IRC log for #koha, 2014-11-26

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00:00 tcohen removing most DB interaction inside searchResults (doable) gives half the time
00:01 dcook who, wha?
00:01 * dcook was doing stuff and just saw green
00:02 tcohen we are rewriting it dcook, fasten your seatbelt
00:02 tcohen :-P
00:02 dcook what DB interaction is there? :S
00:02 dcook Huzzah!
00:02 dcook tcohen++
00:02 * dcook really needs clones with a hive mind
00:02 dcook Wait, I already have clones...
00:03 dcook tcohen:
00:03 dcook Sadly, he and I don't share a hive brain... and he makes movies not code...
00:03 tcohen hey, that's you
00:03 dcook I know, right?
00:03 dcook I saw that as a sponsored ad on Facebook one day
00:03 dcook Rather creepy
00:04 dcook Anyway, eythian and tcohen, Zebra does seem pretty fast, it seems like it's how we handle the results which is slow :/
00:04 tcohen is he canadian??
00:04 dcook American I think?
00:04 dcook Lives in Texas
00:05 dcook I also wonder why we're creating MARC::Record objects for search results..
00:05 dcook I know I saw it once but I can't remember why
00:05 tcohen that's because we need it for the non-XSLT view
00:05 dcook Haven't we deprecated that yet?
00:05 tcohen nope, not yet
00:06 tcohen but
00:06 dcook :(
00:06 tcohen having a big IF wouldn't hurt, right?
00:06 tcohen instead of overloading the API's!
00:07 tcohen actually, now we deprecated GRS-1
00:07 dcook I was just thinking that :)
00:07 tcohen as w've been thinking
00:08 tcohen half the time...
00:09 tcohen and it still spends time creating those MARC::Record objects
00:10 tcohen 1 full second spent on loading C4::Budgets!
00:11 tcohen need to delete those profile results right now
00:13 tcohen that's dbix fault
00:13 wizzyrea tcohen, be warned, the last time someone spent much time with nytprof and koha, they quit working on koha :/
00:13 tcohen that's what I was thinking just now
00:13 tcohen delete those profiling files
00:14 tcohen we'll find the funding to re-think and re-write that
00:14 tcohen i'm sure
00:14 tcohen :-D
00:14 tcohen everyone wants its ILS to shine
00:14 wizzyrea no we need more baubles for the staff client.
00:14 wizzyrea </sarcasm>
00:15 eythian loading time of modules will be less of an issue under plack, btw
00:15 tcohen yeap
00:15 tcohen koha-plack
00:15 tcohen specially Koha::Schema
00:16 tcohen what does bauble mean?
00:16 * tcohen has too little vocabulary, it seems
00:16 wizzyrea shint toy
00:16 wizzyrea shiny*
00:16 tcohen ah
00:16 tcohen we have ES
00:16 tcohen in the making
00:16 tcohen need to make it show results faster than zebra
00:17 * tcohen needs some rest
00:17 wizzyrea you should rest :)
00:17 tcohen I like how 3.18 looks
00:18 tcohen keep that picture and make dinner for the wife
00:18 tcohen bye!
00:24 kathryn @later tcohen hi bye :)
00:24 huginn kathryn: I've exhausted my database of quotes
00:24 * kathryn tries to leave a message for tcohen , what did I do wrong?
00:25 eythian @later tell kathryn this is how you do it
00:25 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
00:26 kathryn oh I have to say tell, ta
00:26 kathryn @later tell tcohen hi and bye :)
00:26 huginn kathryn: The operation succeeded.
00:27 kathryn yusss
00:30 wajasu eyhtian: when i build packages (koha-common *.deb and such)  its got  3.14.06  in the name, do you just bump the version somewhere in install_misc when you release.
00:31 eythian wajasu: debian/build-git-snapshot knows it
00:31 wajasu its proabbly fine for me to leave it for signoffs, and just install them to test.
00:33 wajasu gonna try bug 12865 signoff
00:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12865 normal, P4, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , 'Pay amount toward all fines' does not record payment note
00:33 wajasu i mean bug 12856
00:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12856 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , koha-disable fails without disabling site
00:33 wizzyrea that'd be a good one to sign off on.
00:33 eythian if you're building from master, you should be getting 3.17
00:34 eythian that's also been signed off, mtj just didn't change the status :)
00:35 wajasu ok.
00:35 wajasu i'm working on the ldap setup
00:41 mtj oops, i'll flick to signed-off now wizzyrea, eythian ^
00:41 wizzyrea that's alright :)
00:41 eythian too late :)
00:41 mtj heh
00:41 mtj just spotted that :p
00:42 mtj all good
00:55 dcook Did I miss anything?
00:55 * dcook was writing a long email about OAuth 2.0
01:16 wizzyrea can someone give me a reason why you would disallow placing reserves if there are too many holdings to display (based on the syspref)?
