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oleonard joined #koha |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
| 00:44 |
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dcook |
Heya oleonard! |
| 00:44 |
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wahanui |
oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
| 00:44 |
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dcook |
How goes it? |
| 00:44 |
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oleonard |
I thought I'd stop by and see what kind of fun happens when I'm not usually around |
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oleonard |
Obviously the answer is: Lots :P |
| 00:49 |
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dcook |
Haha |
| 00:49 |
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dcook |
It depends! |
| 00:49 |
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dcook |
It's been fairly quiet this past week or two I think |
| 00:49 |
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dcook |
But we have heaps of fun when you're not around sometimes :p |
| 00:49 |
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dcook |
I think one of my favourite times is probably in... |
| 00:49 |
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dcook |
Another 4-5 hours though, so you'll probably be asleep |
| 00:50 |
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dcook |
I think 4-5 hours is when the Europeans wake up. Always nice to see them :) |
| 00:50 |
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dcook |
Maybe folks are reading koha-devel like me atm |
| 00:51 |
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oleonard |
Yeah I never get to see the Europeans when they're bright-eyed and fresh ;) |
| 00:52 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 00:53 |
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dcook |
I think I usually only see the west coast Americans :p |
| 00:53 |
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dcook |
Although not quite when they're bright-eyed |
| 00:53 |
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dcook |
Usually a bit more sleepy |
| 00:55 |
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eythian |
hi oleonard |
| 00:55 |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 00:55 |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on September 12, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 00:55 |
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eythian |
17° is good, hopefully that's boding for a nice weekend. |
| 00:56 |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
| 00:56 |
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huginn |
oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 16.5°C (8:55 PM EDT on September 11, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 00:58 |
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wizzyrea |
omgooses it's an oleonard |
| 00:59 |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea! |
| 00:59 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
| 00:59 |
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wizzyrea |
hi! |
| 00:59 |
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wizzyrea |
how's stuff? |
| 00:59 |
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oleonard |
Stuff is good |
| 01:01 |
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oleonard |
My schedule is a little different these days so I'm usually out of IRC before any of you guys are online |
| 01:01 |
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oleonard |
I miss having at least a little bit of overlap :) |
| 01:32 |
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dcook |
Overlap is good :) |
| 01:32 |
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dcook |
@wunder syd |
| 01:32 |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (11:00 AM EST on September 12, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:32 |
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dcook |
The weather out here is weird these days.. |
| 01:40 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah I like overlap too, I miss the witty banter. |
| 01:42 |
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oleonard |
What are you working on these days wizzyrea? |
| 01:49 |
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oleonard |
Oh well I'll have to take my answer off the air. Bye everyone, see you Monday. |
| 02:01 |
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wizzyrea |
doh! |
| 02:03 |
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* wizzyrea |
turns on notifications for the koha channel |
| 02:03 |
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wizzyrea |
people I never talk to turning up all over the place, don't want to miss it! |
| 02:05 |
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dcook |
^ |
| 02:05 |
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dcook |
I'll try to monologue less, wizzyea, so I don't inundate you with notifications ;) |
| 02:06 |
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* dcook |
should have a #dcook channel.. |
| 02:14 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe naw don't worry |
| 02:15 |
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wizzyrea |
notification means "turn the title of the channel green" |
| 02:15 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 02:15 |
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wizzyrea |
not like, growl notifications |
| 02:16 |
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eythian |
http://i.imgur.com/x0leAIb.png <-- what one of our sites looks like on a newsletter day. |
| 02:16 |
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eythian |
http://i.imgur.com/A4nMHmxl.jpg <-- and its user distribution |
| 02:18 |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
| 02:18 |
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dcook |
That's cool :) |
| 02:18 |
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wizzyrea |
nice to see it getting some use |
| 02:23 |
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cait joined #koha |
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| 02:28 |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKy7Q50tJ84 <-- cool as hell |
| 02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
oh man that looks amazing |
| 02:32 |
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rangi |
now i need to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ftLAcOKl8 again |
| 02:33 |
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ibeardslee |
saw a shorter trailer to that when I saw The Dark Horse |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
yeah, I think I've seen a teaser. |
| 02:34 |
|
* wizzyrea |
is jealous of people who get to see adult movies in the theatre |
| 02:34 |
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rangi |
yeah now the have the full one, the 1st one had no talking .. most people didnt realise its the first full length film in te reo |
| 02:34 |
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wizzyrea |
which is SO cool |
| 02:35 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 02:35 |
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wizzyrea |
not "adult" movies, but movies for grownups. |
| 02:35 |
