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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.3 is available! Next general meeting was 13 and 14 August 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. |
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* tcohen |
didn't know we don't have a way to import/export authority frameworks |
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* tcohen |
lied to a librarian |
| 01:05 |
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rangi |
ahh |
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rangi |
there are some scripts that can go through bugzilla and make a changelog type thing |
| 01:06 |
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rangi |
it might be a start of a feature list |
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rangi |
if we pulled out all enhancements and new features |
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rangi |
that are pushed, or closed etc |
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tcohen |
:-D |
| 01:10 |
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rangi |
something like this |
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rangi |
http://www.bugzilla.org/status/changes.html |
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tcohen |
awesome! |
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wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, tcohen |
| 01:19 |
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wizzyrea |
ohh awesome indeed |
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dcook |
tcohen: I opened a bug report for import/export of authority frameworks I believe |
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dcook |
Never got around to it though... |
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dcook |
Need to find a way to update those too for existing installs.. |
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dcook |
As I think authority records had changes with RDA as well |
| 01:32 |
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tcohen |
dcook: if you find the bug, point me to it |
| 01:32 |
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tcohen |
it seems we have all that is needed to implement it |
| 01:33 |
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dcook |
Probably :) |
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tcohen |
bye! |
| 01:34 |
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dcook |
Hmm, maybe I didn't open a bug |
| 01:34 |
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dcook |
I think I might've just sent a listserv email then... |
| 01:34 |
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dcook |
Or just talked about it on IRC |
| 01:34 |
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dcook |
Ages ago in any case |
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BobB |
hi all |
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BobB |
has anyone done an Overdrive integration? |
| 01:41 |
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eythian |
we have a couple. |
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BobB |
cool |
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BobB |
so if you set the parameters in the sys prefs, does that give Overdrive results with the search results? |
| 01:43 |
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BobB |
what I am wondering is whether the user has to authenticate to the OPAC to see the OD results? |
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eythian |
I'm not actually sure. I haven't done it myself, but I don't _think_ so. |
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eythian |
rangi will know more. |
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BobB |
so anyone can access the results, but then perhaps not link to the content? |
| 01:43 |
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rangi |
actually wizzyrea did south taranaki, shes the one to ask |
| 01:44 |
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rangi |
ive never actually done one |
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eythian |
oh right. |
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eythian |
ask wizzyrea :) |
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BobB |
ok, thx :) |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
that thing is a thing I know about >.> |
| 01:57 |
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eythian |
@later tell cait http://www.oktoberfest.co.nz/ |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
it's a springtime party! |
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dcook |
Sweeeet. I think I have an idea to improve the ccl.properties |
| 02:25 |
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dcook |
range r=o |
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dcook |
Boom |
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* dcook |
drops mic |
| 02:26 |
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dcook |
It doesn't really work that way though :p |
| 02:26 |
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dcook |
acqdate,range,st-date-normalized:2013-01-01 - 2015-10-01 |
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dcook |
:D |
| 02:26 |
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dcook |
"acqdate,range:2013 - 2015" would work though |
| 02:27 |
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dcook |
Ohh you could even do "acqdate,range,st-date-normalized:2013-01 - 2015-10" |
| 02:28 |
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dcook |
Could have a whole range of ccl aliases for Zebra's special attributes... |
| 02:29 |
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dcook |
s=pwThe structure is set to either word or phrase depending on the number of tokens in a term (phrase-word). |
| 02:29 |
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dcook |
That's kind of magical |
| 02:30 |
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dcook |
I don't think we'd want to use that by default though |
| 02:30 |
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dcook |
I think most folk expect a "wrdl" search |
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dcook |
Oooh. I didn't know you could change ccl.properties without re-indexing. |
| 02:31 |
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dcook |
Of course, that makes total sense... |
| 02:39 |
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dcook |
Mind you, maybe there's no point with that... |
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dcook |
Maybe it makes more sense to add "r=o" to acqdate |
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dcook |
That would probably make it easier for transitioning to elasticsearch.. |
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dcook |
Just adding "r=o" to dates |
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dcook |
Well...not all dates |
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dcook |
r=r allows "1950-1960" |
| 02:40 |
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dcook |
while r=o would require "1950 - 1960" |
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dcook |
r=r won't work with iso dates whereas r=o will... |
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dcook |
But we can't change existing r=r to r=o without changing documentation |
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* wizzyrea |
blinks |
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wizzyrea |
are you monologuing again? |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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dcook |
Maybe a little bit... :p |
| 02:47 |
