IRC log for #koha, 2015-02-12

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00:21 eythian[…]aydead.limbo.full <-- I played this when it came out on Linux. It's a great game, and worth the price.
00:23 rangi[…]monkey.kura&hl=en  <-- fun too
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00:54 eythian[…]ue-this-year.html
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00:57 mtompset I guess this a good sign to quit.
00:57 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
00:59 tcohen eythian: YAY
01:00 rangi i started rewrting my counting script for patches and signoffs in perl6 .. works pretty well
01:00 eythian rangi: rakudo?
01:00 rangi but there is no perltidy for perl6 yet .
01:00 rangi i installed it from git
01:00 eythian also, are there any particularly good getting started tutorials?
01:00 rangi and built 3 different ones
01:01 rangi rakudo, moar (or something like that) and jvm
01:01 rangi so i can do perl6-r is rakudo etc
01:01 rangi its fun to see how it performs on each
01:01 eythian ah yep
01:01 rangi  is what i used
01:02 rangi getting panda installed early will save you hassles too
01:02 rangi makes installing modules a ton easier
01:03 * dcook isn't even sure what Perl 6 is anymore...
01:05 rangi eythian:[…]h?keywords=rakudo
01:05 rangi for even easier
01:06 eythian yeah, found that
01:06 rangi
01:06 rangi happily all the modules i needed
01:06 rangi Git::Wrapper and JSON
01:07 eythian raduko actually has a proper REPL. That's a pleasant change.
01:07 rangi are written in perl6 already
01:07 tcohen night
01:07 rangi night tcohen
01:07 eythian bye
01:08 * tcohen will try p6 probably, tonight heh
01:08 rangi also it makes it really really really hard for you to screw up encoding
01:08 rangi which is great
01:08 eythian yeah
01:09 eythian that'll be a nice change
01:09 eythian oh, <a b c> == qw(a b c), I like that
01:09 rangi yeah
01:10 mtj i've been lurking on the freenode #perl6 chan for that last year(ish) - its very interesting stuff
01:10 rangi
01:10 mtj and ..hi :)
01:10 rangi i like that for loop at the bottom
01:10 eythian yeah, a cleaner foreach
01:11 rangi dont perltidy it tho :) thats the mistake i made
01:11 rangi it tries to make it @log->$1
01:11 rangi which perl6 hates
01:11 rangi also @array[0] not $array[0]
01:11 mtj rangi: great to hear of your p6 forays :)
01:12 rangi tripped me up at least once
01:12 rangi however you do get good error messages
01:12 eythian like this:
01:12 eythian Bogus statement
01:12 eythian at <unknown file>:2
01:12 eythian ------> <BOL>⏏<EOL>
01:13 eythian I don't even know what that thing is :)
01:13 rangi heh
01:14 mtj hmm... its the 'eject doovde' symbol?
01:16 eythian <-- that covers a lot of stuff fairly quickly
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01:17 eythian and apparently undef has become "Any"...that's weird.
01:18 dcook is sure interesting...
01:21 dcook Support at the gym?
01:22 dcook That's what I call service :)
01:22 dcook bbiab
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02:45 mtj ooh ->[…]d-open-source-ils
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03:31 bag ;)
03:33 wizzyrea such excite.
03:33 dcook ...well... I didn't know my arrival would be greated so well :p
03:33 * dcook is going to leave and come back again
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03:43 dcook Hmm, less excitement this time :(
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05:34 mtj "…EBSCO offers free worldwide access to five databases, available at"
05:34 mtj i didnt know that ^
05:57 bag cool
05:58 bag so can I get a needs sign off search in bugzilla - but don’t show me any bugs that need signoff that have a dependant bug too
06:47 bag wow watching live die repeat - and it’s pretty good
06:56 * magnuse waves
06:59 bag hey magnuse
06:59 wahanui1 rumour has it magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
06:59 bag ouch
07:00 magnuse :-)
07:01 magnuse wow, how about that announcement!
07:04 bag yeah pretty cool
07:05 magnuse hehe
07:05 * magnuse is curious about "MARC to RDF crosswalk enhancing capability of linking to online data repositories (linked data)"
07:05 * bag too
07:06 bag perhaps just MARC to RDF crosswalk
07:07 bag which you’re working on right magnuse?
