| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:05 |
|
mtj |
hi cait,eythian, ill have a look at bug 8866 later |
| 00:05 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8866 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Plack - remove unneeded dbh->disconnects OMNIBUS |
| 00:05 |
|
mtj |
i cant remember much about it either :/ |
| 00:05 |
|
cait |
thx! |
| 00:06 |
|
mtj |
...from memory it was something mentioned on #koha (probably on the same day as the bug) |
| 00:06 |
|
mtj |
i'll add more info, or close it |
| 00:12 |
|
tcohen |
is it true that we need to remove those? |
| 00:19 |
|
mtj |
hiya tcohen |
| 00:19 |
|
mtj |
i took a little look in the #koha logs, i think my bug was logged after a convo on 2012-09-16 |
| 00:20 |
|
mtj |
http://ilbot2.kohaaloha.com/ou[…]a;date=2012-09-16 |
| 00:20 |
|
tcohen |
usually, one configures the ORM to take care of the DB connexion pool |
| 00:20 |
|
tcohen |
but shouldn't we have different ways of dealing with db connexions for persistent and non-persistent environments? |
| 00:21 |
|
* tcohen |
talks knowing only about jboss |
| 00:21 |
|
mtj |
a related bug 8379 |
| 00:21 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8379 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, CLOSED FIXED, Encoding problem under Plack |
| 00:24 |
|
mtj |
dobrica says in that bug ''don't close the DBH handler, because under plack this cause a lot of problem and in CGI mode, closing the dbh handler is useless' |
| 00:26 |
|
eythian |
yes |
| 00:26 |
|
tcohen |
mtj: thanks, I'll take a look |
| 00:26 |
|
eythian |
if you close it in plack, then you have no handle |
| 00:26 |
|
mtj |
looks like those '->disconnects' are all gone now - so problem looks fixed |
| 00:27 |
|
* tcohen |
wonders what is the "desired" dbic configuration |
| 00:28 |
|
mtj |
sorry about the crappy bug report, folks |
| 00:31 |
|
eythian |
mtj now must wear the bad bug report hat until it gets passed along to the next person. |
| 00:31 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 00:32 |
|
* mtj |
sulks in teh corner |
| 00:32 |
|
eythian |
sulking with the hat though |
| 00:33 |
|
cait |
heh |
| 00:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
wow. |
| 00:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://preaprez.files.wordpres[…]nce-cap.jpg?w=600 |
| 00:34 |
|
eythian |
mtj wearing a suit, never thought I'd see the day. |
| 00:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
extra punishment. |
| 00:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
j/k <3 mtj |
| 00:37 |
|
mtj |
wizzyrea, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8I4D[…]j8/s400/devo_.jpg |
| 00:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
haha even better :) |
| 00:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D9SU3Gw9VU mtj |
| 00:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
fun fact, Mark Mothersbaugh has done the scores for heaps of kids movies. |
| 00:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
well heaps, at least 3 that I know of. |
| 00:43 |
|
mtj |
awesome link wiz |
| 00:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 00:46 |
|
* mtj |
goes back to the corner |
| 00:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh gods I've gone down the rabbit hole. |
| 00:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyVzjoj96vs quick someone get me a preschooler |
| 00:47 |
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| 00:47 |
|
eythian |
“This plan is so simple, a child of five could understand it. Run out and fetch a child of five to explain it to me." |
| 00:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 00:49 |
|
dcook |
heh |
| 00:58 |
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| 01:06 |
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| 01:25 |
|
mtj |
dcook: sweet jesus, i've had to resort to xslt transforms to fix my xml file |
| 01:27 |
|
mtj |
the thing that caught me out was having repeating record fields |
| 01:27 |
|
dcook |
Repeating record fields? |
| 01:28 |
|
dcook |
I've just been working on a XSLT for importing records via OAI. A bit frustrating but overall pretty satisfying :). |
| 01:30 |
|
mtj |
repeating like... |
| 01:30 |
|
mtj |
<rec> |
| 01:30 |
|
mtj |
<title>abc</title> |
| 01:30 |
|
mtj |
<auth>aaa</auth> |
| 01:30 |
|
mtj |
<auth>bbb</auth> |
| 01:30 |
|
mtj |
</rec> |
| 01:31 |
|
mtj |
or repeated subject or notes fields |
| 01:31 |
|
dcook |
You figured it out in the end? |
| 01:32 |
|
dcook |
I assume using for-each or templates? |
| 01:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
owen's blog? |
| 01:32 |
|
wahanui |
i guess owen's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ |
| 01:32 |
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| 01:32 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: kathryn |
| 01:32 |
|
wahanui |
kathryn is, like, on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.[…]s720/ROSS9901.JPG |
| 01:34 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, tempted to play with Koha::Cache... |
| 01:35 |
|
dcook |
eythian: any advice? |
| 01:35 |
|
dcook |
I'm storing a xslt filename and a frameworkcode on a server by server basis |
| 01:35 |
|
eythian |
dcook: sure. It should be well documented, and if not, that's a bug. |
| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
? |
| 01:36 |
|
eythian |
Koha::Cache |
| 01:36 |
|
wahanui |
Koha::Cache is, like, more invalidation-friendly |
| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
Ahhh |
| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
:p |
| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
It does look pretty good at a glance |
| 01:36 |
|
eythian |
I assume this is what you're talking about? |
| 01:37 |
|
kathryn |
thanks again for that, eythian... |
| 01:37 |
|
eythian |
yw |
| 01:37 |
|
dcook |
Where did that photo come from again? |
| 01:37 |
|
* dcook |
recalls a story behind it... |
| 01:38 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Yeah, at the moment I'm just caching a xslt and frameworkcode on a server by server basis using an ID as the key. I figure it might be a better idea to use Koha::Cache though.. |
| 01:38 |
|
eythian |
dcook: kathryn will explain it |
| 01:38 |
|
eythian |
dcook: it probably would be |
| 01:39 |
|
kathryn |
dcook hiya :) That's what happens when you go on work trips with rangi . one minute you're eating dinner, nek minnit... |
| 01:40 |
|
kathryn |
it's also how things roll sometimes at Lianza - NZ libraries conf... |
| 01:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
this year there was a person in spear fishing getup at the conference dinner. |
| 01:40 |
|
dcook |
kathryn: hey :). I still wonder about the context of course :p |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Whelp, I'll give it a shot and see how I go. |
| 01:41 |
|
mtj |
dcook: yeah i used a template example |
| 01:41 |
|
mtj |
... from here -> https://stackoverflow.com/ques[…]e-into-single-nod |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
mtj: Interesting... |
| 01:41 |
|
wahanui |
somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 01:42 |
|
dcook |
Why would you want to concatenate repeated fields? :S |
| 01:43 |
|
kathryn |
dcook: ummm...costume competition at the conference dinner (I don't recall if entering was my idea or not. I am still surprised that we agreed it was a good idea at the time...) |
| 01:43 |
|
dcook |
kathryn: So where did the costumes come from? |
| 01:43 |
|
dcook |
mtj: Or are you referring just to selecting the nodes you wanted using a template? |
| 01:44 |
|
kathryn |
dcook : oh that bit was planned. I hired the shirts/hats and rangi had a couple of hobby horses it so happens |
| 01:44 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 01:44 |
|
dcook |
As you do |
| 01:44 |
|
kathryn |
kids :) |
| 01:44 |
|
dcook |
Ahh, that'll do it |
| 01:45 |
|
dcook |
lianza seems much more interesting than conferences I've been to in the past :p |
| 01:45 |
|
mtj |
dcook: why? i have a script that converts the xml to csv |
| 01:46 |
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| 01:46 |
|
mtj |
...i then use csvtomarc.pl on that file |
| 01:46 |
|
tcohen |
is that rangi? |
| 01:47 |
|
mtj |
csvtomarc expects repeated fields to be merged, with a seperator char |
| 01:47 |
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| 01:49 |
|
dcook |
mtj: Of course, you could just use the XSLT to convert your XML into MARCXML :p |
| 01:49 |
|
dcook |
But glad you got it working in any case |
| 01:50 |
|
mtj |
do you have a xslt example of that dcook? i would be very interested ^ |
| 01:51 |
|
dcook |
What sort of XML do you have? |
| 01:51 |
|
dcook |
There's lots of examples of ___2MARCXML but they all depend on what the input is |
| 01:52 |
|
mtj |
i have a db_textwork xml file |
| 01:52 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, it's been years since I saw one of those |
| 01:53 |
|
mtj |
yeah, me too |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
I wonder if there is an existing XSLT for that... |
| 01:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
mtj I'm surprised there's nothing for dbtext in the migration toolkit |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
Yeah |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
Although if I recall correctly, I don't know if you could rely on it |
| 01:53 |
|
mtj |
i looked, couldnt find anything |
| 01:53 |
|
dcook |