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wizzyrea |
crap. |
| 02:35 |
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wizzyrea |
you know what I mean. |
| 02:35 |
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wizzyrea |
or maybe you don't |
| 02:35 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 02:36 |
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eythian |
yeah wizzyrea. we know exactly what you meant :D |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
*sobs* |
| 02:37 |
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wizzyrea |
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr[…]1qf55vho1_500.gif |
| 02:40 |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: the 'dead' guy in it is lurtz from lotr |
| 02:40 |
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wizzyrea |
I thought he looked familiar (that's not a joke.) |
| 02:41 |
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wizzyrea |
or as spud would call him, "the growly sister" |
| 02:41 |
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wizzyrea |
(I don't even know) |
| 02:43 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 02:43 |
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rangi |
atarau used to call gollum colin |
| 02:43 |
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rangi |
theres colin |
| 02:45 |
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| 02:48 |
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eythian |
hi cait1. Go back to bed. |
| 02:48 |
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eythian |
No really, it's way early. |
| 02:48 |
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cait1 |
k |
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| 02:49 |
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eythian |
http://cdn.diply.com/img/1be49[…]-0c0a298b06ad.jpg |
| 02:50 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 02:50 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 02:50 |
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wizzyrea |
eythian++ that was awesome |
| 02:51 |
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dcook |
lol |
| 02:53 |
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wizzyrea |
spud is deathly afraid of gollum |
| 02:54 |
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wizzyrea |
it's because of his questionable motives. |
| 02:54 |
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wizzyrea |
or ambiguous morality |
| 02:54 |
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eythian |
http://www.crisisoninfinitemid[…]ter_sdcc_2012.jpg <-- you should put that up in his bedroom |
| 02:55 |
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wizzyrea |
you are evil. |
| 02:55 |
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dcook |
spud sounds like a reaosnable person |
| 02:55 |
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wizzyrea |
I like it. |
| 02:55 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:55 |
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wizzyrea |
no seriously he'd never enter his room again. |
| 02:55 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe I'll put it up in *my* room. |
| 02:55 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 03:04 |
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| 03:24 |
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eythian |
http://madddscience.tumblr.com[…]on-teacher-in-the |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
wahanui: is it beer o'clock yet? |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
I feel like taking your silence as a yes. |
| 03:25 |
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wizzyrea |
it definitely feels like it ought to be. |
| 03:25 |
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dcook |
Mmm beer |
| 03:25 |
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dcook |
eythian: I took your advice and got a case this last time :p |
| 03:25 |
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dcook |
Still seemed to disappear just as fast though... |
| 03:26 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 03:26 |
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dcook |
No room for two cases though... maybe I need two fridges... |
| 03:26 |
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eythian |
they don't have to all be there at the same time, you know. |
| 03:28 |
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dcook |
True. I suppose I could always start re-filling the fridge when I get down to the last 12 or so |
| 03:29 |
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dcook |
Don't want to run out and have to resort to warm beer though |
| 03:30 |
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| 03:34 |
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dcook |
CSS media queries ftw |
| 03:34 |
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dcook |
yo pianohacker |
| 03:34 |
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pianohacker |
hi dcook |
| 03:35 |
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dcook |
how's it going? |
| 03:37 |
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pianohacker |
good, long long day but life is good |
| 03:37 |
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pianohacker |
yours? |
| 03:37 |
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wahanui |
yours is better actually |
| 03:37 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 03:38 |
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dcook |
Glad life is good |
| 03:38 |
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dcook |
Things are going well on the visa front |
| 03:38 |
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dcook |
Heading to Europe in a few weeks |
| 03:38 |
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pianohacker |
woo! |
| 03:38 |
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dcook |
Few downs but overall it's awesome :) |
| 03:38 |
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dcook |
Are you going to Kohacon14? |
| 03:38 |
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pianohacker |
very glad to hear, especially the silly visa... |
| 03:39 |
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pianohacker |
I don't think so, between school and the travel expense |
| 03:41 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I'll be stoked to get my permanent residence. Hopefully end of this year or more likely start of next year. |
| 03:41 |
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dcook |
It'll be a huge relief |
| 03:41 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I hear that. It's pricy :/ |
| 03:42 |
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pianohacker |
yeah... what's your current situation? |
| 03:42 |
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wizzyrea |
^ 2nd that |
| 03:42 |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: yarp |
| 03:42 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: I'm on a work visa until mid 2016 atm |
| 03:42 |
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dcook |
But PR would mean I could stay forevaz |
| 03:42 |
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pianohacker |
okay, so there's time, but PR is far better |
| 03:42 |
