Time Nick Message 23:59 dcook abby++ 23:57 dcook Of course, I'm always locked in a struggle regarding how much power to give to staff client users... 23:56 dcook And possibly too powerful 23:56 dcook While I like TT syntax, it might also be a bit intimidating for librarians 23:56 dcook It probably isn't set although errors wouldn't be good either 23:55 dcook barton: I was thinking a bit about http://www.template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_PERL, although it might be irrelevant if "EVAL_PERL" is disabled. 23:55 * dcook hearts TT a bit ;) 23:55 dcook ^ 23:55 rangi TT is for display logic, not functional logic, the only reason stuff gets crufty is when people start putting functional logic in your templates .. just because you can, doesnt mean you should 23:53 rangi ill let you know 23:53 rangi ah hmm might backport them 23:53 tcohen new files 23:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13264 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Full stack encoding tests (UTF-8) 23:53 tcohen bug 13264 23:53 tcohen rangi: i'm talking about the tests only 23:52 barton XSS? 23:52 barton what risks do you see, dcook? 23:52 barton Like I said, I'm not in love with template toolkit ... it's krufty and ugly, but does have the necessary power to display lists of data in a consistent fashion... plus, we use it for everything else. 23:51 rangi big enough changes that i think ill leave it for master 23:51 rangi hmm i dont think i will 23:50 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 23:50 tcohen @later tell rangi if you want to backport the UTF-8 tests into 3.18.x, I can set jenkins so it runs them 23:50 dcook hehe 23:48 barton "rather inconsistent at times" <= understatement of the day. 23:48 barton c) use DBIC for the data to pull, and have the staff client only show the data avaliable for a given letter. 23:47 dcook Koha::Messages or something would be rad 23:47 dcook There's so much logic in individual scripts and it's rather inconsistent at times 23:47 dcook Totally agree with b) though 23:47 dcook Hmm, using template toolkit could probably be a bit risky 23:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #32 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:46 barton b) much more of the letters logic pulled into C4::Letter (or write Koha::Messages ...) 23:44 barton I would like to see a) the formatting done via template toolkit (I'm not in *love* with template toolkit, but we need something that we don't re-write every time we add a new message type). 23:41 barton Sing it, brother! 23:39 dcook It would be good to have all the public parts be the most robust and well documented.. 23:38 dcook I agree about what you said about messaging being one of the most public parts of Koha though 23:38 dcook I was just about to ask if anyone was working on that one :p 23:38 barton ... unfortunately, that page is fairly out of date as well. 23:38 barton I'd like to add a link to the messaging rewrite RFC: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Messaging_rewrite_RFC 23:37 barton It's meant to be a resource for the entire Koha community. 23:36 dcook :p 23:36 dcook lol 23:36 barton ;-) 23:36 barton yes. 23:36 dcook If you don't mind me asking, is the wiki page intended for librarians or developers? 23:35 barton It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft has made their html handling much more robust since that page was written. 23:35 dcook Neato 23:35 dcook Mmm 23:34 barton Oh, actually that's the legacy part of the page ... atll the stuff that I added was in the 'Notice Markup' part of the page, and down. 23:33 dcook But I'm also on the newest version, I think.. 23:33 dcook barton: I can't say I've had any of the problems you mention with Outlook :S 23:32 barton Even better, if you have the ability to read perl code and some extra time and attention, follow the link at the end of the page and help me fill in some of the details. 23:32 dcook You know... if LoC cared so much about RDA, you think they'd add a "r" value to the Leader's 18 position... although I'm sure we all know LoC doesn't actually like RDA anyway.. 23:30 barton http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Customising_Notices_and_Slips 23:29 barton hey #koha, I've just done a major overhaul on the 'Notices and Slips' page on the wiki. Please take a look. I'm soliciting comments (feel free to leave me a @later if I don't respond). 22:55 anonymous no worries 22:52 wizzyrea sure :) sorry was afk for a moment 22:52 anonymous can you check kohaacademy wizzyrea? 