IRC log for #koha, 2014-11-10

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00:46 eythian http://worldmapswithout.nz/
00:48 dcook I love how they have Tasmania on some but still no NZ
00:50 dcook Hehe
00:50 dcook My favourite is the one with TWO New Zealands
00:50 eythian yeah :)
00:51 dcook Oh, eythian. You always know how to bring the laughs.
00:51 dcook I feel better already.
00:52 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M[…]us_Party#Policies <-- I guess these guys kept up at least one campaign promise (the second one) even though they didn't make it into government.
00:54 dcook hehe
01:03 eythian @wunder nzwn
01:03 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (1:30 PM NZDT on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
01:03 eythian papa: I guess I brought some of the warm back from Brisbane.
01:04 wizzyrea 21!
01:04 * wizzyrea runs for the door
01:04 eythian wizzyrea lies, she didn't even move.
01:04 wizzyrea ...yes
01:04 wizzyrea YET.
01:04 wizzyrea >.>
01:04 wizzyrea actually I have things that need doing that can't be done whilst frolicking in the sun.
03:12 eythian http://youtu.be/SdmDb8ozcXc <-- LEGO Particle Accelerator
03:14 cjh :D
03:17 wizzyrea haha that's adorable
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04:06 dcook Now where's that bug I was commenting on earlier..
04:11 eythian over there -->
04:18 dcook You see... it's funny you say that
04:18 dcook Because the chat window is on my left monitor
04:18 dcook And I just opened the bug report on my right monitor
04:18 dcook I don't think there are any hidden cameras behind me..
04:19 dcook Well, I suppose they wouldn't be called hidden if they were so easy to find
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05:15 * dcook looks for that joindin link that eythian posted earlier..
05:16 dcook Ah, easy as
05:16 * eythian points to /lastlog
05:16 dcook Ooo, I was interested to see Hugh's full disk encryption one as well..
05:16 dcook Do you know where they plan to host the video?
05:17 eythian youtube, iinet (I think), and I'm going to upload them to archive.org when they're all ready.
05:17 eythian They were uploading them on the last day, so you may be able to find some now.
05:17 dcook Hmm
05:18 dcook Nothing jumping out at the moment. Will have to do a second try..\
05:18 eythian there's too many OSDCs now.
05:19 dcook Yep
05:19 dcook Let's see... filters...
05:19 dcook Ooo OSDC Australia channel...
05:19 dcook That might do it
05:20 dcook Yarp. I see at least a few
05:20 dcook Yay! Jacinta's is there!
05:20 dcook Hmm, those Perl Training folk really like their hats :p
05:20 dcook Ah, there you are too
05:21 eythian urlme the channel, my google is failing me
05:21 dcook https://www.youtube.com/user/osdc14
05:21 dcook Hmm, now whether to watch videos or try to build this object class..
05:21 eythian thanks
05:22 dcook np
05:22 eythian dual monitors :)
05:22 dcook But then how will I listen to my music? :p
05:22 dcook There's a sci fi movie for that I think..
05:22 dcook Listening to presentations and music while coding and watching the video
05:22 dcook I'm sure it's possible :p
05:23 eythian I can't do it :)
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05:24 dcook I'll save the videos for the morning :)
05:24 dcook Excited to watch them though!
05:25 dcook Are we still using Class::Accessor in Koha?
05:29 eythian I am, yeah
05:30 dcook Cool. I hadn't noticed it in a little while, but I'll keep using it as well then
05:31 dcook Hmm, bodily metaphors break down a bit at some point
05:32 dcook I think about "ingesting" records, "digesting" records, but the logical progression just isn't very pleasant
05:32 eythian haha
05:34 dcook Hmm, I don't know if it's worth making a module for this behaviour
05:35 dcook But I definitely need a sub...
05:35 dcook Are we avoiding defining subs in .pl scripts?