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dcook |
And have Medicare :D |
| 03:42 |
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dcook |
Yeah, there's time. So it's not a huge rush. |
| 03:43 |
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dcook |
Will look forward to being treated a bit more like a regular person. |
| 03:43 |
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pianohacker |
oh, that's excellent |
| 03:43 |
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dcook |
Although the Australian medicare system is still weird |
| 03:43 |
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dcook |
It's like... Canada and America smooshed together |
| 03:43 |
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dcook |
Confusing as :S |
| 03:43 |
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pianohacker |
that could be fantastic or just terribad |
| 03:43 |
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pianohacker |
smooshed how? |
| 03:44 |
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dcook |
I often think it's terribad |
| 03:44 |
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dcook |
They have public hospitals and private hospitals |
| 03:45 |
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dcook |
Public hospitals are typically free, and private hospitals are definitely not free |
| 03:45 |
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dcook |
But even in public hospitals... you can do things privately |
| 03:45 |
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dcook |
Which means that you can opt to pay for public services (the idea being that your private insurance will cover the cost) |
| 03:45 |
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pianohacker |
... why would you do that? availability of services, waiting time? |
| 03:45 |
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wizzyrea |
usually doing it privately can expedite the process |
| 03:46 |
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dcook |
Yeah, private hospitals in theory have specialists and are theoretically faster |
| 03:46 |
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dcook |
Paying for public services... no reason to do it except to contribute extra to the public system |
| 03:46 |
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eythian |
it's possible that it allows for extra things that aren't covered by the subsidisation |
| 03:47 |
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dcook |
Mmm that too |
| 03:47 |
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dcook |
Like you can sometimes get a private room |
| 03:47 |
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wizzyrea |
that's true. |
| 03:47 |
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dcook |
Private hospitals are scary though |
| 03:47 |
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dcook |
I had a friend go in who had private cover |
| 03:47 |
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dcook |
But there was complications and now they have massive bills :S |
| 03:47 |
|
* dcook |
is used to Canada where you flash your health care card and that's it |
| 03:48 |
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* wizzyrea |
is used to america where a massive bill is the norm |
| 03:48 |
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wizzyrea |
nz seems to about split it |
| 03:48 |
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rangi |
here you can go private |
| 03:48 |
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wizzyrea |
*seems* - my experience is extremely limited. |
| 03:48 |
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rangi |
if its elective, or non life threatening |
| 03:48 |
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rangi |
and you want to jump the queue |
| 03:49 |
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pianohacker |
how long is the queue generally? |
| 03:49 |
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rangi |
depends |
| 03:49 |
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rangi |
hernia can be quite long |
| 03:49 |
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pianohacker |
that seems like something they'd want to expedite... |
| 03:49 |
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rangi |
like 4 months or so |
| 03:49 |
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rangi |
well you dont die from a hernia |
| 03:49 |
|
rangi |
it just hurts |
| 03:50 |
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dcook |
Yeah, wait times are the thing I usually hear about in regards to public |
| 03:50 |
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wizzyrea |
you'd probably get decent drugs in the meantime though |
| 03:50 |
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wizzyrea |
for pretty cheap. |
| 03:50 |
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rangi |
orthapaedic (hip replacements etc) are the other ones that are sometimes long |
| 03:50 |
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rangi |
for free |
| 03:50 |
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dcook |
I've never been sick or injured, so I have no personal experience (maybe I'm like Bruce Willis from Unbreakable) |
| 03:50 |
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rangi |
pharmac is good like that |
| 03:50 |
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dcook |
My family seem OK with the wait times though. They've almost always been shorter than estimated. |
| 03:50 |
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dcook |
But that's also Saskatchewan... not BC or Ontario |
| 03:51 |
|
rangi |
when i got my artrial fibralation i had a hospital ride, an over night state, and cardioversion |
| 03:51 |
|
rangi |
cost me 0$ |
| 03:51 |
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dcook |
yay, rangi! |
| 03:51 |
|
eythian |
and then probably $5 for prescriptions :) |
| 03:51 |
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rangi |
laurel was saying in ny it would have been $1000 for the ambulance ride alone |
| 03:51 |
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rangi |
yep $5 for 3 months of meds |
| 03:51 |
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pianohacker |
*sigh* as a college student with two surgeries in the past year (for hearing stuff), this is like talking about tuition with the french |
| 03:51 |
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eythian |
it's ~$80 in Dunedin |
| 03:51 |
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pianohacker |
just makes me sad |
| 03:51 |
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wizzyrea |
spud went into the emergency room for a weird feeling after hours viral thing - $0 |
| 03:51 |
|
eythian |
(for the ambulance) |
| 03:52 |
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rangi |
thats why i gave the wellington free ambulance $40 today on their appeal day |
| 03:52 |
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wizzyrea |
walking into the US on our former insurance plan cost $100, and that's before any treatment at all. |
| 03:52 |
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wizzyrea |
into the ER, in the US |
| 03:52 |
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pianohacker |