Since you can make a lot of custom fields with dbtextworks |
| 01:56 |
|
tcohen |
migration toolbox? |
| 01:56 |
|
wahanui |
migration toolbox is https://gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox |
| 01:56 |
|
dcook |
Here's an example of DSpace's DIM to MARCXML: https://github.com/DSpace/DSpa[…]IM2MARC21slim.xsl |
| 01:56 |
|
dcook |
Not that I love DSpace's "to MARCXML" XSLTs |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
But there's really not much too it. My concern is usually with the leader and the 008. |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
(For instance, in this record they don't even have a 008) |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
s/record/XSLT/ |
| 01:59 |
|
eythian |
dbtextworks does XML? I've never seen that |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
Yep. They have their own tagged format. |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
People usually export as CSV though |
| 02:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
^ probably explains why there's nothing dealing with that in the migration toolkit. |
| 02:00 |
|
eythian |
I've only had their terribad CSV before. |
| 02:00 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 02:00 |
|
eythian |
been meaning to write a parser for their .dmp files |
| 02:00 |
|
dcook |
I recall migrating my dbtestworks db to marc... I want to say I did a CSV to MARC using MarcEdit |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
No... maybe I didn't |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
I think they already had a stylesheet |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
And I just had to customize it a bit to include our custom fields |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
This was actually in 2011. I don't know why my memory of it isn't better. |
| 02:02 |
|
mtj |
thanks for the dspace link dcook |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
yw |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
Ah, my bad about the tagged format. That was a different thing. |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
http://support.inmagic.com/Web[…]v9UsersManual.pdf |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
page 110 |
| 02:03 |
|
mtj |
fwiw, inmagic do have some tool to dump to marc, but its extra payware |
| 02:03 |
|
* dcook |
gives a thumbs down |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, we were going to be charged around $2000 for about 100 records I think |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
It was ridiculous |
| 02:04 |
|
mtj |
so, safe to assume most users dont have that fcking tool |
| 02:05 |
|
dcook |
Hmm page 125 for exporting.. |
| 02:06 |
|
* dcook |
used the manual to run someone through an export in 2012 |
| 02:07 |
|
dcook |
I'm fairly sure that I exported as CSV and then used MarcEdit to transform it to Marc... |
| 02:08 |
|
dcook |
If you do use MarcEdit, you can also pilfer it's XSLTs |
| 02:09 |
|
tcohen |
eythian: C4/Biblio.pm:2551 |
| 02:10 |
|
dcook |
mtj: MarcEdit 5.0\xslt |
| 02:10 |
|
dcook |
heaps and heaps there |
| 02:10 |
|
eythian |
tcohen: are you swearing at me? |
| 02:10 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 02:11 |
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| 02:11 |
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* tcohen |
headed to google translate: no eythian |
| 02:11 |
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| 02:12 |
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tcohen |
eythian: that's a good place to use Koha::Cache |
| 02:12 |
|
eythian |
$record->append_fields(@fields); |
| 02:13 |
|
eythian |
I don't see how... |
| 02:14 |
|
tcohen |
eythian: sorry, I was on the wrong branch (11944), it was line 2556 |
| 02:14 |
|
tcohen |
nevermind |
| 02:14 |
|
eythian |
# cache inverted MARC field map |
| 02:14 |
|
eythian |
our $inverted_field_map; |
| 02:14 |
|
eythian |
yes |
| 02:14 |
|
eythian |
that would be a good thing to cache |
| 02:15 |
|
eythian |
I always wonder what happens to all the children but one when that happens. |
| 02:17 |
|
dcook |
Hmmm...Koha::Cache ain't happy.. |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
tcohen: bug 12234 would be an easy one to go to master when you're next doing that sort of thing |
| 02:18 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12234 blocker, P3, ---, robin, Passed QA , Package dependency updates for master |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
dcook: how come? |
| 02:18 |
|
dcook |
I think it's that same problem I had a while back with permissions :S |
| 02:19 |
|
dcook |
I think it's because I have different instances run by different users on this server |
| 02:19 |
|
dcook |
And my dev user doesn't have access to write to the file written by a different Koha user |
| 02:20 |
|
eythian |
ah |
| 02:20 |
|
eythian |
you should set up memcached |
| 02:20 |
|
dcook |
I think the boss set it up for some other instances, but I've never played with it myself :S |
| 02:22 |
|
eythian |
it's très easy |
| 02:22 |
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tcohen |
thanks eythian |
| 02:22 |
|
eythian |
np |
| 02:24 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, doesn't look like it's even running |
| 02:24 |
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| 02:24 |
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eythian |
basically it's just install it and have it running, and then config it in koha-conf |
| 02:25 |
|
dcook |
That's how it seems on Debian-based systems |
| 02:25 |
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tcohen |
dcook: you can set a different MEMCACHE_NAMESPACE for the CLI |
| 02:25 |
|
dcook |
Everything seems harder with OpenSuse :p |
| 02:25 |
|
tcohen |
(i.e. for the tests) |
| 02:25 |
|
dcook |
tcohen: At the moment it's using FastMmap apparently |
| 02:25 |
|
dcook |
Although yeah... I see that the namespace should be configurable and it's just using "koha" by default |
| 02:25 |
|
tcohen |
if you use a different namespace, like "unit_tests" |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
$self->{'namespace'} ||= $ENV{MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE} || 'koha'; |
| 02:26 |
|
tcohen |
it seems to create a different file |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
There we are |
| 02:26 |
|
tcohen |
exactly |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
Hmm isn't ENV set by apache? |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
Would that even be set when using the CLI? :S |
| 02:27 |
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tcohen |
dcook: yes |
| 02:27 |
|
tcohen |
the thing is that your apache runs with some user... different than yours |
| 02:27 |
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tcohen |
that's why you have problems with the cache file permissions |
| 02:27 |
|
tcohen |
so, different cache file? |
| 02:27 |
|
dcook |
Totes |
| 02:27 |
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tcohen |
eythian: 11998 |
| 02:28 |
|
* tcohen |
recalls that's why he's up so late, to talk about it |
| 02:28 |
|
tcohen |
:-D |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
http://paste.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz/24c811 <-- /me grumbles at people making test cases that fail without a database |
| 02:28 |
|
* eythian |
looks at 11998 |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
oh, that one |
| 02:28 |
|
wahanui |
i heard that one was down more often than up |
| 02:32 |
|
eythian |
tcohen: I'm not totally sure how to resolve it. I presumed that it was caused by C4::Context using Koha::Cache which uses C4::Context which uses Koha::Cache which uses ... |
| 02:32 |
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eythian |
but that's just a guess. |
| 02:33 |
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tcohen |
I removed the use of C4::Log and problem solved (on my box, might be wrong too :-P) |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
tcohen: I don't understand that |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
well, why it'd make a difference |
| 02:34 |
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tcohen |
because C4:Log depends on Context? |
| 02:35 |
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tcohen |
i'm not sure, I'll retest tomorrow |
| 02:35 |
|
eythian |
but I'm not touching C4::Log |
| 02:35 |
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tcohen |
one of the patches introduces logaction() calls |
| 02:35 |
|
eythian |
ahh |
| 02:36 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 02:36 |
|
eythian |
I just found it |
| 02:38 |
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eythian |
tcohen: I don't know how to fix it |
| 02:39 |
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eythian |
if you remove the logaction, then you lose the logging |
| 02:39 |
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dcook |
tcohen: So the web app will be setting $ENV{MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE} with the value from the koha-instance.conf |
| 02:39 |
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dcook |
But it won't be set for CLI, right? |
| 02:39 |
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tcohen |
it will default to koha, if that's what you ask |
| 02:40 |
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eythian |
tcohen: the best option is to make Koha::SystemPreferences, I guess. |
