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| 00:29 |
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dcook |
Ooo just learned about "corelist" |
| 00:29 |
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dcook |
That's neat |
| 00:29 |
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eythian |
what's that? |
| 00:29 |
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dcook |
It lets you know whether or not a Perl module is part of the core :) |
| 00:30 |
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eythian |
oh right |
| 00:30 |
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dcook |
I was wondering about that a bit... |
| 00:30 |
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dcook |
I mean... we don't include modules that in koha_perl_deps, which are part of the core |
| 00:30 |
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dcook |
But isn't CGI on its way out? |
| 00:30 |
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dcook |
I suppose we could just add that later of course.. |
| 00:30 |
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eythian |
it's on its way to being non-core |
| 00:30 |
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dcook |
Yeah |
| 00:31 |
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eythian |
I can special case that though, by doing something like 'depends: perl (<5.22) | libcgi-perl' |
| 00:31 |
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dcook |
Only for packages though |
| 00:32 |
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dcook |
We other suckers would need it in koha_perl_deps.pl as well |
| 00:32 |
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dcook |
Which isn't a big deal of course |
| 00:32 |
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dcook |
I wonder if koha_perl_deps would benefit from listing whether or not the module is a core module... |
| 00:33 |
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* eythian |
only cares about dependencies in packages. Anything more becomes a larger headache. |
| 00:33 |
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dcook |
True dat |
| 00:33 |
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dcook |
Hmm |
| 00:34 |
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dcook |
C4::Sip::Sip is actually packaged just as Sip... |
| 00:34 |
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dcook |
C4/SIP/Sip I suppose.. |
| 00:35 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 00:35 |
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eythian |
it's its own little namespace |
| 00:36 |
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dcook |
I didn't know that we did that :S |
| 00:36 |
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dcook |
Looks like the ILSDI stuff might do that as well? |
| 00:36 |
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eythian |
see also bug 7904 |
| 00:36 |
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dcook |
Hmm nope... must be something else |
| 00:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Passed QA , SIP modules handling of @INC is confused |
| 00:36 |
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eythian |
no, ilsdi I think crams a bunch of packages into one file |
| 00:36 |
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eythian |
something like that does that anyway |
| 00:36 |
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eythian |
it's very AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa |
| 00:37 |
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dcook |
oai.pl |
| 00:37 |
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* dcook |
shudders |
| 00:37 |
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dcook |
But yay for bug 7904 |
| 00:37 |
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eythian |
that's the one |
| 00:37 |
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dcook |
There is "use ILS" somewhere... not sure what that's for yet |
| 00:38 |
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dcook |
That's also for SIP it seems |
| 00:38 |
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dcook |
Ah, that's part of the bug too |
| 00:38 |
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dcook |
Sweet as |
| 00:39 |
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eythian |
oh, the ILS.pm in Sip looks interesting |
| 00:39 |
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* eythian |
ignores that for now and gets back to authority searching |
| 00:41 |
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eythian |
I had a realisation the other day that authority searching is a /lot/ more strict than biblio searching. |
| 00:41 |
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eythian |
this makes life easier |
| 00:41 |
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eythian |
no having to parse free-form search queries |
| 00:42 |
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dcook |
Oooh. That's nice :) |
| 00:43 |
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dcook |
Some day I'll look at query parsing again.. |
| 00:43 |
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eythian |
https://i.imgur.com/5zuupyE.jpg |
| 00:47 |
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dcook |
hehe |
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| 00:56 |
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dcook |
Hmm... what's support like for EDS? |
| 00:56 |
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dcook |
It looks like it uses "LWP" |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
talk to rangi if you're working on that, he's going to be doing some work with it some time soon probably |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
I can't remember the exact scope though |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
but it'll involve genericising all that stuff |
| 00:57 |
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dcook |
Ah, I'm not working on it. I'm just looking at what modules are being loaded up by stuff |
| 00:57 |
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eythian |
ah, ok |
| 00:57 |
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dcook |
Double-checking deps and what not |
| 00:58 |
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dcook |
Looks like Try::Tiny is also used in EDS and a maintenance script |
| 00:59 |
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dcook |
I might just make a bug for this... or maybe email the listserv.. |
| 01:02 |
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eythian |
it would be interesting to have something that scans what modules are used that aren't included in the dependency list |
| 01:02 |
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dcook |
Agreed |
| 01:02 |
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dcook |
I'm not sure how one would go about it |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
