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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
hi, gaetan_B |
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Joubu |
info: bug 11944 breaks the installer, follow-up coming soon |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
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magnuse |
Joubu++ |
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magnuse |
@karma |
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huginn |
magnuse: Highest karma: "cait" (185), "gmcharlt" (153), and "tcohen" (138). Lowest karma: "^" (-10), "-" (-10), and "ie" (-10). You (magnuse) are ranked 11 out of 342. |
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magnuse |
who can reset that for the new year? |
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Joubu |
@karma |
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huginn |
Joubu: Highest karma: "cait" (185), "gmcharlt" (153), and "tcohen" (138). Lowest karma: "^" (-10), "-" (-10), and "ie" (-10). You (Joubu) are ranked 6 out of 342. |
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Joubu |
whaou |
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Joubu |
ie-- |
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Joubu |
@karma |
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huginn |
Joubu: Highest karma: "cait" (185), "gmcharlt" (153), and "tcohen" (138). Lowest karma: "ie" (-11), "^" (-10), and "-" (-10). You (Joubu) are ranked 6 out of 342. |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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Joubu |
better :) |
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cait |
hm i think there should be an IRC meeting about now |
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cait |
my meeting got cancelled, will be back in 5 mins if we want to have one |
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ashimema |
ooh.. meeting |
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Joubu |
* AGREED: The next meeting will be held on 14 January 2015 at 10 UTC |
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cait |
hm is that now or later? |
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cait |
aah it's at "11" - 40 minutes |
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ashimema |
done |
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ashimema |
sent a reminder to the list.. bit late but hopefulyl some may see it |
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magnuse |
ashimema++ |
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cait |
ashimema++ thx! |
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thd |
ashimema: Could we discuss your ideas for the wiki? |
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ashimema |
hi thd |
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ashimema |
did you just call? |
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ashimema |
i was in a call and a colleague picked up. |
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thd |
Yes ashimema |
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wahanui |
well, ashimema is on qa now .) |
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ashimema |
i'll be about for another 20 mins or so.. then I have another call so will be trying to dip in and out of the two meetings :( |
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thd |
ashimema: I suggest that we try to reach a consensus or at least a common understanding about the wiki. |
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jransom |
hi everyone: jo ransom, horowhenua (nz) |
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thd |
ashimema Is there some time we could talk on telephone? |
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ashimema |
Hi jo.. meeting hasn't quite started yet.. but when it does stick an #info infront of that ;) |
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jransom |
cheers |
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ashimema |
sure thd.. erm.. remind me. where are you based? |
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thd |
ashimema: I am based in New York City but would be happy to call you wherever. |
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ashimema |
I can skype out to you to keep the costs down.. as I said I'm a little tied this morning (UK time) |
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ashimema |
hmm.. your lateish afternoon over there right now right.. |
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thd |
ashimema: I saw your criticisms while I was in California but I did not have any opportunity until now to try to communicate with you properly. |
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thd |
It is 5 am in NYC. |
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ashimema |
they were meant to be constructive btw.. hope they're werent too nasty sounding.. |
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ashimema |
oh.. 5am.. i was thinking it was 5pm.. |
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thd |
Nothing was nasty and you have some good ideas |
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ashimema |
early riser then ;) |
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thd |
I have the time to implement any good ideas or at least I expect to start to have proper time from mid-February. |
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ashimema |
cool.. |
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thd |
ashimema: I think you are also a little confused about the function of some installed extensions. |
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wahanui |
okay, thd. |
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thd |
ashimema: When would be a good time to talk on telephone? |
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cait |
ok, it's about meeting time now but i might get called awy... |
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cait |
who is around for the meeting and would maybe be willing to take over chair/chair? |
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ashimema |
I should be free for a chat between 7am and 11am your time today if that helps |
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ashimema |
i was just working that out ;) |
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ashimema |
i'm getting called away any minute too cait :( |
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thd |
ashimema: I suggest we defer decisions about wiki management until the next general meeting while we discuss options. |
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BobB |
hi all |
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ashimema |
I'm fine with that.. makes reasonable sense.. |
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cait |
ok, i wil start it and we see what happens? |
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ashimema |
especially as neither of us has too much time at the minute to start implementing anything we discuss/decide upon.. delaying a decision won't delay the action.. yet |
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thd |
ashimema: What number should I call at 7 am EST? |
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cait |
#startmeeting General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Jan 14 10:01:23 2015 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__14th_january_2015' |
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cait |
#topic Introductions |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015) |
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BobB |
ashimena there is only one meeting today: a decision of the last meeting' |
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cait |