| 02:40 |
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eythian |
but that's a bit more work than I have time for in the short term |
| 02:41 |
|
* tcohen |
likes the idea of a short term bugfix |
| 02:41 |
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eythian |
we could make a static logger that we use instead of C4::Log that doesn't use C4::Context directly |
| 02:41 |
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eythian |
so, it's just a copy-paste of C4::Log::logaction but you pass in the dbh and the userenv |
| 02:42 |
|
eythian |
that's probably the simplest without losing functionality |
| 02:42 |
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tcohen |
eythian: for now, we use set_preference by calling /svc/config/systempreferences |
| 02:42 |
|
tcohen |
which actually logs |
| 02:43 |
|
eythian |
but does it interact with the cache properly? |
| 02:43 |
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tcohen |
it just calls C4::Context->set_preference |
| 02:43 |
|
eythian |
ah, that's OK |
| 02:43 |
|
eythian |
it shouldn't be logging itself though |
| 02:43 |
|
eythian |
that's totally the wrong place to do it. |
| 02:44 |
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tcohen |
definitely! |
| 02:44 |
|
tcohen |
it should be done in Koha::SystemPreferences :-D |
| 02:44 |
|
eythian |
yes :) |
| 02:44 |
|
eythian |
but a static logger would be easy to write |
| 02:46 |
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tcohen |
heh |
| 02:47 |
|
tcohen |
quick bugfix, quick bugfix |
| 02:48 |
|
eythian |
tcohen: I'll trade you, if you can quick fix bug 13230 so I can build master, I'll patch this ;) |
| 02:48 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13230 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, NEW , Bug 12995 causes test case failures |
| 02:48 |
|
tcohen |
heh |
| 02:49 |
|
tcohen |
is the canonical solution allowed? |
| 02:53 |
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eythian |
what's that? It's probably best not to move t/Biblio.t to db_dependent :) |
| 02:55 |
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tcohen |
git rm t/Biblio.t :-P |
| 02:55 |
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eythian |
that'll do it :) |
| 02:56 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 02:56 |
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dcook |
tcohen: So in the case of the CLI... how would you go about providing a namespace? :S |
| 02:57 |
|
dcook |
Can't hard-code one in... guess a person could add a flag to the cronjob |
| 02:57 |
|
dcook |
But that seems strange |
| 03:04 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, guess there probably isn't an easy way to use Koha::Cache for a CLI script that will be run regularly |
| 03:04 |
|
dcook |
And can't be shared between different Koha instances |
| 03:06 |
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tcohen |
eythian: I assume we have a deal, right? |
| 03:06 |
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eythian |
tcohen: I'm half way through my end right now :) |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
night everyone |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
later tcohen |
| 03:11 |
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dcook |
night tcohen |
| 03:11 |
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dcook |
Hmm, maybe my homespun cache isn't necessary either |
| 03:11 |
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dcook |
I notice maybe a fraction of fraction of a second speed improvement |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
don't go caching stuff unless you're sure it's going to be an issue |
| 03:12 |
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dcook |
I would think it would be an issue but it doesn't seem to be :S |
| 03:12 |
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dcook |
One cronjob downloads all the required records |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P[…]timization#Quotes |
| 03:13 |
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dcook |
The other cronjob goes through the queue, transforms them, and adds/updates them in Koha |
| 03:13 |
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dcook |
But each record in the queue needs to look up its parent repository to know which XSLT and framework code to use |
| 03:13 |
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tcohen |
you mean each batch? |
| 03:13 |
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dcook |
I would think it'd make sense to cache the XSLT filepath and frameworkcode as you might have thousands of records using the same one, so you'd save yourself thousands of queries :S |
| 03:14 |
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eythian |
it might be the overhead is so low relative to other things that it doesn't really matter. |
| 03:14 |
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dcook |
eythian: That's what I'm thinking |
| 03:14 |
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dcook |
I'm going to try it with a higher load.. |
| 03:14 |
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tcohen |
dcook: you should cache the XSLT! |
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* tcohen |
goes to sleep |
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dcook |
tcohen: Marcel's XSLT handler caches the actual object. This just caches the filepath so I avoid the lookup. |
| 03:15 |
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eythian |
I would suggest not caching |
| 03:15 |
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eythian |
only cache when NYTProf tells you you need to |
| 03:16 |
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eythian |
get it doing the right thing first |
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dcook |
NYTProf tellins when you need to? |
| 03:16 |
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dcook |
tells* |
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eythian |
well, it's a profiler |
| 03:16 |
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dcook |
I suppose if it was telling you most of your time is spent on db calls... |
| 03:16 |
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eythian |
yeah |
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dcook |
Although it probably will be the most time anyway |
| 03:16 |
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eythian |
> Sponsored-by: The will to procrastinate |
| 03:17 |
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eythian |
(from a patch from tcohen) |
| 03:17 |
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dcook |
Hehe. Well, I have the time to devote to this now :p |
| 03:17 |
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dcook |
Ooo that does sound familiar |
| 03:17 |
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eythian |
dcook: from that wikipedia page: |
| 03:17 |
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eythian |
"The First Rule of Program Optimization: Don't do it. The Second Rule of Program Optimization (for experts only!): Don't do it yet." — Michael A. Jackson |
| 03:17 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 03:18 |
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rangi |
eythian did you see the signoffs on that one? |
| 03:18 |
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dcook |
You know... I think this is the project where I first started using NYTProf... |
| 03:19 |
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eythian |
rangi: on which one? |
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rangi |
the will to procrastinate one |
| 03:19 |
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rangi |
im pretty sure thats the one katrin and I added to |
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eythian |
naw, it's bug 13230 |
| 03:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13230 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Bug 12995 causes test case failures |
| 03:20 |
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rangi |
ahh |
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rangi |
this one |
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wahanui |
this one is cool as long as someone *wants* acknowledgement |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=12753#c4 |
| 03:21 |
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huginn |
Bug 12753: trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Warnings in t/SIP_Sip.t could be tested |
| 03:21 |
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eythian |
> fatal: could not open '.git/COMMIT_EDITMSG': Hulpbron is tijdelijk onbeschikbaar |
| 03:21 |
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eythian |
that is a concerning message from a git commit |
| 03:22 |
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eythian |
(resource currently unavailable) |
| 03:22 |
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rangi |
hmm yeah |
| 03:22 |
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dcook |
The cached version got through 7500 records about 4 seconds faster (1 min 31 seconds versus 1 min 35 seconds) |
| 03:22 |
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dcook |
Probably don't need to cache it... |
| 03:22 |
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eythian |
oh, worked the second time, may have been NFS things |