01:17 dcook O_o
01:17 wizzyrea (disallow by allowing a condition that removes the place hold button)
01:17 wizzyrea this has to be a bug right?
01:17 * dcook is so confused
01:17 dcook Too many holdings to display, so no one can place holds?
01:17 wizzyrea yeah, I was confused too.
01:18 dcook I suppose it is a confusing one...
01:18 dcook If there is too many to display, I could see how it would be tough to allow them to choose one to place on hold
01:18 wizzyrea for example, if you have a bib with 60 items, and the syspref is set to 50
01:18 wizzyrea when you load the detail page, the place hold button goes away.
01:19 dcook Hmm
01:19 dcook That might be by design
01:19 dcook Although probably not a good design
01:19 wizzyrea you don't choose the item to place on hold from that screen.
01:19 dcook Exactly
01:19 dcook Probably should still be able to see the hold button
01:19 dcook As you could always place a hold on "next available"
01:19 dcook And if it's an issue of too many items... allow paging?
01:20 dcook I wonder a bit about paging with ajax datatables...
01:20 dcook (Although the ajax datatable in circulation seems a bit slow...)
01:20 dcook But yeah, I'm with ya wizzyrea
01:23 wizzyrea (this is the OPAC)
01:25 dcook wizzyrea: I'm guessing it was done on purpose but sounds like a bug to me
01:26 wizzyrea yeah, that's what I thought as well - why disallow it simply because you can't see the holdings?
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01:26 dcook Totes
01:28 wizzyrea I want someone to explain because it's a really simple fix but I'm not sure if it's a bug in Koha or just something that bothers this library.
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01:31 dcook Fair enough
01:31 dcook je n'ai aucune idée
01:36 dcook Hmm or rather... je n'en ai aucune idée
01:36 dcook That probably makes more sens
01:36 dcook sense*
01:37 * dcook is vaguely determined not to forget how to write French
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01:37 * dcook imagines eythian making a comment about how it's easy to write out the word "French" :p
01:37 wizzyrea *snicker*
01:37 dcook Ok, Tomcat must've restarted by now..
01:38 eythian Je ne ferais pas ça
01:38 dcook hehe
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02:20 dcook Interesting...
02:20 wahanui interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad
02:20 dcook I should take a look at master..
02:20 dcook The RSS link on the opac-search page is html filtered and url filtered
02:21 dcook (and I have a feeling it's already uri escaped in C4::Search)
02:22 dcook Eep
02:22 dcook That might be my fault
02:22 dcook Way to go, dcook
02:22 dcook Breaking everything
02:23 dcook Yep. I totally was the one who introduced that regression...
02:24 dcook Although I think I may have just been copying something done earlier in buildQuery..
02:27 dcook Hmm... and somehow the double-encoded strings still work sometimes...
02:32 dcook Hmm, because I think it's somehow getting triple encoded...and then it stops working
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02:35 dcook Hmm
02:35 dcook Actually, it doesn't look like me
02:36 dcook It looks like it was gmcharlt
02:36 dcook And someone before him
02:36 dcook But that can't be right..
02:39 dcook Mmm, someone added the uri_escaping, and I must've just copied it over..
02:40 dcook Yep. yep. That's what happened...
02:43 dcook Hmm, it was jcamins
02:46 dcook Well damn...
02:47 dcook Using html/url filters all over the place while encoding it in the module too
03:24 eythian t/db_dependent/00-strict.t takes a while to run
03:26 dcook Oh man...
03:27 dcook If you send a double encoded query string to a http address that redirects to a https address, you get a triple encoded query string
03:27 dcook And because Koha is sitting behind a reverse proxy, it'll never know it should be using https instead of http
03:27 dcook \o/
03:27 dcook So many levels of win stacked on top of each other
03:28 dcook Hmm although now it's not working at all...
03:28 * dcook pokes Koha
03:29 dcook Ah, I butchered the query string..
03:34 eythian oh damnit then it fails because of a missing dependency
03:53 dcook Sweet, were able to change the reverse proxy so it stopped the triple encoding
03:53 dcook double encoding for all!
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04:00 eythian another missing dep :>
04:00 eythian :<
04:00 eythian ok, let's do this properly and run the dep checker thing
04:02 * dcook always enjoys eythian and dcook rambling about different things in the afternoon
04:04 dcook plack?
04:04 wahanui Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See for more information.
04:05 dcook Ooo there's a video of speed comparisons
04:07 dcook Daaang
04:07 eythian we have a site running on plack
04:07 eythian you can't get past the login screen though
04:08 eythian every so often they send out a newsletter that would bring the regular install to its knees, so we placked it and now we don't notice when they do that.
04:09 dcook Sweet :)
04:09 dcook I keep wanting to try it but I always forget about it
04:09 dcook I'm certain it would be a great idea for some of our sites though
04:10 dcook That's plack for both the opac and the staff client or just the opac?
04:10 eythian just the opac, though the staff client is mostly ready, it needs testing.
