| Time |
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Message |
| 00:14 |
|
eythian |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuf[…]edgehog-and-snail <-- it's all over the news now! |
| 00:16 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 00:34 |
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| 00:38 |
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* Francesca |
waves |
| 00:38 |
|
rangi |
hi Francesca |
| 00:39 |
|
Francesca |
hey rangi |
| 00:39 |
|
Francesca |
I've got my timetable finalised now for uni |
| 00:40 |
|
rangi |
cool |
| 00:40 |
|
Francesca |
Are tuesdays ok for irc sessions for work experience? |
| 00:41 |
|
rangi |
yep that should be fine |
| 00:42 |
|
Francesca |
sweet! is there any time in particular that suits you? I have no classes that day so anytime works for me |
| 00:46 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: seven layer burrito? |
| 00:46 |
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wahanui |
i haven't a clue, eythian |
| 00:47 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: seven layer burrito is physical, data link, network, transport, session, presentation, application |
| 00:47 |
|
wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 00:48 |
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eythian |
wahanui: seven stages of grief |
| 00:48 |
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wahanui |
seven stages of grief are lettuce, tomatoes, rice, beans, sour cream, cheese, guacamole |
| 00:49 |
|
rangi |
Francesca: hmm probably round 1pm |
| 00:49 |
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eythian |
wahanui: osi model |
| 00:49 |
|
wahanui |
osi model is, like, shock, denial, guilt, anger, bargaining, hope, acceptance |
| 00:49 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, looks like I missed some scrollback |
| 00:49 |
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Francesca |
rangi: that works for me, are there any websites that need doing at the moment? |
| 00:49 |
|
dcook |
Ah.. |
| 00:50 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Can't say I was ever fond of zebras :p |
| 00:50 |
|
eythian |
dcook: I don't believe you |
| 00:50 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: dcook |
| 00:50 |
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wahanui |
i think dcook is missing part of that original link due to a smiley face that comes up in dcook's IRC client |
| 00:50 |
|
rangi |
http://hea.koha-community.org/ you could have a look at this one |
| 00:50 |
|
rangi |
code is all here https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app |
| 00:50 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: dcook |
| 00:50 |
|
wahanui |
rumour has it dcook is missing part of that original link due to a smiley face that comes up in dcook's IRC client |
| 00:50 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: dcook |
| 00:50 |
|
wahanui |
dcook is the designated masochist |
| 00:50 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: dcook |
| 00:50 |
|
wahanui |
it has been said that dcook is a zebra expert now |
| 00:50 |
|
eythian |
^ there |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 00:51 |
|
* dcook |
thinks jcamins may have been trolling him... |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
Or maybe it was you |
| 00:51 |
|
dcook |
I can't remember anymore :p |
| 00:52 |
|
Francesca |
rangi: I'll have a look at that one now. Do you want me to just send merge requests when I push a change up? |
| 00:53 |
|
rangi |
Joubu looks after that site, so he will need to merge them, but yes. YOu might want to try to get it running locally, if you have a vm or something you can do it on. Because he wont have the time to merge for testing ... if that makes sense? |
| 00:55 |
|
Francesca |
uhh not really. And I don't have a vm at the moment ether. I might be able to run it off xammp though |
| 00:59 |
|
rangi |
*nod* because he wont be able to just merge and hope it works, because he is in france so the lag will mean broken for a while etc. So we will want to be sure it works before we send a merge request |
| 01:01 |
|
Francesca |
oh ok. I might be able to try and get it running via xammp then, I'll have to see. Also I don't have a git hub account, so will need to set one up before I start |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
dcook: If I'm looking at a string like '@attr 1=Heading @attr 3=2 @attr 4=1 @attr 5=1', how do I know what those attr values are between the various types of bib1 attribs |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
oh, the first number is the type |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
the second is the value |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
yes? |
| 01:10 |
|
eythian |
I don't understand how they have a large document defining everything, but missing out on how they actually go together. |
| 01:21 |
|
Francesca |
rangi: I am set up on github now, remind me how I get a clone set up on my laptop? |
| 01:22 |
|
rangi |
you want to fork that repo first |
| 01:22 |
|
rangi |
https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app |
| 01:22 |
|
rangi |
top right |
| 01:24 |
|
rangi |
then you should have a copy of it under your username and there should be a url (you want the ssh one) that you can copy and paste |
| 01:24 |
|
rangi |
so git clone that_url |
| 01:24 |
|
rangi |
you might need to upload your ssh key first |
| 01:24 |
|
* rangi |
has to head out now to get the kids from school |
| 01:24 |
|
Francesca |
uhhh how do I do that? |
| 01:24 |
|
* Francesca |
waves |
| 01:24 |
|
Francesca |
see you rangi |
| 01:30 |
|
mtj |
hiya Francesca |
| 01:30 |
|
mtj |
-> https://help.github.com/articl[…]erating-ssh-keys/ |
| 01:32 |
|
Francesca |
mtj thanks so much |
| 01:32 |
|
Francesca |
thats really helpful |
| 01:35 |
|
mtj |
no probs :0) |
| 01:35 |
|
* eythian |
notes that the 'exact' authority search claims to do no truncation, in fact does both left and right truncation |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
Hmm? |
| 02:01 |
|
* dcook |
was eating |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 02:02 |
|
* dcook |
loves when something claims one thing but does the other |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
sounds like you've got it figured, eythian |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
The 1st number is definitely the type, and the 2nd is the value, yeah |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
I think this doc might explain: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/bib1.html |
| 02:03 |
|
eythian |
yeah, it does, somewhat |
| 02:11 |
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| 02:11 |
|
dcook |
And we're back... |
| 02:32 |
|
dcook |
Hmm... Perl 5.20.1 seems... interesting |
| 02:33 |
|
dcook |
I don't think there's an OS package for Text::CSV::Encoded, but I can't install it from CPAN either |
| 02:33 |
|
dcook |
Well, the tests fail at least... |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
$ apt-cache policy libtext-csv-encoded-perl |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
libtext-csv-encoded-perl: |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
Geïnstalleerd: (geen) |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
Kandidaat: 0.22-2 |
| 02:34 |
|
dcook |
Me thinks Debian > OpenSuse |
| 02:37 |
|
dcook |
The newer versions have much perl packages which is nice, but still not good enough |
| 02:37 |
|
dcook |
Mind you, it might be a different problem with this particular instance of the OS |
| 02:42 |
|
dcook |
Hmm.. |
| 02:43 |
|
dcook |
Looks like I wonder why it's 0.22-2... |
| 02:43 |
|
dcook |
It looks like in the actual 0.22 release that the test might just be buggy |
| 02:43 |
|
dcook |
https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug[…]lay.html?id=93438 |
| 02:48 |
|
dcook |
I keep thinking that Perl 5.20 doesn't get along with Koha, but I don't remember why... |
| 02:48 |
|
eythian |
I'm not aware of any issues |
| 02:48 |
|
eythian |
but, that doesn't mean they're not there. |
| 02:48 |
|
dcook |
Hmm |
| 02:49 |
|
eythian |
I thought I did see something about unicode changes, but I can't really remember |
| 02:49 |
|
dcook |
It is possible that tcohen and some others have already cleaned them up |
| 02:49 |
|
dcook |
Or are working on them |
| 02:49 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I thought I saw something about htat |
| 02:49 |
|
dcook |
that* |
| 03:16 |
|
mtj |
hey eythian, did you spot this ... -> http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html |
| 03:16 |
|
eythian |
mtj: yeah, I did |
| 03:16 |
|
mtj |
http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/bib1.html |
| 03:17 |
|
mtj |
cool |
| 03:17 |
|
eythian |
that too |
| 03:17 |
|
eythian |
:) |
| 03:33 |
|
mtj |
the bib-1 query syntax seems to be the perfect compliment to the MARC spec |
| 03:34 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 03:38 |
|
eythian |
that's about right |
| 03:58 |
|
mtj |
hey, just curious... did we find a decent replacement for zebra's z39 service? |
| 03:59 |
|
eythian |
we're waiting for you to write one :) |
| 04:14 |
|
mtj |
i vaguely recall BL testing jzkit, i wonder how they got on... |
| 04:27 |
|
mtj |
hmm, i dont think ive seem this before, http://www.indexdata.com/simpleserver |
| 04:28 |
|
eythian |
looks neat |
| 04:36 |
|
mtj |
yeah, it really does, http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/N[…]r/SimpleServer.pm |
| 04:38 |
|
mtj |
hmm... perhaps BL might have used that, to write their own z39 server |
| 04:46 |
|
jcamins |
mtj: there was a lengthy discussion about SimpleServer on the mailing list when BibLibre was working on Solr. |
| 04:48 |
|
jcamins |
Okay, not so much discussion as screed. |
| 04:49 |
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* jcamins |
leaves. |
| 04:54 |
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| 04:55 |
|
dcook |
Picking your way through Java versions is so fun... |
| 04:57 |
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* eythian |
usually is able to ignore that |
| 05:03 |
|
dcook |
Wise |
| 05:15 |
|
eythian |