| 03:22 |
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dcook |
That 4 seconds could be due to something totally unrelated to the caching even.. |
| 03:22 |
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eythian |
dcook: looks like it :) |
| 03:23 |
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dcook |
Thanks for the good advice :) |
| 03:23 |
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dcook |
Although... |
| 03:23 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it although is mine 2.3.2 or 2.3.3 |
| 03:23 |
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dcook |
That's jsut for the transformation... not the addition to the db |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
just make it work, worry about caching later |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
especially if it's a thing that doesn't happen very much |
| 03:24 |
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dcook |
yeah, I'll comment out the caching code, and just make it work |
| 03:24 |
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dcook |
It's frequency will be... unknown |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 03:24 |
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dcook |
But probably not that frequent, true |
| 03:24 |
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dcook |
Depends on the OAI servers |
| 03:25 |
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eythian |
if you feel it's taking too long, then throw the profiler at it and see what it says. |
| 03:25 |
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dcook |
Good idea |
| 03:25 |
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dcook |
Honestly, it seems like it's performing way better than it did in the past |
| 03:25 |
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dcook |
Might be separating it out into two different cronjobs makes all the difference |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
All right. I should grab some lunch... |
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dcook |
Good evening if I'm not back before people leave work :p |
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eythian |
heh have good lunch |
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eythian |
new master packages uploading |
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* mtompset |
is running a fresh git install to recheck the wiki install instructions. :) |
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dcook |
mtompset++ |
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mtompset |
Thanks, dcook. It's also to see how it fairs on 14.04 LTS. :) |
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dcook |
:D |
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dcook |
That's what I'm running on my laptop at home now :) |
| 04:39 |
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dcook |
Not that I'm planning to install Koha... but yay! |
| 04:39 |
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dcook |
One of these days I'll probably switch the desktop to 14.04 instead of Debian 7 as well.. |
| 04:40 |
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dcook |
I can't remember why I was planning to though... |
| 04:40 |
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dcook |
Not just Plex... |
| 04:40 |
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dcook |
Also, wth, Groupon? |
| 04:40 |
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mtompset |
out of curiosity. Does anyone know how to tell if mpm-itk is properly set up? |
| 04:40 |
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dcook |
https://gnome.org/groupon/ |
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dcook |
mtompset: no clue :/ |
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mtompset |
okay. I'm taking a bunny trail to set up dh-make. :) |
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mtompset |
eythian++ # you found the bug I just encountered while trying to do a fresh install. :) |
| 05:34 |
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mtompset |
bug 12995 last comment. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12995 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , script update_totalissues.pl stops on corrupted record |
| 05:35 |
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mtompset |
eythian: What do you think the best was to fix it is? Move the test? add a condition for !$biblionumber to the test? |
| 05:35 |
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mtompset |
^was^way^ |
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mtompset |
Do you have a bug report for it yet? |
| 05:36 |
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eythian |
mtompset: yep, bug 13230 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13230 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Bug 12995 causes test case failures |
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mtompset |
I signed it off as well. Solved my 'make test'problems nicely. :) |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... it seems that Ubuntu 14.04 or us have corrected the mpm-itk installation issue, but all the other things in the troubleshooting section still apply. |
| 06:41 |
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mtompset |
But generally smooth otherwise. :) |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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* cait |
waves |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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mveron |
Good daytime #koha |
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bigbrovar |
Hello guys.. am getting this error when I try to index koha with koha-rebuild-zebra -u -f -v instance http://paste.ubuntu.com/8935750/ am running koha 3.16.04 using debian packages on debian 7 (64) |
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magnuse |
bigbrovar: what does the -u option do? |
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magnuse |
ah "Runs the process as USMARC rather than the default of MARCXML." |
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magnuse |
that should not be relevant, then |
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magnuse |
looks like a permission issue, though |
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rangi |
probably don't want to do that, but yeah not relevant |
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bigbrovar |
magnuse: yeah it does.. wondering what could be the cause of the permission error |
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rangi |
yep, looks like someone ran the rebuild at some point as root or some other user .. not using koha-rebuild-zebra |
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rangi |
what does ls -l /var/lib/koha/library/biblios |
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rangi |
tell you |
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rangi |
or ls -l /var/lib/koha/library/biblios/register/ |
| 07:57 |
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bigbrovar |
rangi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8935885/ |
| 07:57 |
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bigbrovar |
strange that am the only one with access to the server and I only used koha-rebuild-zebra |
| 07:58 |
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rangi |
someone has mucked something up, looks like that is owned by a user that no longer exists |
| 08:00 |
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bigbrovar |
hmmm I guess that happened when I removed a koha instance and created another one with the same name |
| 08:00 |
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bigbrovar |
guess some directories where never removed |
| 08:01 |
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bigbrovar |
rangi: any idea best way to proceed? |
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rangi |
chown -R username /var/lib/koha/library |
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rangi |
where username is probably library-koha |
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rangi |
cat /etc/passwd to check |
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rangi |
you might need to do that for /var/spool/koha/library and the /var/log/koha/library dirs too |
| 08:04 |
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bigbrovar |
I will do that right a way .. thanks rangi |
| 08:04 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
| 08:16 |
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* ashimema |
is fairly shocked at the trademark woes gnome is currently going through :( |
| 08:17 |
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ashimema |
rangi++ |
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magnuse |
yeah, poor gnome |
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magnuse |
@karma |
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huginn |
magnuse: Highest karma: "cait" (162), "gmcharlt" (151), and "oleonard" (112). Lowest karma: "^" (-9), "-" (-9), and "ie" (-7). You (magnuse) are ranked 11 out of 307. |
| 08:18 |
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rangi |
yeah theres no fun in dealing with trademark stuff, even when you win it takes years |
| 08:20 |
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ashimema |