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dcook |
Hmm, the dates don't work quite as I'd expect.. |
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dcook |
Close but Zebra returning more results than I'd think.. |
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dcook |
Maybe funny processing.. |
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dcook |
I love how "st-date-normalized" should actually be "st-date-unnormalized". |
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eythian |
heh |
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dcook |
It's like someone thought, "Hey...how can I best screw with a bunch of people..." |
| 03:44 |
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dcook |
Then again.. |
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dcook |
wth.. |
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dcook |
Ok, I think Indexdata made this mistake |
| 03:45 |
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dcook |
Or maybe I'm just reading it strangely.. |
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dcook |
Ooh |
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dcook |
eythian: I wanted to ask you about ES |
| 03:46 |
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dcook |
How does it handle ranges? |
| 03:46 |
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dcook |
Specifically for dates |
| 03:46 |
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dcook |
Actually, that's not the real question |
| 03:46 |
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eythian |
it depends |
| 03:46 |
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dcook |
What's the syntax for specifying a date range? |
| 03:46 |
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eythian |
the way I'm using it, I think it's just date1-date2 |
| 03:46 |
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dcook |
Interesting |
| 03:46 |
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wahanui |
well, Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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wizzyrea |
edit links from the detail page: super great, thanks. |
| 03:46 |
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eythian |
oh, no |
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dcook |
wizzyrea:? |
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eythian |
field:[date1 TO date2 |
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eythian |
] |
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eythian |
http://lucene.apache.org/core/[…]#Range%20Searches |
| 03:47 |
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wizzyrea |
there's a little edit link in the items table on the biblio detail view now |
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dcook |
This syntax http://www.elasticsearch.org/g[…]-range-query.html matches something I was going to try myself as well |
| 03:47 |
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wizzyrea |
takes you directly to editing the item, and it's fantastic. |
| 03:48 |
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dcook |
Even when independent branches is turned on? |
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eythian |
yeah, I'm not using that method of querying ES (yet) |
| 03:48 |
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dcook |
eythian: So how would that look if a user were writing it out? |
| 03:48 |
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dcook |
Oh.. |
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dcook |
I guess they'd have to use the Lucence syntax |
| 03:48 |
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eythian |
I've never tried, I just know that it works with the advanced search range things. |
| 03:48 |
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eythian |
yeah |
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dcook |
I've been thinking a bit about context based help pages.. |
| 03:49 |
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dcook |
So that someone could click on "Syntax help" or something less scary, and get the right help for building a query |
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eythian |
ah yeah |
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dcook |
As at the moment there's no way for people to know what search engine is in use |
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dcook |
As far as I can tell |
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eythian |
yeah, you pretty much can't |
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dcook |
Yeah, I was supporting someone today and I didn't have access to their backend at all (not even their staff client) |
| 03:51 |
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dcook |
Rather interesting trying to figure things out when you can't see anything |
| 03:51 |
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dcook |
I'm not even sure if it WAS an elephant |
| 03:52 |
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dcook |
I'm thinking of changing "acqdate" so that it can be used with date ranges |
| 03:53 |
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dcook |
Ahh |
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dcook |
Date (un-normalized)100unsupported |
| 03:54 |
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dcook |
Makes sense |
| 03:54 |
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dcook |
I wonder why we bother with it then though |
| 03:55 |
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eythian |
sorting? |
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wahanui |
somebody said sorting was a Monday job |
| 03:55 |
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dcook |
Oh, I just mean that Zebra says it doesn't support it. But we still have it in ccl.properties. |
| 03:56 |
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eythian |
ah |
| 03:56 |
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dcook |
Lots of them actually |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
Oh my... |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
According to the Bib-1 profile, "Date normalized" is supposed to be "Generalized time" as according to ASN.1 http://www.obj-sys.com/asn1tutorial/node14.html |
| 03:58 |
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dcook |
ISO 8824 |
| 03:58 |
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dcook |
Rather than ISO 8601's YYYY-MM-DD |
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dcook |
I assume when Zebra says it uses ISO dates that it uses 8601... |
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eythian |
oh man ASN.1 |
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dcook |
Mmm, that's what MARC 005 uses, yeah? |
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eythian |
I think so |
| 04:01 |
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dcook |
Hmm, maybe not... |
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dcook |
But based on it |
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dcook |
Apparently 005 uses ISO 8601 :S |
| 04:02 |
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dcook |
I guess the standard does say hyphens are optional |
| 04:02 |
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dcook |
at least for YYYY-MM-DD |
| 04:03 |
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dcook |
Yeah...I don't think MARC adheres to 8601 even though it says it does for the 005 |
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* dcook |
gives MARC a thumbs down |
| 04:03 |
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eythian |
MARC doesn't even adhere to the MARC spec. |