elasticsearch query formats don't mesh with the way we get "what to search for" information well at all. |
| 05:15 |
|
* eythian |
leaves the impedence mismatch to solve for tomorrow. |
| 05:18 |
|
eythian |
so far I've got it building up a set of query and filter bits, but they need to be merged together, accounting for searches that may have the same field twice. |
| 05:19 |
|
eythian |
also accounting for if we need a filter at all... |
| 05:19 |
|
eythian |
or even just the same query type twice |
| 05:19 |
|
eythian |
it's all a bit annoying that you can just throw an array of queries at es. |
| 05:19 |
|
eythian |
*can't |
| 05:22 |
|
dcook |
Not sure I follow but that sucks that it's annoying :( |
| 05:23 |
|
eythian |
it's just the syntax that it uses |
| 05:24 |
|
eythian |
http://www.elasticsearch.org/g[…]uery-strings.html <-- you have to do stuff like this |
| 05:25 |
|
eythian |
not too bad if you're designing something around ES itself, but annoying if you want to have a nice easy UI for someone to build a search query. |
| 05:25 |
|
eythian |
I wonder if I can just wrap it all in a bool 'should' query. |
| 05:25 |
|
eythian |
so it'll work even if there's only one entry (which will be the common case) |
| 05:27 |
|
eythian |
but I'll also have to add a filter level to handle exact matches, queries are for smart things that do tokenisation etc, but not for things where you want to do an exact match of a whole field, and then do subqueries inside that. |
| 05:27 |
|
eythian |
oh well, tomorrow's job |
| 05:27 |
|
* eythian |
& |
| 07:00 |
|
dcook |
"i wonder if its the same perl 5.20 we were spotting with utf8 and koha" |
| 07:00 |
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dcook |
@later tell rangi what were the troubles with perl 5.20 + utf8 + koha again? |
| 07:00 |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
| 08:02 |
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wahanui |
que tal, alex_a |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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| 08:32 |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 08:32 |
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cait |
hi gaetan_B and matts :) |
| 08:32 |
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matts |
hi cait ! |
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cait |
hi Viktor :) |
| 08:46 |
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fridolin |
hie all |
| 09:01 |
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kivilahtio |
hi there |
| 09:01 |
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wahanui |
bidet, kivilahtio |
| 09:01 |
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Joubu |
good morning #koha |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
morning fridolin kivilahtio and Joubu :) |
| 09:07 |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen someone reported on the ML that es.k-c.org is down (and still down) |
| 09:07 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
| 09:32 |
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Viktor |
Hi cait! And greetings #koha |
| 09:35 |
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Viktor |
What would you guys throw extra cash at that needs to get done but no customers would pay for? |
| 09:35 |
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cait |
Viktor: difficult question |
| 09:36 |
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Viktor |
(We might get extra funding and I'd like to know that I don't prioritize extra development wrong.) |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
Viktor: are you coming to the hackfest maybe? |
| 09:37 |
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Viktor |
Hopefully I will cait, but I'm not sure yet. |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
ah ok |
| 09:37 |
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Viktor |
Plack is no1 on my wish list, but it seems to be moving along quite ok. |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
just thinking that it would be a good place to discuss areas that need some love |
| 09:38 |
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cait |
i haven't installed it yt - it seems there are different approaches to get it working currently |
| 09:38 |
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Viktor |
Hm I think you are right cait. Eye to eye would make it easier for this kind of discussion. |
| 09:38 |
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Viktor |
Yes I think it's at least two ways of installing Plack. |
| 09:39 |
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Viktor |
But my what a pleasure it is to use Koha with Plack active. |
| 09:39 |
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cait |
maybe i shoudl try sometime :) |
| 09:39 |
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Viktor |
It's one of the most obvious improvements for the untrained eye. |
| 09:39 |
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cait |
ah |
| 09:40 |
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Viktor |
Everybody can see the improved speed so It's great for demoing for people interested in Koha. |
| 09:40 |
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cait |
i guess i should put it on my hackfest list |
| 09:40 |
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cait |
to find somebody to show me how to install it :) |
| 09:41 |
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Viktor |
If I do make it to the hackfest I hope to get some work done with magnuse on the interactive signs that's had to wait for a cleanup. |
| 09:41 |
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cait |
:) |
| 09:42 |
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Viktor |
Last time magnuse installed Plack for us on a test run we hade problems with picking up the right translations. But otherwise known bugs seems to be getting fixed. |
| 09:43 |
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Viktor |
How about major stuff like elasticsearch? Do you know how that is coming along? |
| 09:43 |
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cait |
i talked to eythian a bit last night, i think Joubu has been working on getting a test system up? |
| 09:43 |
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cait |
Joubu? |
| 09:43 |
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wahanui |
i guess Joubu is going to add a letter for "acquisition", so there is no sense to keep claimacq |
| 09:43 |
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cait |
i was hoping we might be ableto see something at the hackfest, but not sure |
| 09:44 |
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cait |
wahanui: forget Joubu |
| 09:44 |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot joubu |
| 09:44 |
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Viktor |
That would be sweet. |
| 09:45 |
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Joubu |
cait: yes I tried, I have to retry this week |
| 09:45 |
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cait |
Joubu: keeping fingers crossed then |
| 09:46 |
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Viktor |
Fingers crossed :) Is it sort of proof of concept or a little more functionality in there? |
| 09:47 |
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cait |
i think they are pretty far, but not sure again... need to find out more myself |
| 09:47 |
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Viktor |
Quite exiting :) Thanks for the info! |
| 09:48 |
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cait |
at least i think it's more than a poc - but really don#t have much info yet |
| 09:49 |
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cait |
bug 12478 |
| 09:49 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Elasticsearch support for Koha |
| 09:49 |
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cait |
comment 18 has a little info |
| 09:51 |
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Joubu |
yes, that's why I try to test the branch. It's not really obvious what is implemented or will be |
| 09:51 |
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Joubu |
the branch is based on 3.16 and should be rebased against master |
| 09:52 |
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Joubu |
some conflicts expected, the Solr code has been removed |
| 09:52 |
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cait |
ah right |
| 09:52 |
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Viktor |
Seems to be more than POC indeed :) |
| 09:52 |
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Joubu |
a few days ago, a new commit "authority wip" is appeared on the branch :) |
| 09:52 |
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cait |
Joubu: thx for trying - really curious :) |
| 09:53 |
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Joubu |
but it's a shame there is no doc to set it up |
| 09:53 |
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cait |
yeah, i will bug eythian about it again i think |
| 09:53 |
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Joubu |
and to explain what is done, what will be done, etc. |
| 09:53 |
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Joubu |
Hope to manage to play with it this week :) |
| 09:55 |
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cait |
left a comment on the bug |
| 10:34 |
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slef |
Who runs es.koha-community.org ? Neither it or manual seems to be on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]te_Administration |
| 10:34 |
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slef |
Looks like it's at UNC |
| 10:34 |
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Joubu |
slef: it's UNC, I let a tell later to tcohen this morning |
| 10:35 |
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slef |
ok, I'll let the facebooker know we're aware and have sent it on |
| 10:35 |
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Joubu |
slef: yep, thanks |
| 10:36 |
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slef |
@later tell tcohen could you add any missing admin details you know to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]te_Administration please? |