04:15 dcook Mmm, that's what I thought might be the case
04:15 dcook That's certainly all right
04:15 eythian What I'm trying to test right now is hopefully a final fix for syspref caching
04:16 dcook I admit that the caching and global variables stuff still confuses me a bit
04:16 dcook But I'm sure if I actually tried it and saw it, I'd have a better idea
04:17 eythian well, there's two things. One is that there's something funny with globals that I don't quite get. The other is that you can't do in-process caching as it'll be wrong in the other processes.
04:19 dcook Yeah, the global thing gets me, although I think I'm starting to understand how "our" works... finally.
04:20 dcook As for in-process caching... yeah I could see that being an issue
04:25 dcook Mmm, it looks like the sample Apache config would set https for the Plack server..
04:26 dcook Ahh, the middleware would handle that. Right right..
04:26 dcook I think I read about that before
04:26 dcook Mmmm, too many projects
04:29 dcook Plack, going further with DBIC, fixing the query building, building a better Z39.50 API...
04:29 dcook Plus regular work :p
04:29 dcook Regular work being the only paid one :p
04:29 dcook Well, ish
04:29 dcook Mm, OAI client
04:30 * dcook will be intrigued to hear how the road map comes along
04:30 dcook It would be great to have some direction or even a list of features that people are working on / want to see
04:30 dcook Well, not just features. A list of... "code" that people are working on / want to see
04:31 dcook I suppose that's what Trello was trying to do
04:41 wajasu ethyian. since the koha-common deps are not in install_misc/debian.packages, after attempting dpkg -i koha-common_3.14.06_all.deb (my master version),  i just do  apt-get -f install to get those last few(libjs-yui, etc) installed.
04:41 eythian yep
04:41 eythian there's also koha-perldeps in that repo
04:41 eythian that installs all the libraries that koha needs, but not koha itself
04:45 wajasu since i am doing my docker thing, i did use the koha-perldeps, and can launch my lightweight  container , and do   dpkg-checkbuilddeps, dpkg-buildpackage and dpkg -i koha_common...deb
04:49 wajasu i also have a git repo, and i  do a    git clone --depth 1   upon conatiner launch which gives me a workspace to quickly checkout a branch and apply patches.
04:49 wajasu later i'll get it so i can give it a list of patched to grab from bugzilla to apply.
04:50 wajasu for now. i am going to get a ldap container and enable testing for that.
04:59 * dcook thumbs up
04:59 dcook Sounds like things are progressing, wajasu
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06:22 liw dcook, backups are fascinatingly wonderful and awesome in every way, aren't they?
06:44 * magnuse waves
06:45 liw dcook, as to where I am now:[…]NjOTEGD2ybZHXFyVw
06:46 liw hi, magnuse
06:46 magnuse hiya liw
06:48 magnuse yeah, november without snow is dark...
06:48 magnuse @wunder boo
06:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (7:20 AM CET on November 26, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
06:49 magnuse that temp is quite awesomw, though
06:49 magnuse @wunder helsinki
06:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 4.0°C (8:20 AM EET on November 26, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
06:49 magnuse hah!
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07:22 ashimema your around a fiar bit at the minute liw.. nice to have you :)
07:29 * cait waves too
07:34 * magnuse waves at cait
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07:39 reiveune hello
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07:57 Joubu hello
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07:59 alex_a bonjour
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08:36 gaetan_B hello
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08:48 Joubu @later tell tcohen I have just submited a patch on bug 13242, please have a look.
08:48 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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10:14 * cait waves
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10:25 saa we are using latest koha 3.16.04
10:25 saa we are getting following error  Can't call method "as_string" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 1608
10:25 saa can someone help to sort thi
10:25 saa for one record it was giving this error
10:25 saa we tried to delete that record
10:25 saa but now adding any new record it throws this error
10:27 Joubu saa: it comes from the isbn
10:27 saa but we deleted that record and added again
10:27 saa but error is still there
10:27 saa shall i remove isbn of that record
10:30 Joubu saa: what is the isbn of that record?
10:31 cait Joubu: thx for bug 13242 - noticed the warning yesterday and today there is a patch :)
10:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13242 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Slow checkin for patrons restricted indefinitely
10:32 cait shoudl we reset the bug status?
10:32 Joubu cait: no, either I open a new bug report or I don't change the bug status
10:33 Joubu I let Tomas decides :)
10:33 cait ok
10:33 cait just don't want it to get missed
10:33 cait the letter patches looked quite good this morning, but couldn't finish before i had to leave
10:33 Joubu cait: but you can test and sign it off if you want
10:34 Joubu it'll help Tomas
10:34 Joubu cait: I pinged Tomas, it should see it
10:35 saa 9879350061855
10:36 saa i tried deleting isbn but still no luck
10:39 Joubu saa: it does not look a valid isbn
10:40 saa fine i removed it
10:40 saa but then still error is there
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10:41 Joubu saa: you get the error on saving the record?