please introduce yourself with #info |
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BobB |
#info Bob Birchall, Calyx Australia |
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thd |
ashimema: I am at +1 212-674-3783 |
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cait |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_14_January_2015 |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart, BibLibre |
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jransom |
#info joann ransom, horowhenua, nz. |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
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paul_p |
#info Paul Poulain, BibLibre |
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ashimema |
cheers thd.. I'll call you :) |
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thd |
#info: Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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paul_p |
(hello all, and good morning, evening, afternoon, or night night) |
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BobB |
hi paul_p |
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cait |
ok, moving on :) |
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cait |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015) |
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cait |
paul_p: hackfest maybe? :) |
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paul_p |
cait what kind of announcement would you like ? ;-) |
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BobB |
#info Asian Cup: Australia 4 Oman 0 |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
that there is one .) |
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cait |
but i will take anything |
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paul_p |
as already announced on koha-devel : Hackfest in Marseille will take place in March, 2nd-6th. It will take place in 2 locations (20mn distant), so we should have a lot of space |
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paul_p |
bag told me that he expect to have ElasticSearch search working & ready to be tested for the hackfest |
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cait |
#info The hackfest in Marseille is from Marc 2nd - 6th and will take place in 2 locations (20 mins apart) |
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ashimema |
I'm just booking hotels and flights paul_p.. just bending colinc's arm, alex will be there for the whole period and I hope to join for at least half (with baby on the way that's a bit up in the air ;) ) |
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paul_p |
there are already many registrations, and that will be a great time :D |
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BobB |
sadly not us |
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paul_p |
ashimema ++++ ! |
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cait |
paul_p: google doc? ;) |
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ashimema |
will register properly once I know exact details of our lot this end |
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paul_p |
cait should come soon |
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cait |
hotel is booked for me,still waiting for the train tickets - were not available last time i tried :) |
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cait |
ok, something else? |
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paul_p |
I don't think so. |
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cait |
#topic Updates on Releases |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates on Releases (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015) |
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cait |
I think we are a bit short on RM and RMaints this meeting |
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cait |
but it looks like all is quite well on track I think |
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BobB |
mtj about? |
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mtj |
hi all |
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BobB |
#info I know Mason is on track to release 3.16.7 on 22 Jan |
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cait |
#info UTF-8 patches got pushed to master yesterday - keep an eye out for any encoding problems |
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mtj |
..sorry, didnt realise a meeting was on |
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BobB |
ah sorry mtj |
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* fridolin |
i'm here |
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cait |
updates on the releases? :) |
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* mtj |
reads the scrollback |
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Joubu |
cait: installer is broken, patch sent this morning |
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cait |
ah ok |
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fridolin |
i m adding only a few patches on 3.14.x to keep a stable version |
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cait |
do you have the bug number for testing? |
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paul_p |
I'd like to see HEA backported to previous versions. And maybe activated by default (because, for now, there's "no-one" that has activated it : only 53, most of them -if not all- come from BibLibre) |
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fridolin |
since there is 3.16;x and 3.18.x |
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cait |
paul_p: i think activating by default is highly critical |
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Joubu |
cait: bug 13577 fixes the installer problem |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The correct COLLATE set to all DB tables |
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Joubu |
blocker, NSO |
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paul_p |
cait what do you mean by "highly critical" ? |
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cait |
#info please test bug 13577 to fix a problem with the installer |
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cait |
we shoud not have a koha that calls out to another website by default |
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cait |
i know we don't transmit personal information, but it shoudl still be opt-in |
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mveron |
#info Marc Véron, marc veron ag / Koha Support Schweiz |
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ashimema |
ooh.. thanks for the reminder paul.. |
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ashimema |
I've been meaning to activate our 3.18's |
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paul_p |
ashimema ;-) |
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cait |
maybe we could put it in the newsletter? |
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mtj |
#info i'll be pushing some commits to the 3.16 branch over the next few days |
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Joubu |
paul_p: Maybe a mail on the koha ml + the news letter could be useful |
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cait |
today was the call |
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paul_p |
cait + Joubu ++ ! |
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paul_p |
Joubu I let you drop an email about that, OK ? |
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Joubu |
paul_p: k |
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cait |
ready to move on to the next topic? |
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cait |
#action Joubu will send info about HEA to the mailing list and the newsletter |