although, if in general, they'll get picked up when I do builds |
| 01:03 |
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dcook |
At the moment, I'm just grepping the hell out of everything |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
as the 00-load.t will fail |
| 01:03 |
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dcook |
Oo what's 00-load.t? |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
(but it does deliberately skip some things) |
| 01:03 |
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dcook |
Looks like "English" gets used by a few scripts as well |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
it's a test case to check that every module can be parsed. |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
is English not core? |
| 01:03 |
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dcook |
Ah, but English is core |
| 01:04 |
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dcook |
I just tried one of these "sh find-perl-modules.sh | xargs corelist" |
| 01:04 |
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dcook |
Kinda handy |
| 01:04 |
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dcook |
I'm sure I'm probably missing something somewhere though |
| 01:04 |
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dcook |
And just ignoring Koha|C4|Sip|ILS atm |
| 01:04 |
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dcook |
Lots of egrep followed by an awk and a sort -u |
| 01:05 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I misised the PDF modules somehow.. |
| 01:05 |
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dcook |
missed* |
| 01:07 |
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dcook |
Ah, I see.. |
| 01:14 |
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dcook |
Hmm |
| 01:15 |
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dcook |
eythian: I wonder if 00-load.tt just gets lucky sometimes? |
| 01:16 |
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eythian |
whaddaya mean? |
| 01:16 |
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dcook |
I don't see "URI" in koha_perl_deps.pl |
| 01:16 |
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dcook |
And it's not core |
| 01:16 |
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dcook |
But it's used by PazPar2 |
| 01:16 |
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dcook |
Which is loaded by 00-load.tt |
| 01:16 |
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dcook |
But we do have URI in our system for some reason |
| 01:17 |
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eythian |
could be it's pulled in as part of something else |
| 01:18 |
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dcook |
I figure that must be it |
| 01:18 |
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eythian |
my package builds are done in a cleanroom type environment, so if it doesn't end up in there, it'll fail. |
| 01:18 |
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dcook |
Ahh, that's good :) |
| 01:19 |
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dcook |
Then when something is missing you add it to koha_perl_deps.pl and make a deb package for it? |
| 01:19 |
|
eythian |
well |
| 01:19 |
|
eythian |
it depends |
| 01:20 |
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eythian |
debian/control is generated from C4::Installer::PerlDependencies |
| 01:20 |
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eythian |
if it doesn't end up in there, then it'll fail. |
| 01:20 |
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eythian |
typically I just report a bug on it. |
| 01:20 |
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eythian |
sometimes fix it myself. |
| 01:20 |
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eythian |
I try to encourage people from just assuming I can make a package, as it's happened before that it's not always possible |
| 01:21 |
|
eythian |
sometimes it requires updating half the universe, sometimes they're not copyleft, etc. |
| 01:21 |
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eythian |
s/encourage/discourage/ |
| 01:21 |
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dcook |
Mmm, yeah, I think you've said that before |
| 01:22 |
|
dcook |
Cool beans |
| 01:22 |
|
dcook |
Well, I figure any issues with Koha will find their way out individually rather than a big sweep.. |
| 01:22 |
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dcook |
So perhaps I'll just focus on making sure we track any extra modules we add locally... |
| 01:24 |
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eythian |
yeah, it's part of periodically building a master package, they can get spotted quickly. |
| 01:24 |
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eythian |
Though the biggest issue I have is people making test cases that require a database to be present. |
| 01:25 |
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eythian |
if you add the modules to C4::..PerlDeps, then it'll just follow it around happily |
| 01:25 |
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dcook |
Yeah the database dependent ones seem suboptimal |
| 01:25 |
|
dcook |
I'll keep that in mind :) |
| 01:25 |
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dcook |
The C4::..PerlDeps thing that is |
| 01:25 |
|
dcook |
Well both :p |
| 01:28 |
|
dcook |
Ah, it turns out that CGI "is" listed in C4...PerlDeps |
| 01:28 |
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dcook |
That's cool |
| 01:31 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, we list a few core modules |
| 01:31 |
|
dcook |
Data::Dumper too |
| 01:31 |
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eythian |
innit core too? |
| 01:31 |
|
eythian |
or just everywhere... |
| 01:31 |
|
eythian |
oh, I see |
| 01:31 |
|
eythian |
there's no harm in listing them |
| 01:31 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, it's core |
| 01:31 |
|
dcook |
Nope, no harm at all |
| 01:32 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I'd almost prefer everything were listed |
| 01:32 |
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eythian |
though, it makes my update-dependecies script run slower, but I probably shouldn't run it in a RAM constrained VM anyway. |
| 01:33 |
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dcook |
update-dependencies? |
| 01:34 |
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eythian |
update-control I meant |
| 01:34 |
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dcook |
Mmm |
| 01:34 |
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dcook |
If it's in core, would it also have a debian package? |
| 01:34 |
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dcook |
Or sometimes yes, sometimes no? |
| 01:34 |
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eythian |
generally no |
| 01:35 |
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dcook |
So that could get dicey |