05:35 eythian I'm not sure, but that rings a bell. They are problematic with plack for reasons I don't fully understand.
05:36 dcook Hmm, maybe not a bad idea to use a module then
05:36 eythian it also forces you to keep as much logic out of the .pl as you can
05:36 eythian ideally, it'd only be controlling the data going to the template.
05:36 dcook Well, in this case it's not even going to a template
05:37 dcook There's a cronjob to download records via OAI
05:37 dcook Then another one which transforms them via XSLT then adds/updates them in Koha
05:37 dcook The download is pretty straight forwardd, but the transforming is borderline
05:37 dcook Actually maybe Marcel's XSLT handler is enough..
05:37 dcook I thought that I'd have to write something extra but now I don't remember why
05:38 eythian oh right. Well, still the same idea, it should just be transforming the data for display.
05:38 eythian display/export/whatever
05:38 dcook Yeah
05:38 dcook I need the sandwich filling
05:38 dcook AddBiblio and ModBiblio are my end points
05:39 dcook Well, that's not true..
05:39 dcook I guess I need to update my oai tables to mark them as processed afterward
05:39 dcook Ahh right
05:39 dcook I need a sub because I'll be calling the transformation code a few times in different circumstances
05:40 dcook Although I suppose I could actually get around that by being smarter with the logic
05:42 dcook Meh, might just write it then can revise later
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07:42 reiveune hello
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07:56 alex_a bonjour
07:56 wahanui salut, alex_a
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08:12 marcelr hi #koha
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08:17 drojf good morning #koha
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08:18 gaetan_B hello
08:18 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B
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08:33 * magnuse waves
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08:35 drojf hi magnuse
08:40 marcelr hi drojf magnuse
08:40 drojf hi marcelr
08:41 marcelr long time no see?
08:41 magnuse hiya marcelr and drojf
08:42 drojf true
08:42 magnuse yay for http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.20 - now a ll we need is a 3.16.x maint!
08:43 cait hi all
08:43 cait and bye all :) off work today :)
08:45 magnuse guten morgen cait - have fun!
08:45 drojf hi cait
08:46 marcelr hi cait
08:48 cait :)
08:48 cait getting a new kitchen this week! *squee*
08:49 drojf woohoo
08:50 magnuse yay!
08:51 drojf what happened to the position of live-cd manager? *hides*
08:56 magnuse drojf: voluteer for it if you like? ;-)
09:03 cait ok, timeto leave :)
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09:25 magnuse kia ora Viktor
09:26 Viktor Kia ora magnuse!
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10:37 * magnuse looks quizzically at bug 11211
10:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
10:37 magnuse cait: can you remember if you got the tests in t/db_dependent/Calendar.t and t/db_dependent/Holidays.t to run?
10:38 cait on master?
10:38 cait aah
10:38 magnuse no, when testing 11211
10:38 cait magnuse: i am not sure, it's normally one of the first things I do - i think theymight have run ok, but not sure
10:39 magnuse i get this: Undefined subroutine &main::ModRepeatingEvent called at t/db_dependent/Calendar.t line 22.
10:39 magnuse which seems weird
10:40 Joubu magnuse: I suspect a use missing in the test file
10:40 magnuse it has "use C4::Calendar;"
10:40 cait Joubu++ thx
10:41 cait magnuse: hm ormaybe a dependency?
10:42 Joubu magnuse: I don't get this error
10:43 Joubu 11211 on top of master
10:43 Joubu t/db_dependent/Calendar.t .. ok
10:43 Joubu All tests successful.
10:43 Joubu (same for t/db_dependent/Holidays.t)
10:44 magnuse gah!
10:44 magnuse i'm on a gitified setup, maybe that is doing it...
10:46 magnuse when i run this, Calendar.t is the only one that fails: $ sudo koha-shell -c "prove t/db_dependent/C*.t" kohadev
10:47 magnuse the script that lets you edit the calendar, calendar.pl seems to work as it should
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12:04 ashimema @later tell eythian thanks for looking at the SIP bug so quickly when you got back :)
12:04 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
12:06 ashimema anyone here happen to know if google books changed their api recently..