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cait |
paul_p: also a thing to keep in mind - many people might not have updated to 3.18 yet |
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BobB |
cait, joubu ++ |
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cait |
will take us some more time too |
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cait |
#topic KohaCon15 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon15 (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015) |
| 10:13 |
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paul_p |
cait yes, of course. And that's why that would be good to have it backported ! |
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mtj |
paul_p: i'd be keen to backport HEA to 3.16 |
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paul_p |
and we've already done it for 3.14 |
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paul_p |
(as most of our customers are using it) |
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mtj |
awesome ^ |
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paul_p |
let's submit the patch then ;-) ( Joubu / fridolin = can you take care of that pls ) |
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cait |
mtj: want an #action? :) |
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BobB |
#action mtj to backport HEA to 3.16 |
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mtj |
yes please :0) |
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cait |
#action Joubu or fridolin to submit HEA patches for 3.16 |
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Joubu |
will have a look, yes |
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cait |
#action mtj to backport HEA into 3.16 |
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cait |
I'd also like to see a statement on the hea page about what is /can be stored |
| 10:15 |
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fridolin |
ok, whe have a 3.14 version indeed |
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fridolin |
squashed patches |
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Joubu |
cait: aleisha is working on Hea |
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cait |
Joubu: cool |
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cait |
ok, nothing for kohacon i think? |
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cait |
I will move on? |
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cait |
#topic Actions from the last meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Actions from the last meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015) |
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cait |
we got the roadmap on the agenda |
| 10:17 |
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cait |
BobB: I saw you did some work on it? |
| 10:17 |
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BobB |
#link: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Roadmap_for_Koha |
| 10:17 |
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BobB |
So that is the proposal I guesss: needs feedback ... |
| 10:17 |
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BobB |
and if it is ok, folks can start to populate it |
| 10:18 |
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cait |
i like the text - read it before the meeting |
| 10:18 |
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cait |
BobB++ |
| 10:18 |
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paul_p |
sorry, about the KohaCon, i've something to say ! |
| 10:18 |
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paul_p |
(was AFK due to another call...) |
| 10:18 |
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BobB |
go ahead paul_p |
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cait |
let's talk about the raodmap first and come back to the con? |
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paul_p |
fine ! |
| 10:19 |
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BobB |
ah, sorry , what cait said |
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paul_p |
(as I just receive an email about the kohacon15 NOW !) |
| 10:19 |
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paul_p |
reading it... |
| 10:19 |
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cait |
BobB: shoudl we put the wiki page on the mailing list? |
| 10:19 |
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cait |
asking people to add? |
| 10:20 |
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BobB |
yep, ok, will i do that? |
| 10:20 |
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ashimema |
added 5 libraries to HEA for you paul_p ;) |
| 10:20 |
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ashimema |
will get collegues to keep going through the list |
| 10:20 |
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cait |
BobB: it would be nice if you could |
| 10:21 |
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BobB |
#action BobB to email the list to ask for contributions to the Road Map |
| 10:21 |
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cait |
#action BobB will send an email about the Roadmap wiki page to the mailing list |
| 10:21 |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
heh |
| 10:21 |
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BobB |
Is everyone here ok with the idea / text? |
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cait |
i am :) |
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cait |
+1 |
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mveron |
+1 |
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ashimema |
+1 |
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BobB |
ok, cool |
| 10:23 |
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thd |
+1 |
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cait |
:) |
| 10:23 |
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cait |
#topic KohaCon14 (cont.) |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon14 (cont.) (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015) |
| 10:23 |
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cait |
paul_p: nwo :) |
| 10:23 |
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cait |
now even |
| 10:23 |
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paul_p |
chris & I have some emails with ppl from Ibadan. The organisation is moving on. The proposed location cost quite a lot of money (international & diplomatic location). So we're wondering whether that's the best option. Other locations (like in a university) would be much cheaper, but ppl could fear about security. |
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paul_p |
so, still to be decided, but things are moving ;-) |
| 10:24 |
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cait |
#info things are moving, location still to be decided |
| 10:24 |
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thd |
cait: Should that not be KohaCon15? |
| 10:24 |
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cait |
yes... it should be |
| 10:24 |
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paul_p |
hehe... |
| 10:24 |
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cait |
don't tell me doesn't happen to all of you currently :) |
| 10:24 |
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cait |
#info topic should be 15 ... not 14. |
| 10:25 |
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cait |
anything else? |
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thd |
paul_p: What is indicated that fear for security would be warranted at a university location? |
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paul_p |
what is you opinion about the location : a very safe one, in diplomatic area, with all safety, but cost 150USD/day all included |
