with another PQA bug (bug 12252)? I don't want to spent time on it since I know it won't be pushed, but on the same time failing it is not fair... |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Passed QA , OAI-PMH GetRecord result doesn't include item data |
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tcohen |
Joubu: you can pass it if you feel like that |
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Joubu |
tcohen: and? :) |
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Joubu |
it won't be pushed... |
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tcohen |
leave it |
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Joubu |
actually 12252 does not apply anymore |
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tcohen |
i'll show you something i've been working on regardig visibility |
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tcohen |
on Marseille |
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* tcohen |
wished he could finish it in time |
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Joubu |
tcohen: does it mean you won't push 12252 before? |
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* tcohen |
is confused |
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tcohen |
11592, i don't think i'll push it |
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cait |
bug 11592 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility |
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cait |
bug 12252 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it bug 12252 is waiting for signoff, y'know, if someone is bored |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Passed QA , OAI-PMH GetRecord result doesn't include item data |
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cait |
hm ok, have to catch a bus |
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cait |
talk to you all tomorrow/later |
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tcohen |
Joubu: i could push it |
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tcohen |
uff, mark put a lot of effort on those patches! |
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Project Koha_Docs build #640: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/640/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #17 for job Koha_Docs_3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_Docs_3.16.x build #17: SUCCESS in 16 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.16.x/17/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: update 'no renewal before' |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #641 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #639 2 days 17 hr ago) |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_Docs build #641: FIXED in 8 min 50 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/641/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: update 'no renewal before' |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: bug 13624 is back in the NSO queue, if you fancy giving it a try ;) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Needs Signoff , Remove columns branchcode, categorytype from table overduerules_transport_types |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: thanks |
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gerundio |
hi everyone |
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gerundio |
I'm creating a script to remove all occurrences of commas and spaces at the end of a given set of of MARC fields for all our biblio records |
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gerundio |
basically I picked up an existing script to read all biblio records |
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gerundio |
but I'm having a few problems when saving the changes |
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gerundio |
due to the repetition fields, for instance, if there are two or more occurrences of a 700 field for a given biblio record |
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gerundio |
I tried using $record->field($field_number)->update($subfield_id => $subfield); |
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gerundio |
but this way the 1st occurrence of the field in the record gets overwritten by the following occurrences |
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gerundio |
is there a simple way to perform updates on records fields given an index of its occurrence? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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nengard_phone |
can someone give me more info about this: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]#OpacGroupResults |
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nengard_phone |
what does group mean? |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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* drojf |
sortofdisturbs talljoy_sortofDND |
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talljoy_sortofDND |
LOL |
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talljoy_sortofDND |
i've only set my door ajar...not quite closed! |
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drojf |
:) |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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oleonard |
cait++ # for bug-wrangling |
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cait |
Joubu++ tidy up |
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Abhijit |
hi |
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Abhijit |
hi we are using 3.18 while running file we are getting following error Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/create_koc_db.pl line 97. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/create_koc_db.pl line 97. we are using debian |
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Abhijit |
can anyone please help |
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* magnuse |
gives the evening wave |
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cait |
:) |
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magnuse |
guten abend |
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drojf |
magnuse: do you know when oslo public library is going live with koha? |
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magnuse |
drojf: no, and neither do they :-) |
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magnuse |
maybe within he next year? no hard date has been set |
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drojf |
ok :) i only found the anouncement from januay 2014 so i thought there might be more concrete plans now :) |
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magnuse |
they have a bunch of (software) things to do before they open the new library, and the new ils is supposed to be the first one to go live |
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magnuse |
nothing very concrete, that i know of |
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drojf |
oh there is a blog post from this january about it that i missed before |
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beto |
hello everyone!! |
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beto |
i need some help |
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beto |
i made a backup of my records |
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magnuse |
drojf: yeah, it might be worth while to keep an eye on their blog |
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beto |
and i need to import them |
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beto |
but barcodes are not available |
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beto |
so... i need to import my inventory |
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beto |
but i dont know how to do it |
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beto |
hello everyone!! |
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beto |
anybody? |
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wahanui |
The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/ |
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magnuse |
beto: how did you make the backup of your records? |
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beto |
export from koha |
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beto |
.mrc extention |
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magnuse |
did you export without items? |
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beto |
yes |
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beto |
because i dont know how to export items |
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beto |
im using this option "Export data" |
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magnuse |
items will be exported unless you choose not to export them, i think |
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magnuse |
what are you trying to do? move records from one koha to another? or rescue records after a crash? |
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beto |
move them to another |
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beto |
but is not working |
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beto |
i try to reindex zebra |
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beto |
and now opac is not showing results |
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magnuse |
beto: how did you import the records into the second koha? |
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magnuse |
did you use the staging tool or the command line? |
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magnuse |
how do you reindex after importing? |
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beto |
i use the "Stage MARC records for import" |
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beto |
but records were imported without items |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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magnuse |
beto: that is weird - the defaults should be to both export and import with items |
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jcamins |
Last I checked the default was not to import items. You have to choose to improt them. |
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magnuse |
oh, ok |
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magnuse |
beto: make sure you enable importing of items, then |
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* magnuse |
is running out of battery |
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bag |
rangi how do one pronounce Hea ? |
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bag |
s/do/does |
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rangi |
hair uh |
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bag |
thanks |
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rangi |
trying to do it with an american accent |
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rangi |
i think thats pretty close |
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bag |
alright thanks :) |
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cait |
hair uh? |
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rangi |
http://www.korero.maori.nz/for[…]ronunciation.html |
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rangi |
he a |
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rangi |
2 syllables |
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cait |
hm would saying it german be wrong? |
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cait |
you should really record it :) |
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rangi |
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/fi[…]words/hakihea.mp3 |
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rangi |
listen to that |
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cait |
why uh and not ah? |
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cait |
the second word? |
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bag |
yeah the ending of it cair |
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bag |
cait :P |
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bag |
sorry for the typo |
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cait |
imight just not have the ear for it :( |
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eythian |
hi |
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andreashm |
hello |
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dcook |
Hmm someone said my name once upon a time... |
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* dcook |
scrolls |
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* eythian |
points to the lastlog command |
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dcook |
eythian: Can you tell me more? |
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wahanui |
i guess more is only a nother display for what can be accessed from global |
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dcook |
lastlog |
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dcook |
:( |
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eythian |
/lastlog keyword |
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eythian |
also, //help lastlog |
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eythian |
err /help |
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dcook |
Hmm, that's neat |
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dcook |
Thanks :) |
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barton_away |
Hey, what's the way to show a particular system preference, from the staff client? I've seen the bywater folks (particularly nengard) do it, but I didn't note it at the time. I tried '.../admin/preferences?searchfield=XISBN' ... but that didn't work. |
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drojf |
hi & good night ;) |
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nengard |
you search on the admin > system preferences page |
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nengard |
at the top |
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nengard |
and then copy the url |
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barton_away |
aha. I had been trying the 'Global system preferences search', and that didn't work. |
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barton_away |
didn't realize that those were two different searches. |
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