12:07 ashimema we're suddenly finding book jackets not working well in one of our apps.
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12:55 tcohen morning!
12:55 tcohen @later tell eythian, thanks!
12:55 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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12:55 tcohen eythian++
12:55 marcelr hi tcohen
12:56 marcelr tcohen++ #for another RM term..
12:56 oleonard Hi #koha
12:59 tcohen crazy_people++
12:59 magnuse lol
12:59 * magnuse hopes more people will sign up for bug wrangling
13:01 drojf when are we going to vote?
13:01 tcohen cait has been doing a lot
13:04 magnuse the only role missing is 3.16.x rmaint?
13:04 magnuse next community meeting would probably be ok for voting?
13:04 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_19_November_2014
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13:15 magnuse there, i added voting to the agenda http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ember_2014#Agenda
13:16 tcohen magnuse++
13:17 drojf too early for me to know about bug wrangling ;)
13:19 drojf but i a still allowed to to that without a title, right ;)
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13:20 tcohen oleonard: can u help me figure where to put a note on the sample XSL files that could be used during Z/SRU import?
13:20 oleonard I don't understand
13:21 tcohen i'm adding some .xsl files on bug 6681
13:21 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6681 major, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Signed Off , When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links and items also get imported
13:21 tcohen and I need to document (on the UI) that they are available as examples for usage
13:21 tcohen should I just put it on the help section?
13:22 oleonard That would certainly be the right place to start
13:23 tcohen something like "You can use 'Del952.xsl, Del9LinksExcept952.xsl' if you want to delete attached items and $9 links"
13:24 oleonard Sorry I don't understand the bug well enough to comment right now
13:25 Joubu magnuse: did you see 8133 depends on 11211?
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13:46 magnuse drojf: sure you can wrangle without a title, but having 20 wranglers makes us look rock solid ;-)
13:46 * oleonard prints "Rockin' Wranglers" t-shirts for everyone
13:47 magnuse Joubu: yup, i get the conflict when i apply 8133 on top of 11211
13:47 drojf oh a t-shirt :O
13:47 ashimema t-shirts sound good :)
13:48 tcohen i want one!
13:54 tcohen marcelr, oleonard: http://snag.gy/mr5AD.jpg
13:55 marcelr tcohen: looks good to me
13:55 tcohen does it look close to ok?
13:55 tcohen ok
13:55 tcohen thanks :-D
13:57 ashimema 'When retrieving records from external targets you may wish to automate some changes/fixes to those records. XSLT's allow you to achieved this; Koha ships with some sample XSLT files ready for use:'
13:58 ashimema You can already make changes to the records manually can you not..?
13:58 ashimema Import, takes you back to editor where you can change stuff.. the xslt's just automate some common modifications for you right?
13:59 tcohen ashimema: you're right
13:59 ashimema In which case... my above amendments may prove slightly more explanatory.. oleonard care to comment as another native speaker?
13:59 ashimema :)
13:59 * marcelr is no native speaker luckily :)
13:59 marcelr at least of english..
14:00 oleonard "When retrieving records from external targets you may wish to automate some changes to those records. XSLT's allow you to do this. Koha ships with some sample XSLT files ready for use."
14:00 oleonard I would take out the "/fixes" and replace "achieve" with "do"
14:01 ashimema :).. I'de go with oleonards.. thanks for chipping in :)
14:01 marcelr +1
14:01 tcohen +1
14:02 oleonard tcohen: I'm concerned about the difficulty of knowing what to enter in that "XSLT File(s)" field in the Z39.50 server form
14:02 tcohen me too
14:02 oleonard If it always looks in the same place, can we pull a list of existing files and make that a multi-select?