10:42 saa yes
10:42 Joubu saa: let me try
10:45 Joubu saa: I am able to add edit a notice, set the isbn to "9879350061855", save the record
10:45 Joubu without any error
10:45 Joubu note: I am an UNIMARC user
10:45 Joubu using 3.16.04
10:46 cait hm pootle
10:46 Joubu saa: "but now adding any new record it throws this error" you meant if you import the record or if you catalog it?
10:46 cait can someone access/translate?
10:47 Joubu yes
10:47 Joubu at least on the home page
10:47 cait hm it's weird, some pages really fast, others not coming up on first try, will keep trying
10:48 saa adding any new record
10:49 Joubu saa: please open a new bug report and detail the different steps to reproduce
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10:50 saa ok
10:52 saa tx
11:41 Joubu @later tell tcohen have a look at bug 9043 too please
11:41 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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12:15 ashimema rangi++ #bug 12831
12:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12831 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , local only logins should still work when ldap authentication is enabled
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12:23 tcohen morning!
12:24 tcohen Joubu++
12:27 tcohen @later tell kathryn I love the song you recommended me, had to transport it a bit to be able to sing it, but it's beautiful
12:27 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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12:48 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
12:48 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #184: FIXED in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]_U12_MariaDB/184/
12:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13271 - Subject search links broken if XSLT and OPACPopupAuthorsSearch are both off
12:48 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13293 - Regression: Override renewal limit option broken with AJAX circ
12:48 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 13328: Rename Kurdish translation files
12:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13314: Fridolin and Simith fixes to the .mailmap file
12:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13314: Holger Meissner needs a mapping
12:48 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 13314: [QA Follow-up]: Add another line for Fridolin to .mailmap
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13271 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Subject search links broken if XSLT and OPACPopupAuthorsSearch are both off
12:48 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13297 - Shelving location PROC does not work according to manual
12:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13314: attribute Oslo Public Library
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13293 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Regression: Override renewal limit option broken with AJAX circ
12:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13314: (QA followup) fix for inLibro
12:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13314: (QA followup) fixes for CINECA
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13328 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Rename Kurdish translation files
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13314 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Fixes to .mailmap for the 3.18 release
12:48 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13329: Fix create a suggestion at the OPAC
12:48 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13330 - All overdue items with fines returned via checkouts table will have fines forgiven!
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13297 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Shelving location PROC does not work according to manual
12:48 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 13157: UNIMARC holdingbranch facet is 995$c not 995$b
12:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13157: (QA followup) homebranch is 995$b on UNIMARC frameworks
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13329 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Can't make new suggestion with AllowPurchaseSuggestionBranchChoice turned on
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13330 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , All overdue items with fines returned via checkouts table will have fines forgiven!
12:48 jenkins_koha * Bug 10749: Fix typo in budget_add_del permission
12:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10749: DBRev
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13157 minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Fix holdingbranch facet for UNIMARC
12:48 jenkins_koha * ByWater Staff: Bug 12959 - Check in forgets to remember arbitrary backdating of returns setting
12:48 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12851: order tags should be removed from the claiming letter
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10749 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , patron permissions typos
12:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12851: (QA followup) tests should not expect the <order> tag
12:48 jenkins_koha * simith: Bug 12536 - Incorrect number of irregularity issues
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12959 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Check in forgets to remember arbitrary backdating of returns setting
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12851 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , order tags are not removed on claiming serials/orders
12:48 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 10956 - Series of OPAC searches can cause a browser crash
12:48 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 12865 - 'Pay amount toward all fines' does not record payment note
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12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12536 normal, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Incorrect number of irregularity issues
12:48 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12298: The "feed" MTT does not seem to be used and can be removed
12:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12298: DBRev
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10956 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Series of OPAC searches can cause a browser crash
12:48 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13152 - Duplicate phone hold notices when using Talking Tech
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12865 normal, P4, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , 'Pay amount toward all fines' does not record payment note
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The "feed" MTT does not seem to be used
12:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13152 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Duplicate phone hold notices when using Talking Tech
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12:59 oleonard Hi #koha
13:00 Joubu Is there a valid reason to add items to the record when the cart is downloaded, and not when we sent it?
13:00 Joubu at least at the opac
13:01 Joubu same from the intranet interface
13:01 Joubu same for shelf (but the code has certainly been c/p)
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13:02 Joubu Is it a bug or the expected behavior?
13:02 Joubu I would expect to get the same file in both cases.
13:08 oleonard I would say it's a bug Joubu. Probably an unintentional inconsistency.