it's just unbelievable.. what makes these companies think it's ok to do this! |
| 08:20 |
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ashimema |
what a waste |
| 08:21 |
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rangi |
bullies |
| 08:21 |
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rangi |
and also the inability to backdown/admit they were wrong |
| 08:22 |
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rangi |
it's a massive problem in publicly traded corporations/companies |
| 08:22 |
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rangi |
anything that might drop the share price, like admitting you screwed up |
| 08:23 |
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rangi |
they wont do |
| 08:23 |
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ashimema |
it's the sceond point i'm most disturbed by.. I can sort of understand not realising.. (though Gnome is a big enough project out there that really there's no excuse for that)... but to then plain ignore the fact when it's brought to their attention. |
| 08:23 |
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ashimema |
$80k gnome say they need to raise to deal with it.. that money culd be far better spent on improving softwar2 |
| 08:24 |
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rangi |
yeah the parallels with what happened with koha in nz are quite striking |
| 08:24 |
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rangi |
knowing they are in the wrong, stubbornly refusing to back down anyway |
| 08:24 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 08:25 |
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rangi |
id think its fairly open and shut for gnome |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
but it still costs a crapton |
| 08:26 |
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ashimema |
one can hope |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
to just file the papers |
| 08:27 |
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rangi |
thats what they bank on, you can be right, but if you cant afford to play the game, it doesnt matter |
| 08:27 |
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rangi |
the system is broken |
| 08:29 |
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magnuse |
how hard can it be to google for "gnome" before you settle on is as a name... |
| 08:30 |
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ashimema |
http://www.tickld.com/x/capita[…]accurate-it-hurts |
| 08:31 |
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ashimema |
no ciat today? |
| 08:31 |
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ashimema |
no cait today? |
| 08:31 |
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ashimema |
even |
| 08:34 |
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magnuse |
i thought she said she was going to be away yesterday |
| 08:34 |
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magnuse |
but maybe it was today? |
| 08:40 |
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rangi |
she was on earlier |
| 08:41 |
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ashimema |
sure she'll appear at some point.. she can't help herself |
| 08:47 |
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rangi |
bet if you test bug 12567 she will show up |
| 08:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12567 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Catalog Statistitics wizard's publication year doesn't work for MARC21 |
| 08:48 |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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magnuse |
worth a try... :-) |
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magnuse |
wb cait |
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magnuse |
we missed you! |
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ashimema |
hehe.. |
| 09:05 |
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ashimema |
it worked! |
| 09:05 |
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ashimema |
bug 12567 |
| 09:05 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12567 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Catalog Statistitics wizard's publication year doesn't work for MARC21 |
| 09:05 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 09:05 |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
did i mess up? |
| 09:06 |
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ashimema |
08:47 <rangi> bet if you test bug 12567 she will show up |
| 09:06 |
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ashimema |
08:47 <huginn> Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12567 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Catalog Statistitics wizard's publication year doesn't work for MARC21 |
| 09:06 |
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huginn |
Bug 12567: normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Catalog Statistitics wizard's publication year doesn't work for MARC21 |
| 09:06 |
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ashimema |
I signed off.. you turned up ;) |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
oh |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
hope you tested thoroughly! |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
the code is really not easy to read there :( |
| 09:06 |
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ashimema |
I tested as well I could.. against a big marc21 dataset and a fairly tiny unimarc setup... |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
sounds good .) |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
at least it shoudl work better than before for marc21 (becaus not at all before ) :) |
| 09:07 |
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ashimema |
would be use full to get someone more familiar with unmarc to verify it still works for that case too.. as I wasn't 100% what I was looking at ;) |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
and sorry for the tabs... the whole file is tabbed, it irritated my editor and forgot to clean up |
| 09:07 |
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ashimema |
Yeah.. I spotted that.. |
| 09:08 |
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ashimema |
I was tempted to do a mass replace of tabs |
| 09:08 |
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cait |
the whole problem is caused by different defautl mappings for the publication year |
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cait |
to different database fields |
| 09:08 |
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cait |
we cope with that in a lot of places |
| 09:08 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 09:08 |
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* ashimema |
wants to :%s/^I/ /g to that whole file |
| 09:11 |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
i fully understand |
| 09:11 |
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cait |
it took me a while yesterday to end upwith an sql query that had no publicationyears showing up |
| 09:34 |
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paxed |
question: do others have AACR2 punctuatiation showing up in facets? (eg. in Authors or Series) |
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cait |
hm maybe check some catalogs? not sure |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
which version are you looking at? |
| 09:36 |
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paxed |
for example: https://oiva.vaarakirjastot.fi[…]c&expand=au#au_id |
| 09:37 |
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paxed |
just did a quick hack to condense those authors by removing the ',' or '.' at the end there. |
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cait |
hm 3.16.4 |
| 09:41 |
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cait |
would be interesting to see it if appeared on master too |
| 09:42 |
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cait |
i think our data doesn't do isbd punctuation consistently, so ti would not show up |
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cait |
ashimema: did you just miss me or did you want something? :) |
| 09:43 |
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ashimema |
just missed you ;) |
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magnuse |
we all did |
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cait |
awwww |
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cait |
ashimema: if you want to keep me around.... ther are more patches from me waiting for qa ;) |
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ashimema |
haha.. |
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magnuse |
@later tell tcohen what kind of error do you get when you try to run the tests in the NL-patch? |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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mveron |
Hi again #koha |
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mveron |
@wunder Allschwil |
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huginn |
mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 10.7°C (10:56 AM CET on November 11, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (10:50 AM CET on November 11, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
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tcohen |