| 01:35 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I always figured DBI would be core |
| 01:35 |
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eythian |
$ dpkg -S Data/Dumper.pm |
| 01:35 |
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eythian |
perl: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20.1/Data/Dumper.pm |
| 01:35 |
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eythian |
so, it's in perl |
| 01:35 |
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eythian |
no, my update script understands that things might be core |
| 01:35 |
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eythian |
(well, it's mostly liw's update script, I've just change it a bit.) |
| 01:36 |
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dcook |
Speaking of liw, I was thinking of you last night, eythian, as I was deciding which Ubuntu release to use |
| 01:36 |
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dcook |
I like 14.04 so far, but 14.10 has the latest Obnam... |
| 01:36 |
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dcook |
Which reminds me I forgot to bring in my backup drive today.. |
| 01:37 |
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eythian |
I tend to run the latest ubuntu for desktops, but I tend to recommend the latest LTS to other people, paradoxically/hyocritically. |
| 01:38 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 01:38 |
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dcook |
Makes sense |
| 01:38 |
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dcook |
I suppose the average person doesn't want to upgrade every year |
| 01:39 |
|
eythian |
6 months, but yeah |
| 01:39 |
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dcook |
I thought it was 9 months of support? |
| 01:39 |
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eythian |
it is, but there's a new release every 6 months |
| 01:39 |
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dcook |
I guess you wouldn't necessarily want to be at the start or end.. |
| 01:39 |
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dcook |
Ah, righto |
| 01:46 |
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eythian |
ok, ugly old authorities query now turned into a nicer hash form, now to turn that into an actual ES query. |
| 01:54 |
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dcook |
Oh wow... just received a bundle of Christmas presents from my grandmother |
| 01:54 |
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* dcook |
thinks it took the boat a while to get to Sydney |
| 01:55 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 01:56 |
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dcook |
Apparently it only takes 2 days to get something shipped from Amazon though :p |
| 01:57 |
|
eythian |
it takes forever to get amazon things to here. |
| 01:57 |
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eythian |
well, last time I did it |
| 01:58 |
|
eythian |
usually the shipping cost is ridiculous at the same time |
| 02:00 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I haven't bought anything from Amazon yet, but the time/shipping cost are the factors that would get me :/ |
| 02:04 |
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dcook |
Hehe. I don't know what "GD.pm" does, but I like its name |
| 02:04 |
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eythian |
graphicsy things, iirc |
| 02:04 |
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dcook |
Ah yeah. Something with barcodes it seems. |
| 02:04 |
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dcook |
That's not as amusing as I was thinking |
| 02:04 |
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eythian |
yeah, lets you use drawing primitives to output a png |
| 02:07 |
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* dcook |
thumbs up |
| 02:32 |
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eythian |
dcook: when you do an authority search, |
| 02:32 |
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eythian |
oh, never mind |
| 02:32 |
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wahanui |
Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. |
| 02:32 |
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eythian |
thanks for helping |
| 02:33 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:33 |
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dcook |
:) |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
I wonder why the authorities code makes one name to another: |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
elsif ( @$tags[$i] eq "mainentry" ) { |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
$attr = " \@attr 1=Heading "; |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
} |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
there's a few options like that |
| 02:42 |
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eythian |
maybe it's an old name to a new name |
| 02:48 |
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eythian |
beer o'clock in 12 minutes, followed by whisk(e)y o'clock |
| 02:49 |
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eythian |
my Japanese whiskey arrived today, which was handy too. |
| 02:53 |
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dcook |
Mmm |
| 02:53 |
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* dcook |
is jealous of the Catalyst folk and their booze |
| 02:54 |
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eythian |
wellington is nice this time of year, just sayin'... |
| 02:57 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:57 |
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dcook |
I need to look at my vacation leave again... |
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| 02:57 |
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dcook |
And possibly wait until we get some money back from these vet bills |
| 02:57 |
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dcook |
Turns out giving your cat radiation therapy is about $2000 |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
Well, a radioactive capsule |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
Hopefully insurance will cover most of that though |
| 02:58 |
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eythian |
ouch, not cheap. |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
Nopes |
| 02:58 |
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eythian |
can't you just feed them a lot of bananas? |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
Plus he'll be radioactive for a while so we're putting him up in boarding for a while |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:58 |
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dcook |
I forgot about the banana thing |
| 02:59 |
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dcook |
Well, it's quite interesting. He has hyperthyroidism. |
| 02:59 |
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dcook |