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13:59 Joubu oleonard: ok thanks
13:59 * Joubu is gonna fill a bug
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14:16 tcohen marcelr: thanks
14:17 Joubu patch submited on bug 13343
14:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13343 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Items are not embedded when sending a basket/shelve
14:18 Joubu shelf
14:21 tcohen Joubu: i cannot see the wonderful image
14:21 tcohen but i see errors are gone
14:21 Joubu tcohen: reload reload reload :)
14:21 Joubu clear cache
14:22 Joubu tcohen: it's just a small arrow (up down)
14:22 tcohen ah, yes
14:22 tcohen it is wonderfull
14:22 Joubu :)
14:22 tcohen i expected some exotic dancer
14:22 tcohen :-P
14:22 tcohen thanks for the patch!
14:27 tcohen blockers?
14:27 * cait waves
14:31 tcohen hi oh QAM
14:31 magnuse all hail the qam!
14:31 cait lol
14:33 magnuse ...and the rm!
14:33 cait oh RM
14:33 cait tcohen: in a good mood today? :)
14:34 oleonard He's drunk with power
14:34 tcohen hell yeah
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14:35 tcohen we are all puppets
14:35 tcohen the QAM controls everything in the shadows
14:35 oleonard I knew it!!
14:35 cait muahahaha ?
14:35 tcohen heh
14:35 * oleonard has been hearing this from his tooth filling radios for years now
14:36 cait ;)
14:37 tcohen i'm excited because of the release :-D
14:37 tcohen feeling good about it
14:38 wajasu remind me.  when is the last day i can do signoffs before a release.
14:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13332: Fix conflict between 5304 and 10860 <[…]831d97f32fb5e48c8> / Bug 9043: Add a wonderful image <[…]ebd398a11efa7ab76> / Bug 13242: Remove warning if no parameter given <[…]f63aaf22429eb77de
14:38 cait tcohen:  :)
14:38 cait feels like we are on track mostly now
14:39 tcohen wajasu: it depends
14:39 tcohen :-D
14:40 wajasu well.  i've gotten bit in the past thinking i had another day, but timezone gets the best of me.
14:40 tcohen wajasu: more seriously, tomorrow sounds good to me for bugfixes
14:42 tcohen wajasu: are you working on the LDAP patches?
14:43 tcohen those are the most important
14:43 wajasu i think i saw that someone got 12831 signed off while i was sleeping.  but i see other LDAP ones i will try.
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14:55 Guest919 Good morning.  I recently installed koha on my libraries computer and just needed some help turning on the auto barcode generator feature.  Would anyone be able to walk me through it?
14:57 Guest919 oleonard: any pointers?
14:57 oleonard Guest919: The manual talks about the autoBarcode preference in this section: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ministration.html
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15:02 magnuse hiya nlegrand
15:02 nlegrand o/ magnuse
15:04 Guest919 Thank you very much oleonard.  I found it and will turn on that feature.  Anything perls of wisdom or pitfalls you think I need to know about barcoding?
15:05 oleonard Guest919: Are you starting from scratch with an unbarcoded collection?
15:05 Guest919 I believe so.  We have a library full of books and none of them are entered into koha yet
15:06 Guest919 would you recommend branch barcoding?
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15:07 oleonard I wouldn't recommend barcoding items differently based on what branch they are from.
15:07 oleonard Others might disagree.
15:08 oleonard I think it creates inflexibility with regard to moving collections around.
15:10 Guest919 This should not be a problem, as we only have one library.  Is this what that setting means when I select 'barcodes are generated in the form <branchcode>'?
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15:15 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:15 mtompset tcohen: I know about the Filipino subs. Manny and I were reviewing it the other day. :)
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16:12 wajasu TODO: i am using koha-create and such with a remote mysql host.  i think i can get remote mysql support by making the getmysqlhost function check /etc/mysql/conf.d for a koha.conf host= statement as well.
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17:38 gaetan_B bye
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17:52 reiveune bye
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18:10 tcohen back
18:15 mtompset front. :)
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18:24 wajasu using a remote mysql server.  when hitting localhost:80 after initial install, and a koha-create --create-db library, and my sites/library.conf has "mysqlhost" instead of "localhost", i get "Can't connect to local MYSQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 802."
18:25 wajasu i assume the apache sets the KOHA_CONF, but maybe I need my ServerName  defined in /etc/hosts.  i'll try tweaking that
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18:27 cbrannon Can anyone point me to a list of cron jobs I should set for a Koha test box?
18:28 cbrannon I've got a VM test box set, but I'm not sure what I should have going in the background for testing.
18:31 mtompset If you installed from packages, it generally has all the ones you want by default.
18:32 cbrannon I don't know that I installed from packages.  That term did not come up in my installation process.
18:33 wajasu you can look for and cat /etc/cron.d/koha-common   if you did packages
18:33 cbrannon Maybe I'm fine.  The book I just added started showing in searches.