22:47 rangi just wanted a test baker and taylor username to test a bug 22:46 rangi righto 22:44 bag rangi: if it’s something urgent - shot me an email - I can check that on the go 22:44 bag ok I have a meeting I’m running too - catch you later rangi 22:43 bag rangi: 22:41 bag for a sec 22:38 rangi bag: you about? 22:35 wizzyrea later cait :) 22:26 cait night :) 22:08 wizzyrea pft. 22:07 cait i wish :) 22:06 wizzyrea cait: your bug reports are always awesome. :) 22:04 * dcook waves 22:03 eythian hi 21:55 wizzyrea the original though, it could have been clearer. 21:55 wizzyrea yeah, really helpful 21:54 cait wizzyrea: did you see my update on the bug? 21:53 wizzyrea removed? 21:53 wizzyrea sections you'd like added? 21:53 wizzyrea any other website-y things? 21:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Update patron records -page should have a link to patron details 21:41 cait bug 12352 21:38 wizzyrea 12352 illustrates the importance of a good bug report. 21:26 cait :) 21:25 * wizzyrea sics an academy student on the problem 21:21 cait could we make the link at the bottom look linky? (blue?) 21:21 wizzyrea that's legitimate 21:21 cait instead of the linkt to report 21:21 cait I thik i just thought it was a heading 21:21 wizzyrea :) 21:20 cait that link 21:20 wizzyrea that is a link 21:20 cait ah 21:20 wizzyrea Report a security issue in Koha 21:20 wizzyrea look up at the top of that page. 21:20 wizzyrea yeah, that one's on every page 21:20 cait i disagree :) 21:20 cait http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/pic_fc731a.png 21:19 wizzyrea it's a giant blue link. 21:19 cait let#s see if my server has come back so i can show you 21:19 wizzyrea on that page? 21:19 cait wizzyrea: it shows really small for me 21:19 wizzyrea regarding "report a security bug could be bigger" - it's quite huge here: http://koha-community.org/security/ 21:18 wizzyrea oh cait 20:57 cait academy_students++ 20:08 nengard hi 20:07 wizzyrea hi 20:05 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update budgets section with links 20:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #593: SUCCESS in 2 min 42 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/593/ 20:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #593 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:17 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 19:17 bag @later tell ashimema congrats and good luck :) 19:12 wahanui oleonard: I forgot note 19:12 oleonard wahanui: forget note 19:11 wahanui oleonard: I forgot notes 19:11 oleonard wahanui: forget notes 19:11 wahanui oleonard: I forgot meeting 19:11 oleonard wahanui: forget meeting 19:11 wahanui oleonard, I didn't have anything matching all that stuff 19:11 oleonard wahanui: Forget all that stuff. 19:11 wahanui notes is the key :D 19:11 bag notes? 19:11 wahanui it has been said that note is not visible in opac i think? but in staff? 19:11 bag note? 19:11 bag meeting notes? 19:11 wahanui meeting is probably not today... but tomorrow 19:11 bag meeting? 19:10 cait hi bag 19:10 bag hi cait 19:07 cait hi #koha 19:04 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add new section for closing a budget by Denise Hannibal 19:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #592: SUCCESS in 1 min 24 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/592/ 19:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #592 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:34 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update dup budget info 18:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #591: SUCCESS in 1 min 31 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/591/ 18:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #591 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add second way to duplicate budget 18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: split add budget section 18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update budget image 18:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #590: SUCCESS in 4 min 1 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/590/ 18:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #590 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:21 DigitalZen oleonard: I got to go Thanks again 18:17 DigitalZen oleonard: Yes I do 18:16 oleonard DigitalZen: And now you see item information for your imported records? 18:12 DigitalZen I kept looking for the 952 tag in the MARC view on koha. The imports I did in the past was with a perl script that removed my barcodes so I tried doing it without it and I knew the Barcode was in 952p but when I didn't see the 952 tag in the marc view on koha and after searching on google alot i decided to ask for help in IRC. 18:07 oleonard What was the problem DigitalZen? 