IRC log for #koha, 2014-10-08

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00:07 Testing_ Hi anyone can help me with gpl license?
00:08 jcamins Testing_: what's the problem?
00:08 wahanui the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
00:09 Testing_ Question : if I paid a software firm to code on koha.  We now decidec to leave the firm to go with someone else.  Can they ask us to pay for our code?
00:10 jcamins Of course. That has nothing to do with the license.
00:10 jcamins That has to do with your contract.
00:10 Testing_ They ask for a "fee to use it". And they consider the current koha code (that we payed) there property.
00:11 Testing_ We already payed it? And i do have the source code in hand...
00:12 jcamins Oh, I thought you were asking if you had to pay for source code you contracted with someone to provide.
00:13 Testing_ Bottom line we just want to get away ... is it legal fir them to do that?
00:13 jcamins You should probably consult a lawyer.
00:15 Testing_ Yes but that's another extra fee :(. I tought that since koha is gpl everything that is done most be also gpl-copyleft
00:15 jcamins If your contract specifies that they are going to release the code under GPL, and they did so, I would think you can use the code however you like.
00:15 wizzyrea jcamins: there is now
00:15 jcamins wizzyrea: ah.
00:15 wizzyrea there wasn't when I looked earlier :)
00:16 Testing_ Hmmm that's the case then
00:16 Testing_ I'll surely double check with a lawer but i wanted to ask first.
00:17 Testing_ Thank you for your commenta
00:17 jcamins Testing_: but that's not legal advice, that's just common sense: if you have a contract that says you can have the code under GPL without any additional stipulations, and you already have the code, your contract would seem to be fully executed.
00:22 eythian Testing_ would have been best emailing SFLC with a detailed question
00:22 wizzyrea ^
00:23 jcamins eythian: good advice. You should give it next time someone comes around with a question like that.
00:23 eythian I would suspect that they would have had no recourse unless they were actually given a copy of the code, or if the contract stipulated they get a copy.
00:24 eythian Which is why we need the AGPL, because then they would be able to get a copy of it.
00:24 jcamins eythian: yeah, that is my thought as well, but it sounded like s/he had a copy of the code already.
00:29 indradg hi
00:30 indradg would anyone have an idea if there is any db schema doc for 2.2.8?
00:32 * indradg knows it is pre-history :(
00:32 indradg rangi:  is there a 2.2.8 db schema doc around somewhere?
00:34 indradg @later tell rangi   is there a 2.2.8 db schema doc around somewhere?
00:34 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded.
00:42 indradg @later tell rangi nevermind, figured it out!
00:42 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded.
00:43 * indradg facepalms for not looking up :P
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03:55 bag hola
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04:43 dpk hi
04:43 wahanui kia ora, dpk
04:45 dpk I am ran an upgrade from 3.14.6 to 3.16.4 and there was a database update that occured because the db update script could not drop the index on issn column of biblioitems.  I get a ERROR 1091 (42000): Can't DROP 'issn'; check that column/key exists.
04:47 dpk It does exist and I can select items from it.  Running command "alter table biblioitems drop index issn;" fails when run manually as well.
04:47 eythian probably there was no index there to start with
04:47 eythian in which case, it'll be safe to ignore
04:47 dpk Any hints on how to drop the index so I can update the column from varchar(9) to mediumtext?
04:48 eythian if there's no index there, you don't need to drop it
04:49 dpk It does show MUL under the key column for issn.
04:49 dpk I am also prevented from doing the CHANGE to mediumchar.
04:49 wahanui okay, dpk.
04:50 eythian then maybe there's an index there with a different name that you need to drop
04:50 eythian a 'show create table biblio' might tell you
04:51 dpk Ah - the index is issn_idx!
04:51 eythian that'll be it :)
04:54 dpk And we're done!
04:55 eythian excellent
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04:58 eythian hrm, firebug doesn't give you the post headers when it's going to result in a file.
04:58 eythian that makes debugging this a bit harder.