| 04:03 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
005 is almost ISO 8824 but not quite |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
:S |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
Yeah, MARC takes liberties with MARC |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
eythian: Any idea what a "digital number" i s? |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
is* |
| 04:07 |
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eythian |
a 1 or a 0? |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I don't think that's what they're meaning :/ |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
numeric (@attr 4=109)ignoredNumeric ('n')Special index for digital numbers |
| 04:08 |
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eythian |
I've got no idea |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
I assume they mean that it's an integer? |
| 04:08 |
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eythian |
maybe? |
| 04:08 |
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wahanui |
maybe is, like, a momentaneous error |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
lol |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
well timed, wahanui |
| 04:08 |
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wahanui |
dcook: sorry... |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
I think that's what it must mean |
| 04:09 |
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dcook |
Maybe not.. |
| 04:09 |
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dcook |
year (@attr 4=4)ignoredYear ('y')Non-tokenized and non-normalized 4 digit numbers |
| 04:09 |
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dcook |
Makes sense |
| 04:09 |
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dcook |
I suppose we do say "4 digit numbers" |
| 04:09 |
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eythian |
yeah, I guess |
| 04:09 |
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dcook |
I can't imagine a number that's not a digital number.. |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
Maybe as opposed to a date |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
Which may or may not have extra punctuation? |
| 04:10 |
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eythian |
"twelve" |
| 04:11 |
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eythian |
there's no digits there |
| 04:11 |
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dcook |
Mmm |
| 04:11 |
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dcook |
When you say it like that, it just seems obvious :p |
| 04:11 |
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dcook |
Good one |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
I am tempted to make a "range" qualifier... |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
You could specify "local-number,range:1-100" |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
Get all records with bib numbers between 1 and 100 |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
But... I don't want to add something that might make it more annoying for people to use ElasticSearch at some point |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
So maybe makes more sense to make local-number capable of being a range on its own |
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* dcook |
nods to himself |
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dcook |
In that case, st-numeric probably shouldn't have a "r=o" in it |
| 04:15 |
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dcook |
Rather unnecessary |
| 04:18 |
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dcook |
Hmm, could actually improve a few of the item indexes |
| 04:18 |
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dcook |
Not sure anyone uses them though |
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* wizzyrea |
always enjoys dcook's monologues |
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wizzyrea |
truly. |
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dcook |
I always hope that they're entertaining at least :) |
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dcook |
Just imagine if I were a teacher O_O |
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dcook |
Poor students... |
| 04:40 |
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dcook |
Interesting... "Date-of-acquisition" is the only index that uses a "date" register |
| 04:40 |
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dcook |
We use a "number" register for "date-entered-on-file" |
| 04:40 |
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dcook |
That seems great.. |
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dcook |
Oh, and a sort index |
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dcook |
sort register rather |
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dcook |
I wonder if it doesn't work with date.. |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: I also love when I find a bug and then I go on these big quests to right wrongs |
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dcook |
Man "ls" is a sweet tool.. |
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eythian |
sudo apt-get install sl |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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dcook |
hehe |
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* dcook |
wishes he had a debian-based OS.. |
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dcook |
I wonder if they have a rpm for opensuse |
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dcook |
Nah |
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dcook |
Love that moment when you discover the cause for something that you've been wondering about... |
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dcook |
ISO 8601:2000 allowed truncation (by agreement), where leading components of a date or time are omitted. Notably, this allowed two-digit years to be used and the ambiguous formats YY-MM-DD and YYMMDD. This provision was removed in ISO 8601:2004. |
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dcook |
Standards... :/ |
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dcook |
Whoa... Zebra deja vu... |
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mtj |
peeps, can anyone recomend an best chioce for SIP2 - telnet or raw-socket? |
| 05:24 |
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mtj |
koha prefers raw to telnet for sip2... from memory |
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mtj |
any prefs, anyone? |
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* dcook |
has no clue about SIP2 |
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mtj |
i might have missed wizzyrea - she would know :0) |
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* mtj |
will try to catch wiz tomorrow |
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mtj |
i sorta remember telnet option, to be more glitchy for sip stuff |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* cait |
waves |
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dcook |
hey cait, magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya dcook |
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* Oak |
waves |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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Oak |
:] |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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Oak |
|o_ |
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Oak |
nah. does not look right. |
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dcook |
_o| |
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dcook |