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huginn |
slef: The operation succeeded. |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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* akafred |
is ready for Marseille :-) |
| 11:35 |
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ashimema |
@wunder stevenage, uk |
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huginn |
ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 2.3°C (11:32 AM GMT on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
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slef |
@wunder WGYD |
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huginn |
slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
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slef |
@wunder EGYD |
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huginn |
slef: The current temperature in Cranwell, United Kingdom is 2.0°C (11:50 AM GMT on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:01 |
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slef |
surprisingly similar |
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Viktor |
Hei Magnuse! |
| 12:18 |
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cait |
akafred: cool :) |
| 12:19 |
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cait |
kivilahtio: you are doubled up int he spreadsheet :) |
| 12:19 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: maaaaaan |
| 12:21 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: thanks for the heads up, got it fixed |
| 12:27 |
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cait |
what's the short letter for croatia? |
| 12:28 |
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cait |
nm looked it up |
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Joubu |
HR |
| 12:30 |
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cait |
thx :) |
| 12:37 |
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Joubu |
What is the usefulness of the "balance" value in the new dashboard entry? What does it represent? |
| 12:38 |
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cait |
i think the idea of 'give and take' |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
test others and get yours tested |
| 12:40 |
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kivilahtio |
I am not very balanced. Looking forward to fixing that during the hackfest :) |
| 12:40 |
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Joubu |
hum, so BibLibre is a bad student because the balance is negative? |
| 12:40 |
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cait |
i'd not be so strict there i guess |
| 12:41 |
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cait |
not sure if it counts signofss and qa currently too |
| 12:42 |
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Joubu |
It's a very weird way of seeing things |
| 12:42 |
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cait |
it's something that could create some discussion, that's for sure |
| 12:42 |
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cait |
but discussion is not always bad |
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cait |
especially since the needs sign off is exploding again |
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Joubu |
I (represent BibLibre) spent a lot of time to fix bugs and not to signoff patches, but it is not for BibLibre itself. |
| 12:44 |
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Joubu |
This balance means it is more valuable to signoff than fix a bug |
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cait |
it's a good point |
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Joubu |
anyway, it's just number, I don't personnaly care |
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Joubu |
Just wondering what it reflects for others |
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cait |
i think rangi did it last weekend, not sure - haven't seen him much |
| 12:46 |
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Joubu |
"BibLibre (and ByWater, Olli, etc.) takes and doesn't give" |
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kivilahtio |
By taking, it should count how many times git bz apply has been used :) |
| 12:47 |
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kivilahtio |
Submitting patches is definetely taking :) |
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Joubu |
Hum, I develop a lot of patches for "the community" |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: that was a joke |
| 12:48 |
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kivilahtio |
a poor one nevertheless |
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Joubu |
when it's bugfix, it's often bugfix for new versions, BibLibre's customers don't use it yet |
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Joubu |
they are still using 3.14... for the major part |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: you are paving the way! |
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cait |
i think itw oudl be a good point to say bugfixes belong to the other column |
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cait |
but i am not sure if you can really represent it in number well |
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cait |
off to a webinar |
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cait |
bbl |
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drojf |
i do not read that as "biblibre (or anyone else) is bad". it would be interesting to differentiate between bugfixes and enhancements though |
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marcelr |
Joubu: what about the QAs in your balance? |
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Joubu |
marcelr: I don't understand what "balance" means |
| 13:01 |
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Joubu |
#patches - #SO = balance |
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Joubu |
ok if you want, but it does not mean something for me |
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cait |
hm i think so - patches |
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cait |
waiting for the call :) |
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Joubu |
maybe #patches + #so + #qa = contribution means something... |
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* magnuse |
waves in a slightly head cold way |
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magnuse |
kia ora Viktor |
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Viktor |
kia ora Magnuse |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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marcelr |
hi tcohen |
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magnuse |
¡hola tcohen! |
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magnuse |
cait: kohadevbox has plack set up |
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magnuse |
...in a dev-mode kind of way |
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magnuse |
with debugging tools etc |
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drojf |
there are quite a fe patches markes as "needs sign off" that have some question or discussion at the end. shouldn't those get back to "in discussion" to trigger some kind of response? i would not sign off now on something that has some kind of question or objection at the end |
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drojf |
*a few |
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drojf |
marked. don't mind the typos, tired ;) |
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magnuse |
drojf: yeah, if there open questions, "needs signoff" does not make sense, in my opinion |
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drojf |
for example something like bug 12085. i don't think there is anything to sign off really at the moment. (not blaming the dev, it was just a bug i had open, there are a lot more like this) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12085 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Allow staff to place multiple reserves for the same patron |
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drojf |
i suppose people asking questions don't want to deny the "needs sign off" status as somebody else could still want to do it. and the people doing the patches don't change the status either, because somebody else could still sign off without them addressing the question. which is both understandable, but when i look around to see if i could do a signoff and the first 5 patches i look at are like this, i may have other things to do instead. i think this c |
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drojf |
druthb! |
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druthb |
drojf! |
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druthb |
:) |
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drojf |
:) |
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drojf |
(and for cleanup, it needs some kind of rule. i don't want to be the bad guy changing your status if it is not consensus to do it in some way ;) |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: How does this sentence end ". i think this c..." ? |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: you can steal my patches! |
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drojf |
i think this could use some cleanup |
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drojf |
kivilahtio: ah that is you! :) |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: speaking of the devil |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: I realized that people here are so courteous that they are afraid of stepping onto someone's toes. In bugzilla you can access obsoleted/overwritten patches. |
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kivilahtio |
so nowadays I try to add a disclaimer to my patches that they can be stolen. |
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kivilahtio |
What I am trying to say is that even if you make changes and share them to bugzilla, the original owner can still find his submits. |