07:07 magnuse um, i was
07:08 magnuse but i havn't done anything about it in a while
07:08 bag ah
07:08 bag we shall talk in France :)
07:08 magnuse to get any real benefit from rdf we need a triplestore connected to koha, not just "save as rdf"
07:08 magnuse yeah, maybe i should spend some time in marseille working on my semantic stuff
07:08 magnuse gah, but i want to sign off patches too...
07:09 bag sign off!!!
07:09 wahanui1 sign off is, like, a good way to learn a lot about koha  :-)
07:09 magnuse so true wahanui1
07:09 bag but we can have an espresso and talk semantically about espresso
07:09 magnuse 183 nso now...
07:10 magnuse if i can have something other than coffee, sure
07:10 bag ah - good goal of hackfest - lets get that below 80 :)
07:10 magnuse that would be super awesome
07:10 bag 1 a day for 20 people
07:11 magnuse true
07:11 magnuse and we can do more than 1 a day
07:11 bag we have almost 40 people
07:11 bag .5 a day for 20 people
07:11 bag :P
07:12 magnuse hehe
07:12 magnuse if you add up failed qa + in discussion + patch does not apply you get another scary number...
07:15 bag too late at night for that number
07:16 magnuse yeah, don't want you having nightmares
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07:21 magnuse from the horse's mouth:[…]-for-enhancements
07:32 bag hola matts
07:33 bag OR
07:33 bag hey matts
07:33 matts hello bag !
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07:36 reiveune hello
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07:39 marcelr hi #koha
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07:59 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 4.1°C (8:59 AM CET on February 12, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
08:00 magnuse @wunder boo
08:00 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 12, 2015). Conditions: Heavy Snow Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Rising).
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08:03 alex_a bonjour
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08:23 cait hi #koha
08:26 Joubu hi #koha, cait
08:26 Joubu hi magnuse, marcelr too :)
08:26 cait hi Joubu and marcelr
08:27 marcelr hi cait Joubu magnuse alex_a
08:28 magnuse y'all seen[…]-for-enhancements yet?
08:31 Joubu " The Koha community is excited to have their involvement and strong support."
08:31 Joubu ha?
08:31 Joubu who is the Koha community? :)
08:32 magnuse well, i guess the partners in the agreement is part of the community...
08:32 magnuse but yeah...
08:33 Joubu Maybe there was an annoucement yesterday during the general irc meeting
08:36 cait guess it's marketing speak
08:36 cait but yeah, could be better phrased
08:38 Joubu ByWater and Catalyst are in it, so bag and rangi are certainly awake of that :)
08:39 rangi its marketing
08:39 cait also gruppo italiano
08:40 rangi ebsco spin it the way they want to spin it
08:40 rangi[…]65548366076338177
08:40 cait it sounds like the ES work in marketing speak mostly?
08:40 magnuse "Koha Gruppo Italiano has received a massive grant by EBSCO Publishing to integrate the @elasticsearch tool into Koha. "
08:40 magnuse i hope that is the work eythian has been doing?
08:41 rangi yep
08:41 magnuse phew
08:41 rangi AARome and Bywater have been funding that
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08:41 magnuse but it was not fully funded?
08:41 rangi nothing has really changed, just the money goes from ebsco to aarome then on now
08:41 magnuse cool
08:42 rangi the bits ebsco wants are some more hooks in svc/ stuff
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08:43 rangi but what it means is a massive 5700 employee compnay that has a presence at pretty much ever library conference ever, is publically endorsing koha
08:43 rangi that's worth more than any many
08:43 liw \o/ \o/
08:44 rangi s/many/money/
08:44 magnuse yup, that is pretty cool
08:45 magnuse as long as it's not an exclusive deal in any way, of course
08:45 rangi naw
08:45 rangi its a grant
08:45 rangi i havent signed a thing
08:45 magnuse :-)
08:45 rangi and it'll all be gplv3
08:47 magnuse yay for that! :-)
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08:50 mofad hai
08:50 Joubu ho, an email on the koha ml, I didn't see it yet
08:51 rangi that was just a cut and paste by someone
08:52 mofad during koha installation, error appear no valid OpenGPG data found
08:52 mofad can i get the correct link for gpg?
