IRC log for #koha, 2014-12-29

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00:00 dcook hehe
00:01 dcook Hmm, I wish I could find that long rant I wrote about z39.50 and ccl on bugzilla..
00:01 * dcook should've turned it into a wiki page way earlier..
00:02 dcook Oh.. I think I remember now
00:02 dcook bug 10542
00:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10542 critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries'
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00:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #278: NOW UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/278/
00:39 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 13285 Do the right thing if opacthemes is not set
00:39 jenkins_koha * Bug 9958: Improve RoutingSerials sys pref description
00:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13458: Display the correct patron categories
00:39 jenkins_koha * Lyon3 Team: Bug 12895 repair dropbox mode
00:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13285 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , updatedatabase throws an error if opacthemes is not set
00:39 jenkins_koha * Martin Renvoize: Bug 13447: Fixed HTML Email Reports
00:39 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13341 - Hard-coded "Preview" text in OPAC openlibrary.js
00:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9958 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , RoutingSerials description misleading
00:39 jenkins_koha * Benjamin Rokseth: Bug 13252 - SIP2 server should accept IPv6 connections
00:39 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 13252 Allow for IPv6 formatted addresses in Port definition
00:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13458 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add new patron shows default / hardcoded patron categories after search
00:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12895 major, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Dropbox mode doesn't work correctly
00:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13447 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , html email fails
00:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13341 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hard-coded "Preview" text in OPAC openlibrary.js
00:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, Pushed to Master , SIP2 server should accept IPv6 connections
01:02 mtj hi all
01:02 mtj hey rangi, thanks for taking a look at my jenkins problem
01:03 mtj i did some poking before and reached a similar conclusion myself
01:04 rangi i suspect the updatedatabase failed at some point previously
01:05 rangi you might want to ask tcohen if he can take a look
01:06 mtj ok, will do
01:06 rangi maybe start with a new db
01:06 rangi a good feature to add to koha
01:07 rangi log the updatedatabase output
01:07 mtj yeah, it seems like a db_dependant glitch
01:07 rangi so that when stuff fails or pass
01:07 rangi its logged somewhere
01:07 mtj yes, agreed :)
01:09 mtj fwiw, the failing commit just updates some PO files - so it should not cause a problem
01:09 mtj it seems like the build failed from a glitchy db instead
01:09 rangi yeah its some point previous that the contact
01:09 rangi column wasnt added
01:10 mtj (commit worked ok on the deb7 vm)
01:10 mtj ah, ok :)
01:12 mtj thanks for the clarification
01:14 * eythian takes it back to the 70's with Quadrophenia
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03:45 eythian chris_n: you about?
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05:04 eythian 3.18.02 packages uploading
05:05 eythian and done
05:05 eythian the internet is fast today given most people are away
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06:21 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:22 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -10.0°C (7:00 AM CET on December 29, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037 hPa (Rising).
06:22 cait eek
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07:41 reiveune hello
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08:03 alex_a bonjour
08:03 wahanui hello, alex_a
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08:10 gaetan_B hello
08:11 fridolin hie all
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08:55 cait morning #koha
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09:25 cait super quiet day i guess?
09:32 ashimema morning all
09:32 ashimema hi cait
09:34 cait hi ashimema
09:34 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:34 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -7.6°C (10:30 AM CET on December 29, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
09:35 liw @wunder Espoo
09:35 huginn liw: The current temperature in Viherlaakso, Espoo, Finland is -16.1°C (11:34 AM EET on December 29, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
09:35 liw luckily I can stay in, nursing a cold
09:36 cait not lucky with the cold :(
09:36 cait hope you feel better soon
09:36 cait it just started snowing again here... and the office is cold from the holidays
09:37 ashimema my daughter would be very jealous.. she's desperate for some snow
09:38 cait it's not so nice walking to work on icy roads :)
09:38 ashimema we have the ice..
09:38 ashimema we just don't have the nice snow to go with it.
09:42 cait ah ok, i will try to push some over to you then
10:00 JesseDhammu1 hello .. i have exported the marc records from one server, and have imported the bib records to another server... but now the record numbers in both databases are diffrent ..
10:00 JesseDhammu1 is there any way to have the same record numbers in both of them ...
10:01 JesseDhammu1 BTW, i am not in position to take full SQL database backup..
10:01 JesseDhammu1 please help
10:02 cait JesseDhammu1: I think there is no easy way to do that - the numbers are assigned by the database automatically
10:02 JesseDhammu1 ya thats what the problem is ..
10:03 JesseDhammu1 see i can explain you the problem if yo have a little time .. you will have the idea what's going on ..!!
10:05 JesseDhammu1 may i ..??
10:08 sophie_m JesseDhammu1: why do you need that biblionumber are the same in both databases ?