18:07 DigitalZen ok I think i see what my problem was, thanks for the help sorry I am new to asking for help on IRC :p have a good day 18:03 oleonard 34014000074551 18:03 oleonard Yes 18:02 DigitalZen when you imported it did it have a barcode? 17:59 oleonard DigitalZen: For what it's worth, when I import the record you pasted it imports with an item 17:59 pastebot "DigitalZen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "This one I used a perl script to convert the fields" (26 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/365 17:57 DigitalZen oh ok, I have another MARC file from the same place but I used a perl script to format it would you like that one too 17:55 oleonard I notice it doesn't have $a (home library) or $b (holding library) 17:53 DigitalZen http://paste.koha-community.org/364?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21 17:52 oleonard You'll have to share the link with us DigitalZen 17:49 DigitalZen ok done 17:43 oleonard DigitalZen: Perhaps you could paste the text of an example MARC record at http://paste.koha-community.org/ ? 17:43 DigitalZen I am exporting them from an Athena system then using MARCedit I changed the 852 tag into 952 17:41 oleonard DigitalZen: How are you creating the MARC file? 17:38 DigitalZen I am trying to import a MARC file into Koha but the 952 tag is not being imported, how can i solve this issue? I am running Koha 3.18 on Debian 17:36 mveron Bye #koha 17:33 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, DigitalZen 17:33 DigitalZen awesome 17:33 oleonard You can ask any question you like, and anyone who knows the answer can respond 17:32 DigitalZen hi olenoard, I have a question about koha could you help me? 17:31 oleonard Hi DigitalZen 17:30 DigitalZen hello 16:46 gaetan_B bye 16:07 reiveune bye 15:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12792: C4::Reserves breaks my vim syntax color <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f406a840a09b381dc12a4e9704846b126b0c214> / Bug 13408: Tell librarians they may continue scanning while checkouts table is loading <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=28513edb943c255b191c94e0fbc0fe14368e6985> / Bug 13566 - Change translation for 'Rotating collection' in German web 15:14 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "jquery for oleonard" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/363 15:13 nengard one sec i'll paste 15:13 nengard woo hoo 15:13 oleonard Sure 15:13 nengard got a sec to help me with a jquery headache? :) 15:12 oleonard Yes 15:12 nengard oleonard around? 14:07 ashimema_ will try to finish this phone call soon 14:07 Joubu ashimema: k :) 14:07 ashimema_ on the wrong computer at the minute whilst on the phone 14:06 ashimema_ sorry Joubu.. not seen it yet.. 14:05 Joubu ashimema(', ashimema_?): Did you see my private msg? 13:35 ashimema_ lol 13:35 ashimema_ if you have an infinite amount of money and time to do such a migration.. go for it ;) 13:35 oleonard No. We are not going to re-write Koha in another language. 13:35 tw like ruby on rails, php on laravel and some on.... 13:34 tw some new idea! 13:34 tw some new ides 13:34 tw koha have turn to mvc framework 13:33 ashimema_ but turning it on is still not the most straight forward or documented thing 13:33 ashimema_ plack is closer I think.. 13:32 tw right! 13:32 tw and then, i want to ask plack for koha (it's also in development) 13:30 ashimema_ what she said 13:29 tw thanks, cait 13:29 cait you can find a bug on bugzlla that links to a branch with some/all? the work i think 13:28 cait that's what my impression is 13:28 cait tw: it's still in development 13:28 tw hello , everybody ! I want to know koha & elasticsearch (current state) 13:20 cait maybe worth trying again 13:19 cait mveron: last time i got only one answer and lost :) but more people around now 13:11 mveron cait: Ach so... I will ask librarians here. Maybe we could ask others on German list? 13:09 cait hi tcohen 13:09 cait because people always thing it has to do witht he materialtype shown in the record 13:09 cait Exemplartyp instead of Medientyp 13:08 mveron cait:What would be the new names for Medientyp and Exemplartyp? 13:04 tcohen hi koha 12:58 cait mveron: can we rename other things too? medientyp to exemplartyp? :) 12:56 mveron hi cait :-) 12:55 cait mveron++ 12:55 cait mveron: rotating collections doesn't seem to appearin the help files - so we shoudl be done with your patch :) 12:52 meliss hi magnuse 12:52 magnuse hiya meliss and NateC 12:51 cait hi again oleonard ;) 12:42 magnuse kia ora oleonard 12:40 oleonard Hi again #koha 12:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The correct COLLATE set to all DB tables 12:32 Joubu bug 13577 needs QA :) 11:37 gaetan_B extra question if i got this right : what about checking the book in on the 17th? 11:37 gaetan_B if the book is checked in on the 16th there will be no message and the book will be back on the shelves for normal circulation ? 