morning |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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cait |
morning tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13113 [QA Followup] - Fix unit test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c5b37f7ffc711da2e> / Bug 13113 - Prevent juvenile/children from reserving ageRestricted material <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b0913833a6895fe66> / Bug 13106 - Encapsulate Circulation::GetAgeRestriction() and modify it to check borro... <htt |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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ashimema |
hey tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
hi ashimema |
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ashimema |
hi oleanoard |
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ashimema |
ack.. can't type today |
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ashimema |
hows it going |
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* oleonard |
spent most of yesterday in meetings and is hoping to, you know, work today. |
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magnuse |
tcohen: i'll be around for 1,5 hours more, if you have time to look at bug 11401 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Add support for Norwegian national library card |
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tcohen |
magnuse: unit tests are failing on my box |
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tcohen |
need to re-apply and re-test to paste the error |
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tcohen |
give me some minutes |
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magnuse |
cool |
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francharb |
good morning all |
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blou |
pouet |
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blou |
hi #koha |
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tcohen |
hi blou |
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blou |
this morning, our whole team comes to discover #koha |
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tcohen |
magnuse: does it run well for you? (the unit tests) |
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magnuse |
blou: cool! |
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blou |
hi tcohen |
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oleonard |
Welcome all |
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jeremie |
hi ! |
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blou |
expect many newbies questions :) |
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magnuse |
tcohen: yeah, on a pristine debian 7.6, i get a nice "skipped because of a missing module" |
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oleonard |
Newbie questions are always welcome |
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blou |
we'll be six, learning to QA. If you got a long forgotten bug you'd like someone to look at, now's your chance. Fresh blood... |
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blou |
QA->signoff |
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pastebot |
"magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "$ sudo koha-shell -c "prove t/NorwegianPatronDB.t" kohadev" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/279 |
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magnuse |
^ tcohen |
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magnuse |
what do you get? |
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nengard |
morning all |
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magnuse |
hiya nengard |
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nengard |
:) |
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cait |
jeremie++ thx for signing off my bug :) |
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jeremie |
was my first ! |
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cait |
cool .) |
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cait |
we always need more hands and testers |
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tcohen |
magnuse: try installing libsoap-lite-perl |
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tcohen |
because that's how it fails |
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magnuse |
jeremie++ |
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ashimema |
awesome.. jeremie++ |
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magnuse |
tcohen: it fails when you have all the required modules? |
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tcohen |
magnuse: the SOAP::Lite calls are not correctly mocked |
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tcohen |
so it tries to actually connect |
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magnuse |
gah! |
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magnuse |
i see a problem now |
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pastebot |
"magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tcohen: like this?" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/280 |
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tcohen |
exactly |
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oleonard |
nengard: I'm not seeing a problem with patron letter browse |
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oleonard |
nengard: However, I'm surprised to see that when I do a patron letter browse search the results are ordered by card number. I would think ordering by name would be what librarians would expect |
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cait |
jeremie: just in case noone has warned you yt - beware of our bots :) wahanui and huginn can be a bit confusing for new people |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
:) |
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cait |
oleonard: thx for the patch :) |
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cait |
would someone be interested in a bugzilla clean-up day after release? |
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oleonard |
I think that's a good idea cait |
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cait |
looking through more of the old bugs and verify if they still exist, add more info, test plans etc? |
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magnuse |
sounds good! |
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cait |
cool |
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magnuse |
bugzilla clean-up party! |
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cait |
i will add a reminder to my todo list |
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magnuse |
bcup? |
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cait |
we normally close the pushed stuff automatically after release - with a batch edit -but there will be enough that can't be automatically done.... most of it |
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magnuse |
why can't it be done automatically? |
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nengard |
oleonard, i'll try again |
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cait |
magnuse: all the open ones that are not 'pushed... ' :) |
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nengard |
oleonard i posted a video -- very strange |
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nengard |
I did clear the cache |
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magnuse |
cait: ah yes, we might not want to close those ;-) |
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cait |
...unless they are done |
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tcohen |
ISBD/AACR2 punctuation on MARC records is a design error |
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cait |
hm somene around who could help me set up sip? |
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cait |
standard dev install... |
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jcamins |
tcohen: agreed. |
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cait |
jcamins: you maybe? |
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cait |
when i try to connect to localhost using telnet localhost 8023 i get "Connectionclosed by foreign host" |
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cait |
i think i am missing something in my configuration that i forgot to document |
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cait |
hm i thimk i got it |
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jcamins |
cait: nooooooooo!!!! Not SIP! |
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jcamins |
Did you get it working? |
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cait |
it won't let me in |
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cait |
i am trying to authenticate but only get a 940 back |
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cait |
oooh |
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cait |
it worked ow :) |
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cait |
jcamins: nice - def got it working now :) |
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cait |
it answered my patron info thing. |
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nengard |
hey all, was there a bug in 3.16 where setting the renewal due date didn't work? |
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nengard |
I see the problem in 3.16 but not master |