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06:00 * magnuse waves
06:31 * ashimema waves
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06:42 reiveune hello
06:54 magnuse hiya ashimema and reiveune
06:54 ashimema hows it hangin' magnuse :)
06:54 reiveune \o_ magnuse
06:55 ashimema hey reiveune
06:55 wahanui reiveune is probably working for biblibre
06:55 reiveune hi ashimema
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06:58 magnuse ashimema: not too shabby, just wishing i was in argentina... ;-)
06:59 ashimema me too.. though my spanish is non-existant.. so I'm not sure i'd have understood anything ;)
06:59 alex_a bonjour
06:59 wahanui bidet, alex_a
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07:10 Viktor Hi #koha
07:13 magnuse tjänare Viktor
07:14 magnuse ashimema: yeah, but not everything is in spanish :-)
07:14 ashimema true..
07:18 Viktor hej magnuse
07:19 magnuse and the hallwaytrack is probably a good mix
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07:28 gaetan_B hello
07:30 ashimema indeed..
07:30 ashimema your making me sad for not beign there again magnuse.. meany ;)
07:33 magnuse sorry!
07:33 ashimema haha.. no worries..
07:33 ashimema ranig is doing a good job of blogging though..
07:34 ashimema :)
07:34 magnuse but hey, following #kohacon14 on twitter is almost as good as being there, right?!
07:34 magnuse yeah, hooray for him!
07:34 magnuse rangi++ i mean
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07:41 ashimema ack.. my brain is again not wanting to work today..
07:48 magnuse just ignoe it ;-)
07:48 magnuse s/ignoe/ignore/
07:54 alvet hi eythian :)
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09:06 magnuse w00t! http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]ment-with-egils-3
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09:32 indradg good afternoon #Koha
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10:00 ashimema morning khall
10:00 khall mornin ashimema!
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10:01 ashimema I'll try not to distract you so much today ;)
10:04 magnuse nah, let's all conspire to make khall not do anything useful ;-)
10:05 ashimema magnuse.. you should play with his Object modules..
10:05 ashimema they make for interesting reading.. and hopefully some very dry codeing.
10:06 ashimema bug 13019
10:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13019 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add base classes on which to build Koha objects
10:10 magnuse i'd love to, but right now i am getting paid to add plack as an option to
10:16 ashimema :)
10:16 ashimema awesome
10:18 rangi magnuse: are you using the koha-plackify?
10:24 magnuse rangi: um, no what's that?
10:24 magnuse i was going to use the stuff in misc/plack/
10:24 magnuse that dpavlin added
10:25 magnuse ah[…]ckify-koha-common i presume?
10:29 rangi hmm dont think so
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10:31 magnuse kia ora cait!
10:34 rangi[…]ack.git;a=summary magnuse
10:35 * cait waves
10:35 magnuse rangi: ah, thanks
10:36 magnuse but that is just for the opac?
10:37 magnuse our plan is to use it for development/testing in the first place, both for opac and intranet, with all the debug console stuff
10:39 rangi yep, but it can be extended pretty easily for the intranet
10:40 rangi and if you do that, then its useful for the wider project not just dev too :)
10:41 rangi because it builds a koha-plack.deb which we can put in the repo and ppl can get
10:41 rangi just trying to make more work for you  :)
10:44 magnuse hehe, thanks ;-)
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10:45 magnuse rangi: looks like there is already a intranet.psgi - maybe the description is a bit misleading
10:49 rangi ok gotta go get breakfast bbl
11:03 magnuse have fun rangi
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11:41 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
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12:01 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:24 cait hola #koha
12:24 cait ztajoli is now talking about sql files/strings from the database
12:24 cait and them being 'one language only'
12:24 cait like you can only have one translation active all the time, because they are installed with the web installer and there is no way to have multiple
12:25 magnuse good point!
12:25 cait yep
12:26 cait hey magnuse :)
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12:27 magnuse cait: is this up to date and in use?[…]amespace_QA_Rules
12:27 cait hm i am not sure how that would be influenced by the recent discussions around dbic
12:27 cait but it looks like what we had agreed to yes
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12:32 rangi hmmm
12:33 rangi im not sure how this solves the only one language at once in the sql problem?
12:37 rangi am i missing something?