| 10:25 |
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cait |
paul_p: for the participant? |
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paul_p |
or the university, where security would be more "standard" (the ibadan area being not in the unsafe part of nigeria) |
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cait |
thd: if you read up a bit about nigeria there are some warnings |
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paul_p |
cait = yep, 150USD for room, lunch, dinner,... |
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paul_p |
+ 1800USD/day for the conference room, that will have to be sponsored by someone |
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cait |
i see |
| 10:26 |
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paul_p |
cait = yep, 150USD for bedroom, lunch, dinner,... |
| 10:26 |
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thd |
cait: Yes, I know the general reports. |
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cait |
paul_p: not sure - it's quite a bit of money, bit worried about the local participation |
| 10:27 |
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paul_p |
anyone an opinion that I could feedback to the team ? |
| 10:27 |
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paul_p |
yep, that's also my 1st reaction : local or non nigerian but african participation. |
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jransom |
nigeria was on the 'no travel' list ladt time I looked on nz foreign affairs page so insurance is going to be imposdible. the secure place would be my preference but price is so high. |
| 10:28 |
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cait |
i thnk it's hard to tell from here - the organizers will know best about the local situation |
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paul_p |
150USD/day is fine for me, that's what costed the KohaCon in Nevada or Argentina, roughly. |
| 10:28 |
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cait |
jransom: similar here |
| 10:28 |
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ashimema |
same here jransom |
| 10:28 |
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paul_p |
cait organizers say it's safe. but of course they're black & nigerian... |
| 10:29 |
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thd |
I would like to know more about the specific security concern at a nearby university as distinct from known problematic places in Nigeria. |
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paul_p |
here it's "orange", which is better than "red" (northern part or nigeria), but worst than green or yellow... |
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paul_p |
OK, I'll feedback that to organizers. |
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thd |
paul_p: Where is the colour coded map? |
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BobB |
the problem is that you know the security situation now: you don't know what it will be in Oct |
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paul_p |
thd http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/[…]ys/nigeria-12319/ |
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BobB |
I would urge an abundance of caution |
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paul_p |
probably wise BobB ... |
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BobB |
There are Work Health and Safety issues for employers, just sayin' |
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jransom |
I agree. |
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paul_p |
thd click on "securité" tab |
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cait |
something we should add to the logs? |
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cait |
or minutes, it's all going into the logs of course |
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thd |
paul_p: Where is it green or yellow? |
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paul_p |
thd see argentina for example : http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/[…]/argentine-12200/ |
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jransom |
I fear it will an either /or situation: affordable and high local participation vs exp and moderate number of foreigners |
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paul_p |
thd mostly green, some parts yellow |
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Joubu |
no green or yellow in nigeria :) |
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Joubu |
or :-/ |
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paul_p |
Joubu right... |
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paul_p |
maybe I should ask you : let's suppose it's tomorrow. would you go if it were in the diplomatic area ? would you go if it were in the university ? |
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thd |
paul_p: You should ask what might be done to mitigate the security concern at a local university. |
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jransom |
if tomorrow I would go to diplomatic area but not university |
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cait |
paul_p: I think it's unlikely I will go this year - not giving a vote |
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paul_p |
cait = imagine you've the budget, the time and the agreement from you boss. It's just to poll ;-) |
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jransom |
I guess the organisers will have to the best judgement calls they can, put together the package and offer up to the community. |
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cait |
jransom++ |
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Joubu |
What about Africans? Are they ready to come? |
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Joubu |
Africans from other countries I meant |
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paul_p |
Joubu don't know. |
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magnuse |
#info Magnus Enger, Libriotech |
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magnuse |
(sorry, was busy with other things) |
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thd |
Certainly, they ought to try to poll people who may be likely to come if they do not know how to decide otherwise. |
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paul_p |
OK, will report all that to organizers. Thanks for questions/advices/opinions |
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jransom |
if it was in ghana or kenya or south african, a university no problem, but nigeria has known security issues that have to be taken into consideration. is a different |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
moving on? |
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cait |
#topic Set date and time for the next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set date and time for the next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015) |
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thd |
If relatively few people would come in any case and those people would have sufficient funding then the issue may be easier to decide. |
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cait |
i'd like to propose february 11th, 19 UTC |
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cait |
i feel like we used to have good attendance at 19 UTC in the past, but might be wrong |
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cait |
and it would be 8horus from now, so shoudl get some of the people missing today |
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BobB |
worth a try |
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cait |