08:53 rangi[…]i/Debian#Everyone
09:01 kivilahtio rangi: so what does this EBSCO mean in practice?
09:01 kivilahtio rangi: accelerated development for eythian working on ElasticSearch?
09:02 rangi not really, cant really work much faster
09:02 rangi just means libraries dont have to fund it
09:04 mofad still appear same command
09:04 mofad gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found
09:07 rangi how are you trying to install?
09:08 mofad i,m using this step[…]ubuntu_-_packages
09:10 rangi and you definitely did the add key bit, and ran the apt-get update again?
09:10 magnuse something weird going on, when i try to do "$ wget -O- | sudo apt-key add -" it stops at 60 or 80%
09:11 rangi interesting
09:11 wahanui1 interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:11 mofad i follow every single step
09:12 rangi works for me
09:12 rangi magnuse: wget
09:12 rangi magnuse: does that work?
09:13 magnuse rangi: yup, that works
09:15 magnuse "wget -O-" works, writing the key to the screen
09:16 magnuse when i add " | sudo apt-key add -" it stops at somewhere between 60 and 80%
09:16 rangi right maybe do
09:16 rangi wget
09:17 rangi then cat gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -
09:17 rangi or sudo apt-key add gpg.asc even
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09:28 drojf hi #koha
09:28 rangi hi drojf
09:28 magnuse rangi: that works for me, too bad mofad left...
09:29 drojf hi rangi and magnuse
09:36 magnuse moin drojf
09:44 cait magnuse: did you solve your staging problem yet?
09:44 cait maybe it's something in the configuration
09:44 cait like the aggressive isbn match?
09:45 cait are you mathing the data on somethong on import?
10:01 Joubu cait: about SQLHelper (you talked about it yesterday), when bugs 12648 and 13021 will be pushed (there are PQA), bug 11385 will continue its way and will be completely removed :)
10:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Needs Signoff , C4::SQLHelper should be removed
10:01 Joubu It's almost done!
10:02 cait sounds like a nice good goal for marseille
10:02 cait because almost done :)
10:03 cait the other i was thnking about was CGI::scrolling_list
10:03 cait bug 766
10:03 huginn Bug[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=766 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Use of CGI::scrolling_list prevents customization in template
10:03 cait the oldest
10:03 Joubu yep, much more tricky
10:03 cait but not so much left
10:04 cait mostly acquisition stats and issues_avg_stats
10:11 cait Joubu: killing the oldest bug would be nice, but I see it needs patches
10:12 Joubu cait: which ones?
10:12 wahanui1 which ones are lighztning talks?
10:12 cait that is cgi-scrolling list :)
10:12 cait currently the oldest :)
10:12 Joubu ha yep
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10:42 magnuse cait: nope, no solution for staging yet. i will look at "aggressive isbn matching" though!
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10:52 magnuse kia ora ashimema_!
10:53 kivilahtio Is there a script to update changes in biblioitems, which are mapped to MARC records?
10:54 cait Joubu: for usggestons - there is a bug if you have the same title already in your database
10:54 kivilahtio updates biblio and biblioitems tables from MARC Records, but I need to opposite functionalitY?
10:54 cait bug 10752
10:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10752 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Impossible to add 2 identical suggestions, but without any explanation
10:54 cait maybe that's what you saw on the other bug, but not sure
10:55 Joubu cait: not really, the title field should be mandatory if the pref is empty, but it's not
10:55 Joubu nothing is mandatory is it's empty
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10:58 cait aah
10:58 cait ok
11:04 cait 2 bugs then :)
11:47 cait has someone seen weird behavioru with the browse feature in opac? (previous, next, back to result list?)
11:56 cait culd someone try a search for de and en on master and see if they get the browsing controls? for de previous i/next is always greyed out here
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13:09 cait hm gotanother one...
13:09 cait does the item search work in non-english for someone?
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13:10 cait morning tcohen
13:10 tcohen morning
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13:20 magnuse cait: what do you mean by item search?
13:21 cait the new item search form
13:21 cait that you can get to from advanced search
13:21 cait could you test if it works for you translated?