Which apparently is caused by a cancerous growth in the thyroid gland. |
| 02:59 |
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dcook |
Same thing happens with humans. |
| 02:59 |
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eythian |
ah yep |
| 02:59 |
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dcook |
So they give you some radioactive iodine, which gets absorbed into the gland, and apparently the growth shrinks/is destroyed |
| 03:00 |
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dcook |
One day I will visit Wellington though, especially on a Friday ;) |
| 03:00 |
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eythian |
that's the inverse of how you plan for nuclear fallout/exploding reactors. |
| 03:00 |
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dcook |
As for the authority stuff... |
| 03:00 |
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dcook |
I wonder that too |
| 03:01 |
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dcook |
Hmmm? |
| 03:01 |
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dcook |
So what you're saying is... if I would've just taken him near a exploding reactor, I wouldn't have to pay $2000... ;) |
| 03:01 |
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eythian |
stock up on normal iodine, so that the radioactive stuff doesn't get absorbed into your thyroid causing cancer. |
| 03:02 |
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eythian |
I think Finland did it around Chernobyl time |
| 03:02 |
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dcook |
Huh... interesting! |
| 03:02 |
|
wahanui |
i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 03:03 |
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dcook |
Apparently it's used as a preventative for breast cancer |
| 03:03 |
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dcook |
"the FDA recommends 165 mg of iodine to prevent thyroid cancer in the event of a radiation emergency" |
| 03:04 |
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dcook |
Learn something new everyday |
| 03:08 |
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eythian |
right, things pushed, now it's beer o'clock. |
| 03:08 |
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eythian |
bye! |
| 03:11 |
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dcook |
laters eythian |
| 03:22 |
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dcook |
@later tell eythian When you use EDS for your clients, do you turn LWP into a debian package? Or is it provided by a different one? |
| 03:22 |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:22 |
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dcook |
Don't think it's provided by anything else.. |
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dcook |
Huh... LWP is there... |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
I wonder if it's just part of LWP::UserAgent |
| 04:06 |
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dcook |
Or it's part of libwww-perl... |
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dcook |
@later tell eythian Nevermind. I see that LWP.pm is included in libwww-perl, which you already have in koha-perldeps :) |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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malik |
Hello to All : I am working on Active Directory integration with koha. Can anyone have an idea about this that how to install AD on ubuntu because i have my koha on ubuntu and i don't have window server |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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fridolin |
hie all |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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cait |
morning |
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cait |
Joubu: around? |
| 08:31 |
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Joubu |
cait: yep |
| 08:35 |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
going to test again here in our 3.18.3 |
| 08:35 |
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cait |
give me a second |
| 08:35 |
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cait |
(serial expiration) |
| 08:36 |
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cait |
ok, i am on the serial subscription page, using the filters to the left - the expiration date of the subscription is 1.3.2015 |
| 08:36 |
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Joubu |
cait: I tried on master |
| 08:36 |
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cait |
using expires before 01.01.2016 finds it |
| 08:36 |
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cait |
Joubu: i did this mornign - but don't have a master here |
| 08:36 |
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cait |
i tried with and without the patch |
| 08:37 |
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cait |
interesting, you are right, it works now here |
| 08:37 |
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Joubu |
cait: Ho! I wasn't! It was a 3.18.x too |
| 08:37 |
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cait |
ok - so we retest on master? |
| 08:37 |
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Joubu |
ok, git checkout master and I retry :) |
| 08:37 |
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cait |
thx :) |
| 08:37 |
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cait |
wonder if it's some weird logic and only some dates fail (you never know :( ) |
| 08:38 |
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cait |
if you have to create a subscription, maybe you could try with the dates on the bug |
| 08:38 |
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Joubu |
same, it works with the same example |
| 08:38 |
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cait |
weird |
| 08:38 |
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cait |
i tried more than one time |
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cait |
hmpf. |
| 08:39 |
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cait |
hmm |
| 08:39 |
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cait |
could you check something? |
| 08:39 |
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cait |
do the filters go on the same field? |
| 08:41 |
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Joubu |
erk , does not work with 10/09/2014 |
| 08:41 |
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Joubu |
funny... |
| 08:45 |
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Joubu |
cait: actually it is in C4::Serials::GetExpirationDate, there are some check on the frequency, the number of issues, etc. |
| 08:45 |
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Joubu |
the enddate is not checked in these cases |
| 08:47 |
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cait |
ok, 2 filters, labelled the same, doing different htings? |
| 08:48 |
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cait |