11:36 gaetan_B if the book is checked in on the 18th, the librarian will get an alert and will be able to confirm the hold and set the book aside for me 11:36 gaetan_B and i place a hold with a date in the future (20th of january for instance) 11:36 gaetan_B does this mean that, if the value in this syspref is 3 11:35 gaetan_B i think i got it but not sure 11:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, CLOSED FIXED, Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time 11:35 gaetan_B i have a question on futureholds and the ConfirmFutureHolds syspref (bug 9761) 11:03 thd magnuse: I had thought that one of the functions had at one time been to publicise Koha when it was less well known. 11:02 * magnuse needs lunch 11:02 magnuse hm, it looks like kaitiaki = guardian, so that might be more apt for jransom and hlt than for a "Communications Manager"? 11:02 thd ashimema: You may have missed the discussion of no yellow or green bits on the security map for Nigeria. 10:59 thd jransom: Were you once the kaitiaki? 10:59 ashimema back 10:59 BobB night folks 10:59 BobB yes I do, nice concept, but don't get me started on governance at this hour, we'll both regret it :) 10:58 thd Good night BobB. 10:58 thd BobB: Do you remember when Koha had a kaitiaki? 10:58 BobB good night all 10:58 BobB anyway, its bed time for me folks 10:58 thd magnuse: yes 10:58 magnuse nah, maybe not 10:57 magnuse kaitiaki? 10:57 BobB heaven knows, the only Maori I know is on the Koha wiki 10:55 thd BobB: What did the Maouri word which I do not remember but thought of as something like Communications Manager do that is different from your conception of communications manger? 10:55 BobB feel free to email me (or the list) with any thoughts thd 10:55 * magnuse waves to BobB 10:54 thd BobB: The issue of ambiguity about what the Communications Manager would do was raised if I remember correctly again at the first meeting last time. 10:53 BobB agreed, yes 10:52 thd BobB: It may be difficult to attract volunteers for a role for which the responsibilities are unclear. 10:52 * BobB waves to magnuse 10:52 * magnuse waves to jransom 10:52 BobB will get it to you by mid-week 10:52 BobB ok jransom, that is enough time for us 10:51 thd BobB: Communications manager needs a better definition or understanding of the intended role. 10:51 jransom I need to have anything by next thursday if we want it on this month's agenda 10:51 BobB best we get these things right, rather than rush them 10:50 BobB yep, all good 10:50 thd BobB: He had raised some criticisms but I could not communicate with him properly while I was away in California. 10:50 jransom scrap that ... 10:50 jransom if we want it to got jis month I neeed 10:50 cait i was not sure who would be around, so i kept the agenda open 10:50 BobB thx 10:49 BobB joubu that is correct, I'm saying we'll add them for next meeting 10:49 jransom I know paul and brendan are eagef to get this cracking aling. 10:49 Joubu s/there/they 10:49 thd BobB: ashimema and I are going to discuss ideas about wiki management. 10:49 BobB by what day do you need it? 10:49 Joubu BobB, jransom: there are not in the agenda: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_14_January_2015 10:48 BobB jransom, bag and I are working on a paper for you this week 10:48 jransom cool. I have an agenda to put tigether next week for trustees otherwise next month. 10:47 BobB I think bag will be sure to list it for next time 10:47 BobB yes jo, also ongoing 10:47 jransom and the funded position / fundraising / donatons. 10:46 BobB I will list them for next meeting 10:46 BobB Discussion on those topics is ongoing 10:46 BobB We did not discuss the matter of the Wiki Curator and Communications manager 10:45 BobB thank you cait 10:45 Joubu cait: yep :) 10:45 cait thx for attending everyone 10:45 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__14th_january_2015.2015-01-14-10.01.log.html 10:45 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__14th_january_2015.2015-01-14-10.01.txt 10:45 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__14th_january_2015.2015-01-14-10.01.html 10:45 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jan 14 10:45:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 10:45 cait #endmeeting 10:45 cait we can still discuss on ml if it causes bigger problems 10:45 thd BobB: Yes, we cannot make it good for everyone but we can make it least bad for many. 10:45 BobB all good 10:45 cait #info Next meeting is scheduled for 11th February, 19 UTC 10:44 cait i think ideal is not achievable sadly 10:44 BobB there is no time that is good for everyone in the world 10:44 cait shoudl we try 19 and see how it works out? 10:43 thd BobB would adjusting the time to 21 UTC work better? 