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14:03 tcohen oleonard: i think we need some sort of XSLT registry
14:03 tcohen probably on the DB
14:03 tcohen (instead of the filesystem)
14:04 tcohen but i'm not sure we can have it for the release
14:04 oleonard Would a check of the filesystem be an acceptable solution in the interim?
14:05 * oleonard says this without knowing how difficult it is to actually implement
14:07 tcohen problem is we would be changing the current functionality, in which you can put whatever you want
14:08 tcohen (maybe outside koha's templates directory
14:08 oleonard I see
14:08 ashimema Why not store the XSLT's themselves in the database.. like OPACUserCSS and similar sysprefs..
14:09 marcelr yes, it is interesting
14:09 ashimema perhaps in their own table though.. as you'de expect there to be any number of XSLT's present
14:09 marcelr bug 12973
14:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Allow passing code to XSLT_Handler instead of filename
14:09 marcelr the code can come from a table
14:09 marcelr can->could
14:09 ashimema it's basically just a key/value at that point
14:09 ashimema cool
14:12 oleonard I'm curious how many of you run your Koha sites over SSL?
14:13 marcelr i am in the process of going to ssl
14:13 marcelr just curious about performance issues
14:14 tcohen oleonard: we do here
14:14 tcohen the 46 instances behind a reverse proxy
14:15 tcohen (staff only for now)
14:16 tcohen ashimema: not only key/value, I'd add information on what it expects and what its output would be
14:16 tcohen so we know in which context the XSLT should be offered for use
14:17 ashimema sounds good to me tcohen.
14:17 ashimema oleanard,marcelr.. all our sites run behind ssl (https)
14:17 tcohen w've just discussed that with bgkriegel on the parking lot =D
14:17 ashimema performance is a non-issue with it these days, computer are plain good at encryption ;)
14:18 ashimema only issue outstnading I know of is mixed content warning on google book jackets..
14:18 ashimema otherwise I think everything works as expected..
14:19 ashimema for google book jackets.. I don't think there is any solution without breaking their api terms and conditions (i.e. passing their data through a proxy or caching is not allowed I believe)
14:19 ashimema tcohen.. you reverse proxy.. intersting
14:19 tcohen we have a wildcard SSL certificate
14:20 tcohen and use nginx in front of our stock koha-common setup
14:20 tcohen ah, I recall, the koha<->proxy connexion uses a self-signed SSL certificate too
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14:24 marcelr see you later
14:33 Joubu Does someone have the same problem as oleonard on checkin (bug 13226)?
14:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13226 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference
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15:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13211: DBRev 3.17.00.051 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9ac438e604d59b674> / Bug 13211: (followup) remove 'masthead' reference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb152b35efbedbc9f> / Bug 13211: Added Google Indic Transliteration as a System Preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif
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15:20 tcohen @later tell magnuse please contact me to check some things for the NL bug
15:20 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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15:57 paul_p hello #koha
15:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12448: (RM followup) fix bug number in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee8d7110aaa824cfa> / Bug 12986: Upgrade the DataTables jQuery plugin to the latest version (1.10.2) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4445010115fac329> / Bug 9043: DBRev 3.17.00.052 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
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16:47 Joubu See you #koha
16:47 Joubu for info, it's bank holiday in France tomorrow ;)
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17:11 gaetan_B bye!
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17:30 cait magnuse++
17:31 * cait waves
17:31 druthb cait!
17:32 cait druthb!
17:32 druthb :)
17:46 oleonard Yay, 3-hour budget meeting! Is over.
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17:47 cait oh wow
17:47 * cait hands the cookie jar to oleonard
17:49 druthb cookie!
17:49 * cait instructs oleonard to share with druthb
17:49 bag hola
17:49 oleonard But cait this jar is empty (now)
17:49 * druthb pouts.
17:49 * cait gets another one
17:49 cait hola bag
17:50 bag heya cait
17:50 druthb bag!  oleonard ate all the cookies!