12:37 magnuse cait: thanks
12:40 cait not sure yet
12:40 cait i think maybe he will get to it
12:42 oleonard nengard:[…]g.cgi?id=13038#c3
12:42 huginn Bug 13038: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , checkboxes disappearing on author searches
12:43 nengard checking now
12:43 Joubu see[…]_bug.cgi?id=10509
12:43 huginn Bug 10509: normal, P5 - low, ---,, BLOCKED , Using i18n function for translation in webinstaller mysql files
12:43 Joubu not sure Zeno has seen this bug/patch
12:44 rangi ahh he has a comment on  it
12:44 rangi second 2 last comment
12:44 rangi sounds like it needs a rebase
12:44 rangi maybe i can have a go at that
12:45 rangi it would be great to have it working
12:45 Joubu ha yes, did see the comment
12:45 Joubu not*
12:45 nengard oleonard closed it
12:46 oleonard Thanks nengard
12:46 nengard no problemo
12:46 nengard i thought the library was on 3.16 already
12:47 rangi tiny patch, so shoud be able to get it to apply, but it will still need all the .sql files changes to be useful, but can at least get it some of the way
12:48 oleonard nengard: You and I having both contributed to the closing of a bug report I propose we call it a day and toast our success.
12:48 rangi :)
12:50 nengard :)
12:50 nengard I'm all for it
12:50 nengard Day off for me :)
12:50 oleonard What's your boss gonna do, come to your house and make you get back to work? :P
12:51 oleonard nengard: If not, then perhaps you can recall which report triggered Bug 12757?
12:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12757 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , single quote in odt export
12:51 nengard YIKES .... okay let me so some searching
12:53 oleonard Oh, probably saved SQL reports?
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12:53 magnuse rangi: koha-plack will need some tweaking (e.g. to account for the new .conf in apache conf files) - is there a better way than emailing patches to eythian or chris hall?
12:53 nengard yes oleonard
12:53 wahanui oleonard is not really here.  He said so.  He did!
12:54 oleonard wahanui: Lies.
12:54 wahanui oleonard: i'm not following you...
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12:57 oleonard wahanui: You should follow me on Twitter
12:57 wahanui oleonard: what?
12:58 rangi magnuse: you could send a pull request
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13:05 oleonard I've been thinking about an update to the saved reports system so that you could mark certain reports as accessible by the staff without giving staff full reports access
13:05 oleonard I'm not sure how hard it would be, but I wonder if others would find that useful
13:14 cait nice presentation from a group of library students from cordoba
13:14 cait they have gathered quotes from local authors for the quote of the day feature
13:14 nengard yes oleonard i like that
13:14 nengard and i know others will too
13:15 cait i wonder, maybe we could put those  on the wiki?
13:15 cait because you can import from a CSV
13:15 cait so others could use it
13:16 rangi this is cool
13:16 rangi have to tell chris nighswonger how his feature is being used
13:16 ashimema 'tis cool aint it rangi.
13:17 magnuse rangi: pull request it is then :-)
13:17 oleonard Remember: chris_n forever lies in wait for the right time to strike.
13:17 cait yep
13:17 cait rangi: what do you think about starting a iwki page?
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13:25 rangi paul_p: the link is in my blog post
13:26 paul_p rangi thx
13:27 * chris_n looks out from under cover
13:27 cait cool presetnation about quote of the day
13:27 chris_n oleonard: let me know if that regex does what you want when you get around to trying it
13:27 cait with literature quotes from cordoba authors
13:28 chris_n cait: will there be video of it somewhere afterwards?
13:28 oleonard chris_n: Thanks I'm putting it off because it means firing up the VM for testing IE8
13:29 rangi chris_n++
13:32 cait chris_n: i am not totally sure
13:32 cait someone seems to be filming
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13:32 cait but not sure if it#s the whole presentation or for the film they are doing
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13:35 oleonard Is it that I'm picking deceptively difficult bugs this week or my brain isn't working properly?
13:40 cait the bugs are getting harder :)
13:43 cait now seeing a presentation about a survey they did
13:43 cait i think the libraires participating are all part of the big system we saw yesterday
13:43 cait conabip?
13:48 rangi im loving these presentations by students
13:48 rangi a highlight of the conference for me
13:50 cait yeah very cool :)
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14:02 oleonard Bug 13042
14:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13042 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Move budget action links into menu
14:02 oleonard Let me know if I'm getting too crazy with the menus.