10:43 BobB sorry I meant 19 10:43 Joubu cait: the idea was to alternate, so it's good 10:43 wahanui 5am is probably early for me, with luck i'd have insomnia ;) 10:43 cait 5am? 10:43 BobB 18 UTC is ok 10:43 cait not for joubu 10:43 cait ah no 10:43 cait hm moving it to 20utc better? 10:43 BobB but good in nz 10:43 BobB ouch will be 6am here 10:42 Joubu +0 # not a good time, too late for me 10:42 oleonard 19UTC works fairly well for me 10:42 thd +1 10:42 cait don't leave me alone now people - please vote :) 10:42 thd oleonard: There are worst times than this hour for you :) 10:41 Joubu cait: not 10 UTC for oleonard :) 10:41 cait 11th february? 10:41 cait 19UTC oleonard? 10:41 oleonard +1 to not this time 10:41 thd Yes, I think we should take some measures to avoid worst times which have had almost no attendance. 10:41 cait i am bad with timezones, so hope my thinking is not wrong :) 10:40 cait other suggestions? 10:40 cait vetos? +1? :) 10:40 BobB worth a try 10:40 cait and it would be 8horus from now, so shoudl get some of the people missing today 10:40 cait i feel like we used to have good attendance at 19 UTC in the past, but might be wrong 10:39 cait i'd like to propose february 11th, 19 UTC 10:39 thd If relatively few people would come in any case and those people would have sufficient funding then the issue may be easier to decide. 10:39 cait #topic Set date and time for the next meeting 10:38 cait moving on? 10:38 cait ok 10:38 jransom if it was in ghana or kenya or south african, a university no problem, but nigeria has known security issues that have to be taken into consideration. is a different 10:38 paul_p OK, will report all that to organizers. Thanks for questions/advices/opinions 10:37 thd Certainly, they ought to try to poll people who may be likely to come if they do not know how to decide otherwise. 10:37 magnuse (sorry, was busy with other things) 10:36 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech 10:36 paul_p Joubu don't know. 10:36 Joubu Africans from other countries I meant 10:36 Joubu What about Africans? Are they ready to come? 10:36 cait jransom++ 10:36 jransom I guess the organisers will have to the best judgement calls they can, put together the package and offer up to the community. 10:35 paul_p cait = imagine you've the budget, the time and the agreement from you boss. It's just to poll ;-) 10:34 cait paul_p: I think it's unlikely I will go this year - not giving a vote 10:34 jransom if tomorrow I would go to diplomatic area but not university 10:34 thd paul_p: You should ask what might be done to mitigate the security concern at a local university. 10:33 paul_p maybe I should ask you : let's suppose it's tomorrow. would you go if it were in the diplomatic area ? would you go if it were in the university ? 10:32 paul_p Joubu right... 10:32 Joubu or :-/ 10:32 Joubu no green or yellow in nigeria :) 10:32 paul_p thd mostly green, some parts yellow 10:32 jransom I fear it will an either /or situation: affordable and high local participation vs exp and moderate number of foreigners 10:32 paul_p thd see argentina for example : http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs/conseils-par-pays/argentine-12200/ 10:32 thd paul_p: Where is it green or yellow? 10:31 cait or minutes, it's all going into the logs of course 10:31 cait something we should add to the logs? 10:31 paul_p thd click on "securité" tab 10:31 jransom I agree. 10:30 BobB There are Work Health and Safety issues for employers, just sayin' 10:30 paul_p probably wise BobB ... 10:30 BobB I would urge an abundance of caution 10:30 paul_p thd http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs/conseils-par-pays/nigeria-12319/ 10:30 BobB the problem is that you know the security situation now: you don't know what it will be in Oct 10:30 thd paul_p: Where is the colour coded map? 10:29 paul_p OK, I'll feedback that to organizers. 10:29 paul_p here it's "orange", which is better than "red" (northern part or nigeria), but worst than green or yellow... 10:29 thd I would like to know more about the specific security concern at a nearby university as distinct from known problematic places in Nigeria. 