18:34 tcohen wajasu: in order to use koha-create for a remote db
18:34 tcohen I had to change the host in /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf
18:35 tcohen set the db config in /etc/koha/passwd
18:35 tcohen and then create the instance using koha-create --use-db <name>
18:35 tcohen the DB's are already created on the remote server
18:38 wajasu tcohen: i did that, and i got the db created.  when the apache restarts it complains about  not finding a fully qualified ServerName, so i tweaked /etc/hosts and quieted that.  i need to find what is trying to open the mysqld.sock
18:38 * wajasu find and grepping
18:38 tcohen apache doesn't know nothing about myslq
18:42 wajasu DBIC in uses some mysql client library, or tries to open /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock   so i am looking into any of those configs.
18:46 tcohen wajasu: some kind of caching of the koha-conf.xml file is happening
18:47 tcohen otherwise it doesn't make sense, if your koha-conf.xml points to the remote server
18:47 tcohen (of course)
18:49 wajasu or maybe the password fails and the DBIC tries to open the socket, and it doesn't exist.  I'll look at the DBIC docs.
18:50 tcohen is anyone on the QA team willing to QA the LDAP patches?
18:51 tcohen bug 9165, bug 12831
18:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9165 enhancement, P4, ---, robin, Signed Off , Allow preventing passwords from being stored locally when using LDAP
18:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12831 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , local only logins should still work when ldap authentication is enabled
18:51 tcohen also bug 13215, PLEASE!
18:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13215 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , letter.code is considered as a primary key
18:55 cbrannon when I use git commit --amend -s, do I do anything to save, or do I just ^X out?
18:55 mtompset Is that for a sign off?
18:55 cbrannon Yes
18:56 rangi morning
18:56 rangi cbrannon: it should prompt you to save when you exit, choose yes
18:56 cbrannon This is my first attempt outside of a sandbox
18:56 cbrannon It doesn't seem to.
18:56 mtompset[…]ion#Signing_off_2
18:57 mtompset In your .git/config create an [alias] section, if you don't have one, and use that nasty long 'so' function.
18:57 mtompset Then you can just 'git so 1' to sign off the last patch.
18:57 mtompset or 'git so 5' to sign the last 5 patches.
18:59 cbrannon Are there instructions somewhere on the [alias]?
19:00 mtompset Not that I know of... just a second...
19:01 rangi for the time being tho, you can just sign off with git commit --amend -s
19:01 rangi you dont need to let setting up an alias thats supposed to save you time, waste your time :-)
19:01 pastebot "mtompset" at pasted "Top part of my .git/config" (22 lines) at
19:02 mtompset and if you are using ^X, then you are using nano as your editor. ;)
19:03 mtompset I like my 'export EDITOR=vi' :)
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19:03 oleonard It's fun navigating Koha in another language from sheer muscle memory.
19:04 cbrannon I worried I'm going to screw this up.
19:05 oleonard I remember someone once screwed up signing off on a patch. ... ONCE.
19:06 rangi theres nothing you do you cant undo
19:06 cbrannon unless you don't know how you did it or how to undo it
19:08 mtompset If I recall, the only thing a sign off does is put that funky 'Signed-off-by: {name} <{email address}>' at the end.
19:08 mtompset Really easy to undo with a git commit --amend. :)
19:42 cbrannon So, I tried the whole alias so thing, but it keeps telling me bash: !f: event not found
19:46 oleonard cbrannon: Forget the alias and just try the signoff the old-fashioned way
19:47 cbrannon I did.  I managed to do it.  :)  I want to get a few more of these under my belt and then I'll start trying the multi patch bugs.
19:49 cbrannon oleonard: the only thing I was not able to do was the whole git send-email thing at the end.  Git says 'send-email' is not a git command.  I must be missing something somewhere.
19:49 oleonard cbrannon: Which instructions are you following?
19:51 cbrannon[…]_bz_configuration  under signing off.
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19:52 rangi if you want to still send the mail (Its not a requirement, just a nice to have) you can sudo apt-get install git-email
19:52 oleonard I don't think anyone is still sending to the patches list anymore
19:53 cbrannon Well, if you're not, then I wont.  :)
19:54 cbrannon Cause oleonard is the model I follow.  ;)
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19:55 oleonard Well then good news cbrannon, quitting time is in 6 minutes!
19:56 cbrannon Actually, I'm taking the lead on this.  Gotta go get some lunch.  Thanks for the assist oleonard, mtompset, and @rangi.  :)
19:56 mtompset You're welcome. :)
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20:34 mtompset quick question, is bash typically installed on debian and ubuntu by default?
20:35 mtompset I'm just wondering if we could have a BASH script, instead of a SH script for a koha command script.
20:35 wajasu tcohen: figured out my problem.  for future reference. i was connecting to the wrong apache instance on my docker host.  i used lynx within the docker container instance just fine. i need to expose my ports 80,8080 to my host OS since i was using its web browser.
20:50 eythian hi
20:50 eythian mtompset: we can assume bash is installed I think
20:50 eythian if not, we can depend on it
20:50 eythian well, for packages anyway
20:51 mtompset I posed the question on the development list, just in case no one noticed this. :)
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20:54 mtompset because I did find a portable way to do the read, but it is hard to read for a beginner.