Hmm, nopes. |
| 06:24 |
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dcook |
A little like dancing I suppose! |
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ashimema_zzzz |
morning #koha |
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Oak |
yup. or that aviation hand signals... |
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Oak |
more like dancing. like the head is tilted towards the horizontal arm. saturday night fever style, almost. |
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Oak |
okay enough use of imagination. back to work. |
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magnuse |
good morning ashimema |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonojur reiveune |
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* cait |
has to run, bbiab |
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reiveune |
hi magnuse dcook cait |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonojur cait gaetan_B alex_a |
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magnuse |
wow, my gitified dev install is acting weird, with different versions in all the different places that has a version number |
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ashimema |
well done magnuse.. |
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alex_a |
salut magnuse |
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ashimema |
I'm still very much up and down as to whether I think gitified is a good approach to development or not now.. |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
ashimema: i think it might be good for running workshops |
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magnuse |
yeah, it's got its up and downs |
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ashimema |
I'm running into more and more cases where I want to test somthing that isn't easily doable using a gitified install (zebra index changes for example). |
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ashimema |
It's certainly quick to get you up and running.. |
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ashimema |
my main dev environment is gitified though, and I'm starting to regret that.. |
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ashimema |
I do think however, with some modifications, the script would serve very well for getting sandbox instances up and running super quick.. |
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ashimema |
at the moment, they suffer pretty much the same drawbacks.. |
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ashimema |
but in a sandbox environment they're not so nasty ;) |
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* ashimema |
is waffling again.. somone kick him |
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* ashimema |
is going to go back to playing with mojolicious, angularjs and mongodb |
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cait |
oooh |
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* ashimema |
should add bootstrap in there somewhere.. and we have a very pretty app very quickly. |
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cait |
:) |
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* magnuse |
becomes curious as to what ashimema's app does |
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Oak |
i'll ask. what does your app do ashimema? |
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magnuse |
thanks Oak :-) |
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Oak |
:) |
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rana |
hello |
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wahanui |
salut, rana |
| 08:18 |
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rana |
i am facing koha web installation problem |
| 08:18 |
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rana |
following error i have found |
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rana |
Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 802. |
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rana |
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 68. |
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rana |
anyone have any idea? |
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Oak |
rana: which linux distribution and version are you running? |
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rana |
ubuntu 12.04 |
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magnuse |
rana: and how are you installing? packages? |
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magnuse |
and which instructions are you following? |
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rana |
packages |
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wahanui |
it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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rana |
yes |
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rana |
it got the koha web installation screen |
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rana |
succesfully login |
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rana |
and follw the instructions |
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cait |
did you install mysql-server? |
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rana |
yes |
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cait |
how did you create the instance? |
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cait |
how did your koha-create command look like? |
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rana |
with the command koha-create --create-db INSTANCE NAME HERE |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
magnuse: ? |
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rana |
means |
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cait |
i am not sure what's wrong :( |
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cait |
magnuse: do you have an idea? |
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indradg |
rana: did you manage to complete the install? or the error hit you before that? |
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rana |
no error i have found during installation |
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indradg |
so when did you face the error? |
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rana |
when i open the koha web installation page |
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indradg |
"redirecting you in 5 seconds or click here" part? |
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rana |
successfully login |
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indradg |
ok |
| 08:25 |
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indradg |
then? |
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rana |
then when koha connect mysql then the error came |
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Oak |
this runs ok?: service mysql restart |
| 08:26 |
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rana |
ok let me c heck |
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rana |
its cant be start |
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Oak |
5 cookies his database server was down |
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rana |
what to do |
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Oak |
oho. |
| 08:30 |
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Oak |
what does it say? |
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Oak |
why can't it start i mean. |
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rana |
cant connect local mysql server through socket |
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rana |
var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