17:52 * cait hands druthb her own cookie jar
17:52 * druthb takes it, offers some around to others.
17:52 druthb wahanui:  botsnack cookie
17:52 wahanui :)
18:06 nengard git help please :)
18:06 nengard how do I solve this:
18:06 nengard previous rebase directory /Users/nengard/manual/.git/rebase-apply still exists but mbox given.
18:08 bag git rebase --abort
18:08 bag or you can just git reset --hard HEAD
18:08 bag hmm..  something in there with an --abort ;)
18:08 nengard yup - all better :)
18:09 bag sweet
18:10 bag welcome back mario
18:10 mario thanks bag
18:12 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:12 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (7:00 PM CET on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
18:12 cait it's coooold!
18:16 bag @weather 93102
18:16 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 19.3°C (10:16 AM PST on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
18:16 bag cold here too cait
18:16 bag I had to wear a sweater today
18:16 cait scarf!
18:25 tcohen later!
18:26 magnuse @wunder boo
18:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 PM CET on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
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18:56 learn_koha hi everyone,
18:56 wahanui hi everyone, is there anyone here who might be able to shed some light on the Koha problem I'm having?
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18:57 learn_koha who knows how i can mangae staff accounts (add new or edit) in koha site ?
18:57 cait you add a patron and then use more > permissions to give them the rights to use modules, log into the staff acount
18:57 talljoy Once you've added a new patron, you go to permissions
18:57 talljoy jinx cait
18:58 bag manual?
18:58 wahanui manual is, like, at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
18:58 cait :)
18:58 cait talljoy++ nice article :)
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18:58 talljoy my blog?
18:58 talljoy already posted?  yay!
18:58 talljoy thanks cait.
18:59 learn_koha where is "permissions"?
19:00 talljoy upper right side of the patron detail screen.
19:00 oleonard learn_koha: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]npermissions.html
19:00 rangi morning
19:00 talljoy unless you do not have permissions to set other staff permissions learn_koha
19:00 oleonard Hi rangi
19:00 talljoy hola rangi
19:01 learn_koha ah ha ~  thanks to oleonard and talljoy !
19:02 talljoy yw!
19:02 oleonard "All staff members must be entered into Koha as patrons of the 'Staff' type'" ...is that accurate?
19:02 rangi having the manual bookmarked will save you a lot of stress learn_koha :)
19:02 rangi oleonard: no, it doesnt matter at all
19:03 talljoy it's good practice. but won't stop you from doing anything if you are not set as staff.
19:03 rangi permissions are all that matter, for everything except circulation
19:03 rangi one thing ive worked on, and is nearly finished is default permissions for a category
19:04 rangi like you can do with extended attributes currently
19:05 oleonard Oh that'll be great rangi. Long time coming.
19:05 rangi which would make that potentially true ;)
19:05 talljoy excellent
19:05 rangi its an on my own time thing, as it's not annoying enough to pay to fix :) so it suffers from being last in the queue, but it will get there
19:09 rangi talljoy++
19:09 rangi that is a great post
19:12 RowdyChildren @karma
19:12 huginn RowdyChildren: Highest karma: "cait" (162), "gmcharlt" (151), and "oleonard" (112).  Lowest karma: "^" (-9), "-" (-9), and "ie" (-7).
19:13 rangi we have 2 karma counters
19:13 rangi karma for cait
19:13 wahanui cait has karma of 603
19:13 rangi wahanui hasnt been reset
19:13 wahanui rangi: excuse me?
19:13 rangi you heard me you egg
19:14 druthb karma for druthb
19:14 wahanui druthb has karma of 178
19:14 jcamins rangi: quick, better reset wahanui's karma counter lest someone take it too seriously!