10:09 sophie_m It is an internal identfier
10:24 * ashimema dancing round the room to acoustic status quo
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11:19 JesseDhammu1 no problem record number issue is fine ..
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11:20 JesseDhammu1 now there is another problem .. i restored the backup of biblographic records only .. using marc export import.. but circulation details are not on my new server now ..
11:20 JesseDhammu1 so now i dont know which books are checked out and to whoom ...
11:20 JesseDhammu1 i have backup of my old database ..
11:21 JesseDhammu1 is there any way to restore it to the new koha installation .. ..??
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11:26 ashimema just restore the db dump..
11:27 ashimema then, if it's a different version, koha will run you through the updatedatabase script
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11:32 JesseDhammu ashimema: thats what the problem is
11:32 JesseDhammu i can not restore the sql backup ...
11:32 JesseDhammu however i have the sql tables of koha database..
11:32 ashimema ow did you take the backup?
11:32 JesseDhammu yes i did .. but i am afraid that backup is corrupt ..
11:33 ashimema oh, I see..
11:33 JesseDhammu let me explain you the proble ..
11:33 JesseDhammu problem ..
11:33 JesseDhammu i was having koha 3.12 on Xubuntu 10.04
11:34 JesseDhammu few days back system notified me of some updates. i did that .. after installing the updates.. the web browser took me to the koha web installer
11:34 JesseDhammu where it was showing option to update and upgrade the koha software....
11:34 ashimema I follow so far..
11:35 JesseDhammu and when i did that .. Step 3: Koha database updation threw bunch of errors..
11:35 JesseDhammu i have updated the same on
11:37 JesseDhammu so thats what the story is .. after this happening .. i installed koha on a new system for testing .. and restored the biblographic records using marc import export facility ..
11:38 JesseDhammu and now i have the bibliographic records only, and the data of patrons..
11:38 ashimema so.. did your koha get stuck in a loop where you kept getting the updatedatebase request in the staff client?
11:38 JesseDhammu yes yes..
11:38 ashimema I see..
11:38 JesseDhammu its not going further from step 3
11:38 ashimema let me take a quick look at the relevant line in updatedatabase..
11:38 ashimema that shouldn't happen
11:39 JesseDhammu and it all happened because of that stupid updation thing ..
11:39 JesseDhammu plz hlp
11:40 ashimema I assume you still have the broken server up and running?
11:40 ashimema could you run an, 'apt-cache policy koha-common' for me?
11:40 ashimema want to see what koha version it was attempting to upgrade to
11:41 JesseDhammu sure
11:41 JesseDhammu one sec
11:42 JesseDhammu its showing ...
11:42 ashimema and.. do you not have a backup from before the upgrade attempted to take place?
11:43 JesseDhammu installed: 3.18.01
11:43 JesseDhammu Candidate: 3.18.01
11:43 JesseDhammu Version table :
11:43 JesseDhammu ***
11:43 JesseDhammu 500 http://debian.koha-community.o[…]oha/sequeeze/main i386 Packages
11:43 JesseDhammu 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
11:44 ashimema k.. thanks
11:44 JesseDhammu unfortunately No, but i did have an exported marc file for biblographic records only
11:45 ashimema So... we'de probably be better off repariing your database really..
11:45 JesseDhammu and somehow i managed to extract patrons details from old server and have imported that to the new server...
11:45 JesseDhammu thats all ..
11:45 JesseDhammu Yes Yes
11:46 ashimema erm..
11:46 ashimema that' paste you sent me
11:46 ashimema is that two runs of the upgrade merged together?
11:46 JesseDhammu ya....
11:47 ashimema as the 'update errors :' bit doesn't correspond with the stuff before it
11:47 JesseDhammu i dont know ,,, but earlier i had koha 3.12 on it .. and when i upgraded it was showing new version koha 3.18 directly .
11:48 JesseDhammu right now, i am assuming that my sql database itself is corrupted ..
11:49 ashimema to me it looks like mysql has run out of resources.. i.e. it's filled up your ram.
11:49 JesseDhammu so im affraid that if i export the sql file from the old server and restore that sql database to new one .. that would damage my new server as well
11:49 ashimema I'de proably restart mysql, and see if the updatedatebase goes to completion in another run.
11:49 JesseDhammu so what should i do .. ..?
11:49 JesseDhammu i did it many times.. i restarted the server and then ran it .. but no luck
11:50 ashimema it's pretty rare these days for db's to actually become corrupted.
11:50 ashimema hmm.. ok
11:52 JesseDhammu now i restarted the koha service again and ran the update script ..
11:52 JesseDhammu its again shwoing me the same error
11:53 ashimema well a pretty large number of those errors are because the upgrade has already taken place.. so it cant' run the commands again.