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indradg |
rana: did you install mysql-server ? |
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rana |
yes |
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magnuse |
what if you do "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"? |
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magnuse |
no, that might be wrong |
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magnuse |
no, it's right |
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rana |
job fail to start |
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magnuse |
any error meassge? |
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rana |
its stying JOb fail to start |
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rana |
should i remove mysql-server and again reinstall it? |
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magnuse |
does it just say "failed to start", or does it indicate why? |
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magnuse |
there is a log file you can look at |
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magnuse |
try |
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magnuse |
sudo tail /var/log/mysql.err |
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magnuse |
sudo tail /var/log/mysql/error.log |
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magnuse |
on my machine they are empty, but you might have more luck |
| 08:39 |
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rana |
ty |
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Oak |
oh well. we tried. |
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ashimema |
sorry, was in a meeting.. |
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ashimema |
it's a re-write of a ptfs-europe product.. rebus:list.. |
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ashimema |
it basically just gathers lists of materials for libraries |
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ashimema |
right.. must dash |
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indradg |
couple of years back I had to concoct a custom pre-seeded debian DVD, with all deps in place and then a bunch of curl scripts to talk to the web-installer and forcefeed the default system values. |
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cait |
hm we cheat |
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cait |
the indexes for the facets, su-to, su-geo etc. |
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cait |
all seem to resovle into Subject... |
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cait |
*sigh* |
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magnuse |
cait: it's not just that everything in those fields are *also* in the Subject index? |
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cait |
there seems to be no specific index |
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cait |
if yoiu look at ccl properties, it seems those indexnames all are mapped to Subject |
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cait |
and then the su- don't appear in record.abs at all |
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magnuse |
and it's supposed to be implemented for grs1? |
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Joubu |
hello #koha |
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Oak |
hello Joubu |
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cait |
magnuse: i think dom is just the same |
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cait |
magnuse: talking about the old facet code |
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cait |
we just don't have specific indexes or don't use them for the facets right now |
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magnuse |
ok, i was just clutching at straws :-) |
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cait |
understandable ;) |
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* magnuse |
needs lunch |
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magnuse |
hiya Viktor |
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Viktor |
Hi magnuse :) |
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Oak |
no sleep for the computers. |
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* cait |
had lunch |
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oleonard |
paxed: msgctxt? |
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paxed |
oleonard: google it |
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wahanui |
http://i.imgur.com/1n6mH4N.jpg |
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oleonard |
paxed: No. |
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oleonard |
paxed: If you're making a suggestion, explain it. |
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Viktor |
Is it possible that the two fields "today's checkouts" and "previous checkouts" are displayed in reverse alphabetical order? |
| 12:11 |
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Viktor |
Because in swedish the two fields are switched (which is correct in reverse alphabetical order) and it's a pain since previous checkouts hides the ones you're doing right now. |
| 12:12 |
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Viktor |
I've been trying to locate where in the code to look for what's going on but can't find the right place. |
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oleonard |
Viktor: On the circulation page? |
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Viktor |
yep oleonard |
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Viktor |
I looked at the .tt, .pl and .js files but can't really find where the table for checouts is created and how the layout is decided. |
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Viktor |
I know it's some ajax magic, but the stuff my browser showed me was raw data being transfered and not formated html. |
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oleonard |
Yeah the table is being put together outside of circulation.tt now |
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Viktor |
I looked at the includes to but didn't have any luck (which doesn't really say all that much) |
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oleonard |
Viktor: checkouts.js |
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oleonard |
That's where the table is being built |
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Viktor |
Aha - thanks! I'll look into it and see what's going on then. |
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oleonard |
Viktor: I can reproduce your bug, for what it's worth. |
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Viktor |
oleonard: Good to know it's not our install. |
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Viktor |
Should it be filed as a separate bug or just comment on the ajax thread? |
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oleonard |
Separate bug |
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Viktor |
It seems .rowGrouping is the culprit. |
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Viktor |
sGroupingColumnSortDirection: "desc" |
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oleonard |
Does changing that change the behavior for you? |
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Viktor |
Don't know yet. Tried a git pull on my dev install but it just hang up so I'm just fooling around in Safari with my regular laptop now :) |
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* oleonard |
thought it didn't but wasn't editing the file under the correct translation, trying again |
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Viktor |