vetos? +1? :) |
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cait |
other suggestions? |
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cait |
i am bad with timezones, so hope my thinking is not wrong :) |
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thd |
Yes, I think we should take some measures to avoid worst times which have had almost no attendance. |
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oleonard |
+1 to not this time |
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cait |
19UTC oleonard? |
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cait |
11th february? |
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Joubu |
cait: not 10 UTC for oleonard :) |
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thd |
oleonard: There are worst times than this hour for you :) |
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cait |
don't leave me alone now people - please vote :) |
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thd |
+1 |
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oleonard |
19UTC works fairly well for me |
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Joubu |
+0 # not a good time, too late for me |
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BobB |
ouch will be 6am here |
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BobB |
but good in nz |
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cait |
hm moving it to 20utc better? |
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cait |
ah no |
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cait |
not for joubu |
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BobB |
18 UTC is ok |
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cait |
5am? |
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wahanui |
5am is probably early for me, with luck i'd have insomnia ;) |
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Joubu |
cait: the idea was to alternate, so it's good |
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BobB |
sorry I meant 19 |
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thd |
BobB would adjusting the time to 21 UTC work better? |
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cait |
shoudl we try 19 and see how it works out? |
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BobB |
there is no time that is good for everyone in the world |
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cait |
i think ideal is not achievable sadly |
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cait |
#info Next meeting is scheduled for 11th February, 19 UTC |
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BobB |
all good |
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thd |
BobB: Yes, we cannot make it good for everyone but we can make it least bad for many. |
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cait |
we can still discuss on ml if it causes bigger problems |
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cait |
#endmeeting |
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huginn |
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cait |
thx for attending everyone |
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Joubu |
cait: yep :) |
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BobB |
thank you cait |
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BobB |
We did not discuss the matter of the Wiki Curator and Communications manager |
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BobB |
Discussion on those topics is ongoing |
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BobB |
I will list them for next meeting |
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jransom |
and the funded position / fundraising / donatons. |
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BobB |
yes jo, also ongoing |
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BobB |
I think bag will be sure to list it for next time |
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jransom |
cool. I have an agenda to put tigether next week for trustees otherwise next month. |
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BobB |
jransom, bag and I are working on a paper for you this week |
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Joubu |
BobB, jransom: there are not in the agenda: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_14_January_2015 |
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BobB |
by what day do you need it? |
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thd |
BobB: ashimema and I are going to discuss ideas about wiki management. |
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Joubu |
s/there/they |
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jransom |
I know paul and brendan are eagef to get this cracking aling. |
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BobB |
joubu that is correct, I'm saying we'll add them for next meeting |
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BobB |
thx |
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cait |
i was not sure who would be around, so i kept the agenda open |
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jransom |
if we want it to got jis month I neeed |
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jransom |
scrap that ... |
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thd |
BobB: He had raised some criticisms but I could not communicate with him properly while I was away in California. |
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BobB |
yep, all good |
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BobB |
best we get these things right, rather than rush them |
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jransom |
I need to have anything by next thursday if we want it on this month's agenda |
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thd |
BobB: Communications manager needs a better definition or understanding of the intended role. |
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BobB |
ok jransom, that is enough time for us |
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BobB |
will get it to you by mid-week |
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* magnuse |
waves to jransom |
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* BobB |
waves to magnuse |
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thd |
BobB: It may be difficult to attract volunteers for a role for which the responsibilities are unclear. |
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BobB |
agreed, yes |
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thd |
BobB: The issue of ambiguity about what the Communications Manager would do was raised if I remember correctly again at the first meeting last time. |
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* magnuse |
waves to BobB |
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BobB |
feel free to email me (or the list) with any thoughts thd |
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thd |
BobB: What did the Maouri word which I do not remember but thought of as something like Communications Manager do that is different from your conception of communications manger? |
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BobB |
heaven knows, the only Maori I know is on the Koha wiki |
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magnuse |
kaitiaki? |
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magnuse |
nah, maybe not |
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thd |
magnuse: yes |
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BobB |
anyway, its bed time for me folks |
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BobB |
good night all |
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thd |