| 13:30 |
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kivilahtio |
so no damage done |
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drojf |
i think it's great to put them there, i just wonder about the status. there is not really something to sign off there at the moment, it's just there to be reused, right? |
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oleonard |
I don't think that is necessary kivilahtio |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: ok |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: maybe "Works for me"? |
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oleonard |
Or maybe it's just me -- I'll submit a follow-up to a patch if I think it can be improved. |
| 13:31 |
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kivilahtio |
there is such a status. Resolved -> Worksforme |
| 13:31 |
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kivilahtio |
or just "new"? what is wrong with new? |
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oleonard |
And I'll file a counter-patch if I think an entirely different approach should be taken |
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kivilahtio |
if i have an issue, i look for a ticket, regardless of it's status |
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tcohen |
morning kivilahtio druthb drojf cait Joubu magnuse marcelr |
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drojf |
if you plan on rebasing it for master at some point, i would leave it open, just set it to… i don't know, in discussion or assigned probably |
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kivilahtio |
gday tcohen |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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druthb |
morning, tcohen. :) |
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* tcohen |
is back at the office |
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tcohen |
it's been a while! |
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tcohen |
(2 month) |
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drojf |
post kohacon holiday? :) |
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drojf |
does reducing the needs signoff queue by making people switch status to assigned count as +1 in my statistics? :D |
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cait |
tcohen: on phone, but talk later? |
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tcohen |
of coures |
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* tcohen |
loves RM-QAM meeting |
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andreashm |
hi all |
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* magnuse |
wanders off |
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cait |
off the phone |
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cait |
drojf; i think new and a note that it's not ready for testing /needs more work maybe |
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cait |
for patches that can be used as is when it's not fail? everything seems equally confusing |
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Joubu |
@later tell rangi, the links in the "last 5 SO" area are broken (dashboard) : show_bug.cgi?id=%3C%%20entry.1%20%%3E |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
tcohen: Hello! Did you have the time to have a look at bug 13610? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13610 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , delete_patrons.pl crashes on debian squeeze |
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tcohen |
Joubu: yes |
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* tcohen |
is looking for khall's patch that fixed it |
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Joubu |
tcohen: Last time you said me it was a dbic issue |
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tcohen |
it is |
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Joubu |
But we can fix it in Koha, great |
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tcohen |
we need to revert some stuff from 11891 |
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cait |
bug 11891 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Make Koha::Schema use C4::Context->dbh |
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gaetan_B1 |
bye |
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vfernandes |
hi guys |
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vfernandes |
in the last weeks i'm having a problem with one installation |
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drojf |
oh, a new raspberry pi model to put koha on ^^ |
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vfernandes |
sometimes it's happening oom-killer |
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vfernandes |
the server has 6GB |
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rangi |
vfernandes: check your apache logs is it getting hit a lot, you might want to wind down max connections |
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vfernandes |
rangi: are you talking about MaxKeepAliveRequests? |
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vfernandes |
checking my logs there isn't many requests |
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vfernandes |
MaxKeepAliveRequests 500 |
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vfernandes |
Timeout 300 |
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rangi |
Joubu: thanks fixed now |
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rangi |
vfernandes: hmmm can you see what process is using all the RAM |
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rangi |
? |
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vfernandes |
oom_killer this time was invoked by member.pl |
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vfernandes |
member.pl invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200da, order=0, oom_score_adj=0 |
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vfernandes |
on memory dump there is like 100 member.pl processes |
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pastebot |
"vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "memory dump" (161 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/385 |
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rangi |
yeah oom killer doesnt always(often) kill the actual thing using all the ram |
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rangi |
but yeah thats a lot of member.pl running |
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rangi |
id check the intranet access logs |
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rangi |
looks like something is hammering the members page |
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rangi |
problem is, it logs at the finish of a request |
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rangi |
so if the server starts ooming you often dont see them all in the logs |
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rangi |
but you might be able to notice something hitting the same url a lot |
| 18:29 |
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rangi |
ive seen something like this happen before, caused by a couple of things 1/ someone left a book on their keyboard and it was sitting on the f5 key .. that was easy to fix .. the other time, couldnt figure out why it happened it was like the browser wigged out |
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rangi |
i hope this is some help |
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vfernandes |
rangi now I have new data about the problem |
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vfernandes |
before the oom-killer the server has lost the connection to BD server |
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rangi |
ah ha |
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rangi |
yeah that would do it |
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vfernandes |
i guess that after the error someone has used F5 a lot |
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rangi |
if someone got impatient and hit refresh |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
that's my guess |
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vfernandes |
right now the server is stable |
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jcamins |
drojf: the new rPi doesn't look particularly interesting for installing Koha on. |
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jcamins |
drojf: where is the challenge? |
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wahanui |
the challenge is that I would like to be able to specify that there has to be an exact match, except 'u's and 'v's can be interchangeable, as can be 'i's and 'j's. |
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* jcamins |
said that, didn't he? |
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vfernandes |
i've added a cronjob to warn me when the memory to try to access the server earlier and prevent more oom-killers |
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drojf |
jcamins: true :D |
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rangi |
vfernandes: good idea |
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vfernandes |
thanks for the help rangi |
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vfernandes |
if the problem reappears, I will be here again :D |
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reiveune |
bye |
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cait |
hi agai #koha |
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Starting build #42 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0°C (8:50 PM CET on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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Dyrcona |
@wunder 01844 |
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huginn |
Dyrcona: The current temperature in Timber Lane, Methuen, Massachusetts is -12.7°C (3:16 PM EST on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -21.0°C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1001 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 1 am EST Tuesday... |