But if it does just changing that would solve it for us in swedish but mess up our english install :/ |
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oleonard |
Yes that is the culprit |
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oleonard |
ping khall |
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Viktor |
Yay oleonard++ |
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khall |
you rang? |
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oleonard |
The row grouping plugin places "previous checkouts" at the top by doing a sort on the string, but that string is different in different languages |
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Viktor |
Filed a bug now http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12899 |
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huginn |
Bug 12899: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Row grouping in checkouts table is alphabetical and layout depends on words chosen in translation |
| 12:49 |
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khall |
oleonard: I think we will need to somehow have the sorting direction defined as part of the translations. Is there any example of that in Koha already? |
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khall |
https://jquery-datatables-row-[…]roupOrdering.html |
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oleonard |
I was just about to post that link too khall :) |
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khall |
heh |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Something like this? A dummy column with numeric sort data" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/198 |
| 12:51 |
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khall |
ooh, that's an interesting idea! |
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tcohen |
jo |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
bidet, tcohen |
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cait |
please no cryptic strings for translators :) |
| 12:52 |
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Viktor |
Think I'll generally leave you to solve this :) But I had thought the grouping was done in js based on the "checked out on" dates. |
| 12:52 |
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cait |
a hidden column or value woudl be good |
| 12:54 |
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oleonard |
I'll submit a patch. khall I hope you can take a look at it |
| 12:55 |
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khall |
will do! |
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Viktor |
Thanks oleonard++ khall++ cait++ |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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Joubu |
@QA team: bug 12891 is critical and needs QA |
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huginn |
Joubu: I suck |
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Joubu |
huginn: yes I know |
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huginn |
Joubu: downloading the Perl source |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "cait: we need just this, on *slimUtils.xsl" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/200 |
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cait |
tcohen: doens't look too scary - but how to use that everywhere? :) |
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tcohen |
<xsl:call-template name="buildURL"><xsl:with-param name="IntranetBiblioDefaultView">...</xsl:with-param></xsl:call-template> |
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tcohen |
where ... would be <xsl:value-of></.. |
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tcohen |
the variable itself |
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mveron |
oleonard ++ :-) |
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cait |
Joubu: sorry for bug 10226 - shoudl have marked it better, hesitated to fail :( |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10226 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , suspended holds still show not available |
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Joubu |
cait: no problem, now we are tests :) |
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Joubu |
have |
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Joubu |
... oops |
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cait |
Joubu: thx :) Joubu++ |
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druthb |
gmcharlt++ # mentioning Koha's under-appreciated QAM in his blog |
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* cait |
hides |
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* druthb |
gets a bungee cord, ties gmcharlt to his chair with it. |
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gmcharlt |
quassel does not seem to like me today |
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* druthb |
drags cait out of hiding. |
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* cait |
hides behind her support call :) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
Bug 11668 test plan says "Supply translations for the "Total" and "TOTAL" strings in the $LANG-messages.op file." |
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oleonard |
What is the "$LANG-messages.op" file? |
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oleonard |
Oh I see it wasn't generated because bugs. |
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Joubu |
bye #ko |
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Joubu |
hahaha |
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tcohen |
bye Joubu |
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khall |
oleonard: I just filed bug 12904 on a whim. Does this make sense? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Force browser to load new javascript files after upgrade |
| 16:21 |
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cait |
khall: hm probably - we tell libraries to clean cache etc too |
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cait |
i once had a werid case with a bad cookie |
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khall |
cait: my problem is I can't reproduce the issue. My browsers just won't cache the files! |
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cait |
the result was that they alsways had all funds showing up in a pull down... |
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cait |
hm but i would't change the files |
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cait |
sorry, just read your bug |
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khall |
cait: yeah, I don't think this involves cookies |
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khall |
we could extend it to include css though |
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cait |
not sure about the solution |
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khall |
I'm open to any solution, it would just be nice to avoid the whole "here's how to clear your browser cache" song and dance every time we upgrade |
| 16:24 |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
have to run - bbl :) |
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gerundio |
hi everyone |
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gerundio |
where can I find an article on how to setup send mail on Koha? |
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indradg |
gerundio: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_packages#E-mail |
| 16:47 |
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indradg |
however, if you are looking to setup a smtp (mail) server or a smarthost, there is any number of tutorials on the web that will do |
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jcamins |