BobB: Do you remember when Koha had a kaitiaki? |
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thd |
Good night BobB. |
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BobB |
yes I do, nice concept, but don't get me started on governance at this hour, we'll both regret it :) |
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BobB |
night folks |
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ashimema |
back |
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thd |
jransom: Were you once the kaitiaki? |
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thd |
ashimema: You may have missed the discussion of no yellow or green bits on the security map for Nigeria. |
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magnuse |
hm, it looks like kaitiaki = guardian, so that might be more apt for jransom and hlt than for a "Communications Manager"? |
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* magnuse |
needs lunch |
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thd |
magnuse: I had thought that one of the functions had at one time been to publicise Koha when it was less well known. |
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gaetan_B |
i have a question on futureholds and the ConfirmFutureHolds syspref (bug 9761) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, CLOSED FIXED, Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time |
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gaetan_B |
i think i got it but not sure |
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gaetan_B |
does this mean that, if the value in this syspref is 3 |
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gaetan_B |
and i place a hold with a date in the future (20th of january for instance) |
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gaetan_B |
if the book is checked in on the 18th, the librarian will get an alert and will be able to confirm the hold and set the book aside for me |
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gaetan_B |
if the book is checked in on the 16th there will be no message and the book will be back on the shelves for normal circulation ? |
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gaetan_B |
extra question if i got this right : what about checking the book in on the 17th? |
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Joubu |
bug 13577 needs QA :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The correct COLLATE set to all DB tables |
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oleonard |
Hi again #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora oleonard |
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cait |
hi again oleonard ;) |
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magnuse |
hiya meliss and NateC |
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meliss |
hi magnuse |
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cait |
mveron: rotating collections doesn't seem to appearin the help files - so we shoudl be done with your patch :) |
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cait |
mveron++ |
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mveron |
hi cait :-) |
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cait |
mveron: can we rename other things too? medientyp to exemplartyp? :) |
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tcohen |
hi koha |
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mveron |
cait:What would be the new names for Medientyp and Exemplartyp? |
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cait |
Exemplartyp instead of Medientyp |
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cait |
because people always thing it has to do witht he materialtype shown in the record |
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cait |
hi tcohen |
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mveron |
cait: Ach so... I will ask librarians here. Maybe we could ask others on German list? |
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cait |
mveron: last time i got only one answer and lost :) but more people around now |
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cait |
maybe worth trying again |
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tw |
hello , everybody ! I want to know koha & elasticsearch (current state) |
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cait |
tw: it's still in development |
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cait |
that's what my impression is |
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cait |
you can find a bug on bugzlla that links to a branch with some/all? the work i think |
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tw |
thanks, cait |
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ashimema_ |
what she said |
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tw |
and then, i want to ask plack for koha (it's also in development) |
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tw |
right! |
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ashimema_ |
plack is closer I think.. |
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ashimema_ |
but turning it on is still not the most straight forward or documented thing |
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tw |
koha have turn to mvc framework |
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tw |
some new ides |
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tw |
some new idea! |
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tw |
like ruby on rails, php on laravel and some on.... |
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oleonard |
No. We are not going to re-write Koha in another language. |
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ashimema_ |
if you have an infinite amount of money and time to do such a migration.. go for it ;) |
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ashimema_ |
lol |
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Joubu |
ashimema(', ashimema_?): Did you see my private msg? |
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ashimema_ |
sorry Joubu.. not seen it yet.. |
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ashimema_ |
on the wrong computer at the minute whilst on the phone |
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Joubu |
ashimema: k :) |
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ashimema_ |
will try to finish this phone call soon |
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nengard |
oleonard around? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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nengard |
got a sec to help me with a jquery headache? :) |
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oleonard |
Sure |
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nengard |
woo hoo |
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nengard |
one sec i'll paste |
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bye |
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bye |
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DigitalZen |
hello |
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oleonard |
Hi DigitalZen |
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DigitalZen |
hi olenoard, I have a question about koha could you help me? |
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oleonard |
You can ask any question you like, and anyone who knows the answer can respond |
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DigitalZen |
awesome |
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wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, DigitalZen |
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mveron |
Bye #koha |
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DigitalZen |