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magnuse |
ooh, you win Dyrcona |
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Dyrcona |
Well, Sudbury has me beat temperature-wise, but we've got wind and snow. |
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Dyrcona |
@wunder p3e 2c6 |
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huginn |
Dyrcona: The current temperature in Sudbury, Ontario is -13.2°C (3:03 PM EST on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
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Dyrcona |
I just came in from doing a little shoveling. |
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magnuse |
fun |
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magnuse |
@wunder karasjok |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -12.5°C (9:15 PM CET on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -20.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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Dyrcona |
Yeah, the wind and snow picked up and I decided I'd had enough. |
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* Dyrcona |
doesn't feel like "winning." ;) |
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* magnuse |
has a nice fire going in the fireplace |
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DisneyDave |
Hello all |
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DisneyDave |
We LOVE KOHA |
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DisneyDave |
quick question... I have had to restart MYSQL twice in two days ... is 3.18.02 causing anyone else any restarts? |
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magnuse |
yes we do! |
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magnuse |
not for me. what are your symptoms? |
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DisneyDave |
I was just checking in 5 items from a patron who had 42 items out at her individual screen so I checked the 5 items for return |
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DisneyDave |
and the checkin area spun and spun |
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DisneyDave |
I backed out and got the MYSQL is down error. |
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DisneyDave |
The other day I came in and it was down. We have not had any luck upgrading from 3.18.02 to 3.18.03 yet but it sounds like we took the right steps. Version still says 3.18.02 |
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magnuse |
is mysql completely stopped when that happens? |
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DisneyDave |
yes |
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cait |
DisneyDave: if the version still says 3.18.2 the update didn't run completely |
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DisneyDave |
Thanks cait. |
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cait |
sorry, misread i gues |
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DisneyDave |
I will get with my tech person to try and figure out why it didnt run completely |
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DisneyDave |
Are you having any issues with mysql stopping cait? |
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cait |
we have a test installation running 3.18.3, but haven't seen any problems there so far |
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DisneyDave |
Ok, thanks Manguse and Cait |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
bidet, eythian |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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magnuse |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
cait: you want me to explain the ES stuff? If you were in a real timezone, you would have got my complaining about how it's tricky to build an authorities search query yesterday :) |
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cait |
not in that much detail |
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cait |
but people ask about it you know |
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cait |
and i have no idea what to tell them - that#s annoying |
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cait |
and my timezone is fine, i like living in the past. |
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eythian |
cait: I'll see about making a wiki page with info |
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eythian |
it's still a bit string-and-duct-tape to put together quickly at the moment :) |
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cait |
aha! |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is -0.3°C (10:33 PM CET on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
ew more snow |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
no snow |
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eythian |
though, gale force winds, but that's nothing new |
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wizzyrea |
I miss the wind when it's not there. I prefer it really. |
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wizzyrea |
it's too hot when the wind goes. |
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eythian |
look at the person who doesn't have a bike :) |
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wizzyrea |
NZ sun is crazy hot. |
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wizzyrea |
without a breeze it's the most sweltering 23C you'll ever experience |
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wizzyrea |
I do feel for the cyclists. |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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mtj |
wiz,i've really grown to like the wind around wgtn too |
| 21:57 |
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cait |
:) |
| 21:58 |
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mtj |
great for kite flying |
| 21:59 |
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mtj |
off-topic... anyone recommend any android fones? |
| 21:59 |
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mtj |
what are people using these days? |
| 22:00 |
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cait |
my phone is a dinosaur... so can't really help :) |
| 22:01 |
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mtj |
ha, all good cait |
| 22:02 |
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mtj |
im guessing the catalyst folk have some hot tips |
| 22:03 |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu ive removed the balance column |
| 22:03 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:06 |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu also it is not looking at bugzilla at all, this is purely from git, so it counts all sign offs, including qa and release manager etc |
| 22:06 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:07 |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu also means it cant know if it is a bug or an enhancement, its purely the number of patches authored, grouped by organisation, and the number of sign offs by organisation |
| 22:07 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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|
* dcook |
waves |
| 22:14 |
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rangi |
hi dcook |
| 22:14 |
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dcook |
hey rangi |
| 22:15 |
|
dcook |
mtj: I bought a S3 online just as the S4 was coming out. Good price and it's been a good phone. |
| 22:15 |
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dcook |
Really though... I'd probably just look at the specs and see what you like |
| 22:15 |
|
dcook |
Regarding size, speed, etc. |
| 22:16 |
|
* dcook |
is tempted to use Cyanogenmod over Android actually |
| 22:19 |
|
eythian |
cyanogenmod ⊂ android |
| 22:19 |
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wizzyrea |
also cyanogen is now in league with microsoft? |
| 22:20 |
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cait |
hm stuck on my facets problem |
| 22:20 |
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cait |
i hae checked that dom is activated in koha-conf... the facet entries are there |
| 22:20 |
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cait |
also the facet configuration in the dom xsl |
| 22:21 |
|
cait |
nothing on the about page |
| 22:22 |
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cait |
problem: my facets are not showing up, like the problem described on the mailing list today |
| 22:23 |
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cait |
nothing in the logs either |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
what happens if you turn zebra facets off |
| 22:23 |
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cait |
just switch the koha-conf entry? |
| 22:23 |
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cait |
i will try sec |
| 22:24 |
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dcook |
eythian: ⊂? |
| 22:24 |
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cait |
restarted the zebrasrv too |
| 22:24 |
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cait |
oooh |
| 22:24 |
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cait |
facets are back |
| 22:24 |
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eythian |
dcook: subset of |
| 22:24 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: Apparently microsoft is investing in it |
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| 22:25 |
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eythian |
dcook: you never studied... |
| 22:25 |
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wizzyrea |
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets[…]away-from-google/ |
| 22:25 |
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dcook |
eythian: Never studied...? |
| 22:25 |
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dcook |
eythian: A quick google showed me the opposite for superset. I guess I should have inferred the answer :p |
| 22:25 |
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eythian |
to recognise a subset when you see one :) |
| 22:25 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: Yeah that's the one I read too |
| 22:25 |