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nengard |
I'm wondering what bug/patch fixed it |
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tcohen |
jcamins: thanks |
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jeremie |
is jonathan here ? i've a question about the bug #12905 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12905 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Deleting parent fund will orphan child funds, leaving them un-editable. |
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oleonard |
jeremie: Jonathan is Joubu here |
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jeremie |
okay thanks |
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oleonard |
irc regulars? |
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wahanui |
i guess irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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oleonard |
Joubu should be on that list ;) |
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cait |
not sure if he is around today |
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cait |
and time to leave for me :) bye all |
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oleonard |
Some of the people on that list should have their "regulars" status revoked |
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oleonard |
@seen sekjal |
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huginn |
oleonard: sekjal was last seen in #koha 8 weeks, 4 days, 16 hours, 45 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <sekjal> :) |
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oleonard |
@seen hdl |
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huginn |
oleonard: hdl was last seen in #koha 1 year, 45 weeks, 3 days, 6 hours, 58 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <hdl> bye |
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ashimema |
haha.. |
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ashimema |
hdl been gone for over a year.. |
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ashimema |
think that justifies removal ;) |
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oleonard |
Maybe we should have a "sorely missed" section to complement the "regulars" section |
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oleonard |
If anyone has a nice big monitor and some IE VMs please test Bug 13017 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13017 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Login page image replacement technique fails when browser width exceeds 2000 pixels |
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cait |
hi again :) |
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jeremie |
is Kyle here ? I've got some questions about bug #13124 . The export just gives me some zeroes... |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13124 minor, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Record titles with parentheses causing label weirdness |
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cait |
jeremie: kyle is khall_away |
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cait |
... or khall - guess he is not around currently |
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jeremie |
ok ;/ thx :) |
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tcohen |
oleonard: could you take a look at 9214? it is not applying cleanly |
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oleonard |
Sure |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
tcohen: stlil busy? |
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tcohen |
cait: why? |
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cait |
just asking :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12988: Update table footer with the visible rows - budgets <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8630d631558fb9bf7> / Bug 13203: Plugin housekeeping: UNIMARC field 123i, 123j, 210c <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ad77b1af773602e2> / Bug 7673: DBRev 3.17.00.053 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]?p=koha.git;a=com |
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tcohen |
oleonard: the css patch for 10632 also fails |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Is it the compiled CSS which causes the problem? |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Because the compiled CSS will NEVER merge properly |
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tcohen |
datatables.css |
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oleonard |
Okay I'll look |
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tcohen |
oleonard++ |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12989: Fix JS error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d06db11413359967> / Bug 12989: Update table footer with the visible rows - acqui-home <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]79490eef8289e5ef6> / Bug 12984: Improvement of the funds list view - acqui home <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ha.git;a=commitdi |
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oleonard |
tcohen: I rebased the patches on Bug 9214 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9214 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Show damaged status in the OPAC for items which are not for loan |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Why are the OPAC DataTables files touched at all by Bug 10632? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC |
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oleonard |
The only other changes to the OPAC are made to bootstrap/en/includes/item-status.inc |
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tcohen |
oleonard: I don't know, it seems someething showed wrong |
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tcohen |
oleonard: http://snag.gy/26uw5.jpg |
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cait |
tcohen: did you push the changes from jonathan yet? |
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cait |
maybe owen has an older master |
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tcohen |
which ones? |
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cait |
i think the footer thing for databales maybe |
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tcohen |
but that was on the staff interface |
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tcohen |
and this is bootstrap |
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cait |
ah right |
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tcohen |
oleonard: the conflicting patch for 10632 is yours! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12258 [Template follow-up] Datatable in Patrons Account Fines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4116d91a24fb465ff> / Bug 12258 Adds Datatables to the Fines->Account page of patrons (members/boraccount... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4dec33c7d5550f295> / Bug 9214 [Compiled CSS] Show damaged status in the OPAC |
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* cait |
does a little happy dance for all the nice things going in |
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oleonard |
Yeah lots of nice new stuff in this release |
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cait |
yeah :)hopefully no new bugs...too :) |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Sorry, I got my bug numbers mixed up. I meant Bug 10860. It makes changes to datatables.css and datatables.js in the OPAC and I'm not sure why |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10860 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , On-site checkouts (was In-House Use) |
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tcohen |
oleonard: oh |
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tcohen |
let me know if it introduced any bug |
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cait |
tcohen++ |
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cait |
oleonard: i think i have a clue on this |
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cait |
it included a prog opac file |
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cait |
that kyle removed |
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cait |
for reintrocing the change to bootstrap later |
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cait |
but i think he didn't remove the files that were opac but not prog |
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cait |
sorry that we messed up there |
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cait |
we should file a bug for jonathan about fixing the opac display |
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cait |
i will see to it now |
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Starting build #573 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_Docs build #573: SUCCESS in 2 min 57 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/573/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Rotating Collections documentation |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: add link to pref to rotating collection |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: add rotating collections permission |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: update patron search section |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: add credit to rotating collections |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: move rotating collections in to catalog tools |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8218: qa followup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5ac50580375f3e1e4> / Bug 8218: Follow-up for some small typos <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]367f4338132f4740a> / Bug 8218 : Add a maintenance script to sanitize biblio records <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]99a8a69972a6d4b2a |