11:53 ashimema in other words allot of them can be ignored.
11:54 ashimema can you look at the database and tell me what version koha 'thinks' it is?
11:54 ashimema i.e look at the sysprefs table and the version preference.
11:56 ashimema cait.. you about still
11:56 ashimema happen to remember which bug it was that caused updatedatabase issues.. the one that was backported and really should not have been.?
11:56 JesseDhammu ok
11:56 JesseDhammu wait
11:58 cait ashimema: authorised values
11:58 cait sorry, was reading back
11:58 cait just got back from lunch
11:58 JesseDhammu on that table under version it is showing 3.1200000
11:58 cait hmm
11:59 cait shoudln't the packages automatically backup eventually?
11:59 JesseDhammu dont know
11:59 cait JesseDhammu: actually, that might be a very good sign
11:59 cait if a databae update had happened, the version number would have gone up
11:59 cait what do you think ashimema?
11:59 ashimema one tic.. in call
12:00 cait JesseDhammu: i have never seen this storage engine error before
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12:01 cait[…]rage-engine-error
12:01 cait could be a full disk
12:02 ashimema indeed.. it could well be a full disk..
12:02 ashimema I don't think the db is totally screwed..
12:02 ashimema just in a half upgraded state
12:03 JesseDhammu1 ya
12:03 ashimema df -h on the old server JesseDhummu1
12:04 ashimema 'df -h'
12:04 JesseDhammu1 i dont understand
12:09 ashimema run a 'df -h' on the command line..
12:09 ashimema that'll tell you how full your disks are
12:09 JesseDhammu1 with sudo ...??
12:10 JesseDhammu1 its showing :/dev/sda1 is 15%
12:10 ashimema perhaps.. that depends on your setup really..
12:10 ashimema if it doesn't work without, then add sudo..
12:10 ashimema in this case it's a purely read only command.. so won't harm anything
12:10 ashimema df = 'disk full'
12:11 ashimema -h = 'human readable output'
12:11 JesseDhammu1 ya it ran ... and showing my root is 15% used only
12:11 JesseDhammu1 size 146G and used 21G, and 118G available ...
12:21 JesseDhammu1 any clue ..??
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12:27 ashimema hmm..
12:27 ashimema not a disk space issue then..
12:27 ashimema assuming your mysql storage is on root ;)
12:28 ashimema at this point, I would perhaps grab a dump of the current db and attempt the import and upgrade of it on your new server..
12:29 ashimema perhaps as a second db on the server.. if your wanting to keep your current work on there intact.
12:29 ashimema sorry.. I'm in and out allot today.. hence the slow replies
12:31 cait i think ashimema is good
12:31 cait don't give up on the database yet - try an update on a new server
12:32 JesseDhammu1 ok
12:32 JesseDhammu1 no problem
12:33 JesseDhammu1 see im sorry, i appreciate your concern and your help.. i am keeping my other staff waiting,
12:33 JesseDhammu1 Im in India and its 6:10 PM here..
12:33 JesseDhammu1 so we need to leave from office...
12:33 JesseDhammu1 if its ok, can i catch you tomorrow ..??
12:34 cait not a lot of people here this week because of hte holidays, but normalyl someone is around
12:36 JesseDhammu1 ok ..
12:36 JesseDhammu1 will you great guys be around tomorrow ..??
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15:11 cait Joubu++ - sorry for missing the dependency :)
15:12 Joubu cait: there are too many dependencies...
15:13 cait it will get better soon it hink
15:13 cait i have to do some math before i can go back to qa this week :(
15:14 cait but will try to take another look as soon as i can
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16:56 gaetan_B bye
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17:21 edveal Quick question does anyone know if Koha auto generates a random password for newly added patrons, I know it generates a username?
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18:34 rangi morning
18:35 rangi edveal: i dont think so
18:36 edveal thanks rangi I thought if it sends an email to a patron it provided a pwd.
18:38 rangi ahh it might, i refuse to believe we have that feature tho, cos i hate the idea of sending passwords in plaintext, at least ones that dont expire within a day
18:39 rangi so i just pretend no one would ever care so little about patron privacy and security to ever turn that on
18:39 rangi helps me sleep at night :)
18:39 edveal :)
18:39 edveal I hear that, you know it might be online patron registration that sends them a pwd. If that is the case it woudl expire based on the way the lib sets it up.
18:40 rangi ahh yeah that does the right thing, sends a token and they have to set a password
18:40 edveal And then sleep might come easier.
18:40 rangi its the one on the staff side that does the wrong thing
18:41 edveal thanks again
18:41 rangi no worries hope you had a good xmas
18:47 edveal I did and merry Xmas to you as well. (There are 12 days of xmas after all.)