14:03 cait i think maybe a rule like... if there are more than x links... move into a menu?
14:03 cait what we have on some tables which is nice is that we link the decsription name to 'edit' action
14:03 cait so that saves you a click on the menu if you want to edit
14:04 oleonard Usually the description name is linked to the "view" action if one is available
14:05 cait yeah, i think we often have no view :)
14:05 cait i think patron categories links to edit
14:05 cait i like hat because it' fast and no need to scroll to the end of the table
14:06 cait i am getting nervous about the presentation, might not make much sense
14:07 * oleonard thinks the patron categories summary table has too much information
14:08 cait probably... *feels guilty*
14:09 cait i made people add columsn there in qa
14:15 * oleonard blames cait for every change made to since 2007
14:16 * nengard thinks oleonard is mean!!
14:16 * nengard loves cait
14:16 nengard ;)
14:18 cait :)
14:19 cait oleonard: i tihnk i only started owrking on koha in 2008...
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14:50 cait good presentation from brendan about needing more hands
14:50 cait and funding
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15:00 rangi eek running out of battery, can somone take notes for the ebsco presentation for me?
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15:08 Tom my battery isn't in great shape either but I can try :) got a sample of what level of detail you're looking for?
15:08 ashimema would do.. but i'm not there :(
15:12 rangi just notes is fine, i can fill in the rest from notes, like alvet presented the plugin, it works with the eds api
15:12 rangi etc
15:12 Tom will do
15:21 reiveune bye
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15:21 cait my battery is about to die too :(
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15:29 Tom battery is holding down like a champ. think I'm going to make it!
15:29 brendan_ hola
15:29 wahanui salut, brendan_
15:29 cait i have to shut down :(
15:29 cait bbl
15:31 ashimema hi brendan_
15:31 brendan_ heya ashimema - miss you here
15:32 ashimema yeah.. wish I could have been there..
15:32 ashimema hopefully hackfest though :)
15:33 ashimema sounds like you got people talking at your presentation.. all good :)
15:33 brendan_ awesome!  yes paul_p Joubu we need another hackfest :D
15:33 brendan_[…]the-koha-project/
15:34 ashimema hard problem to solve.. good to hear your working on it :)
15:34 ashimema enjoying the rest of the conferance.. got a favourite presentation..
15:35 * brendan_ ’s of course :P
15:35 brendan_ heh
15:35 ashimema :)
15:36 brendan_ so far the library school students were pretty cool
15:36 Tom the MOTD presentation by the library students was pretty neat
15:36 ashimema cool
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15:42 brendan_ tcohen++
15:42 brendan_ thanks for the help Dood
16:04 Tom lunch time!
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16:30 gaetan_B bye
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17:58 rangi how do you say, my name is chris in spanish?
17:59 kmlussier me llamo chris
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18:00 rangi thanks kmlussier
18:00 * cait waves
18:00 kmlussier It's so rare that I know the answer to a question in #koha. :)
18:01 rangi :)
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18:01 quocuy Hi everyone
18:03 nengard hi
18:03 quocuy thanks
18:03 rangi hi quocuy
18:03 quocuy i have a question
18:03 quocuy hi rangi
18:04 quocuy i enabled self registration and send email when user is created
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18:04 quocuy So when staff create an user, a email was sent to user's email, but when user register himself, no email was sent
18:05 cait hm is the notce template set up?
18:05 cait for the notice?
18:05 quocuy No :(
18:05 quocuy i didn't
18:05 quocuy where is it?
18:05 wahanui it is true that the styling of the buttons make them appear less important too, but in a different way.