Joubu: can we do something to make it more clear? not sure i understand it yet myself |
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Joubu |
cait: in the sub search, the check is done on subscription.end_date |
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Joubu |
actually the algorithm in "check expiration" is really awful: retrieve all subscriptions from the DB (with title and isbn match, but if don't provide them, retrieve all sub...) |
| 08:51 |
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Joubu |
and do some funny checks on length, frequency, etc. |
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Joubu |
do know if it is expired or not |
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Joubu |
s/do/to |
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cait |
sounds too complicated to work nicely |
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cait |
do we update the expiration date when we renew a subscription? |
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Joubu |
maybe it sounds complicated because of my English and I did not manage to explain correctly/easily... |
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Joubu |
yes, using GetExpirationDate :p |
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cait |
still confused i think :) |
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cait |
Joubu: so does it work... or does it not? |
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it does like the code wants it to work... |
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cait |
Joubu: i thik we display the subscription.enddate in the search result - but it is not used for the searhc |
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cait |
that's the confusing bit |
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cait |
it would be interesting to show the date the system calculated |
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cait: it's what it's done, I think. On checkexpiration.pl, I see: |
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Joubu |
78 my $expirationdate = GetExpirationDate($subscriptionid); |
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Joubu |
80 $subscription->{expirationdate} = $expirationdate; |
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cait |
hm ok |
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cait |
something for another bug maybe |
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cait |
to make it visually clear when we show a calculted date |
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cait |
calculated |
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Joubu |
What it certainly happen: the expiration date is not the same, depending on the page you use |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
not very clean |
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cait |
hm someone good with javacript regex? |
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cait |
hm found a workaround |
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paxed |
cait: window.location.hash? |
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cait |
i figured out a workaround - the probem is another script that comes as last and on click |
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Joubu |
khall: hi! Jacek have opened an interesting bug report (bug 13645). Do you have any idea on how could we do that in an elegant way? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13645 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha::Acquisition::Bookseller->search() performance / efficiency problems |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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cait |
hi oleonard |
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magnuse |
hm, on a completely fresh install of 3.18.3, when i enter a patron with "norwegian wovels", save and view the patron, the they show as garbled text. anyone else seen that? |
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cait |
not yet |
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cait |
but let me try |
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cait |
hm looking ok here |
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cait |
which page are you looking at? i used umlauts in the name |
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magnuse |
the member detail page /cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=1 |
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magnuse |
and the check out page |
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cait |
hm ok for umlauts here |
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cait |
äüö |
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cait |
can you give me your name? :) |
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magnuse |
HÃ¥vard |
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magnuse |
or did you mean Magnus? ;-) |
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magnuse |
looks ok in the db |
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magnuse |
umlauts are garbled too |
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magnuse |
works ok in one of my old, upgraded instances also running 3.18.3 |
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cait |
hm i tested in a new one |
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cait |
but updated from 3.18.2 i think |
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cait |
might be a new 3.18.3 not sure when we set it up |
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magnuse |
weird |
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drojf |
hi cait and magnuse |
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Joubu |
khall: around ? |
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khall |
what's up? |
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Joubu |
khall: I have retested bug 13021, and it looks ok here |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13021 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , DataTables server-side processing - guarantor search |
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Joubu |
could you confirm you correctly clean the cache? |
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khall |
ok, I'll retest and figure out what the heck is going on |
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Joubu |
Otherwise, it cans come from a bad formated json |
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khall |
I cleared the cache multiple times |
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Joubu |
caused by non escaped char |
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khall |
Joubu: I'm using the example patrons fwiw |
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khall |
no errors in the js console or the error log either |
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Joubu |
what do you search for? |
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Joubu |