13:22 cait i get a js error in jquery js - not helping much
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13:45 magnuse ah found it
13:47 magnuse i can't set nb-NO as the language - probably a problem with my dev install
13:50 magnuse cait: seems to work ok in swedish
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13:52 magnuse cait: and in norwegian
13:52 cait :(
13:52 magnuse cait: when do you get the error? dislpaying the search form or the results?
13:52 cait could you try german?
13:52 cait yeah it just keeps processing
13:52 magnuse what does the "Net" tab in firebug say?
13:53 cait i tried a search for 'all' not changing any option
13:54 cait hm it appears to finish
13:54 cait but nothing displays
13:54 cait i think maybe it's a datatable hting
13:54 magnuse Lädt...
13:55 cait yeah
13:55 cait any idea?
13:55 cait i wanted to train this :(
13:56 magnuse Looks like the data/hits/items are getting returned ok
13:56 magnuse so there must be something that stops jquery/datatables from putting the data into the right slots or something
13:57 cait yeah
13:57 cait i have tried to see where a translation coudl have slipped in but failed
14:00 magnuse i seem to remember something similar for swedish, where the problem was escaped quotes: \" or \\"
14:01 cait hm strange
14:01 cait i am missing   <span>All libraries</span> in the translated template
14:01 cait the whole tag
14:01 cait coudl you check if it's there in norwegian?
14:01 cait also all locations
14:03 cait when you open the page in english, the preselected options have text
14:03 cait "all itemtypes" and so on
14:03 cait but it doesn't happen for German
14:04 magnuse true
14:05 magnuse but the value is "" for all languages, so i don't *think* that should matter
14:06 magnuse german: <option selected="selected" value=""> </option>
14:06 magnuse swedish: <option selected="selected" value=""> Alla bibliotek </option>
14:06 cait yeah but it's werid!
14:07 magnuse yup
14:08 cait http://translate.koha-communit[…]es&sfields=source,target&soptions=exact&unit=13001577
14:09 cait it got cpied but not corrected i think
14:09 cait i will try if that fixes it
14:10 * magnuse crosses fingers
14:11 cait have to wait for the coworker - but thx for testing!!
14:12 magnuse np
14:16 cait magnuse++
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14:19 * Oak waves
14:19 Oak magnuse
14:19 Oak hello cait!
14:20 magnuse Oak
14:22 tcohen @later tell rangi we need to change ->, please?
14:22 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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14:26 magnuse kia ora oleonard
14:27 oleonard Hi
14:27 wahanui1 bidet, oleonard
14:28 tcohen hi oleonard
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14:45 * magnuse wanders off
14:53 tcohen hi magnuse
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15:13 cait magnuse: fixed the display problem - but it still doesn't work :(
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15:30 Joubu khall: I am waiting for an answer from you on bug 12933 ;)
15:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12933 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to print overdue slip from staff intranet
15:34 khall Joubu: so I'm thinking you'd rather have that data fetched at the .pl level than at the .tt level?
15:35 Joubu khall: I really would prefer to see it fetch in only 1 place
15:35 Joubu but at the moment, we cannot
15:35 Joubu khall: I don't see the point of the plugin you introduced
15:36 khall I agree completely.
15:36 Joubu if we start to do that, the plugin will be a mess
15:36 khall Joubu: You have a good point. I'll submit a followup to get rid of the plugin
15:37 Joubu khall: maybe prefer to edit the previous patch, to avoid the creation/deletion of a file in the same patchset
15:37 khall Joubu: yes, I'll keep that in mind
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16:35 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "Joubu: this" (1 line) at
16:38 reiveune bye
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17:37 Joubu goodbye #koha!
17:38 tcohen bye Joubu
17:40 tcohen who moderates the lists?
17:50 oleonard tcohen: rangi moderates the koha list, at least. Not sure about the devel list.
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18:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13019 [QA Followup] - Fix stale unit test <[…]2ef867500d5eca9fb> / Bug 13019 [QA Followup] - Allow chaining <[…]281afd91b64f91a95> / Bug 13019 [QA Followup] - Remove use of encode <[…]diff;h=089c08ea65
18:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13189 - Patron card creator patron search browse by last name broken by extended... <[…]2fb4f5fc773e23901> / Bug 13343: Embed items when send a basket/shelf <[…]898795f70d34d6ebc>
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18:48 tcohen later #koha
19:08 Kohanta Hi, can I install the dev version with git in a production environment ?