19:14 cait oh
19:14 druthb lol
19:14 rangi RowdyChildren: huginn gets reset each year (or just randomly also)
19:14 rangi karma #koha
19:14 wahanui #koha has karma of 5
19:14 rangi heh
19:18 cait is ther a good reason to use the cardnumber for linking on the holds queue??
19:20 bag cait does it display the cardnumber?
19:20 cait it does - but using it for th elink to the patron account seems unusual
19:20 cait instead of the borrowernumber
19:21 bag yup it does seem unusual (I would say that displaying the cardnumber is important - who really cares how you link it? - except speed impact?)
19:21 bag I think borrowernumber seems more consistent
19:21 cait not sure either - but borrowernumber seems more standard
19:22 bag yeah I agree with that cait :)
19:22 cait hm i have a patch - people can test and tell :)
19:22 mtompset mmm... perhaps because you can log in by cardnumber or username, not borrower number?
19:23 mtompset cardnumber is external visible by default. borrower number is not.
19:23 mtompset Just some thoughts.
19:23 mtompset But for linking data, I would expect borrower number over cardnumber.
19:24 cait it's a link in the staff interface...
19:24 cait nothing about the log in :)
19:26 rangi cait: it should be borrowernumber
19:26 rangi cardnumber can change
19:26 rangi then the link will be broken
19:28 cait it would be broken if it changed between runs of the holds queue script i think
19:28 cait but i agree
19:28 rangi does anyone know if the archives in hawaii are still using koha?
19:29 rangi http://archives1.dags.hawaii.g[…]koha/opac-main.pl
19:29 rangi heh looks like it
19:29 cait ok, patch is on bug 12359 - not sure about the feature itself, opinions welcome :)
19:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12359 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, In Discussion , hidepatronname doesn't hide on the holds queue
19:29 rangi good old version 2
19:30 rangi if anyone has a contact there, you can tell them, ill upgrade them for free, if they fly me over :-)
19:30 cait heh
19:30 cait if you do... ask if they need training too? :)
19:30 bag HA
19:34 cait hm question
19:34 wahanui question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
19:35 cait we have some very outdated docs about the tranlsation scripts
19:35 cait http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee8d7110aaa824cfa
19:35 cait should we remove them?
19:35 rangi yes
19:35 rangi outdated doc is worse than no docs
19:35 cait ok
19:35 cait i will make a quick patch thn
19:35 rangi yay
19:39 cait bub 10136
19:40 cait bug 10136
19:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10136 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , misc/translator/translator_doc.html outdated
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19:42 cait good morning kathryn
19:42 kathryn hello cait :)
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19:46 learn_koha hi,  why can i not find out where i can change my own password in staff site ?
19:49 cait learn_koha: easiest is to change it via the opac
19:50 learn_koha but this is my staff account,      staff account seems not to login opac ?
19:51 cait it does
19:51 cait unless you are using the databaes user, which you should not :)
19:53 learn_koha o... i know why i can not login, because i do have permission...   do you know how to bulk update permission?
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20:01 cait wow
20:01 * cait tries to fix something in one of the old reports
20:10 ashimema evening #koha
20:10 rangi hi ashimema
20:10 ashimema hey rangi.. how goes ti
20:11 ashimema s/ti/it
20:11 rangi not too bad, and you?
20:11 ashimema Not bad.. trying to get my head around tocken based authentication vs cookies..
20:11 ashimema it's just making me want to eat cookie s ;)
20:12 jcamins ashimema: tokens are better.
20:12 ashimema I'm thinking that..
20:13 ashimema but I'm stuggling to get my head around implimenting them ;)
20:13 jcamins I tell you from hard-won and painfully endured experience, cookie-based authentication for REST APIs is like replacing all the sugar in a cookie with rat poison.
20:13 jcamins [left as an exercise for the user]
20:13 ashimema will get there in the end I'm sure..  just another piece to hit my head against
20:13 * ashimema has been getting a sore head allot of late
20:13 ashimema haha... lol.