10:28 paul_p cait organizers say it's safe. but of course they're black & nigerian... 10:28 ashimema same here jransom 10:28 cait jransom: similar here 10:28 paul_p 150USD/day is fine for me, that's what costed the KohaCon in Nevada or Argentina, roughly. 10:28 cait i thnk it's hard to tell from here - the organizers will know best about the local situation 10:28 jransom nigeria was on the 'no travel' list ladt time I looked on nz foreign affairs page so insurance is going to be imposdible. the secure place would be my preference but price is so high. 10:27 paul_p yep, that's also my 1st reaction : local or non nigerian but african participation. 10:27 paul_p anyone an opinion that I could feedback to the team ? 10:27 cait paul_p: not sure - it's quite a bit of money, bit worried about the local participation 10:26 thd cait: Yes, I know the general reports. 10:26 paul_p cait = yep, 150USD for bedroom, lunch, dinner,... 10:26 cait i see 10:26 paul_p + 1800USD/day for the conference room, that will have to be sponsored by someone 10:26 paul_p cait = yep, 150USD for room, lunch, dinner,... 10:26 cait thd: if you read up a bit about nigeria there are some warnings 10:25 paul_p or the university, where security would be more "standard" (the ibadan area being not in the unsafe part of nigeria) 10:25 cait paul_p: for the participant? 10:25 paul_p what is you opinion about the location : a very safe one, in diplomatic area, with all safety, but cost 150USD/day all included 10:25 thd paul_p: What is indicated that fear for security would be warranted at a university location? 10:25 cait anything else? 10:24 cait #info topic should be 15 ... not 14. 10:24 cait don't tell me doesn't happen to all of you currently :) 10:24 paul_p hehe... 10:24 cait yes... it should be 10:24 thd cait: Should that not be KohaCon15? 10:24 cait #info things are moving, location still to be decided 10:23 paul_p so, still to be decided, but things are moving ;-) 10:23 paul_p chris & I have some emails with ppl from Ibadan. The organisation is moving on. The proposed location cost quite a lot of money (international & diplomatic location). So we're wondering whether that's the best option. Other locations (like in a university) would be much cheaper, but ppl could fear about security. 10:23 cait now even 10:23 cait paul_p: nwo :) 10:23 cait #topic KohaCon14 (cont.) 10:23 cait :) 10:23 thd +1 10:22 BobB ok, cool 10:22 ashimema +1 10:22 mveron +1 10:22 cait +1 10:22 cait i am :) 10:21 BobB Is everyone here ok with the idea / text? 10:21 cait heh 10:21 cait ah 10:21 cait #action BobB will send an email about the Roadmap wiki page to the mailing list 10:21 BobB #action BobB to email the list to ask for contributions to the Road Map 10:20 cait BobB: it would be nice if you could 10:20 ashimema will get collegues to keep going through the list 10:20 ashimema added 5 libraries to HEA for you paul_p ;) 10:20 BobB yep, ok, will i do that? 10:19 cait asking people to add? 10:19 cait BobB: shoudl we put the wiki page on the mailing list? 10:19 paul_p reading it... 10:19 paul_p (as I just receive an email about the kohacon15 NOW !) 10:19 BobB ah, sorry , what cait said 10:19 paul_p fine ! 10:18 cait let's talk about the raodmap first and come back to the con? 10:18 BobB go ahead paul_p 10:18 paul_p (was AFK due to another call...) 10:18 paul_p sorry, about the KohaCon, i've something to say ! 10:18 cait BobB++ 10:18 cait i like the text - read it before the meeting 10:17 BobB and if it is ok, folks can start to populate it 10:17 BobB So that is the proposal I guesss: needs feedback ... 10:17 BobB #link: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_for_Koha 10:17 cait BobB: I saw you did some work on it? 10:16 cait we got the roadmap on the agenda 10:16 cait #topic Actions from the last meeting 10:16 cait I will move on? 10:16 cait ok, nothing for kohacon i think? 10:15 cait Joubu: cool 10:15 Joubu cait: aleisha is working on Hea 10:15 fridolin squashed patches 10:15 fridolin ok, whe have a 3.14 version indeed 10:15 cait I'd also like to see a statement on the hea page about what is /can be stored 10:14 cait #action mtj to backport HEA into 3.16 10:14 Joubu will have a look, yes 10:14 cait #action Joubu or fridolin to submit HEA patches for 3.16 10:14 mtj yes please :0) 10:14 BobB #action mtj to backport HEA to 3.16 10:14 cait mtj: want an #action? :) 10:14 paul_p let's submit the patch then ;-) ( Joubu / fridolin = can you take care of that pls ) 10:13 mtj awesome ^ 10:13 paul_p (as most of our customers are using it) 10:13 paul_p and we've already done it for 3.14 10:13 mtj paul_p: i'd be keen to backport HEA to 3.16 10:13 paul_p cait yes, of course. And that's why that would be good to have it backported ! 