IRC log for #koha, 2015-02-15

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06:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #55 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
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10:33 mveron Hi #koha
10:33 mveron @wunder allschwil
10:33 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 3.7°C (11:33 AM CET on February 15, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
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11:57 * mveron waves to cait :-)
11:57 * cait waves back
11:59 mveron cait: On I get "Am" as translation for "On-site checkout" (near checkbox). Not sure, maybe it takes just the 'On' (=Am) for translation.
12:00 cait hm i think i fixed that
12:00 cait should be ok with 3.18.4
12:00 cait if you want you can get the po files from pootle - i fixed a lot of smal things the last days
12:00 cait preparing for a training next week
12:01 mveron I just updated from pootle, maybe I mistaked.
12:01 mveron Will try again.
12:01 cait hm strange
12:01 cait oh
12:01 cait i think i only fixed german - did you look at de-ch?
12:03 mveron I made a fresh copy for de-CH from de-DE today. And I have the same in bothe languages. But if it looks OK on your installation I did something wrong with updating.
12:03 cait let me check
12:05 cait hm look ok on mine
12:05 cait 3.18.3 with updated po files from thursday
12:05 cait says : Vor-Ort-Ausleihe
12:05 mveron I'll check my installation, seems to be a mistake here...
12:06 mveron Other issue: 'Ausgeliehen to' on biblio detail page.  'to' did not translate.
12:06 cait checking
12:06 cait yeah seeing the same
12:06 cait i was mostly in opac and on the circ screen so far
12:09 mveron Seems to b on after line 599. Lots of IF - ELSE - UNLESS
12:09 cait did you find the strng in pootle yet?
12:09 cait i think i found it
12:10 cait http://translate.koha-communit[…]get&unit=12781924
12:16 mveron %s to  -> %s an  , but I do not see why it needs a %s (line 605 in
12:16 cait it's the else
12:19 mveron Looking at the code, there is a variant "Checked-out by" (onsite-checkout) and "Checked-out to" (Normal checkout). Could both read "Checked out to" and then the "to" could moved to the "Checked-out"
12:20 mveron could be moved
12:20 cait hm i thought there was a 'in local use'
12:20 cait for the onsite
12:20 cait i think maybe the variation is for when you don't display the name
12:27 mveron Ah, "Currently in local use by" and "Checked-out to".
12:29 * mveron tries to check how the 'by' translates
12:31 cait brb
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12:35 mveron @later tell cait 'by' translates OK: Ausgeliehen to Edna Acosta,  but: Aktuell in lokaler Benutzung von Hans Testmann
12:35 huginn mveron: The operation succeeded.
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13:43 tst_ i wish to get publisher with authority data
13:43 tst_ how to use publisher authority
13:43 tst_ and where to add publisher name in authority
13:43 tst_ database
13:43 wahanui well, database is gone now :(
13:54 tst_ when i am addding publisher in authority field
13:54 tst_ in which tag numbers i should add name of the publisher, place and address of publisher
13:55 tst_ when i click on 260 in publisher authority it says  COMPLEX SEE REFERENCE--SUBJECT
13:55 tst_ but publisher name in marc 21 tag is 260$b
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15:18 cait hi tcohen
15:18 tcohen hi cait
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18:52 mveron Good evening / daytime #koha
18:54 mveron cait: Thanks for helping with the translation this afternoon. I translated the %to in de-CH as well and the "Vor-Ort-Ausleihe" is OK as well.
18:56 mveron @wunder Allschwil
18:56 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 2.2°C (7:56 PM CET on February 15, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
18:59 cait cool :)
19:03 mveron :-)
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19:49 mveron Good night #koha
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21:04 tcohen around?
21:09 cait who?
21:41 eythian the world
21:41 wahanui the world is >48fps
21:41 eythian around the world?
21:41 wahanui Around the world.
21:47 wizzyrea Around the world is <reply>
21:47 wizzyrea around the world?
21:47 wahanui Around the world.
21:47 rangi @later tell joubu is hea down?