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cait |
bug 13234 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13234 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Make on-site checkouts visible in OPAC |
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oleonard |
I'm even more confused now cait |
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cait |
@later tell Joubu could you take a lok at bug 13234? |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
oleonard: i am sorry :( |
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oleonard |
Make on-site checkouts visible where? |
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cait |
in the patron account i think |
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cait |
i am looking for the original patch |
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cait |
hm changes to bootstrap datatalbes... i think i understand the confusion |
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cait |
oleonard: the changes weren't in the original patch it seems |
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cait |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=32579 |
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cait |
it looks like kyle moved them to bootstrap maybe, but then stopped at the tt file? |
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cait |
.../prog/en/modules/opac-readingrecord.tt |
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oleonard |
I see in an obsoleted patch changes to the checkout history page in the prog OPAC |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
yeah i think the one i linked above could be the one |
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cait |
it also included changes to item-status.inc and datatables.css for prog |
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cait |
maybe jonathan can take a look tomorrow |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Rebased patch attached to Bug 10632 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC |
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tcohen |
just in time oleonard, was about to leave |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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* tcohen |
goes testing-mode |
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cait |
have a nice evening tcohen :) |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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oleonard |
I suspect the fix for 13234 will require the return of some of the CSS I deleted in 10632. *sigh* |
| 19:06 |
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cait |
bug 10623 |
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wahanui |
bug 10623 is, like, about items which are lost and checked out at the same time? Long overdue |
| 19:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10623 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, item lost says 'checked out' |
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cait |
oleonard: but probably better this way - then the feature will be introduced at once, not in bits :) |
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cait |
thx for fixing |
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cait |
gmcharlt: around? |
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oleonard |
So, patron search in the staff client went from this (pre-bug 10153) http://www.screencast.com/t/t0XkqsSX |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10153 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Patron header search form is too wide |
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oleonard |
...to this: http://www.screencast.com/t/LnVgH2nV |
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oleonard |
...and now it looks like this: http://www.screencast.com/t/9Cn8B0VKm6q (following Bug 9811) |
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cait |
i like 2 |
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oleonard |
I'm wondering now if the change to the layout in Bug 9811 was due to that patch having been a long time in development |
| 19:53 |
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cait |
it would be my guess yes |
| 19:54 |
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oleonard |
Okay I'll submit a patch if it's not going to make anyone mad ;) |
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cait |
i don't htinmk so - i will say i like the idea |
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oleonard |
See y'all later |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10632 [Follow-up] Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ee8ae50d7c85e1ab> / Bug 10632 - Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]47ef5997d011e3390> |
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Project Koha_Master_D7 build #225: UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/225/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 10632 - Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10632 [Follow-up] Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC |
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hi |
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wahanui |
bidet, eythian |
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cait |
hm ok |
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cait |
changing the mapping for 942$c to not be itemtypes but another authorized value |
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cait |
good or bad? |
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dcook__ |
Probably bad |
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dcook__ |
As it'll be indexed as an item type |
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cait |
that#s my thought |
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dcook |
I suppose it wouldn't be catastrophically bad, but those values will show up in the item type facet at least |
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cait |
yeah |
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dcook |
I suppose that could actually be interesting.. |
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dcook |
I'm not sure where else the 942$c really gets used other than indexing... |
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cait |
i am worried about something we do for holds now |
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cait |
dcook: it ependson item-level_itypes |
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cait |
i wonder if the descriptions show up in the facets if you use 2 different mappings |
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dcook |
Mmm, good one |
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cait |
this is because of bug 11045 |
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dcook |
2 different mappings?? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11045 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Wrong query in C4/Biblios.pm : join between biblioitems.itemtypes and itemtypes table |
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cait |
yeah - one mapped to itypes and one to an authorized value it appars |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_Master_D7 build #226: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/226/ |
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dcook |
Has anyone played around with "Google Refine" at all? |
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dcook |
Don't know if it's really up any of our alleys as we'd probably just write a script rather than use a GUI, but it's kind of interesting |
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eythian |
hmm |
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eythian |
I think I had a look at it once |
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eythian |
I think it looked like a nice idea, but not directly useful for me |
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dcook |
Yeah, that's my thought as well |
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dcook |
There's only been one time in the recent past where I was working on data where I'd want to use a GUI |
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dcook |
And that was such a mess that I don't think I could fix it |
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dcook |
Some proprietary system screwed up a bunch of library data to the point where only the librarian can really fix it now |
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dcook |
I could try but I'd probably be subbing in the wrong characters for the problematic characters |
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dcook |
:/ |
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dcook |
But that's why people employ students, right? :p |
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dcook |
manual data entry and all that |