10:13 cait #topic KohaCon15 10:13 cait will take us some more time too 10:12 BobB cait, joubu ++ 10:12 cait paul_p: also a thing to keep in mind - many people might not have updated to 3.18 yet 10:12 cait #action Joubu will send info about HEA to the mailing list and the newsletter 10:12 cait ready to move on to the next topic? 10:12 Joubu paul_p: k 10:11 paul_p Joubu I let you drop an email about that, OK ? 10:11 paul_p cait + Joubu ++ ! 10:11 cait today was the call 10:11 Joubu paul_p: Maybe a mail on the koha ml + the news letter could be useful 10:11 mtj #info i'll be pushing some commits to the 3.16 branch over the next few days 10:11 cait maybe we could put it in the newsletter? 10:11 paul_p ashimema ;-) 10:11 ashimema I've been meaning to activate our 3.18's 10:11 ashimema ooh.. thanks for the reminder paul.. 10:11 mveron #info Marc Véron, marc veron ag / Koha Support Schweiz 10:11 cait i know we don't transmit personal information, but it shoudl still be opt-in 10:10 cait we shoud not have a koha that calls out to another website by default 10:10 cait #info please test bug 13577 to fix a problem with the installer 10:10 paul_p cait what do you mean by "highly critical" ? 10:10 Joubu blocker, NSO 10:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The correct COLLATE set to all DB tables 10:10 Joubu cait: bug 13577 fixes the installer problem 10:09 cait paul_p: i think activating by default is highly critical 10:09 fridolin since there is 3.16;x and 3.18.x 10:09 paul_p I'd like to see HEA backported to previous versions. And maybe activated by default (because, for now, there's "no-one" that has activated it : only 53, most of them -if not all- come from BibLibre) 10:09 cait do you have the bug number for testing? 10:09 fridolin i m adding only a few patches on 3.14.x to keep a stable version 10:09 cait ah ok 10:08 Joubu cait: installer is broken, patch sent this morning 10:08 * mtj reads the scrollback 10:08 cait updates on the releases? :) 10:08 * fridolin i'm here 10:08 BobB ah sorry mtj 10:08 mtj ..sorry, didnt realise a meeting was on 10:08 cait #info UTF-8 patches got pushed to master yesterday - keep an eye out for any encoding problems 10:07 BobB #info I know Mason is on track to release 3.16.7 on 22 Jan 10:07 mtj hi all 10:07 BobB mtj about? 10:07 cait but it looks like all is quite well on track I think 10:07 cait I think we are a bit short on RM and RMaints this meeting 10:06 cait #topic Updates on Releases 10:06 paul_p I don't think so. 10:06 cait ok, something else? 10:06 cait hotel is booked for me,still waiting for the train tickets - were not available last time i tried :) 10:06 paul_p cait should come soon 10:06 ashimema will register properly once I know exact details of our lot this end 10:06 cait paul_p: google doc? ;) 10:05 paul_p ashimema ++++ ! 10:05 BobB sadly not us 10:05 paul_p there are already many registrations, and that will be a great time :D 10:05 ashimema I'm just booking hotels and flights paul_p.. just bending colinc's arm, alex will be there for the whole period and I hope to join for at least half (with baby on the way that's a bit up in the air ;) ) 10:05 cait #info The hackfest in Marseille is from Marc 2nd - 6th and will take place in 2 locations (20 mins apart) 10:05 paul_p bag told me that he expect to have ElasticSearch search working & ready to be tested for the hackfest 10:05 paul_p as already announced on koha-devel : Hackfest in Marseille will take place in March, 2nd-6th. It will take place in 2 locations (20mn distant), so we should have a lot of space 10:04 cait but i will take anything 10:04 cait that there is one .) 10:04 cait heh 10:04 BobB #info Asian Cup: Australia 4 Oman 0 10:04 paul_p cait what kind of announcement would you like ? ;-) 10:03 cait paul_p: hackfest maybe? :) 10:03 cait #topic Announcements 10:03 cait ok, moving on :) 10:03 BobB hi paul_p 10:02 paul_p (hello all, and good morning, evening, afternoon, or night night) 10:02 thd #info: Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 10:02 ashimema cheers thd.. I'll call you :) 10:02 paul_p #info Paul Poulain, BibLibre 10:02 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 10:02 jransom #info joann ransom, horowhenua, nz. 10:02 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart, BibLibre 10:02 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 10:01 cait #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_14_January_2015 10:01 thd ashimema: I am at +1 212-674-3783 10:01 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx Australia 10:01 cait please introduce yourself with #info 