then you had really good insurance! |
| 03:53 |
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wizzyrea |
well, then you'd get a bill for the insurance covered actual treatment |
| 03:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
after the fact |
| 03:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
which could be quite outrageous. |
| 03:53 |
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pianohacker |
yup... |
| 03:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
$500 for xrays, for example. |
| 03:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
anyway, quite a bit different to that here |
| 03:53 |
|
* wizzyrea |
is always ready to pay whatever they ask |
| 03:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
but it's rarely much if any. |
| 03:54 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, my visit to the doctor on a Sunday was $85. They gave me a script for antibiotics and sent me away. |
| 03:54 |
|
dcook |
Most of the time was spent with them talking about their own immigration history :/ |
| 03:54 |
|
dcook |
pianohacker: That sucks about the surgeries :( |
| 03:54 |
|
dcook |
I figure if Australian tuition goes crazy, my kids can move back to Canada where it's better |
| 03:55 |
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dcook |
Quebec tuition is rather good. Not as good as a lot of Europe, but still good. |
| 03:55 |
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pianohacker |
the first one was great, it's what got me my implant, this one last thursday to fix a complication with that was less exciting |
| 03:55 |
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dcook |
About $2500 for a year of uni |
| 03:55 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: Sounds expensive :( |
| 03:55 |
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pianohacker |
American tuition isn't just expensive, it's goddamn bizarre |
| 03:55 |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
| 03:55 |
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pianohacker |
oh yeah. worth every penny to get hearing but still expensive |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I went to uni with a girl who had like... $100,000 of debt from a BA in the US :S |
| 03:55 |
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wizzyrea |
I feel fortunate to have gotten through just before it all went crazy bonkers |
| 03:56 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: Glad it was worth it :) |
| 03:56 |
|
pianohacker |
but anyway yeah. As an undergrad, your parent's income is counted when you are awarded need-based financial aid (including even just _federal loans_) in a way that assumes your parents are putting a very significant amount of their earnings into your tuition |
| 03:56 |
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pianohacker |
this persists until you are 25 |
| 03:57 |
|
* rangi |
goes for beer |
| 03:57 |
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pianohacker |
the _second_ you become a grad student, though, this stops happening, and your aid reflects your own income only... |
| 04:02 |
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dcook |
That does sound bizarre |
| 04:02 |
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wizzyrea |
to your benefit or detriment? |
| 04:04 |
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pianohacker |
to my benefit, massively; I used to not even get enough federal loans to cover tuition, and now I get loans plus grant |
| 04:04 |
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pianohacker |
*grants |
| 04:14 |
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dcook |
Money money money :D |
| 04:16 |
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pianohacker |
it's a high-stakes way to learn personal finance... |
| 04:17 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, no doubt... |
| 04:18 |
|
dcook |
I think I was quite fortunate with the Canadian medical and educational systems |
| 04:18 |
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dcook |
Well, high school was dull. Would've loved advanced courses, but you can't win them all :p. |
| 04:19 |
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pianohacker |
I think high school is dull for most? |
| 04:23 |
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dcook |
Well, I think lots of people have a miserable high school existence, so I'm fairly pleased overall |
| 04:23 |
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pianohacker |
I like a lot of things about America, but there's a lot of things that have demonstrably failed as private institutions that we stubbornly hold on to |
| 04:23 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: true! dull is better than soul crushing |
| 04:23 |
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dcook |
:) |
| 04:24 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, as a non-American, it's a weird position to be in |
| 04:24 |
|
dcook |
I like lots of Americans. America also has a lot of rad things in it. |
| 04:24 |
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dcook |
But some of the other things are just baffling :S. |
| 04:24 |
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pianohacker |
yeah... |
| 04:24 |
|
dcook |
Mind you, other countries are like that too. Just not as much in the media's attention. |
| 04:25 |
|
dcook |
I probably know more about American celebrities than I do Australian celebrities, and I live in Australia. |
| 04:25 |
|
dcook |
I don't even watch TV! |
| 04:25 |
|
dcook |
Free uni and free healthcare would be great though... |
| 04:25 |
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dcook |
Free transport. I'm coming around to the idea of free PT. |
| 04:26 |
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pianohacker |
we're the sexy alluring lady/gent with deeeeep mental issues... |
| 04:26 |
|
dcook |
Could probably say that about Australia too :p |
| 04:26 |
|
dcook |
As for Canada, I like to think our issues are fairly superficial and located in Ontario :p |
| 04:27 |
|
* dcook |
forgets sometimes that he hasn't lived in Canada regularly for a few years now |
| 04:28 |
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pianohacker |
heh. What is ontario like? My only experience of Canada as of yet is Montreal, which, well |
| 04:28 |
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dcook |
Norway only has 5 million people. Maybe we should all go and boost their population... |
| 04:28 |
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dcook |
How was Montreal? |
| 04:28 |
|
* wizzyrea |
waves from NZ |
| 04:28 |
|
* dcook |
really needs to visit NZ... |
| 04:28 |
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pianohacker |
aaaaaanyway |
| 04:29 |
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pianohacker |
montreal was fun, but you can tell just how hard the french canadians are trying to prove that they're french |
| 04:29 |
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dcook |
Ontario is all right. Just the politicians have issues. |
| 04:29 |
|
dcook |
Mmm |
| 04:29 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, that's a bit of a thing sometimes |
| 04:29 |
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wizzyrea |
right, was gonna say about montreal - it's french. |