I am trying to import a MARC file into Koha but the 952 tag is not being imported, how can i solve this issue? I am running Koha 3.18 on Debian |
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oleonard |
DigitalZen: How are you creating the MARC file? |
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DigitalZen |
I am exporting them from an Athena system then using MARCedit I changed the 852 tag into 952 |
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oleonard |
DigitalZen: Perhaps you could paste the text of an example MARC record at http://paste.koha-community.org/ ? |
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DigitalZen |
ok done |
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oleonard |
You'll have to share the link with us DigitalZen |
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DigitalZen |
http://paste.koha-community.or[…]bmit=Format+it%21 |
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oleonard |
I notice it doesn't have $a (home library) or $b (holding library) |
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DigitalZen |
oh ok, I have another MARC file from the same place but I used a perl script to format it would you like that one too |
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DigitalZen: For what it's worth, when I import the record you pasted it imports with an item |
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DigitalZen |
when you imported it did it have a barcode? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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oleonard |
34014000074551 |
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DigitalZen |
ok I think i see what my problem was, thanks for the help sorry I am new to asking for help on IRC :p have a good day |
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oleonard |
What was the problem DigitalZen? |
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DigitalZen |
I kept looking for the 952 tag in the MARC view on koha. The imports I did in the past was with a perl script that removed my barcodes so I tried doing it without it and I knew the Barcode was in 952p but when I didn't see the 952 tag in the marc view on koha and after searching on google alot i decided to ask for help in IRC. |
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oleonard |
DigitalZen: And now you see item information for your imported records? |
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DigitalZen |
oleonard: Yes I do |
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DigitalZen |
oleonard: I got to go Thanks again |
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* Nicole C. Engard: add second way to duplicate budget |
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Nicole C. Engard: update dup budget info |
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Nicole C. Engard: add new section for closing a budget by Denise Hannibal |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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bag |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi bag |
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bag |
meeting? |
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wahanui |
meeting is probably not today... but tomorrow |
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bag |
meeting notes? |
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bag |
note? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that note is not visible in opac i think? but in staff? |
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bag |
notes? |
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wahanui |
notes is the key :D |
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oleonard |
wahanui: Forget all that stuff. |
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wahanui |
oleonard, I didn't have anything matching all that stuff |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget meeting |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot meeting |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget notes |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot notes |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget note |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot note |
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bag |
@later tell ashimema congrats and good luck :) |
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Nicole C. Engard: update budgets section with links |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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nengard |
hi |
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cait |
academy_students++ |
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wizzyrea |
oh cait |
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wizzyrea |
regarding "report a security bug could be bigger" - it's quite huge here: http://koha-community.org/security/ |
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cait |
wizzyrea: it shows really small for me |
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wizzyrea |
on that page? |
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cait |
let#s see if my server has come back so i can show you |
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wizzyrea |
it's a giant blue link. |
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cait |
http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/pic_fc731a.png |
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cait |
i disagree :) |
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wizzyrea |
yeah, that one's on every page |
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wizzyrea |
look up at the top of that page. |
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wizzyrea |
Report a security issue in Koha |
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cait |
ah |
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wizzyrea |
that is a link |
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cait |
that link |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait |
I thik i just thought it was a heading |
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cait |
instead of the linkt to report |
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wizzyrea |
that's legitimate |
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cait |
could we make the link at the bottom look linky? (blue?) |
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* wizzyrea |
sics an academy student on the problem |
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cait |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
12352 illustrates the importance of a good bug report. |
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cait |
bug 12352 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Update patron records -page should have a link to patron details |
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wizzyrea |
any other website-y things? |
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wizzyrea |
sections you'd like added? |
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wizzyrea |
removed? |
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cait |
wizzyrea: did you see my update on the bug? |
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wizzyrea |
yeah, really helpful |
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wizzyrea |
the original though, it could have been clearer. |
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eythian |
hi |
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* dcook |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
cait: your bug reports are always awesome. :) |
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cait |
i wish :) |
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wizzyrea |