19:15 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:15 wahanui1 o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #310: FIXED in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/310/
19:15 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 13431 - Shared FastMmap file causes issues
19:15 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 13431 [QA Follow-up]: Shared FastMmap file causes issues
19:15 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13636 - Staff search results item status incorrect for holds
19:15 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13335 - Holds and priority display via OPACShowHoldQueueDetails confusing
19:15 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13019 - Add base classes on which to build Koha objects
19:15 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13019: (follow-up) Remove smartmatch operator
19:15 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13019 [QA Followup] - Allow find() and search() to be called as static methods
19:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13431 critical, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , Shared FastMmap file causes issues
19:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13636 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Search results item status incorrect for holds
19:15 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 13019: [QA Follow-up] Rename new_from_dbic and few typos
19:15 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13019 [QA Followup] - Remove use of encode
19:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13335 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Holds and priority display via OPACShowHoldQueueDetails confusing
19:15 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13019 [QA Followup] - Allow chaining
19:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13019 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add base classes on which to build Koha objects
19:15 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13019 [QA Followup] - Fix stale unit test
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19:28 jcamins Kohanta: it is possible, but it is not a good idea.
19:34 Kohanta Thanks jcamins
19:35 Kohanta Any reasons why it is not a good idea ?
19:41 jcamins If you're going to ask for help ever, you want an environment as close to everyone else's as possible.
19:42 Kohanta Ok, got it. Thanks again @jcamins
19:47 Dyrcona Kohanta: if you want to install things from git, come to Evergreen!
19:47 Dyrcona Some of us do that crazy stuff all the time.
19:50 Kohanta Thanks for Evergreen Dyrcona !
19:55 Dyrcona Kohanta: I'll say in general, it is a bad idea to run from the master or development branches of most projects, unless you're a developer testing things.
19:55 Dyrcona Kohanta: Most projects make no guarantees about the stability/usability of such branches.
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20:57 pianohacker hi
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20:58 andreashm hello
21:01 rangi morning
21:03 rangi @later tell tcohen .. did that ages agao
21:03 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:03 rangi @later tell tcohen  3600    IN      A
21:03 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:06 rangi bag:[…]65979085231226882
21:07 bag nice rangi :)
21:07 rangi im just throwing numbers around
21:07 * bag is too
21:07 rangi its apples with pears
21:07 rangi like you say
21:07 bag I tried saying that :D
21:07 bag let’s see if it gets through ;)
21:08 gmcharlt bag++
21:08 * bag goes back to puppy pictures :P
21:08 bag heh just kidding
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21:18 rangi bag: heh yeah ..didn't work im afraid
21:19 bag nope
21:19 rangi if ex libris have 194 FTE devs .. wtf is alma still broken?
21:19 bag “The numbers are for the company overall, and not limited to efforts expended on specific products or projects.”  adding in so we didn’t jump and say there are not 155 working on LibLime
21:20 rangi yeah
21:20 rangi there are 237 at catalyst
21:21 bag Reply with that please
21:21 rangi about 190 are devs
21:22 bag so every support company that works with Koha support - let’s say an average of 20~30 ees…  That’s like 1500+ FTE
21:22 bag :)
21:22 bag s/1500/1000+
21:24 rangi done
21:25 bag I added on - couldn’t resist
21:25 bag thanks
21:27 andreashm interesting comparisons
21:28 rangi stats, they can say whtever you want
21:28 bag rangi: stop me :)  I can’t stop commenting
21:29 bag heh
21:29 magnuse bag: HI
21:29 wahanui1 hey, magnuse
21:29 bag magnuse: HI
21:29 wahanui1 hey, bag
21:29 rangi hehe
21:29 magnuse bag: STOP
21:29 bag thanks
21:29 bag phew
21:29 bag more coffee!!!