20:54 eythian $ apt-cache show bash | grep Priority
20:54 eythian Priority: required
20:54 wahanui required is more comfortable as a developer of course :) I'll go with that.
20:55 pastebot "mtompset" at pasted "Portable 'Press any key to continue...'" (7 lines) at
20:56 eythian that's ugly.
20:58 mtj mtompset:[…]ment.cgi?id=33020
20:59 mtompset But functional, eythian.
20:59 mtompset And yes, that's the patch I'm looking at mtj.
20:59 mtompset Go with a bash tweak? :)
21:00 mtj ah cool :)
21:00 eythian that doesn't make it right. I would have just changed it to "press enter to continue" and used the read
21:01 mtj[…]nput_Via_Keyboard
21:02 mtj thats a bit...saner
21:06 mtompset Yes, but if they have a Mac, it is Return. :P
21:08 eythian then it's their own fault for using a mac
21:08 mtompset What happened to freedom to use anything for a dumb terminal? :P
21:09 rangi as long as its running free software thats fine
21:11 wajasu maybe[…]-is-this-portable
21:11 wajasu sort of a heredoc
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21:17 * cait waves
21:19 eythian hi cait
21:20 cait hi eythian
21:25 mtj heres a mac related Q, does anyone know of a laptop brand that has a magsafe style power adapter?
21:26 mtj (other than apple)
21:28 eythian they're probably not allowed to have them
21:28 mtj yeah, i fully expect that
21:28 mtj 'Apple exclusively owns US Patent No. 7311526 ("Magnetic connector for electronic device", issued in 2007) and does not license the MagSafe connector or the patent.'
21:29 mtj
21:29 rangi dicks
21:29 mtj lots of DIY examples on the net, but not much else :/
21:30 mtompset mtj, I attached a 3 patch on the bug. :)
21:43 mtj ta mtompset
21:43 mtompset hopefully I didn't collide your sign off for the second patch. :)
21:44 mtj i'm planning to add another patch to it, so the 'press enter' stuff is optional
21:45 mtj ie: give the command an arg, to just return the passwd
21:46 mtj ..i havent tested, but i assume it wont do that now
21:46 mtj (was the orig. way i wanted it to work) ^
21:47 mtj would be handy for piping etc
21:47 mtj and scripting
22:24 mtompset mtj: clear after every one and only at the bottom would be nice. ;)
22:28 dcook not sure how long this lasts but...
22:28 dcook hidden is
22:28 dcook hidden?
22:28 wahanui hmmm... hidden is -6?
22:28 dcook hidden is also
22:28 wahanui okay, dcook.
22:28 dcook hidden?
22:28 wahanui hidden is -6?
22:28 dcook hidden?
22:28 wahanui hidden is
22:29 eythian no wahanui, hidden is
22:29 wahanui okay, eythian.
22:30 dcook Not sure how often those get splatted but I hate looking up that info
22:30 dcook Especially as we don't put it in the help pages anymore as it's irrelevant to users
22:31 eythian ah yeah
22:31 eythian good point
22:32 dcook Maybe a wiki page I suppose
22:32 dcook Hmm..
22:39 dcook I wish I remembered all those projects I listed recently..
22:40 dcook Yay for logs
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22:46 tcohen hi
22:46 wahanui hi, tcohen
22:46 dcook @later tell ashimema I didn't know you liked kayaking![…]ki/User:MRenvoize
22:46 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
22:48 tcohen hi dcook
22:48 dcook heya tcohen :)
22:53 eythian tcohen: when is the 3.18 release?
22:54 eythian I need to make a changelog patch to go into it
22:54 tcohen during your saturday
22:54 eythian I'll do that now then...
22:54 tcohen great
22:54 dcook Woot! That's soon :)
22:54 tcohen it's almost done
22:54 tcohen missing the release notes
22:55 tcohen and some pending bugs that are on the QA team queue
22:55 dcook tcohen: Already making plans for 3.20...[…]pment%20interests
22:55 dcook Well, not really plans. Just interests...
22:55 eythian PLANS
22:55 dcook ALL THE PLANS!
22:55 dcook @seen liw
22:55 huginn dcook: liw was last seen in #koha 16 hours, 9 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <liw> hi, magnuse
22:56 tcohen could you add "remove GRS1 code"
22:56 dcook Hmm 6pm yesterday?
22:56 dcook Ooo, I do care about Zebra indexing...
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23:23 tcohen eythian: we should sync for the release, right?
23:24 tcohen tell me what I need to prepare for you to build the packages
23:24 eythian roughly, though it doesn't matter too much
23:26 tcohen did u solve the dependencies problem you found last nigh?T
23:27 eythian yeah, though I cheated and lazy-loaded things
23:39 dcook I am so lost about messaging preferences these days...