pft. |
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cait |
night :) |
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wizzyrea |
later cait :) |
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rangi |
bag: you about? |
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bag |
for a sec |
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bag |
rangi: |
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bag |
ok I have a meeting I’m running too - catch you later rangi |
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bag |
rangi: if it’s something urgent - shot me an email - I can check that on the go |
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rangi |
righto |
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rangi |
just wanted a test baker and taylor username to test a bug |
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anonymous |
can you check kohaacademy wizzyrea? |
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wizzyrea |
sure :) sorry was afk for a moment |
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anonymous |
no worries |
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barton |
hey #koha, I've just done a major overhaul on the 'Notices and Slips' page on the wiki. Please take a look. I'm soliciting comments (feel free to leave me a @later if I don't respond). |
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http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Notices_and_Slips |
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dcook |
You know... if LoC cared so much about RDA, you think they'd add a "r" value to the Leader's 18 position... although I'm sure we all know LoC doesn't actually like RDA anyway.. |
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barton |
Even better, if you have the ability to read perl code and some extra time and attention, follow the link at the end of the page and help me fill in some of the details. |
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dcook |
barton: I can't say I've had any of the problems you mention with Outlook :S |
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dcook |
But I'm also on the newest version, I think.. |
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barton |
Oh, actually that's the legacy part of the page ... atll the stuff that I added was in the 'Notice Markup' part of the page, and down. |
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dcook |
Mmm |
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dcook |
Neato |
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barton |
It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft has made their html handling much more robust since that page was written. |
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dcook |
If you don't mind me asking, is the wiki page intended for librarians or developers? |
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barton |
yes. |
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barton |
;-) |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
:p |
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barton |
It's meant to be a resource for the entire Koha community. |
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barton |
I'd like to add a link to the messaging rewrite RFC: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]aging_rewrite_RFC |
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barton |
... unfortunately, that page is fairly out of date as well. |
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dcook |
I was just about to ask if anyone was working on that one :p |
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dcook |
I agree about what you said about messaging being one of the most public parts of Koha though |
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dcook |
It would be good to have all the public parts be the most robust and well documented.. |
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barton |
Sing it, brother! |
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barton |
I would like to see a) the formatting done via template toolkit (I'm not in *love* with template toolkit, but we need something that we don't re-write every time we add a new message type). |
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barton |
b) much more of the letters logic pulled into C4::Letter (or write Koha::Messages ...) |
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dcook |
Hmm, using template toolkit could probably be a bit risky |
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dcook |
Totally agree with b) though |
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dcook |
There's so much logic in individual scripts and it's rather inconsistent at times |
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dcook |
Koha::Messages or something would be rad |
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barton |
c) use DBIC for the data to pull, and have the staff client only show the data avaliable for a given letter. |
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barton |
"rather inconsistent at times" <= understatement of the day. |
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dcook |
hehe |
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tcohen |
@later tell rangi if you want to backport the UTF-8 tests into 3.18.x, I can set jenkins so it runs them |
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rangi |
hmm i dont think i will |
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rangi |
big enough changes that i think ill leave it for master |
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barton |
Like I said, I'm not in love with template toolkit ... it's krufty and ugly, but does have the necessary power to display lists of data in a consistent fashion... plus, we use it for everything else. |
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barton |
what risks do you see, dcook? |
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barton |
XSS? |
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tcohen |
rangi: i'm talking about the tests only |
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tcohen |
bug 13264 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13264 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Full stack encoding tests (UTF-8) |
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tcohen |
new files |
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rangi |
ah hmm might backport them |
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rangi |
ill let you know |
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rangi |
TT is for display logic, not functional logic, the only reason stuff gets crufty is when people start putting functional logic in your templates .. just because you can, doesnt mean you should |
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dcook |
^ |
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* dcook |
hearts TT a bit ;) |
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dcook |
barton: I was thinking a bit about http://www.template-toolkit.or[…]html#section_PERL, although it might be irrelevant if "EVAL_PERL" is disabled. |
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dcook |
It probably isn't set although errors wouldn't be good either |
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dcook |
While I like TT syntax, it might also be a bit intimidating for librarians |
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dcook |
And possibly too powerful |
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dcook |
Of course, I'm always locked in a struggle regarding how much power to give to staff client users... |
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dcook |
abby++ |