20:14 ashimema indeed.. it's a REST api I'm attempting to add such authentication too
20:14 ashimema (which reminds me.. I should poke at pianohacker to add tocken support to the Koha::Services patches he's working on ;) )
20:16 * cait growls at cataloguing stats
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21:26 BobB hi
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21:32 cait hi BobB
21:33 BobB hi cait
21:34 BobB @wunder sydney nsw
21:34 huginn BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
21:35 BobB @wunder sydney, australia
21:35 huginn BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (8:00 AM AEDT on November 11, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
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22:00 eythian hi
22:00 cait morning
22:03 mtompset Greetings, eythian. :)
22:03 mtompset Greetings, cait. :)
22:04 cait hi mtompset
22:08 eythian g'day cait, mtompset
22:32 eythian https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/events/#e148 <-- rangi, got your ticket for this?
22:32 dcook That moment when you write a comment on Bugzilla and you expect it to go to 5 people but it goes to at least 20.
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22:33 rangi eythian: i have
22:33 rangi oh, hmm no ihavent
22:33 eythian BBQ in a fortress!
22:33 wizzyrea how could you say no.
22:34 rangi i think ill be doing kids duty
22:34 eythian dcook: coming to kiwicon I assume?
22:34 rangi having skived off when the conf is on
22:34 dcook eythian: I love the style though. I recall you linking to the source for it I think..
22:34 wizzyrea you could foist them off on some one else ;)
22:34 wizzyrea <---
22:34 eythian dcook: yeah, I saw it when it was released, it's quite well done
22:34 dcook eythian: Alas, not this time
22:35 dcook Probably no travel for this guy until after July
22:35 rangi eythian: im doing this one https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/training/#e119
22:35 rangi i also sponsored tickets for 2 librarians
22:35 dcook Also, who knew that leaving the country reset certain bureaucratic counters...
22:35 rangi and jay at ndha matched me, with 2 more
22:35 eythian cool
22:35 dcook I love the names of these sessions
22:36 eythian I'm eyeing up the SDR training thing
22:36 dcook "Penetration Testing Java applications for Fun and Profit"
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22:38 mtompset Nice abridged code of conduct. :)
22:48 cait would someone be opposed to closing bug 8866?
22:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8866 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Plack - remove unneeded dbh->disconnects OMNIBUS
22:49 cait eythian: ?
22:49 eythian I totally have no opinion, mtj needs to explain what he's talking about there.
22:50 cait @later tell mtj can you take a look at bug 8866 please?
22:50 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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22:57 eythian https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/schedule/ <-- dcook, here's the whole schedule
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23:05 tcohen hi
23:05 wahanui bonjour, tcohen
23:06 eythian bonjour, tcohen
23:06 tcohen hi eythian
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23:07 cait wb tcohen
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23:16 tcohen i guess all of us will hang if we meet a zombie zebra
23:17 dcook Who, wha?
23:17 dcook cool, eythian :)
23:17 tcohen bug 8908
23:17 wahanui bug 8908 is where I reported it, but I don't see a patch.
23:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra
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23:20 tcohen_ am i online?
23:20 eythian tcohen_: nope
23:20 rangi yes, but im going to lunch
23:20 rangi :)
23:21 tcohen_ rangi: damn
23:21 tcohen_ logout tcohen
23:22 eythian yeah, tcohen. Logout!
23:23 tcohen_ hey, don't be rude
23:24 eythian you said it first
23:24 tcohen_ dcook: i'll go for an XSLT registry
23:24 tcohen_ eythian: :-P
23:24 tcohen_ thanks for the json-escape package
23:24 tcohen_ already installed on jenkins nodes
23:24 eythian cool
23:25 tcohen =D
23:25 tcohen \o/
23:26 tcohen katrina: doesn't 8908 block 12173?
23:26 tcohen (i.e. the other way around)
23:27 tcohen i mean, cait
23:27 cait sec
23:28 cait yep
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