18:05 cait hm there should be one by default, but sometimes things are not as they should :)
18:05 cait there should be a notice for the verify registration process in tools > notices
18:06 quocuy Ok, give me a sec
18:07 quocuy Yeah, there is no notice about registeration
18:07 cait it shoudl be in th emodule members
18:07 cait and called OPAC_REG_VERIFY
18:08 cait i tihnk best would be to find the normal sample notice and use that
18:08 quocuy "Hello <<borrowers.title>> <<borrowers.firstname>> <<borrowers.surname>>.  Your new Koha account details are:  User:  <<borrowers.userid>> Password: <<borrowers.password>>  If you have any problems or questions regarding your account, please contact your Koha Administrator.  Thank you, Koha Administrator"
18:08 cait that's a different feature
18:08 cait that's for when you add a patron in the interface
18:08 cait if you use self registration it works differently
18:09 quocuy yeah,  saw it
18:09 cait so, there is autoemail...something - that will send an email when a new account is created
18:09 cait and then there is self registration that will the user ask to verify his/her email address before giving them access to the account
18:09 quocuy i tried register myself, but no email was sent
18:09 cait which one are you looking for?
18:10 quocuy i found his notice "Hello!  Your library account has been created. Please verify your email address by clicking this link to complete the signup process:  http://<<OPACBaseURL>>/cgi-bin/koha/opa​<<borrow​er_modifications.verification_token>>  If you did not initiate this request, you may safely ignore this one-time message. The request will expire shortly."
18:10 cait quocoy: if i remember correctly certain fields need to be filled out in order to send the registration email when adding a new account in staff - username, password and email address i think
18:11 quocuy yes
18:11 cait i am sorry, but bit confused about whichfeature we are talking about right now :)
18:11 quocuy :(
18:11 quocuy I tried enable self registeration
18:11 cait ok
18:11 quocuy and need to verify email
18:11 cait ok
18:11 quocuy but there is no email was sent
18:11 cait so the second email should work
18:12 cait oh
18:12 quocuy And the first email didn't
18:12 cait did you run process message queue?
18:12 cait or did you check that an email is in the message_queue?
18:12 quocuy I think it should be default
18:12 quocuy there is nothing in mail.log
18:13 cait did you check the message_queue table?
18:13 quocuy sorry, what is it? :(
18:13 cait it's a table in the database where emails are stored
18:13 cait to be sent out
18:13 quocuy OK, i didn't check it
18:13 cait some email are sent out directly, like the ACCTDETAILS
18:14 cait but others, like the OPAC_REG_VERFIFY are using the queue, and then you need to run a script on the server to sent them out
18:14 quocuy and when staff created an user, it sent email automatically?
18:15 rangi ive started linking the blog posts,[…]ohacon14/Schedule for kohacon14, if anyone wants to help please do, or link in slides
18:16 cait sorry quocuy - i am at a conference and getting a bit nervous about my upcoming presentation
18:16 cait i think i need to pay attention now - maybe someone else has an idea
18:16 quocuy OK
18:16 quocuy thank you
18:16 quocuy do not worry
18:16 quocuy it's ok
18:16 quocuy thank @cait!
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19:58 rangi NateC: bag is on his way to grab beer from your fridge
20:03 NateC got em
20:03 NateC heading up to 16 in a few
20:03 NateC rangi
20:08 rangi sweet
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20:19 rangi hmmm i might watch a dvd, i have 4 nz movies if anyone wants to hangout
20:19 cait hmm what you got?
20:21 rangi boy, eagle vs shark, once were warriors, whale rider
20:21 cait hmm
20:21 cait don't know any of that
20:21 cait ofthose?
20:22 cait I am still overheated :)
20:23 rangi yeah :)
20:24 cait and at some point i might even remember what i told people earlier in the presetnation
20:24 cait :)
20:25 rangi[…]ohacon14/Schedule
20:25 rangi has all the links i know now
20:25 cait very cool
20:25 cait rangi++ rangi++
20:28 rangi someone else can do notes for the hackfest
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20:31 cait heh
20:32 cait the user group people mentioned that you are going to help them saturday :)
20:32 cait so you will be too busy
20:36 rangi heh
20:37 rangi yeah i seem to have volunteered for everything
20:37 cait we should have kept an eye on you :)
20:59 cait Joubu: could you share the dependency tree for the patches again>?
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21:05 Joubu @later tell cait I prefer to tell you how find it :) on the wiki page, the entry point ([…]/GST_Rewrite_RFC) you can find the main bug number (bug 12825). And then the link is there :)
21:05 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
21:06 wizzyrea drat, no alvet today
21:08 rangi he's prbably tired after his presentation
21:08 wizzyrea *nod*
21:08 wizzyrea also hi :)
21:11 wizzyrea khall: about?