| 04:29 |
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dcook |
Ah, but it's not. It's Quebecois. |
| 04:30 |
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* dcook |
would use the correct diacritics and stuff but Hexchat and keyboard shortcuts don't play nicely |
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pianohacker |
the street grid alone, dear _lord_ |
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wizzyrea |
I was 12 when I was there, all I remember is the quebecois thing, and BLT's, and traffic. |
| 04:30 |
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dcook |
Québeçois* |
| 04:30 |
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dcook |
There we go :) |
| 04:30 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I can't recall the traffic |
| 04:30 |
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dcook |
Street grid? |
| 04:30 |
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dcook |
I mostly remember poutine. |
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wizzyrea |
or lack thereof |
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pianohacker |
^ |
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wizzyrea |
man, I hated fries when I was a kid, but I'd be all about poutine now. |
| 04:31 |
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dcook |
And that many people asking for money in subways spoke impeccable English and French |
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dcook |
O_O |
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dcook |
You hated fries as a kid? |
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* dcook |
wonders if Liz might be an alien |
| 04:31 |
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pianohacker |
in _kansas_? |
| 04:31 |
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wizzyrea |
I did, yes |
| 04:31 |
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dcook |
Well, I hated cheese as a kid. |
| 04:31 |
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dcook |
So that's fair |
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wizzyrea |
it just wasn't a thing |
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pianohacker |
interesting... |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 04:31 |
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wizzyrea |
I wasn't crazy about fries |
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* dcook |
also hated mushrooms... until he had fresh mushrooms |
| 04:32 |
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wizzyrea |
I also hated onions and peppers. |
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* pianohacker |
was also converted to tomatoes by fresh tomatoes |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
Mmm same |
| 04:32 |
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wizzyrea |
capsicums |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
hehe |
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pianohacker |
now I could eat them by the bushel |
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dcook |
I was just about to ask if they were capsicums |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
Mmm, pianohacker, yes! |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
Same |
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dcook |
Turns out fresh food really is awesome. |
| 04:32 |
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wizzyrea |
i've always liked tomatoes |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
And trying to make websites conform to bad designs is not awesome |
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* dcook |
glares at his browser |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
that is not awesome. |
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pianohacker |
The second I have a yard there'll be tomato plants all over it |
| 04:33 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, check out our new pretty koha: http://ihc.mykoha.co.nz |
| 04:33 |
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wizzyrea |
it's piiink |
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pianohacker |
ooh very nice. bootstrap? |
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wizzyrea |
yarp |
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pianohacker |
sweet |
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wizzyrea |
you'll be happy to know that we also have a library using the overdrive integration :) |
| 04:34 |
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wizzyrea |
pretty exciting |
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dcook |
pretty! |
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dcook |
Now I want bubblegum.. |
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dcook |
Has anyone tried to force their bootstrap Koha to be a fixed width? :( |
| 04:35 |
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pianohacker |
glad to hear. That code can be a bit frustrating to work with due to the way overdrive manages their API, but it seems to be of value to a lot of people |
| 04:35 |
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wizzyrea |
hm I think so |
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wizzyrea |
http://hewitson.mykoha.co.nz |
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dcook |
Actually, it does work all right in Koha |
| 04:36 |
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dcook |
I'm just having issues with DSpace's bootstrap template now.. |
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wizzyrea |
ah well yeah that'll be different |
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dcook |
Mmm, nice one with the media query for the image on that fixed with one, wizzyrea |
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dcook |
I did that with another DSpace and it worked quite nicely |
| 04:36 |
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* dcook |
just likes saying "media query" |
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* wizzyrea |
points to our design team |
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dcook |
Nice one, design team! |
| 04:37 |
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wizzyrea |
i can't take credit for that, but they are ace at their jobs. |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukeba[…]rm=4ldqpgp#81hsz0 this is totally snerkworthy |
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wizzyrea |
blargh timesheets I almost forgot |
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dcook |
Almost beer o'clock for you folk! |
| 04:40 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah it is, I'm skipping it today though |
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pianohacker |
I feel so terrible for laughing at the one about the girl going to college |
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dcook |
D'oh |
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dcook |
It helps when you remember to add the original style that would've cascaded down to fix the problem you can't seem to fix.. |
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dcook |
pianohacker: hehe |
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dcook |
I guess it's a good thing my grandma isn't on FB |
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pianohacker |