10:01 BobB ashimena there is only one meeting today: a decision of the last meeting' 10:01 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 10:01 cait #topic Introductions 10:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__14th_january_2015' 10:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 10:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Jan 14 10:01:23 2015 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 10:01 cait #startmeeting General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015 10:01 thd ashimema: What number should I call at 7 am EST? 10:01 ashimema especially as neither of us has too much time at the minute to start implementing anything we discuss/decide upon.. delaying a decision won't delay the action.. yet 10:01 cait ok, i wil start it and we see what happens? 10:00 ashimema I'm fine with that.. makes reasonable sense.. 10:00 BobB hi all 10:00 thd ashimema: I suggest we defer decisions about wiki management until the next general meeting while we discuss options. 09:59 ashimema i'm getting called away any minute too cait :( 09:59 ashimema i was just working that out ;) 09:59 ashimema I should be free for a chat between 7am and 11am your time today if that helps 09:59 cait who is around for the meeting and would maybe be willing to take over chair/chair? 09:59 cait ok, it's about meeting time now but i might get called awy... 09:59 thd ashimema: When would be a good time to talk on telephone? 09:58 wahanui okay, thd. 09:58 thd ashimema: I think you are also a little confused about the function of some installed extensions. 09:58 ashimema cool.. 09:58 thd I have the time to implement any good ideas or at least I expect to start to have proper time from mid-February. 09:57 ashimema early riser then ;) 09:57 thd Nothing was nasty and you have some good ideas 09:56 ashimema oh.. 5am.. i was thinking it was 5pm.. 09:56 ashimema they were meant to be constructive btw.. hope they're werent too nasty sounding.. 09:56 thd It is 5 am in NYC. 09:56 thd ashimema: I saw your criticisms while I was in California but I did not have any opportunity until now to try to communicate with you properly. 09:56 ashimema hmm.. your lateish afternoon over there right now right.. 09:55 ashimema I can skype out to you to keep the costs down.. as I said I'm a little tied this morning (UK time) 09:55 thd ashimema: I am based in New York City but would be happy to call you wherever. 09:54 ashimema sure thd.. erm.. remind me. where are you based? 09:54 jransom cheers 09:54 ashimema Hi jo.. meeting hasn't quite started yet.. but when it does stick an #info infront of that ;) 09:54 thd ashimema Is there some time we could talk on telephone? 09:53 jransom hi everyone: jo ransom, horowhenua (nz) 09:53 thd ashimema: I suggest that we try to reach a consensus or at least a common understanding about the wiki. 09:53 ashimema i'll be about for another 20 mins or so.. then I have another call so will be trying to dip in and out of the two meetings :( 09:52 wahanui well, ashimema is on qa now .) 09:52 thd Yes ashimema 09:51 ashimema i was in a call and a colleague picked up. 09:51 ashimema did you just call? 09:51 ashimema hi thd 09:34 thd ashimema: Could we discuss your ideas for the wiki? 09:27 cait ashimema++ thx! 09:26 magnuse ashimema++ 09:26 ashimema sent a reminder to the list.. bit late but hopefulyl some may see it 09:25 ashimema done 09:20 cait aah it's at "11" - 40 minutes 09:18 cait hm is that now or later? 09:16 Joubu * AGREED: The next meeting will be held on 14 January 2015 at 10 UTC 09:16 ashimema ooh.. meeting 09:13 cait my meeting got cancelled, will be back in 5 mins if we want to have one 09:13 cait hm i think there should be an IRC meeting about now 09:04 Joubu better :) 09:04 magnuse hehe 09:04 huginn Joubu: Highest karma: "cait" (185), "gmcharlt" (153), and "tcohen" (138). Lowest karma: "ie" (-11), "^" (-10), and "-" (-10). You (Joubu) are ranked 6 out of 342. 09:04 Joubu @karma 09:04 Joubu ie-- 09:04 Joubu whaou 09:03 huginn Joubu: Highest karma: "cait" (185), "gmcharlt" (153), and "tcohen" (138). Lowest karma: "^" (-10), "-" (-10), and "ie" (-10). You (Joubu) are ranked 6 out of 342. 09:03 Joubu @karma 09:00 magnuse who can reset that for the new year? 09:00 huginn magnuse: Highest karma: "cait" (185), "gmcharlt" (153), and "tcohen" (138). Lowest karma: "^" (-10), "-" (-10), and "ie" (-10). You (magnuse) are ranked 11 out of 342. 09:00 magnuse @karma 09:00 magnuse Joubu++ 08:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 08:41 Joubu info: bug 11944 breaks the installer, follow-up coming soon 08:29 wahanui hi, gaetan_B 08:29 gaetan_B hello