21:11 wizzyrea bother.
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21:27 eythian hi
21:27 wahanui privet, eythian
21:35 eythian <-- Enterprise Git Achievement solution.
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21:48 magnuse bag: HI
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22:17 paul_p rangi => any plan for dinner ? (seems bob & bywater ppl don't go out for dinner, will just grab a kebab or something like that)
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22:24 rangi no plans, just watching a movie at the moment
22:25 rangi im making cait watch a nz movie
22:25 wizzyrea which?
22:25 wahanui hmmm... which is quite horrible
22:26 rangi boy
22:26 wizzyrea ohhh good one.
22:26 tcohen rangi: are joining for dinner?
22:26 paul_p rangi = do you think you'll wait for 9PM for dinner & go outside ?
22:26 paul_p tcohen = bob & ppl from bywater won't join.
22:27 rangi yep
22:27 rangi if others want to go
22:27 paul_p rangi = & cait ?
22:28 rangi probably she says
22:28 paul_p same answer from joubu & me...
22:28 paul_p tcohen = possible to have a "quick" dinner somewhere ? I'm a little bit tired, but would be happy to join for dinner.
22:28 rangi if tcohen wants to spend an evening home, im also happy to just get a kebab or something
22:29 tcohen cecilia and I would join a "quick" dinner
22:29 tcohen if we have enough quorum
22:29 paul_p tcohen = ++ (if you know where we should go)
22:29 rangi i wonder if there is somewhere to get Milanesa
22:30 paul_p tcohen = 3 BibLibre + you&cecilia + rangi + cait. that's enough ?
22:30 tcohen rangi: there the "El club de la Milanesa" ;-)
22:30 rangi romena from buenos aires said i should try it
22:30 tcohen they serve ALL KIND of milanesas
22:30 rangi oh cool
22:30 tcohen and they serve a 2L beer
22:30 tcohen they call it a "missil"
22:30 rangi heh
22:30 tcohen because of the size
22:31 tcohen so, "el palacio de la milanesa"
22:31 tcohen and we have quorum
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22:31 rangi movie finishes in about 20 mins
22:31 rangi can go anytime after that :)
22:31 * cait leanred that nz movies have no happy endings
22:31 tcohen we can be there 8:40
22:32 rangi perfect, we can meet you downstairs
22:32 tcohen paul_p: ok for you?
22:34 bag hola
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22:34 paul_p tcohen = ok for me
22:34 rangi buenos noches bag
22:34 paul_p 2 brendan for the price of one :D brendan_ & bag
22:34 bag heh
22:34 tcohen ok, will be there with cecilia around 8:40
22:34 rangi yay!
22:34 tcohen buenas noches bag
22:35 rangi ahhh i always get buenos and buenas wrong
22:35 bag buenas noches tcohen
22:35 tcohen nights are female
22:36 cait heh
22:36 wizzyrea seems legit.
22:36 tcohen everybody knows that :-P
22:36 tcohen ok, shower is free now, gotta leave
22:37 rangi :)
22:37 cait cya in a bit
22:38 bag anybody know what room number talljoy is?
22:38 rangi not me
22:38 cait 7......
22:38 cait hm
22:38 rangi yeah 7 something
22:38 rangi just walk down the hall yelling
22:38 rangi :)
22:38 cait i think a or c
22:38 cait but ... no guarantees
22:39 bag hey talljoy!!!  heh
22:39 bag ok well
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22:56 nengard Is anyone around?
22:58 eythian yes
22:58 nengard Hiya!!
22:58 nengard I'm introducing some LIS students to #koha
22:58 nengard You're on the big screen
22:59 eythian woo big screen :D
22:59 eythian also: hi everyone :)
23:00 * wizzyrea waves
23:03 nengard thanks all - back to teaching! :)
23:03 wizzyrea sorry we weren't more interesting ;)
23:04 eythian It's Thursday lunchtime, not the most active times in the week :)
23:22 paul_p rangi =tomas is there, we can go downstairs !
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23:52 wizzyrea plus kohacon ^.^

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