good night all |
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cait |
lol |
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dcook |
? |
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dcook |
hi cait :) |
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cait |
http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]s-very-early-pops |
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cait |
sounds slightly familiar |
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cait |
interesting discussions while i was sleeping :) |
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cait |
and glad again to live in germany with our health care system |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
I don't know too much about it. Is it all public? |
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cait |
you can also get private insurance here too |
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cait |
but i'd say the normal case is you have public |
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cait |
flashing your card and not paying when you go to a doctor |
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cait |
just a small amount for a prescription, similar to nz maybe? |
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dcook |
Does that mean there are private hospitals as well? |
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dcook |
You can get private insurance in Canada, but I think it's mostly for things like dental and optical |
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cait |
hm i could imagine there are for some things, specialized |
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cait |
but i have never run into one knowingly |
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dcook |
Hmm, sounds similar to Canada then |
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cait |
it's not something i have thought about a lot - if you are sick you go to the ER or to a doctor |
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dcook |
Yeah, that's how I grew up too :) |
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cait |
there are doctors who only take patients with private insurance tho |
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dcook |
Interesting |
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wahanui |
Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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dcook |
I think there are private practices back home as well, at least when it comes to psych I think |
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* dcook |
glances at koha-devel |
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dcook |
Nothing new there since this morning.. |
| 06:15 |
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cait |
probably a timezone thing |
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cait |
and it's friday :) |
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dcook |
Friday! |
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dcook |
I'm working on a buddhist library right now, so I'm quite relaxed... |
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dcook |
;) |
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cait |
nice :) |
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cait |
not sure what i will be working on today |
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cait |
i started to update the marc frameowrks in our installations... |
| 06:18 |
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dcook |
\o/ |
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cait |
rda fields etc |
| 06:18 |
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dcook |
That's awesome |
| 06:18 |
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cait |
lol |
| 06:18 |
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cait |
really? |
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dcook |
Well, I think so :p |
| 06:18 |
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dcook |
I think it's really important to have up-to-date frameworks :) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
yeah it is for us even more |
| 06:18 |
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dcook |
Especially as the consequences of having old frameworks isn't always readily apparent to libraries |
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cait |
because cataloguing is done in the union catalog software mostly |
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dcook |
Mmm, righto! |
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cait |
and you don't notice when a field/subfield is missing in koha |
| 06:20 |
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dcook |
Exactly |
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dcook |
I used the XML that bgkriegel uploaded. Loaded the XML into a hash, iterated through the frameworks, and did a insert ignore |
| 06:20 |
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dcook |
With a... "on duplicate" as well |
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dcook |
So I could update the "repeatable" attribute for existing rows |
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dcook |
yo indradg |
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indradg |
hi dcook |
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dcook |
Of course, now that all of our libraries have updated frameworks, the impetus for building a more sustainable mechanism has flagged a bit... |
| 06:22 |
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* indradg |
is still so sleepy that drinking the first cup of tea looks like a tough chore! :-( |
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dcook |
:( |
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eythian |
@later tell tcohen I've fixed the Test::Simple thing, but now I have this: http://paste.koha-community.org/203 -- I'll hold you responsible even though it's probably not your fault :D |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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dcook |
Oh nose |
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* dcook |
was thinking about the whole subtest issue recently... |
| 06:26 |
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eythian |
dcook: I'm just making a newer version of test::simple a dependency |
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eythian |
I had trouble specifying that in the build-depends, but have it sorted now. |
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dcook |
\o/ |
| 06:27 |
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eythian |
now I have to go get a bus |
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eythian |
later |
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ashimema |
morning all |
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cait |
dcook: i am doing it with sql probably :) |
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cait |
morning ashimema |
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dcook |
cait: I did it with SQL as well :) |
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dcook |
Well, SQL in Perl.. |
| 06:32 |
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dcook |
later eythian |
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dcook |