postfix? |
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wahanui |
i think postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix (but you probably can skip the SASL stuff) or at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html |
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gerundio |
indradg, thanks for the tips |
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gerundio |
is there a place in the staff interface where I can send an email for test purposes? |
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flustrated |
Athena is the Devil. |
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flustrated |
I've imported my patron list, I've imported my marc records. But if I try to search for a book, nothing comes up. Am I doing something wrong or missing something? |
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flustrated |
Or do I need to import circ data first? |
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flustrated |
and how do I do that? |
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flustrated |
hello |
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indradg |
flustrated: nope! circ data is not necessary for search of items |
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indradg |
how did you install... .deb package or tarball? |
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flustrated |
It's on an ubuntu server... through apt get |
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flustrated |
Is there some intermediary step after applying the marc records before the catalog can be searched? |
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flustrated |
I can run a report that lists all the books in my catalog |
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flustrated |
but I can't find them to check them out. |
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druthb |
indexing? |
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wahanui |
indexing is done by Zebra. |
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gmcharlt |
flustrated: some possibilities - Zebra is not running; in that case, run koha-start-zebra |
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gmcharlt |
another possibility - Zebra is running (chek for a process named zebrasrv), but the records are not indexed |
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gmcharlt |
in that case, use koha-rebuild-zebra -f |
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gmcharlt |
yet another possibility: the OpacSuppression system preference is on, but due to a quirk, in that case there needs to be at least one record that's marked as suppress |
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gmcharlt |
in that case, either mark a record suppresed via the MARC editor, or turn off the OpacSuppression system preference |
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flustrated |
I feel like I'm 5 |
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gmcharlt |
flustrated: sorry, I hope I'm not offending you |
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gmcharlt |
there are just a lot of moving parts to Koha's catalog search |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
flustrated: how did you install koha and how did you add the records? :) |
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gmcharlt |
cait: (to save a repeat) via packages |
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flustrated |
then imported data after massaging it |
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jcamins |
How did you import the data? |
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flustrated |
through tools>import patrons and stage MARC and MARC mgmt |
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jcamins |
Okay, good. |
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cait |
oh sorry |
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flustrated |
thanks you've given me some rabbits to chase! |
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druthb |
gmcharlt++ |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ :) |
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magnuse |
gmcharlt++ |
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indradg |
hi #koha |
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indradg |
I was looking at bug 6892, tried out something adding 4 in ind1 of 856$u and the entering ftp://<some_url> , should Koha allow that? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6892 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , If a URL has been entered without http://, it isn't correctly linked |
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indradg |
jcamins, cait, gmcharlt ^^^ |
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flustrated |
ok, I'm back |
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I do not see Zebra as a running service |
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flustrated: no zebrasrv? then sudo koha-start-zebra {librarycode} should start it |
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flustrated |
When I try sudo koha-start-zebra (instance) it says it's already running. But koha says it can't see the zebra. Maybe it's standing next to a picket fence. |
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rangi |
what does ps axf | grep "zebrasrv" show you |
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flustrated |
A long error |
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flustrated |
29819 ? S 0:00 daemon --name=library-koha-zebra --errlog= etc. |
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rangi |
hmm thats not an error .. is there are a line that looks like |
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rangi |
\_ zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites |
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flustrated |
a couple actually |
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rangi |
right, so yep, the zebrasrv is running successfully then |
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flustrated |
So, is koha just not looking in the right place? |
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rangi |
where is it telling you that it is not running? |
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flustrated |
if I go to the localhost:8080 and click on "about koha" |
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bag |
I'm a little late to the show - maybe this has already been said - but what do you have in your system preference - that reads "SearchEngine" |
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rangi |
and have you done a full rebuild of the indexes ? |
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bag |
you should have Zebra selected there |
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flustrated |
where do I find the system pref setting for "search engine" |
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flustrated |
ok, found it. yep, Zebra is set |
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flustrated |
rebuild command looks like sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library right? |
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rangi |
yep |
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dbd::mysql::st execute failed: table 'koha_library.auth_header' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 440. |
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flustrated |
and a couple more similar messages |
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cait |
nght all |
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hi |
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