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cait |
rangi: ok, so the zebra facets are not working.. i had the idea maybe they were not being indexed correctly = not showing up, nothing in the facet index |
| 22:25 |
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cait |
but i am not sure how to confirm that |
| 22:26 |
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dcook |
cait: you could try using yaz-client to find out |
| 22:26 |
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cait |
could you guide me how to? |
| 22:26 |
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dcook |
yep |
| 22:27 |
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dcook |
Let's see if I have a good setup so that I can do it at the same time.. |
| 22:27 |
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dcook |
cait: have you used yaz-client before? |
| 22:28 |
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cait |
once or twice but ages ago |
| 22:30 |
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dcook |
cait: So go to koha-conf.xml |
| 22:30 |
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dcook |
And copy the contents of <listen id="biblioserver"></listen> |
| 22:31 |
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dcook |
Mine is "unix:/home/dcook/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb/bibliosocket" |
| 22:31 |
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cait |
ok |
| 22:31 |
|
dcook |
Then type into the command line "yaz-client unix:/home/dcook/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb/bibliosocket" |
| 22:31 |
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dcook |
but with your own socket address |
| 22:32 |
|
dcook |
Just give me a sec to setup my zebra conf.. |
| 22:32 |
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cait |
should i turn facets back on before that? |
| 22:32 |
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dcook |
Nah, it shouldn't matter. |
| 22:32 |
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dcook |
Because we'll be doing the facet queries directly |
| 22:34 |
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cait |
ok |
| 22:34 |
|
dcook |
Ok, now let's see... |
| 22:35 |
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dcook |
type in "base biblios" |
| 22:35 |
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dcook |
then... "elements zebra::facet::any:w,title:w,title:0" |
| 22:35 |
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eythian |
hmph, the dev meeting is on a public holiday. |
| 22:35 |
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cait |
oh arg |
| 22:35 |
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cait |
h |
| 22:36 |
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cait |
thursday? |
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eythian |
cait: friday the 6th |
| 22:37 |
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cait |
dcook: nothing happened |
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| 22:37 |
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dcook |
Ah, my bad. It might be a configuration thing |
| 22:37 |
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dcook |
Try.. |
| 22:37 |
|
dcook |
"elements zebra::facet::any:w" |
| 22:38 |
|
dcook |
"format xml" |
| 22:38 |
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dcook |
then "find test" |
| 22:38 |
|
dcook |
then "show" |
| 22:38 |
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dcook |
That should show you the zebra facets for your search |
| 22:38 |
|
dcook |
(sort of) |
| 22:38 |
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cait |
ineresting |
| 22:38 |
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cait |
pasting sec |
| 22:39 |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/387 |
| 22:39 |
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dcook |
If that's the case, then I wonder a bit about your configuration.. |
| 22:39 |
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dcook |
Could you do "list_all" and paste the output of that? |
| 22:40 |
|
dcook |
More importantly actually... |
| 22:40 |
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dcook |
You you paste the contents of... |
| 22:41 |
|
dcook |
/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml |
| 22:41 |
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dcook |
Because "elements zebra::facet::any:w" should work, if retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml is setup correctly |
| 22:41 |
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cait |
i am on it |
| 22:41 |
|
dcook |
:) |
| 22:42 |
|
cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/388 |
| 22:43 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, that's surprising.. |
| 22:44 |
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cait |
hm? |
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dcook |
cait: I'm surprised that you got that error message, as your conf looks OK |
| 22:45 |
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cait |
werid indeed then |
| 22:45 |
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cait |
and confusing |
| 22:46 |
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dcook |
You restarted zebrasrv as well... so that's ok... |
| 22:48 |
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cait |
could it be a wrong path or something |
| 22:48 |
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cait |
= |
| 22:48 |
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cait |
pointing to another file? |
| 22:48 |
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dcook |
I'm wondering a bit about that |
| 22:48 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I just tried mangling my conf, and got a different error |
| 22:48 |
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dcook |
"[25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo 'zebra::facet::title:w'" |
| 22:49 |
|
dcook |
Interestingly enough... I don't actually even seem to need "<retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::*"/>" in my conf.. |
| 22:51 |
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dcook |
I know I've got that same error message you've gotten before though... |
| 22:51 |
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mtj |
dcook: thanks for the facet info.. very handy :0) |
| 22:52 |
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dcook |
mtj: a lot of it is in bug 11232 :) |
| 22:52 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Retrieve facets from Zebra |
| 22:52 |
|
dcook |
But it's a massive bug so a bit tough to root through... so you're welcome! |
| 22:52 |
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dcook |
cait: what happens if we try something else? |
| 22:53 |
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dcook |
like "elements" |
| 22:53 |
|
dcook |
Are you able to retrieve records? |
| 22:53 |
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cait |
sec |
| 22:53 |
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cait |
nothin |
| 22:53 |
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cait |
f |
| 22:53 |
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dcook |
I thought that might be the case |
| 22:53 |
|
dcook |
Maybe try reindexing your db |
| 22:53 |
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cait |
i did :( |
| 22:53 |
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cait |
with -r |
| 22:53 |
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dcook |
and it worked? |
| 22:53 |
|
cait |
yeah |
| 22:54 |
|
dcook |
So when you say nothing... what do you see? |
| 22:54 |
|
dcook |
you might need to try "find test" again |
| 22:54 |
|
dcook |
as "show" cycles through the records |
| 22:54 |
|
dcook |
and will give you an error once you hit the end |
| 22:54 |
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cait |
cs_put: System (lower-layer) error: Broken pipe |
| 22:54 |
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dcook |
Oh my |
| 22:54 |
|
* dcook |
tries to recall if he's ever seen that one |
| 22:55 |
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dcook |
Maybe let's try existing yaz-client and starting over again |
| 22:55 |
|
dcook |
So type "quit" |
| 22:55 |
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cait |
just a new line in the z command |
| 22:55 |
|
dcook |
Ctrl + C |
| 22:55 |
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cait |
restart? |
| 22:55 |
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dcook |
Sounds like yaz-client isn't having a good time |
| 22:56 |
|
dcook |
Just try to exit out of the yaz-client Z> commmand |
| 22:56 |
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cait |
i did |
| 22:56 |
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dcook |
Perfect. Then yeah, try "yaz-client unix:..." again |
| 22:56 |
|
rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ls5j5iz2eA |
| 22:57 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 22:57 |
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cait |
dcook: which commands? |
| 22:57 |
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dcook |
cait: where are you now? |
| 22:58 |
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cait |
i did base biblios |
| 22:58 |
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cait |
find test |
| 22:58 |
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cait |
show |
| 22:58 |
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cait |
and it shows results |
| 22:58 |
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dcook |
Cool |
| 22:58 |
|
dcook |
So let's just try "format xml" |
| 22:58 |
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dcook |
and "show 1" |
| 22:58 |
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cait |
marcxml |
| 22:59 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, same, which is actually not what I expected originally |
| 22:59 |
|
dcook |
Try... "elements index" |
| 22:59 |
|
dcook |
then "show 1" again |
| 23:00 |
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cait |
i see the indexes |
| 23:00 |
|
cait |
butnothing about facets |
| 23:01 |