23:39 dcook Mmmm... it might help if I'm checking the right database
23:39 dcook Jeez louise
23:40 dcook Stilll...
23:41 dcook message_attributes vs message_transports? wth...
23:43 cait dcook: you can remove zebra native facets from the list now )
23:43 dcook Yeah, I was thinking about that
23:43 dcook Is it totally in?
23:44 * dcook wonders where tcohen finds all the time
23:44 tcohen dcook: yes, and it'd be fair that you pick one of those from the list
23:44 dcook ?
23:44 tcohen dcook: you should ask Cecilia
23:44 dcook pick one from which list? who's cecilia?
23:44 * dcook is lost
23:44 tcohen Cecilia is the wife
23:45 dcook Ah, I thought you were talking about facets still
23:45 dcook lol
23:45 tcohen and pick one, and doo eet
23:45 dcook tcohen: Currently working on the OAI and DBIC stuff :)
23:45 dcook Have to do some BAU at the moment though :/
23:45 tcohen YAY!
23:45 dcook The DBIC stuff is... slightly disheartening
23:45 dcook I think I've resolved almost all the major issues though
23:46 dcook Still looks like something weird happens if a person tries to drop a foreign key though :/
23:46 dcook I think it's a bug in SQL::Translator::* but haven't isolated it yet
23:46 tcohen dcook: FTR the zebra facets, i did during my working hours + free time (it was a bet with jared)
23:46 dcook Mmm, right. I forgot about the bet!
23:46 dcook How many libraries do you have again? 40-something?
23:47 tcohen yeap
23:47 tcohen 46 instances in production, some are just small collections
23:47 dcook I think we have 62, and while not all of them get in touch regularly, they keep me busy :/
23:47 tcohen yeap. same here
23:47 dcook Wish I had an underling...
23:47 tcohen I promised them 3.18 would shine for them
23:47 dcook :)
23:47 tcohen so...
23:47 dcook Ahhh
23:48 tcohen they weren't pushing too much last month
23:48 cait :)
23:48 tcohen oh, i proposed the bigger libraries to let me have a person from each
23:48 tcohen volunteers
23:49 tcohen once a week
23:49 tcohen (librarians)
23:49 tcohen to have a super-training working with me
23:49 dcook Mmm, I like that idea!
23:49 dcook I would love to interact more in-depth with the bigger libraries
23:49 tcohen so it's been 4 month or so with 3-4 volunteers
23:49 dcook Train the trainer as it were
23:49 tcohen solving libraries problems
23:50 dcook That is really awesome :)
23:50 tcohen they will come back to the libraries
23:50 cait :)
23:50 tcohen with lots of knowledge
23:50 cait tcohen++
23:50 dcook tcohen++
23:50 dcook What an excellent idea :)
23:50 tcohen and also the will to participate on the lists..
23:50 tcohen part of the team :-D
23:50 dcook \o/
23:50 cait brainwashing volunteers... hmmm... :)
23:50 dcook hehe
23:51 tcohen they are supposed to rotate, next year there will be new ones
23:51 tcohen i cannot work alone anymore
23:51 dcook I imagine!
23:51 dcook That would be handy in a university environment having those volunteers
23:51 tcohen yeap
23:52 dcook Actually, I really want to also do the reverse
23:52 dcook I'd love to spend time in some of our larger medical libraries
23:52 dcook Observing how librarians and medical staff interact
23:52 dcook So that I can give some suggestions on ways they can improve their services
23:52 dcook And how we might be able to help in terms of the technology
23:52 tcohen for DSpace I've got a software engineer volunteer from a team interested in repositories
23:52 dcook tcohen is king of the lab
23:52 dcook tcohen?
23:52 wahanui well, tcohen is obsessed with automated testing :)
23:53 dcook tcohen is also king of the lab
23:53 wahanui okay, dcook.
23:53 dcook :)
23:53 tcohen in my office, i'm the one with no team :'( i managed to get one
23:53 tcohen cait?
23:53 wahanui i guess cait is just silly on a train again
23:53 tcohen cait?
23:53 wahanui cait is from germany. Ask me about germany.
23:53 tcohen cait?
23:53 wahanui i guess cait is regretting a bit that we didn't offer this as an option first... or on a test system for people to see
23:53 tcohen cait: go to sleep
23:54 dcook @time
23:54 huginn dcook: I suck
23:54 dcook @time yvr
23:54 huginn dcook: I suck
23:54 dcook Hmm didn't think @time was a thing
23:54 dcook Yikes... 12:54 am..
23:54 dcook I didn't get home from Interstellar until after 11 and I thought that was late..
23:54 tcohen cait: those german strings can wait until tomorrow
23:55 tcohen #koha needs a healthy QAM
23:55 dcook Or... maybe cait just needs cybernetic enhancements?
23:55 dcook Mmm maybe the former idea is better
23:57 cait huh?
23:58 dcook tcohen: Uh oh. She's lost her mind!

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