21:29 * magnuse dunno what, though
21:30 bag oh magnuse I am commenting on the email from marshall on the koha-devel
21:30 * magnuse needs to catch up on the lists
21:31 andreashm fun to watch the activity here and the read the mails to the list. =)
21:31 andreashm then
21:31 magnuse andreashm: this is where we have all the real fun :-)
21:31 bag :D
21:32 * Dyrcona passes 'round the pineapple chunks.
21:32 wizzyrea oh me pick me
21:32 bag heya wizzyrea
21:32 wahanui1 rumour has it wizzyrea is silly
21:32 wizzyrea hi there
21:32 wahanui1 hey, wizzyrea
21:33 * magnuse waves frantically at wizzyrea
21:33 wizzyrea gracious, hello everyone :)
21:35 rangi yeah im bored now, its obvious this is getting nowhere
21:35 magnuse btw, i need to edit some zebra indexes for bug 12948. now that grs1 is on the way out, do i still edit biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml and generate biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl from that, or do i edit biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl directly?
21:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12948 minor, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, NEW , The language filter in advance search doen't work with DOM MARC21 - NORMARC
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21:39 magnuse kia ora cait
21:39 cait hi magnuse
21:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #48 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:00 cait hmmm could someone do an overdues sign off?
22:04 cait bug 13679
22:04 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13679 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , There is a bug in overdues if you have overdues that match a rule, and have some items due in the future they are included in the list of overdues
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22:09 pianohacker cait: could I ask a tiny favor? Do you have a file you could point me at that has a proper GPL header to copy
22:09 pianohacker (also, hi :) )
22:09 cait hm is it not on the wiki?
22:09 pianohacker coding guidelines?
22:09 wahanui1 coding guidelines are[…]Coding_Guidelines
22:10 pianohacker yarp, thanks
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22:26 dcook__ Joubu++
22:27 dcook__ bug 13690: That's a lot of great effort :)
22:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13690 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , 3.18 performance issues
22:29 rangi bug 13404
22:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , More System information about GRS1 vs DOM settings
22:29 rangi i think i should push that for 3.18.4
22:29 rangi any people disagree?
22:30 * dcook takes a gander
22:31 dcook Don't see why not?
22:33 cait nope
22:34 rangi cool, thats enough for me
22:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #49 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:40 * pianohacker just realized a really weird, possibly accidental pattern of not putting GPL headers in JS code
22:41 eythian_ we really should.
22:41 * pianohacker is willing to lead the charge, rancor is 95% JS
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23:03 pianohacker bye
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23:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #50 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #48 1 hr 33 min ago)
23:25 eythian hi
23:32 eythian > Full time = 40 hours per week 50 weeks/year.
23:33 eythian no it doesn't
23:33 dcook Yeah, I was thinking that too, eythian
23:33 eythian here at least, 4 weeks of holiday is the mandated minimum
23:33 dcook Same
23:33 dcook Actually, I think even North America is moving away from 2 weeks... I want to say 3 is more common now?
23:34 dcook I'm not sure about 40 hour work weeks either
23:34 dcook I think all of my full time work has been 37.5 hours/week
23:34 eythian yeah, that's pretty common too.
23:34 dcook Or involved days off
23:34 eythian Here it's company dependent
23:35 eythian catalyst is 40, e.g.
23:35 dcook I think I worked alternating 5 day/4 day weeks when I did government
23:35 dcook Ahh
23:35 cait 39,5 here
23:35 eythian there's quite possibly rules around it, but I don't know what they are
23:36 cait 30 days of vacation
23:37 eythian I think it's 20 days minimum here
23:37 eythian (i.e. 4 weeks)
23:37 bag bywater peeps get 4 weeks
23:38 bag boo on the 2 weeks :(  that’s not civil
23:38 eythian agreed
23:39 cait yeah
23:41 bag hey larryb
23:41 bag oh not here
23:48 dcook 30 days of vacation would be all right
23:48 dcook Even 4 weeks doesn't go too far :p
23:52 eythian yeah :)
23:52 eythian though, I've been good at streatching it out in the past.
23:52 eythian where'd that a come from?
23:53 eythian <-- a "Bicycle Pedometer" ... I'm not convinced that means what they think it means
23:57 eythian ok, time to get lunch and then do things.
23:57 dcook hehe
23:58 dcook eythian: Way to break my brain..

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