ho wait, I got it |
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Joubu |
khall: it comes from b8989510ec8b6b58249707bf2ddc6cf80fbfef4d, bug 8096 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8096 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Card number twice on patron search results |
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Joubu |
it added new breaklins |
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Joubu |
khall: ok I have a patch |
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khall |
excellent! |
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Joubu |
khall: ok sent |
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Joubu |
khall: did you see my previous ping? |
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Joubu |
It was "khall: hi! Jacek have opened an interesting bug report (bug 13645). Do you have any idea on how could we do that in an elegant way?" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13645 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha::Acquisition::Bookseller->search() performance / efficiency problems |
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khall |
I'll take a look at that |
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oleonard |
I don't want to throw fuel on an email thread by that "other paul," but is there something to his contention that searching in 3.18 is slower? |
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oleonard |
My library's experience of 3.16 over 3.14 is that searching is significantly slower. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I suggest rewriting Zebra with pthreads. |
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jcamins |
It'll be awesome! |
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jcamins |
... as long as someone who isn't me does it. |
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goes to get some yogurt for breakfast. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Like I said, I'm not getting into that, but I would like serious discussion if anyone has any. |
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Joubu |
could be related to 13645 too |
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khall |
Joubu: I suppose we could make the schema and resultsets package level vars and make it a singleton perhaps? |
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khall |
and perhaps implement Koha::Cache for it |
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Joubu |
khall: using the same way as we do for C4::Context? |
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khall |
essentially, yes |
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magnuse |
oleonard: my server has seen higher load and slower everything after the upgrade from 3.16.7 to 3.18.3. but apache and mysql were updated at the same time, so there are a few "moving parts" |
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magnuse |
i suspect there is something amiss with my mysql config |
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khall |
I think as a general rule Koha adds additional complexity over time which leads to more processing which leads to less speed overall. |
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khall |
I think a solid REST api which can be leveraged by Koha itself would help a lot for overall speed |
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oleonard |
If that's true khall then Koha will inevitably get slower and slower until it is unusable. |
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khall |
oleonard: to some extent that is true, I am of course over-generalizing |
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khall |
the solution is to make a page do less ( at least on initial load ) |
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magnuse |
one one my munin grpahs called "http loadtime of a page" shows the loadtime ~doubling after the upgrade |
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khall |
however, some complexity just can't be avoided ( checkins and checkouts behavior for example ) |
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magnuse |
uptimerobot shows a less dramatic increase, but still a visible difference |
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magnuse |
plackify all the things! |
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khall |
here here! |
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oleonard |
How can we make quantitative judgements about how updates to Koha change various primary functions like check in checkout and searching? |
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khall |
relative subroutine call timings via unit tests? |
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khall |
can Jenkins tell us anything useful? |
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magnuse |
i took a shot at that with https://github.com/digibib/kohaprofile |
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khall |
neat! magnuse++ |
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magnuse |
maybe i should try running it again, to see if there is a difference for 3.18 |
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magnuse |
it needs some more meaningful tests, i think |
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magnuse |
patches welcome ;-) |
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drojf |
magnuse++ |
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cait |
magnuse++ |
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Joubu |
thanks khall! |
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khall |
np! |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 2.0°C (3:50 PM CET on January 30, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 28.74 in 973 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
:/ |
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drojf |
/o/ into the cold… later #koha |
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reiveune |
bye |
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bye |
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mtompset |
Out of curiosity, the crowdfunding page that Bywater put up recently... those funds go where and how? |
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bag |
mtompset: the fund come to bywater - but it doesn't totally mean that bywater is doing the development - things could be shared to other developers etc. But bywater would be the fund manager and project manager from that bywater hosted site |
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mtompset |
So, if I go, "Oooo... I like that project," and as a develop report the bug, take the bug, and code the bug. I could ask for the funds raised? |
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mtompset |
^develop^developer^ |
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mtompset |
Have a great weekend, #koha. |
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