21:47 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:56 wizzyrea Around the world is also <reply>
21:56 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
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22:57 eythian https://lh5.googleusercontent.[…]tion-mp4_16-9.jpg <-- Linux 4.1.15-1.1381_SKYN12nnmp
22:58 rangi well 3.20 is rebootless patching
22:58 rangi it's on the way
22:59 wizzyrea "can you make the computer look computer-y, kthx."
23:00 rangi[…]_patching_in_320/
23:01 eythian <-- wizzyrea
23:01 eythian rangi: yeah, though I think we use/used ksplice here for things. Though, that may be been pre-Oracle-terribleness
23:02 rangi yeah we did/do but it's nice the new one will come with the kernel
23:02 wizzyrea hehehe
23:03 eythian it'll still require someone to produce the patches, I think. But that's more likely now that there's the infrastructure to deploy them.
23:04 rangi yeah, and that its not looked up .. id imagine a bunch will come from redhat and suse
23:04 rangi first
23:04 rangi then others will get in on the act
23:09 tcohen we love ksplice in our infrastructure
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23:34 tcohen eythian: around?
23:34 eythian <eythian> the world
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23:34 tcohen hah
23:34 tcohen aa quick question regarding ES
23:34 eythian sure
23:35 tcohen did u take a look at Koha::RecordProcessor and Koha::Filter::* ?
23:35 eythian I haven't, no
23:35 tcohen they seem to be a very well defined API for transforming data in a organized way
23:36 tcohen if you need to transform data, of course
23:36 rangi hmm probably not as nice as Catmandu tho
23:36 eythian that's kinda what catmandu is for
23:36 rangi which is what we are using
23:36 eythian Catmandu is probably more generally useful
23:36 rangi instead of building our own ... which we then have to maintain ;)
23:36 eythian e.g. you can just plug in CSV input/output, or SQL, or MARC, or whatever you like.
23:37 rangi
23:39 rangi ttp://  (much more recent)
23:40 tcohen so it moves Catmandu objects around
23:41 tcohen like the MARC::Record lib, but with more fancy tools to transform data
23:41 rangi and not limited to marc
23:41 rangi yeah
23:42 tcohen does it provide an API for transforming data? Catmandu::Fix?
23:42 rangi exporter
23:42 rangi and fix
23:42 rangi and importer
23:42 rangi combo of those 3
23:43 rangi import, fix, export
23:45 tcohen where are you hooking it to Koha?¡
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23:46 rangi Koha::ElasticSearch::Indexer and  currently
23:46 rangi[…]2ca9b656bbea23d2f
23:47 rangi my $importer = Catmandu::Importer::MARC->new( records => $records, id => '999c' );
23:47 rangi my $fixer = Catmandu::Fix->new( fixes => $self->get_fixer_rules() );
23:47 rangi $importer = $fixer->fix($importer);
23:47 rangi use
23:47 rangi Catmandu::Store::ElasticSearch->new(
23:47 rangi too
23:49 rangi once the ES stuff is happy, we can start moving it to do things like the RIS export etc
23:49 rangi kaizen .. one thing at a time :)
23:50 tcohen heh
23:50 tcohen catalyst repo?
23:50 rangi its an optional dependency
23:50 rangi yeah its all on the bug too
23:50 rangi just easier to view in gitweb
23:50 rangi bug 12478
23:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Elasticsearch support for Koha
23:52 tcohen thanks
23:55 rangi tcohen: it should make adding other data sources a lot easier
23:55 rangi want to have dc and marc indexed .. then this would be quite possibel
23:56 tcohen i'm trying to weight if some stuff i planned to work on is worth
23:56 tcohen are you still relying on MARCXML data for display?
23:56 rangi
23:56 rangi for now, yep
23:57 rangi id recommend having a read up/play with that site
23:58 rangi also
23:59 rangi
23:59 tcohen are you using mij for indexing? or still using plain marcxml?
23:59 rangi its elasticsearch so neither
23:59 rangi its json

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