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dcook |
Yep, that's all right |
| 23:01 |
|
dcook |
There shouldn't be anything about facets yet |
| 23:01 |
|
cait |
ok |
| 23:01 |
|
dcook |
Now try "elements zebra::facet::title:w" |
| 23:01 |
|
dcook |
then "show 1" |
| 23:02 |
|
cait |
Diagnostic message(s) from database: |
| 23:02 |
|
cait |
[25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo '' |
| 23:02 |
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cait |
nextResultSetPosition = 2 |
| 23:02 |
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cait |
Elapsed: 0.000711 |
| 23:02 |
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dcook |
That's so bizarre.. |
| 23:02 |
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cait |
yeah :( |
| 23:03 |
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dcook |
I'm sure I've seen that before, but not in a long time |
| 23:03 |
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dcook |
I do have a few different config options though so I'm going to try changing them and trying again |
| 23:04 |
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dcook |
Nope, that's not it |
| 23:05 |
|
dcook |
It looks like you're not using the retrievalinfo fallback in koha-conf.xml, or else "elements index" wouldn't have worked |
| 23:05 |
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dcook |
You're certain that the retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml file is the one pointed to in your koha-conf.xml? |
| 23:06 |
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cait |
i will check |
| 23:06 |
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dcook |
Oh, I think I might have an idea.. |
| 23:07 |
|
dcook |
Are you using ICU? |
| 23:08 |
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wizzyrea |
I think the person on the list mentioned ICU. |
| 23:08 |
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cait |
hm not sure |
| 23:08 |
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cait |
let's verify |
| 23:08 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I'm looking at an old list entry |
| 23:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
either way, somehow these two problems are bouncing around in my consciousness together. |
| 23:08 |
|
dcook |
Apparently I got "[25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo ''" once upon a time... although it looks like it was for both ICU and non-ICU |
| 23:08 |
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dcook |
But it was when I used "index:0" |
| 23:09 |
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dcook |
That's why I specifically wanted to try "index:w" instead.. |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
hm |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
looking into my xsl file |
| 23:10 |
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dcook |
Apparently the error went away once I was indexing ":0" in my xsl.. |
| 23:10 |
|
cait |
<z:index name="su-to:0"> |
| 23:10 |
|
cait |
<xslo:value-of select="marc:subfield[@code='a']"/> |
| 23:10 |
|
cait |
</z:index> |
| 23:12 |
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cait |
dcook: did you see the mailing list mail with the same problem? |
| 23:12 |
|
dcook |
I don't think so? |
| 23:12 |
|
dcook |
When was it? |
| 23:12 |
|
* dcook |
doesn't read the mailing list most of the time |
| 23:12 |
|
cait |
today |
| 23:12 |
|
dcook |
General or devel? |
| 23:13 |
|
cait |
koha main list |
| 23:13 |
|
cait |
from cindy murdock ames |
| 23:13 |
|
dcook |
Fwd: Facets missing on fresh dev install of 3.18.3 |
| 23:13 |
|
dcook |
Ah, k |
| 23:13 |
|
dcook |
I'll look |
| 23:13 |
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eythian |
dcook: what do you do for your daily dose of entertainment/dispair if you don't read the list? |
| 23:14 |
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dcook |
dcook: Facebook |
| 23:14 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it Facebook is *not* a universal authenticator |
| 23:14 |
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dcook |
Wow, I just addressed myself |
| 23:14 |
|
dcook |
I think that really says it all, in a way |
| 23:14 |
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dcook |
eythian: ^ |
| 23:14 |
|
eythian |
haha |
| 23:14 |
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dcook |
cait: Interesting. Certainly interesting. |
| 23:15 |
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cait |
and i am seeing it 2... which ... makes it look like something weird is going on |
| 23:15 |
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dcook |
Oooh, I just managed to get the same error when I tried.. |
| 23:15 |
|
dcook |
zebra::facet::* |
| 23:15 |
|
dcook |
Another thought... what version of Zebra are you using, cait? |
| 23:15 |
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cait |
oh good call |
| 23:15 |
|
cait |
how to check most easily |
| 23:16 |
|
dcook |
Good question |
| 23:16 |
|
dcook |
Actually, another question would be YAZ versions |
| 23:16 |
|
cait |
i tried zebrasrv -v |
| 23:16 |
|
dcook |
"yaz-client -V" |
| 23:16 |
|
dcook |
will tell you about yaz |
| 23:16 |
|
cait |
2.0.59 |
| 23:17 |
|
dcook |
zebraidx -V |
| 23:17 |
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wizzyrea |
sudo apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 also works |
| 23:17 |
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wizzyrea |
if you installed zebra with a package. |
| 23:17 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: If you're on a Debian based system :p |
| 23:17 |
|
dcook |
yeah |
| 23:17 |
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cait |
seems all give the same |
| 23:17 |
|
cait |
2.0.59 |
| 23:17 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I'm using 2.0.47... don't know if that really makes a difference |
| 23:17 |
|
dcook |
I would think newer would be better |
| 23:17 |
|
* wizzyrea |
is using 2.0.44 |
| 23:18 |
|
dcook |
If you hadn't shown me the "list_all" I'd feel like the elements weren't set right, but it looked ok |
| 23:19 |
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dcook |
cait: I'm getting that same error message when I type in a bad index name.. |
| 23:19 |
|
dcook |
I wonder.. |
| 23:19 |
|
dcook |
cait: try "zebra::facet::Title:w" |
| 23:19 |
|
dcook |
I swear that I encountered a case sensitivity thing once |
| 23:20 |
|
dcook |
It later seemed that I was crazy, but it's worth a show perhaps |
| 23:20 |
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cait |
hm |
| 23:20 |
|
dcook |
It's probably crazy, but.. |
| 23:20 |
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cait |
unknwn command? |
| 23:20 |
|
dcook |
Ah, sorry |
| 23:20 |
|
dcook |
"elements zebra::facet::Title:w" |
| 23:20 |
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cait |
just a new line |
| 23:20 |
|
cait |
no feedback |
| 23:20 |
|
dcook |
Maybe you timed out... try exiting and entering yaz-client again |
| 23:21 |
|
dcook |
Your yaz-client/zebra seems a bit tempermental |
| 23:21 |
|
dcook |
Which is odd as mine is usually pretty rock solid.. |
| 23:22 |
|
dcook |
I have one or two more ideas in any case :) |
| 23:22 |
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cait |
nothing just a new line |
| 23:22 |
|
cait |
did the base biblios |
| 23:22 |
|
dcook |
So you did "base biblios" then "elements zebra::facet::Title:w" ? |
| 23:22 |
|
cait |
and then the elemnts |
| 23:22 |
|
cait |
did i miss a step? |
| 23:23 |
|
dcook |
"format xml" |
| 23:23 |
|
dcook |
but I'm surprised it just gave a new line |
| 23:23 |
|
dcook |
It should've spat out an error message |
| 23:23 |
|
cait |
nothing |
| 23:23 |
|
cait |
quiet |
| 23:24 |
|
dcook |
You did "find test" |
| 23:24 |
|
dcook |
and "show 1"? |
| 23:24 |
|
cait |
always the same error :( |
| 23:24 |
|
dcook |
That's ok |
| 23:24 |
|
dcook |
try "elements index" again |
| 23:24 |
|
dcook |
I want to see some of the output of that.. |
| 23:25 |
|
cait |
hm |
| 23:25 |
|
cait |
what exactly |
| 23:25 |
|
cait |
? |
| 23:25 |
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dcook |
Mmm |
| 23:25 |
|
dcook |
Maybe the top bit of output? |
| 23:25 |
|
dcook |
Like... |
| 23:25 |
|
* dcook |
will give an example |
| 23:26 |
|
pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "example of "elements index"" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/390 |
| 23:27 |
|
dcook |
I suppose if I were smart, I would've actually upgraded my dev system to master |
| 23:27 |
|
dcook |
This is... either 3.14.5 or 3.17 |
| 23:27 |
|
cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/391 |
| 23:27 |
|
dcook |
Cool |
| 23:27 |
|
dcook |
So let's try "elements zebra::facet::Control-number:w" |
| 23:27 |
|
dcook |
As we know there is definitely something there |
| 23:28 |
|
dcook |
Or maybe... "elements zebra::facet::Bib-level:w" |
| 23:28 |
|
cait |
maybe i am doing it wrong |
| 23:28 |
|
dcook |
Since I don't have Control-number |
| 23:28 |
|
cait |
do i type this just after the last output? |
| 23:28 |
|
cait |
or do i need to do something in between? |
| 23:28 |
|
dcook |
You can just enter "elements zebra::facet::Bib-level:w" |
| 23:28 |
|
dcook |
It should be fine |
| 23:29 |
|
cait |
nothing... |
| 23:29 |
|
wahanui |
hmmm... nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though |
| 23:29 |
|
dcook |
Same error message then? |
| 23:29 |
|
cait |
nope |
| 23:29 |
|
cait |
just a new line |
| 23:29 |
|
cait |
on sending it |
| 23:29 |
|
dcook |
Can you paste that output? |
| 23:29 |
|
dcook |
Sorry, I keep making assumptions |
| 23:29 |
|
cait |
nextResultSetPosition = 2 |
| 23:29 |
|
cait |
Elapsed: 0.040626 |
| 23:29 |
|
cait |
Z> elements zebra::facet::Control-number:w |
| 23:29 |
|
cait |
Z> elements zebra::facet::Bib-level:w |
| 23:29 |
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cait |
Z> |
| 23:29 |
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dcook |
After "elements zebra::facet::Bib-level:w" |
| 23:29 |
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dcook |
You should put: |
| 23:30 |
|
dcook |
"find test" |
| 23:30 |
|
dcook |
"show 1" |
| 23:30 |
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dcook |