morning ashimema |
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ashimema |
just reading your dbic email dcook. |
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dcook |
Mmm, I sure write a lot. |
| 06:35 |
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dcook |
Perhaps I should change my middle name to Opinionated |
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dcook |
:P |
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cait |
that would make your initials doc than, right? :) |
| 06:35 |
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dcook |
Oooo it would! |
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dcook |
I think that's a great idea |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
salut, reiveune |
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dcook |
salut reiveune |
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reiveune |
salut dcook |
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cait |
hi reiveune |
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cait |
bbia |
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cait |
b |
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reiveune |
\o/ cait |
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dcook |
Have to love when you're trying to match backgrounds but your reference site has a different hierarchy of containers.. |
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dcook |
Hmm, I can do this.. |
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dcook |
Muahaha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
hola, alex_a |
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fridolin |
hie all |
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ashimema |
I've got totally lost on the dbic debate now.. |
| 06:55 |
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ashimema |
Think I'll grab ColinC today for a chat.. We seem to use dbic in a really odd way in koha. |
| 06:55 |
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ashimema |
anywho.. breakfast time |
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fridolin |
breakfast ;) a good one |
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Joubu |
Good morning |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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dcook |
greetings France folk :) |
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* dcook |
really needs to get better at leaving the office on time, especially on Fridays... |
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dcook |
All right. Leaving! |
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dcook |
Have a good Friday/weekend all |
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* cait |
waves |
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ashimema |
hey cait |
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cait |
hi cait |
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cait |
um |
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cait |
hi ashimema |
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ashimema |
Anyone added cronjobs to a package install? |
| 10:47 |
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cait |
not specific to one instance :( |
| 10:47 |
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ashimema |
I'm getting confused.. |
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ashimema |
:( |
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ashimema |
I thought adding a /etc/cron.d/koha-instance file with a bunch of jobs would do the trick.. |
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ashimema |
but it never seems to get executed.. |
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ashimema |
I'm baffleds |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
could it be permissions or something like that? |
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pastebot |
"nic" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "library" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/204 |
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pastebot |
"nic" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "library" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/205 |
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agbolo |
hello guyz |
| 11:24 |
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agbolo |
i am blocked |
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agbolo |
i did a make and i had these warning messages |
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agbolo |
_koha DOC_DIR=/usr/local/info perl Makefile.PL If installing on a Win32 platform, be sure to use: 'dmake -x MAXLINELENGTH=300000' Warning: prerequisite AnyEvent::HTTP 2.13 not found. Warning: prerequisite Archive::Extract 0.60 not found. We have 0.34. Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite Data::Paginator 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite Gravatar::URL 1.03 not found. We have 1.02. Warning: prerequisi |
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agbolo |
please wbat does it mean? |
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agbolo |
must i install all the prerequisites been reported as warning messages? |
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agbolo |
anybody home? |
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agbolo |
pls help |
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agbolo |
anybody available |
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cait |
ah, no oleonard |
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cait |
:( |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
salut, tcohen |
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kivilahtio |
where do I put unit test for the new Koha:: namespace? |
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kivilahtio |
mainly Koha::Reserves.pm ? |
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kivilahtio |
they are db_dependent tests :) |
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cait |
not sure kivilahtio, tcohen? |
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tcohen |
there's no consensus |
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tcohen |
id put that on t/db_dependent/Koha/Reserves.t |
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cait |
sounds good to me |
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tcohen |
some prefer t/db_dependent/Koha_Reserves.t |
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tcohen |
(i don't) |
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tcohen |
if you're focusing on a specific sub from Koha::Reserves and are writing several tests, use a subtest definition |
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tcohen |
or even t/db_dependent/Koha/Reserves_specific_sub.t |
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cait |
nice |
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cait |
i wonder |
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cait |
we don't have a koha:reserves yet, do we? |
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cait |
kivilahtio: what are you up to? :) |
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kivilahtio |
cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12353 |
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huginn |