18:48 rangi :)
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19:03 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:03 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x_U12 build #55: FIXED in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.14.x_U12/55/
19:03 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 13296 - error when using z3950 with UNIMARC authorities
19:03 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13296: (follow-up) permit grep on AUTHUNIMARC
19:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13296 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , error when using z3950 with UNIMARC authorities
19:03 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12596 - Unit Test
19:03 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12596 - Backdating returns with SpecifiyReturnDate causes fines for items not overdue!
19:03 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12596: (followup) add reference to bug # and license note
19:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12596 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Backdating returns with SpecifiyReturnDate causes fines for items not overdue!
19:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #20 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:46 JesseM Hello #koha
19:46 JesseM Wondering if anyone has come across this error?
19:46 JesseM Can't locate object method "new" via package "Koha::database" (perhaps you forgot to load "Koha::database"?) at /usr/share/koha/lib/c4/ line 1256
19:47 JesseM Get this error when scanning a barcode during selfcheck
19:47 cait hm not seen it yet, where does it appar?
19:47 cait ah
19:47 JesseM yeah very strange
19:48 rangi JesseM: in master?
19:50 JesseM 3.14.4 i think let me check
19:58 JesseM Trying to figure out what patch caused the error
20:00 rangi yeah i cant see that line in 3.14.4 or latest 3.14.x
20:01 JesseM i think bug 13315 caused it but im not sure
20:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13315 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add feedback for last item checked out to
20:01 JesseM I am probably wrong
20:01 rangi what does line 1256 of /usr/share/koha/lib/c4/ say?
20:02 rangi those probably should be capitals too
20:02 rangi what does line 1256 of /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ say?
20:04 rangi on master, and 3.18.x  it is  $sth->execute(C4::Context->userenv-​>{'branch'},$item->{'itemnumber'});
20:06 JesseM $issue = Koha::Database->new()->schema(​)->resultset('Issue')->create(
20:07 cait hm bug 13315 is not in master or 3.14
20:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13315 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add feedback for last item checked out to
20:08 rangi yeah so i think you have some unreleased version running
20:08 rangi that line doesnt exist in 3.14.x either
20:08 JesseM I meant 3.16.04 sorry
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20:10 rangi[…]a6cf8edeaf3#l1226
20:10 rangi[…]a6cf8edeaf3#l1256 even
20:10 rangi thats 3.16.04 in git
20:10 rangi i dunno where that Koha::Database bit has come from
20:11 JesseM me neither thanks for the info
20:11 rangi it looks like maybe a local patch has been applied
20:12 JesseM yeah 13315
20:13 rangi yeah need to roll that back out i think, cos that wont work in 3.16.x
20:14 rangi or it might with a use Koha::Database line
20:14 rangi but it hasnt been tested
20:15 JesseM right. I will let Larry know thanks
20:16 rangi no worries
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21:22 eythian hi
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21:26 aline Bonjour! Hello?
21:26 rangi hi aline
21:26 aline Hi rangi
21:27 aline I am trying to dowload the package of koha on an other distrib than debian or ubuntu
21:27 aline I m using mint
21:28 rangi it should work on mint, in theory, i haven't tried it
21:28 ibeardslee Mint is pretty much Ubuntu
21:28 aline well yes indeed
21:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #21 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #19 4 days 2 hr ago)
21:32 aline ok I m right now adding the koha repository
21:39 aline ok I think it's just because I didn't copy the source list at the right place....
21:40 aline it doesn't appear in the source list in etc/apt
21:42 eythian it shouldn't, it should appear as a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
21:42 aline yes
21:43 aline that's what i wanted to say actually I didn't finish the path, sorry
21:44 aline so I have now the getdeb list
21:44 aline in source.list.d
21:44 eythian getdeb list?
21:44 eythian what instructions are you following?
21:45 wizzyrea it works fine on mint, I've done it :)
21:45 wizzyrea in case anyone needed reassurance.
21:48 aline cool :)
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21:48 aline[…]munity_Repository
21:49 aline I don t know the actual debian version , is it still squeeze?
21:49 eythian yeah, say squeeze
21:49 eythian I really really need to make those names more generic
21:49 eythian maybe that'll be a job for today.
21:49 aline ach no it's wheeze
21:50 eythian no, say squeeze
21:50 aline wheezy
21:50 eythian no
21:50 eythian squeeze
21:50 aline no ok ok
21:50 eythian if you say other things, it won't work
21:50 aline so I can just follow the same lines as explained on the wiki
21:50 eythian yep
21:50 aline thx
21:54 aline i upgrade
21:55 aline and I upgrade ;)
22:15 aline here is the problem
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22:33 rangi @later tell tcohen[…]ment.cgi?id=33984 breaks a lot of tests
22:33 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
22:37 cait rangi: :(
22:39 rangi its ok, its not released anywhere
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