Sorry, I'm giving bad instructions :p |
| 23:30 |
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cait |
it's ok |
| 23:30 |
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cait |
now we are back to the same error |
| 23:30 |
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dcook |
Very very interesting |
| 23:30 |
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cait |
getting late here so I am probably not perfect following instructions either |
| 23:30 |
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cait |
[25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo '' |
| 23:31 |
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dcook |
Hmm... I notice something weird with your last pasted output.. |
| 23:32 |
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dcook |
If you look at mine, you see this z:id="516" |
| 23:32 |
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dcook |
But on yours... |
| 23:32 |
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cait |
hm |
| 23:32 |
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cait |
what about the element set name |
| 23:32 |
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cait |
can we check this? |
| 23:32 |
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dcook |
It looks like an entire record... instead of just the bib number.. |
| 23:33 |
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cait |
dcook: i agree |
| 23:33 |
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cait |
it is the entire record |
| 23:33 |
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dcook |
Well, the element set name should be defined in "retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml" |
| 23:33 |
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dcook |
I don't think there is a way to check available element set names from yaz :S |
| 23:33 |
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dcook |
Which seems silly to me personally |
| 23:33 |
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dcook |
cait: Yeah, I wonder why that is.. |
| 23:34 |
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dcook |
When you index Zebra, do you use the -x flag? |
| 23:34 |
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cait |
hm not always |
| 23:34 |
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cait |
we can try that |
| 23:34 |
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dcook |
It might be worthwhile to try it |
| 23:35 |
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cait |
hm did |
| 23:36 |
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dcook |
And still no luck? |
| 23:38 |
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cait |
bad news |
| 23:38 |
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wahanui |
bad news is that you're probably royally screwed |
| 23:38 |
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cait |
now my serach is broken |
| 23:38 |
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dcook |
:S |
| 23:38 |
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dcook |
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. |
| 23:39 |
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cait |
yeah def |
| 23:39 |
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cait |
all i changed is facets to 1 |
| 23:39 |
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cait |
nothing in the logs |
| 23:39 |
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cait |
restarted zebra |
| 23:40 |
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cait |
no errors on indexing |
| 23:40 |
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cait |
i have no clue |
| 23:40 |
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dcook |
Hmm, well, I've thought more about the element set name in any case |
| 23:40 |
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dcook |
But that's probably not it, I have a feeling it's something with your whole... setup? |
| 23:41 |
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dcook |
So search is broken in koha? |
| 23:41 |
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dcook |
What happens if you try it in yaz-client now? |
| 23:41 |
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cait |
yeah but it worked before |
| 23:44 |
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dcook |
cait: Are you able to get results back in yaz-client? |
| 23:44 |
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dcook |
just using "format xml" and "elements" |
| 23:44 |
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dcook |
and - of course - "find test" and "show 1" |
| 23:45 |
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cait |
yes |
| 23:48 |
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cait |
works |
| 23:48 |
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dcook |
Hmm, so something is up with Koha |
| 23:48 |
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dcook |
:S |
| 23:49 |
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dcook |
Mind you, that z:id thing still bothers me.. |
| 23:49 |
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cait |
yeahme too |
| 23:50 |
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dcook |
Oh... it looks like we're creating that.. |
| 23:50 |
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dcook |
Using "biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl" |
| 23:51 |
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dcook |
<xslo:variable name="idfield" select="normalize-space(marc:datafield[@tag='999']/marc:subfield[@code='c'])"/> |
| 23:51 |
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dcook |
At least that's the version I have |
| 23:51 |
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dcook |
And that's what I'm getting in my z:id.. |
| 23:51 |
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| 23:52 |
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dcook |
Not sure what's happening with your records, cait :S |
| 23:53 |
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cait |
<xslo:attribute name="z:id"> |
| 23:53 |
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cait |
<xslo:value-of select="$idfield"/> |
| 23:53 |
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cait |
</xslo:attribute> |
| 23:53 |
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cait |
? |
| 23:53 |
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dcook |
Yeah |
| 23:53 |
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cait |
<xslo:variable name="idfield" select="normalize-space()"/> |
| 23:53 |
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cait |
there |
| 23:53 |
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dcook |
O_o |
| 23:53 |
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cait |
let me try yours |
| 23:53 |
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dcook |
Interesting |
| 23:53 |
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wahanui |
Interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 23:54 |
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dcook |
k |
| 23:54 |
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dcook |
I'll also look at the git.. |
| 23:54 |
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dcook |
Yeah, mine is the same as the git |
| 23:55 |
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dcook |
(at least in that spot) |
| 23:55 |
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cait |
gah no change |
| 23:55 |
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cait |
hm |
| 23:55 |
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cait |
maybe |
| 23:55 |
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cait |
my files are not up to date? |
| 23:55 |
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dcook |
That's what I'm wondering |
| 23:55 |
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wahanui |
wondering is anyone has any good z39.5 libraries that have already cataloged Scholastic books. Having a hard time finding any of the scholastic books for the school that I work at. |
| 23:56 |
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dcook |
Of course, "biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl" is created by.. |
| 23:56 |
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dcook |
koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl |
| 23:56 |
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wahanui |
koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl is still used. |
| 23:56 |
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dcook |
<xslo:variable name="idfield"> |
| 23:56 |
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dcook |
55 <xsl:attribute name="select">normalize-space(<xsl:value-of select="//kohaidx:id"/>)</xsl:attribute> |
| 23:56 |
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dcook |
56 </xslo:variable> |
| 23:57 |
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cait |
hm what are you saying? |
| 23:57 |
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dcook |
Well, maybe your files are up-to-date is what I'm thinking |
| 23:57 |
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dcook |
I don't even see a //kohaidx:id in "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml" in the git |
| 23:57 |
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dcook |
Give me just a few secs |
| 23:58 |
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cait |
i think it's even more broke n than before |
| 23:58 |
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cait |
ok |
| 23:58 |
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dcook |
Ah, I see it now |
| 23:58 |
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dcook |
Not the overall thing |
| 23:58 |
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dcook |
But kohaidx:id |
| 23:59 |
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dcook |
Can you paste in the top of "etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml"? |
| 23:59 |
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dcook |
There should be a line "<id>marc:datafield[@tag='999']/marc:subfield[@code='c']</id>" near the top |