Bug 12353: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Reserves last pickup date needs to respect holidays, and everybody need to know the last pickup date for reserves, even notices. |
| 14:28 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: we are finally upgrading our production to 3.16.3 |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
i think there is a bug for that |
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cait |
it might be duplicate |
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kivilahtio |
cat this weekend. |
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cait |
i think i'd wait for 3.16.4 |
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kivilahtio |
we wont |
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cait |
or look at the bugs in bugzilla with candidate 3.16.4 as keyword |
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kivilahtio |
we can upgrade again |
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cait |
there are some that you might want to pick |
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cait |
if you really want to update - like a follow up for ajax so the holds dispaly correctly |
| 14:29 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: already got that |
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cait |
ok :) |
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kivilahtio |
cait: but there might be more fixes that need doing |
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kivilahtio |
cait: how do I make that candidate search? |
| 14:30 |
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cait |
if you look atht eholds bug, it has a keyword, try searching for that |
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cait |
i am looking for the holds/holidays one |
| 14:31 |
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cait |
bug 8735 |
| 14:31 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Expire holds waiting only on days the library is open |
| 14:32 |
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cait |
initial commitmonster? :D |
| 14:32 |
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cait |
i am all for displaying it, but I am not sure if you ahd kyle's patch already |
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kivilahtio |
cait: had I known, paxed made this patch months ago and now it broke (it has kinda always been broken) when migratiing to 3.16.3 |
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cait |
kyle's path took a while to get in |
| 14:33 |
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cait |
i remember because i tested it |
| 14:33 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: I think Kyle's patch is as good as ours |
| 14:34 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: Too bad I need to start working on other issues and worry about that later |
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cait |
if you coudl take a look that would be great, i think it might be missing some aspects about showing the pickup date |
| 14:34 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: I can provide a followup after we have migrated to 3.16.3 |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
there has also been a patch pushed recently for formatting the dates in the notices according to the pref |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
cool |
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cait |
i will put a seealso |
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kivilahtio |
if I remember, but prolly a shitstorm will hit us after the migration :) |
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cait |
i think you have quite a few customizations still |
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cait |
i will keep my figners crossed for you :) |
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kivilahtio |
we do |
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kivilahtio |
rhanks |
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kivilahtio |
cait: our feature is completely different, we just skip holidays, so i just got an item waiting for me, then weekends are holidaytime and with 6 day time to pick waiting holds, my expiration is bumbed up by two weekends |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
what does kyle do? skip to the next possible opening day? |
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kivilahtio |
cait: not completely different, but we get extra day added for each holiday, I think it makes no difference really |
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cait |
might need a pref then, we have one for calculating due dates |
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kivilahtio |
cait: looks like it |
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wahanui |
Can we get some hard data on that? |
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cait |
shh wahanui |
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wahanui |
I'M EXCERCISING MY ROBOT RIGHT TO FREE DATA TRANSMISSION |
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cait |
lol |
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kivilahtio |
whanui is getting smarter by the day |
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kivilahtio |
wahanui is getting smarter by the day |
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cait |
yeah, he will outsmart us all soon |
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kivilahtio |
i think so |
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cait |
wahanui? |
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wahanui |
yes, cait? |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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reiveune |
bye |
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fridolin |
bye |
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tcohen |
Joubu: i'll give those problems with patron import a ride next week |
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tcohen |
i'm out of town today and the rest of the weekend |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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abcgh |
SOS |
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abcgh |
PLEASE CAN ANYBODY HEKP ME ON THIS |
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abcgh |
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 KOHA_CONF=blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/00-checkdatabase-version.t ........ ok t/00-deprecated.t ................... ok t/00-load.t ......................... 2/? Subroutine main::GetContract redefined at /usr/share/perl/5.10/Test/More.pm line 805 Too late to run INIT block at /home/koha/Downloads/koha-3.16.03/blib/PERL_MODULE_D |
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abcgh |
ANY HELP ON THE ABOVE |
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abcgh |
SOS HELP PLEASE |
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abcgh |
PLS CAN ANYBODY HELP |
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WNickC |
Hi all |
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WNickC |
does anyone know if there is a list of which notices can be customised by branch and which cannot? |
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